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Crispy Duck · 6th February 2006, 06:15 AM

I though readers here might be interested in this piece from the online Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../ixportal.html

including:

Quote:

Or is [Lovelock] completely wrong? To say that would be an offence not just against science, but against a growing world religion.

Background for non-British readers: Boris Johnson is a Conservative MP who likes to portray himself as an amiable buffoon, but who is a lot brighter than he first seems. He's currently trying to improve his image in the hopes of becoming a more serious player in British politics.

brettDbass · 6th February 2006, 07:58 AM

[Johnson-mode]

Pfff, well ummmm, CRIKEY! Yes indeed, ah, *hair flops over forehead* well might you say that, uh, but ummmmm..... well is it oh, err, or isn't it, uhm, you know, is it really like that or um *hair flops in other direction* ... err yes, oh CRIKEY, you know is it really not like that at all? Bloody scousers!
Cor, isn't it cold in here? Turn up the heating, luv.

[/Johnson-mode]

Jorghnassen · 6th February 2006, 08:21 AM

OK Europe, you had enough fun. Now please give us back our winter.

Love,

North America

brettDbass · 6th February 2006, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Jorghnassen

OK Europe, you had enough fun. Now please give us back our winter.

Love,

North America

Dear North America,

Thank you for your lovely letter.
Unfortunately we seem to have lost your winter somewhere in transit (we only wanted to borrow it for a month or so). The postal systems over here aren't very good these days and you know how corrupt all those courier companies are.
It is possible that you winter was misdirected to some other area - we have sent your message to our Eastern neighbours for their perusal.

Anyway, we would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused by us having lost your winter.

Yours Sincerely,
North-Western Europe.

Nucular · 6th February 2006, 11:28 AM

I like Boris, despite his being a hateful Tory pigdog. He's a pleasant sort, or seems to be, and in direct contravention of Conservative Party guidelines he actually has been caught making sense in the past.

I wish he was the Tory leader, politics would be so much more... Beanoesque.

Dave_46 · 6th February 2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Nucular

I wish he was the Tory leader, politics would be so much more... Beanoesque.

That is just Dandy

Dave

kevin · 6th February 2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by brettDbass

[Johnson-mode]

Pfff, well ummmm, CRIKEY! Yes indeed, ah, *hair flops over forehead* well might you say that, uh, but ummmmm..... well is it oh, err, or isn't it, uhm, you know, is it really like that or um *hair flops in other direction* ... err yes, oh CRIKEY, you know is it really not like that at all? Bloody scousers!
Cor, isn't it cold in here? Turn up the heating, luv.

[/Johnson-mode]

that reads like a GWB speech given by one of Monty Python's Gumbys.

brodski · 6th February 2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Nucular

I like Boris, despite his being a hateful Tory pigdog. He's a pleasant sort, or seems to be, and in direct contravention of Conservative Party guidelines he actually has been caught making sense in the past.

I wish he was the Tory leader, politics would be so much more... Beanoesque.

Yeah, he's such a loveable chap, giving out the home addresses of his journalists so that they can get physically attacked by crooks that they have exposed. as long as those crooks happen to be mates of Borris'.
What a card.

Boris can only get away with this behavior as long as he is seen as a "lovable buffoon", if he ever gets any real power he'll be crushed by all the skeletons falling out of his closet at once.

Nucular · 6th February 2006, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by brodski

Yeah, he's such a loveable chap, giving out the home addresses of his journalists so that they can get physically attacked by crooks that they have exposed. as long as those crooks happen to be mates of Borris'.
What a card.

Boris can only get away with this behavior as long as he is seen as a "lovable buffoon", if he ever gets any real power he'll be crushed by all the skeletons falling out of his closet at once.

Yeah, but that was obviously just a mistake caused by loveable buffoonery.

I'm sure he remarked "oo-er" when he realised.

Same as his bullish stubbornness in employing the appalling bigot Taki - ooh there'll be egg on Boris's face when he realises! Cripes!

Rolfe · 6th February 2006, 03:57 PM

Anyway, bright our Boris may be, but he's an arts and humanities man. Wouldn't know a science proposition if it bit him on the ankle.

Rolfe.

lenny · 6th February 2006, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Crispy Duck

I though readers here might be interested in this piece from the online Telegraph including:

Quote:

Or is [Lovelock] completely wrong? To say that would be an offence not just against science, but against a growing world religion.

interesting.

saying something is wrong is never an offence in science, it is an invitation to dance.

of course, the reaction to saying something is wrong in religion depends on whether you are talking to an evangelical or a theologian.

then again, perhaps that condition holds in science as well?

6th February 2006, 06:15 AM	#1
Crispy Duck Thinker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 128	Boris Johnson sceptical on climate change I though readers here might be interested in this piece from the online Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../ixportal.html including: Quote: Or is [Lovelock] completely wrong? To say that would be an offence not just against science, but against a growing world religion. Background for non-British readers: Boris Johnson is a Conservative MP who likes to portray himself as an amiable buffoon, but who is a lot brighter than he first seems. He's currently trying to improve his image in the hopes of becoming a more serious player in British politics.
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6th February 2006, 07:58 AM	#2
brettDbass Kurious Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Birmingham School Of Business School (Leicester branch) Posts: 1,361	[Johnson-mode] Pfff, well ummmm, CRIKEY! Yes indeed, ah, hair flops over forehead well might you say that, uh, but ummmmm..... well is it oh, err, or isn't it, uhm, you know, is it really like that or um hair flops in other direction ... err yes, oh CRIKEY, you know is it really not like that at all? Bloody scousers! Cor, isn't it cold in here? Turn up the heating, luv. [/Johnson-mode]
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6th February 2006, 08:21 AM	#3
Jorghnassen Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The realm of ideas Posts: 3,884	OK Europe, you had enough fun. Now please give us back our winter. Love, North America
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6th February 2006, 08:33 AM	#4
brettDbass Kurious Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Birmingham School Of Business School (Leicester branch) Posts: 1,361	Originally Posted by Jorghnassen OK Europe, you had enough fun. Now please give us back our winter. Love, North America Dear North America, Thank you for your lovely letter. Unfortunately we seem to have lost your winter somewhere in transit (we only wanted to borrow it for a month or so). The postal systems over here aren't very good these days and you know how corrupt all those courier companies are. It is possible that you winter was misdirected to some other area - we have sent your message to our Eastern neighbours for their perusal. Anyway, we would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused by us having lost your winter. Yours Sincerely, North-Western Europe.
	__________________ Your request //God returned the value: Error 422 - unprocessable entity.

6th February 2006, 11:28 AM	#5
Nucular Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Brane 6, Brahman's Dream Posts: 3,050	I like Boris, despite his being a hateful Tory pigdog. He's a pleasant sort, or seems to be, and in direct contravention of Conservative Party guidelines he actually has been caught making sense in the past. I wish he was the Tory leader, politics would be so much more... Beanoesque.
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6th February 2006, 02:20 PM	#6
Dave_46 Muse Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK (south Bucks) Posts: 943	Originally Posted by Nucular I wish he was the Tory leader, politics would be so much more... Beanoesque. That is just Dandy Dave

6th February 2006, 02:41 PM	#7
kevin Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,666	Originally Posted by brettDbass [Johnson-mode] Pfff, well ummmm, CRIKEY! Yes indeed, ah, hair flops over forehead well might you say that, uh, but ummmmm..... well is it oh, err, or isn't it, uhm, you know, is it really like that or um hair flops in other direction ... err yes, oh CRIKEY, you know is it really not like that at all? Bloody scousers! Cor, isn't it cold in here? Turn up the heating, luv. [/Johnson-mode] that reads like a GWB speech given by one of Monty Python's Gumbys.
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6th February 2006, 02:55 PM	#8
brodski Tea-Time toad Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 15,159	Originally Posted by Nucular I like Boris, despite his being a hateful Tory pigdog. He's a pleasant sort, or seems to be, and in direct contravention of Conservative Party guidelines he actually has been caught making sense in the past. I wish he was the Tory leader, politics would be so much more... Beanoesque. Yeah, he's such a loveable chap, giving out the home addresses of his journalists so that they can get physically attacked by crooks that they have exposed. as long as those crooks happen to be mates of Borris'. What a card. Boris can only get away with this behavior as long as he is seen as a "lovable buffoon", if he ever gets any real power he'll be crushed by all the skeletons falling out of his closet at once.
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6th February 2006, 03:44 PM	#9
Nucular Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Brane 6, Brahman's Dream Posts: 3,050	Originally Posted by brodski Yeah, he's such a loveable chap, giving out the home addresses of his journalists so that they can get physically attacked by crooks that they have exposed. as long as those crooks happen to be mates of Borris'. What a card. Boris can only get away with this behavior as long as he is seen as a "lovable buffoon", if he ever gets any real power he'll be crushed by all the skeletons falling out of his closet at once. Yeah, but that was obviously just a mistake caused by loveable buffoonery. I'm sure he remarked "oo-er" when he realised. Same as his bullish stubbornness in employing the appalling bigot Taki - ooh there'll be egg on Boris's face when he realises! Cripes!
	__________________ From the UK? Sceptical? Like forums? Well my psychic powers tell me that the UK Skeptics' Forum is for you - 8 out of 10 sceptics demand to know where these figures came from. Non sunt in coeli, quia fvccant vvivys of heli (Flen Flyys, c.15th Century) Get out of my head, Nucular (kmortis)

6th February 2006, 03:57 PM	#10
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 34,406	Anyway, bright our Boris may be, but he's an arts and humanities man. Wouldn't know a science proposition if it bit him on the ankle. Rolfe.
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6th February 2006, 03:59 PM	#11
lenny Muse Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oxford Posts: 755	Originally Posted by Crispy Duck I though readers here might be interested in this piece from the online Telegraph including: Quote: Or is [Lovelock] completely wrong? To say that would be an offence not just against science, but against a growing world religion. interesting. saying something is wrong is never an offence in science, it is an invitation to dance. of course, the reaction to saying something is wrong in religion depends on whether you are talking to an evangelical or a theologian. then again, perhaps that condition holds in science as well?