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daenku32 · 12th December 2005, 05:57 PM

So, my 4 year old girl is learning to write. Except it's all in mirror (eg. facing right to left).

Either she is a genious or we need to work on her before she get's used to it..which is it??

cbish · 13th December 2005, 11:25 AM

I'd ask a Kindergarten teacher. At age 4, children do alot of things backwards, forwards, upside down. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it unless she's still doing it at 14.

Dogdoctor · 13th December 2005, 01:20 PM

I think I recall somewhere that the way our mind processes things is backwards and we have to learn to switch it around. I might be wrong though, it has been years since I studied humans.

Phil · 13th December 2005, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Dogdoctor

. . . I might be wrong though, it has been years since I studied humans.

Yes, a peculiar species, aren't they?

ruach1 · 1st January 2006, 06:15 PM

In my oppinion, four year olds could use all the attention they can get. Look into it. She just might love the attention.

kmortis · 2nd January 2006, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Dogdoctor

I think I recall somewhere that the way our mind processes things is backwards and we have to learn to switch it around. I might be wrong though, it has been years since I studied humans.

I think you're thinking of the way our eyes work. We "see" things upside down, until the brain processes the info "right side up". Of course, I could be wrong; and if I was a betting man, I'd put money on Dogdoctor.

gnome · 2nd January 2006, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by daenku32

So, my 4 year old girl is learning to write. Except it's all in mirror (eg. facing right to left).

Either she is a genious or we need to work on her before she get's used to it..which is it??

It is a possible sign of dyslexia. Though, not a sure thing just from that. They have some screening tests, I believe, that can make it more certain if she's actually dyslexic.

Simon Bridge · 3rd January 2006, 03:51 AM

Backwards eh? You could have a Leonardo da Vinci there...

On another note:
How did kmortis get that sig. past rule 8? (wee willy what?)

Kiless · 3rd January 2006, 04:03 AM

I wouldn't worry, as cbish said. It's all part of learning it and she's experimenting.

Jeff Wagg · 3rd January 2006, 05:04 AM

My kids did the same thing..and now they don't.

Godmode · 3rd January 2006, 05:25 AM

I started doing that when my first teacher started making me use my right hand for writing, but I soon got it figured out.

Pastor Bentonit · 3rd January 2006, 05:27 AM

I´ve seen that many times, different kids, nothing to worry about. Is she left- or right-handed btw?

Lothian · 3rd January 2006, 05:37 AM

She is clearly possessed by the devil and is a witch. Dunk her at once. .

daenku32 · 3rd January 2006, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Lothian

She is clearly possessed by the devil and is a witch. Dunk her at once. .

Yes. Finally a sensible answer!

HeyLeroy · 3rd January 2006, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Phil

Yes, a peculiar species, aren't they?

And their pelts don't bring the kind of coin they used to. Especially the ones that smell like cocoa butter.

That_guy · 4th January 2006, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by daenku32

So, my 4 year old girl is learning to write. Except it's all in mirror (eg. facing right to left).

Either she is a genious or we need to work on her before she get's used to it..which is it??

Try switching hands. My niece did the same thing (which caused my sister to incorrectly diagnose dyslexia,) until I asked her to try with her left hand. Lo and behold, she writes beautifully with her left hand.

shells-on-my-eyelids · 4th January 2006, 07:26 AM

This is warm fuzzy and helpful:

http://www.todaysparent.com/schoolag...24_7092&page=1

ceptimus · 4th January 2006, 08:18 AM

Piscivore · 4th January 2006, 10:53 AM

!redruM !redruM

malbui · 4th January 2006, 11:03 PM

It turns out that both Mrs Malbui and I did this when starting to write - we're both left-handed and in trying to copy right-handed parents and teachers we apparently reversed everything. It sorted itself out quickly enough, though.

fsol · 5th January 2006, 03:40 AM

I am right handed and if I try to write with my left hand, without consiously trying to write the right way round it all comes out backwards. I guess it is just how the brain works.

ceptimus · 5th January 2006, 04:20 AM

Hold a piece of paper against your brow, and write your name on it. No mirrors allowed - you just do it 'blind'.

Most people write in mirror writing when they do this - it's a good trick to ask people to do it without telling them the expected result, and then see how surprised they are when they view their efforts.

Art Vandelay · 16th January 2006, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by daenku32

So, my 4 year old girl is learning to write. Except it's all in mirror (eg. facing right to left).

Backwards like ceptimus' post? Or backwards like Piscivore's?

[nitpick]There's no apostrophe in "gets"[/nitpick]

Originally Posted by Dogdoctor

I think I recall somewhere that the way our mind processes things is backwards and we have to learn to switch it around. I might be wrong though, it has been years since I studied humans.

So humans have chosen, as their written language, the exact opposite of what they're hardwired to do? That doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by gnome

It is a possible sign of dyslexia. Though, not a sure thing just from that. They have some screening tests, I believe, that can make it more certain if she's actually dyslexic.

I'm hardly an expert on dyslexia, but I would think that dyslexia would, at worse, make her write backwards half the time. Dyslexia means that you get confused between forwards and backwards writing, not that you prefer backwards writing.

Originally Posted by ceptimus

Hold a piece of paper against your brow, and write your name on it. No mirrors allowed - you just do it 'blind'.

Most people write in mirror writing when they do this - it's a good trick to ask people to do it without telling them the expected result, and then see how surprised they are when they view their efforts.

What do you mean by "mirror writing"? If you mean that, when they look at it, it looks backwards, then that means that when they wrote it, they wrote it forwards.

If you put them in front of a mirror, it makes them even more likely to write it "backwards".

12th December 2005, 05:57 PM	#1
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cbish Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Nevada City, CA Posts: 1,229	I'd ask a Kindergarten teacher. At age 4, children do alot of things backwards, forwards, upside down. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it unless she's still doing it at 14.
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kmortis Biomechanoid Director of IDIOCY (Region 13) Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Texas Posts: 24,802	Originally Posted by Dogdoctor I think I recall somewhere that the way our mind processes things is backwards and we have to learn to switch it around. I might be wrong though, it has been years since I studied humans. I think you're thinking of the way our eyes work. We "see" things upside down, until the brain processes the info "right side up". Of course, I could be wrong; and if I was a betting man, I'd put money on Dogdoctor.
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2nd January 2006, 02:24 PM	#7
gnome Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,880	Originally Posted by daenku32 So, my 4 year old girl is learning to write. Except it's all in mirror (eg. facing right to left). Either she is a genious or we need to work on her before she get's used to it..which is it?? It is a possible sign of dyslexia. Though, not a sure thing just from that. They have some screening tests, I believe, that can make it more certain if she's actually dyslexic.
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3rd January 2006, 03:51 AM	#8
Simon Bridge Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Waiheke Island (NZ) Posts: 346	Backwards eh? You could have a Leonardo da Vinci there... On another note: How did kmortis get that sig. past rule 8? (wee willy what?)

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Kiless Guest Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6,103	I wouldn't worry, as cbish said. It's all part of learning it and she's experimenting.
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3rd January 2006, 05:04 AM	#10
Jeff Wagg Eponymous Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,052	My kids did the same thing..and now they don't.

3rd January 2006, 05:25 AM	#11
Godmode Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 495	I started doing that when my first teacher started making me use my right hand for writing, but I soon got it figured out.

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daenku32 Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,987	Originally Posted by Lothian She is clearly possessed by the devil and is a witch. Dunk her at once. . Yes. Finally a sensible answer!

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That_guy Scholar Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: My house Posts: 116	Originally Posted by daenku32 So, my 4 year old girl is learning to write. Except it's all in mirror (eg. facing right to left). Either she is a genious or we need to work on her before she get's used to it..which is it?? Try switching hands. My niece did the same thing (which caused my sister to incorrectly diagnose dyslexia,) until I asked her to try with her left hand. Lo and behold, she writes beautifully with her left hand.

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ceptimus puzzler Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,316	Hold a piece of paper against your brow, and write your name on it. No mirrors allowed - you just do it 'blind'. Most people write in mirror writing when they do this - it's a good trick to ask people to do it without telling them the expected result, and then see how surprised they are when they view their efforts.
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16th January 2006, 08:42 PM	#23
Art Vandelay Illuminator Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,790	Originally Posted by daenku32 So, my 4 year old girl is learning to write. Except it's all in mirror (eg. facing right to left). Backwards like ceptimus' post? Or backwards like Piscivore's? [nitpick]There's no apostrophe in "gets"[/nitpick] Originally Posted by Dogdoctor I think I recall somewhere that the way our mind processes things is backwards and we have to learn to switch it around. I might be wrong though, it has been years since I studied humans. So humans have chosen, as their written language, the exact opposite of what they're hardwired to do? That doesn't make sense. Originally Posted by gnome It is a possible sign of dyslexia. Though, not a sure thing just from that. They have some screening tests, I believe, that can make it more certain if she's actually dyslexic. I'm hardly an expert on dyslexia, but I would think that dyslexia would, at worse, make her write backwards half the time. Dyslexia means that you get confused between forwards and backwards writing, not that you prefer backwards writing. Originally Posted by ceptimus Hold a piece of paper against your brow, and write your name on it. No mirrors allowed - you just do it 'blind'. Most people write in mirror writing when they do this - it's a good trick to ask people to do it without telling them the expected result, and then see how surprised they are when they view their efforts. What do you mean by "mirror writing"? If you mean that, when they look at it, it looks backwards, then that means that when they wrote it, they wrote it forwards. If you put them in front of a mirror, it makes them even more likely to write it "backwards".
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