Easy Magic

kittynh · 16th January 2006, 01:08 PM

I've used this guys card trick book. It's really easy and fun for those of us that are a little uncoordinated. I'm thinking of ordering some of the other titles so I can see if they are also good for the less gifted magician wannabe.

http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bi...s&query=fulves

Garrette · 16th January 2006, 01:19 PM

I have several of Fulves' self-working card trick books.

You're right; they're good for those who don't want to (don't have time to) spend hours and hours on sleights and stuff.

But they can get repetitive.

Also, bear in mind that the key is the presentation, not the method.

That bears repeating: The key is the presentation, not the method.

Don't fall in the trap of thinking that because it's easy to learn it's easy to do.

kittynh · 17th January 2006, 04:37 PM

children under age 10 always fall for my card tricks! Older forget it.

Brown · 18th January 2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by kittynh

children under age 10 always fall for my card tricks! Older forget it.

After TAM4, this will change!

If you have the time to learn, I will show you some card tricks that I learned from Michael Ammar (among other sources). The tricks involve no sleight of hand or complicated moves, and they will fool adults. They are easy to learn and easy to do. Many of the tricks can be performed with a borrowed, shuffled deck!

By the way, Garrette is right: It's mostly in the presentation.

Azrael 5 · 19th January 2006, 10:36 AM

No counting tricks..please!!!

Garrette · 19th January 2006, 10:44 AM

I agree with Azrael; no counting tricks, at least not the ones that involve more than counting a few down at the finale. I have no idea how magicians keep anyone's interest with those. Then again, they don't keep mine, so it follows I can't present them interestingly.

If I were going to TAM, kittynh, I'd show you a phenomenally easy trick that works best as a faux personality indicator and which never fails to blow people away. It's great for atmosphere building and playing up either the "mystical stars in their courses" approach or a new pop psychology tool approach. Or whatever.

Bob Klase · 19th January 2006, 11:14 AM

I would also suggest Steve Beam's Semi-Automatic Card tricks (there are 3 volumes- I've only seen the first 2). While not all the tricks are 'self-working', there are a lot of very effective card tricks and none are difficult.

NeilC · 20th January 2006, 02:38 AM

Taking the easy way is often the best bet - a decent stripper pack will enable you to produce some good effects.

The one I teach to people who are interested enough to practice is the one the spec takes a card and puts it back into the pack and even shuffles the deck themselves. The cards are put under a hanky and cut by the spec, thru the hanky so no-one can possibly influence where they cut.. Somehow they have cut to their card.

It's pretty simple anyway. With a stripper deck even junior magi can pull it off - if they practice a bit.

kittynh · 21st January 2006, 05:34 PM

What's a stripper deck?

My first thought was that Gypsy Rose Lee was going to be the queen of hearts....

No really, this could be very good!

I have actually fooled some people with the PEnn and Teller perfectly ordinary deck of cards.

As long as I pretended it was HARD, they never thought that it would be something so easy.

I am so ready (teaching at a school I have a captive audience...hehehehheh.)

Bob Klase · 21st January 2006, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by kittynh

What's a stripper deck?

http://www.magictricks.com/cards/stripreg.htm
http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=79

Garrette · 22nd January 2006, 07:00 AM

Stripper Deck is well worth the investment, which is really quite minimal.

I have one and use it sometimes, but even I forget about it and wonder how someone else does an effect I see. It's only later I remember: [I}Oh, yeah. Stripper would allow that.[/i]

I wonder if that's unique to me or if the Stripper Deck is just, for some reason, overlooked.

I'm not sure I'd recommend it for a 6 year old, though. It can require a bit more audience control than tricks without it.

Brown · 22nd January 2006, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by kittynh

What's a stripper deck?

My first thought was that Gypsy Rose Lee was going to be the queen of hearts....

No really, this could be very good!

I have actually fooled some people with the PEnn and Teller perfectly ordinary deck of cards.

The Penn and Teller deck IS a stripper deck.

If you riffle the cards, you'll notice that Penn's clothes disappear and Teller starts to look more worried.

Seriously, a "stripper" deck (usually) has nothing to do with pictures of naked ladies.

16th January 2006, 01:08 PM	#1
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 22,705	Easy Magic I've used this guys card trick book. It's really easy and fun for those of us that are a little uncoordinated. I'm thinking of ordering some of the other titles so I can see if they are also good for the less gifted magician wannabe. http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bi...s&query=fulves
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16th January 2006, 01:19 PM	#2
Garrette Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,540	I have several of Fulves' self-working card trick books. You're right; they're good for those who don't want to (don't have time to) spend hours and hours on sleights and stuff. But they can get repetitive. Also, bear in mind that the key is the presentation, not the method. That bears repeating: The key is the presentation, not the method. Don't fall in the trap of thinking that because it's easy to learn it's easy to do.
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17th January 2006, 04:37 PM	#3
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 22,705	children under age 10 always fall for my card tricks! Older forget it.
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19th January 2006, 10:36 AM	#5
Azrael 5 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 5,029	No counting tricks..please!!!
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19th January 2006, 10:44 AM	#6
Garrette Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,540	I agree with Azrael; no counting tricks, at least not the ones that involve more than counting a few down at the finale. I have no idea how magicians keep anyone's interest with those. Then again, they don't keep mine, so it follows I can't present them interestingly. If I were going to TAM, kittynh, I'd show you a phenomenally easy trick that works best as a faux personality indicator and which never fails to blow people away. It's great for atmosphere building and playing up either the "mystical stars in their courses" approach or a new pop psychology tool approach. Or whatever.
	__________________ My kids still love me.

18th January 2006, 04:36 PM	#4
Brown Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Twin Cities, Canada Posts: 12,145	Originally Posted by kittynh children under age 10 always fall for my card tricks! Older forget it. After TAM4, this will change! If you have the time to learn, I will show you some card tricks that I learned from Michael Ammar (among other sources). The tricks involve no sleight of hand or complicated moves, and they will fool adults. They are easy to learn and easy to do. Many of the tricks can be performed with a borrowed, shuffled deck! By the way, Garrette is right: It's mostly in the presentation.

19th January 2006, 11:14 AM	#7
Bob Klase Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 2,833	I would also suggest Steve Beam's Semi-Automatic Card tricks (there are 3 volumes- I've only seen the first 2). While not all the tricks are 'self-working', there are a lot of very effective card tricks and none are difficult.

20th January 2006, 02:38 AM	#8
NeilC Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,331	Taking the easy way is often the best bet - a decent stripper pack will enable you to produce some good effects. The one I teach to people who are interested enough to practice is the one the spec takes a card and puts it back into the pack and even shuffles the deck themselves. The cards are put under a hanky and cut by the spec, thru the hanky so no-one can possibly influence where they cut.. Somehow they have cut to their card. It's pretty simple anyway. With a stripper deck even junior magi can pull it off - if they practice a bit.

21st January 2006, 05:34 PM	#9
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 22,705	What's a stripper deck? My first thought was that Gypsy Rose Lee was going to be the queen of hearts.... No really, this could be very good! I have actually fooled some people with the PEnn and Teller perfectly ordinary deck of cards. As long as I pretended it was HARD, they never thought that it would be something so easy. I am so ready (teaching at a school I have a captive audience...hehehehheh.)
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21st January 2006, 11:46 PM	#10
Bob Klase Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 2,833	Originally Posted by kittynh What's a stripper deck? http://www.magictricks.com/cards/stripreg.htm http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=79

22nd January 2006, 07:00 AM	#11
Garrette Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,540	Stripper Deck is well worth the investment, which is really quite minimal. I have one and use it sometimes, but even I forget about it and wonder how someone else does an effect I see. It's only later I remember: [I}Oh, yeah. Stripper would allow that.[/i] I wonder if that's unique to me or if the Stripper Deck is just, for some reason, overlooked. I'm not sure I'd recommend it for a 6 year old, though. It can require a bit more audience control than tricks without it.
	__________________ My kids still love me.

22nd January 2006, 06:35 PM	#12
Brown Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Twin Cities, Canada Posts: 12,145	Originally Posted by kittynh What's a stripper deck? My first thought was that Gypsy Rose Lee was going to be the queen of hearts.... No really, this could be very good! I have actually fooled some people with the PEnn and Teller perfectly ordinary deck of cards. The Penn and Teller deck IS a stripper deck. If you riffle the cards, you'll notice that Penn's clothes disappear and Teller starts to look more worried. Seriously, a "stripper" deck (usually) has nothing to do with pictures of naked ladies.