Dr. Louis Turi's Predictions

Hardenbergh · 17th March 2006, 12:20 PM

I just came across Dr. Louis Turi's predictions from his website:

http://www.drturi.com/predictions.php

Spektator · 17th March 2006, 12:43 PM

Every single one of these will come true with just a little intensive retrofitting, with perhaps a bit of waffling.

Anyway, that's my prediction.

drkitten · 17th March 2006, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Hardenbergh

I just came across Dr. Louis Turi's predictions from his website:

http://www.drturi.com/predictions.php

They're classic vague statements that almost any set of events will prove true. "Problems in the middle east?" That's like predicting a sunny day in Los Angeles....

sinclairmcevoy · 17th March 2006, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hardenbergh

I just came across Dr. Louis Turi's predictions from his website:

http://www.drturi.com/predictions.php

What a nut job. I could predict as accurately. But, I'm not a "REAL" psychic.

Hardenbergh · 17th March 2006, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by drkitten

They're classic vague statements that almost any set of events will prove true. "Problems in the middle east?" That's like predicting a sunny day in Los Angeles....

I'd never even heard of Dr. Turi until I heard him on Coast to Coast AM. George Noory seems to think he has a pretty good track record. Maybe he's just playing along to make the show interesting.

Morris Cod · 17th March 2006, 01:15 PM

look, you skeptics,
He's the one that predicted 9/11 don't you know?

Really!!
http://www.drturi.com/911page.php

What a wonderful man. Knew of all the carnage, decided to keep the interpretation to himself, so he could say,"I told you so" later.

Charming.

And, Bin Laden is the antichrist.
Makes sense, he's got a lovely beard.

GregC · 17th March 2006, 01:44 PM

I like this one he's claiming success for:

Quote:

Prediction #10 - CNN 01/09/06 - 10- Arnold Swarchenegger, Michael Jackson, Liz Taylor to name a few.
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger received 15 stitches in his lip after a motorcycle accident.

Are we to assume 10 refers to # 9?

Quote:

9- The worse year involving the death or serious troubles for many famous actors.

15 stiches = serious trouble?

Oooo, he's good!

Joe Random · 17th March 2006, 01:49 PM

Turdi's most notable achievement was being voted in as the King of Spades on the Kook Kard Deck (usenet) : http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/kards.html

He's in the fine company of other famous <cough> psychics/astrologers like the late (unlamented) Earl Curley and Ed Wollmann. Oh, and his way of helping victims of the Tsunami? Offer them free copies of the previous edition of his book : link

Psiload · 17th March 2006, 02:45 PM

The only thing worse than his predictions is his toupee:

http://www.jerrypippin.com/Dr%20louis%20Turi.jpg

It looks like he's got a hollowed out wombat carcass on his head.

valis · 18th March 2006, 08:00 PM

Quote:

...he received a metaphysical Doctorate from the Progressive Universal Life Church based in Sacramento, California...

I was going to dismiss him as another two bit fraud, but then I saw that he is a doctor.

Hardenbergh · 22nd March 2006, 10:17 AM

Dr. Louis Turi was a guest last night on Coast to Coast AM:

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First hour guest, astropsychologist and seer Dr. Louis Turi returned to share his forecast and views. He foresees next weekend (March 30-April 2nd) as a time of negative energy, with an explosive or surprising event such as an earthquake taking place. Longer range, he sees the year 2012 as the beginning of the end for "stupidity," with a new consciousness and interactions with ETs occurring. Dr. Turi has made available a free download of his book Asia Dragon Predictions.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/.../21.html#recap

Sasha · 22nd March 2006, 10:35 AM

What exactly is an astropsychologist? It may be evident to others, but I've never heard the term and I can't find a definition anywhere. What sort of degree is earned for this and what is one qualified for when one earns it?

Hellbound · 22nd March 2006, 10:47 AM

Duh, just look at the name. Obviously, he studies the minds of stars.

Sasha · 22nd March 2006, 10:57 AM

Silly me, and I thought maybe he consulted for the Jetsons.

sophia8 · 22nd March 2006, 12:00 PM

From his website:

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Other young souls visiting my website or newsgroups will become obnoxious, following this Presidential Election's obvious hit. They knew about this very specific prophecy and were in silence waiting, ready and hoping for my failure so that they could double their efforts to harass me and hurt the integrity of my work. Some of them are adjacent to madness and will not hesitate to promote huge lies. Falsification is their best weaponry by making up names and phony email addresses to tarnish my reputation from my own newsgroup. I do have problems with this sort of parasitical invasion in my website forum and my newsgroup. The following is a letter I received from the abuse department at hotmail and you will see what lengths they go to, in order to get into my forum:

MEMO - Good day Dr. Turi, thank you for writing back to MSN Hotmail. This is ///ibec and I have read over the e-mail exchange you had with the previous Support Representatives about your complaint against a Hotmail account. I know how frustrating it is to receive such kind of email. However, the account you reported [** turifake@hotmail.com**] is not a valid Hotmail account. The message was sent using a forged header. From time to time, individuals may forge message headers in order to suggest that the message originated with MSN Hotmail. In addition, these "spammers" may use similar fake "reply-to" accounts, "remove me" accounts, and other types of drop boxes either in the headers or in the body of messages, on Web pages, in Web forms or in postings such as newsgroups. This is an extremely difficult practice to guard against, but one we will continue our efforts to prevent.

Continued - Like demonic coward terrorists they infiltrate themselves on my forum from my website at night posting obscenities in the hope I will give up and close it. This will not happen and as in the eternal battle between good and evil, goodness and the truth always prevail and it is with their own demons they must ultimately do battle.

Cthulhu · 22nd March 2006, 12:36 PM

So he is predicting an earthquake over a 3 day period...thats really going out on a limb. Isn't there an "earthquake" every 30 seconds or so?

jj · 22nd March 2006, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

So he is predicting an earthquake over a 3 day period...thats really going out on a limb. Isn't there an "earthquake" every 30 seconds or so?

There were 604 earthquakes over M1 in the last week in the USA, as of the time of posting of this article.

There were 170 over M2.5 in the world in the same period, including one very near R'yleh, it appears, at:

Magnitude 5.0 (Moderate)
Date-Time Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 04:36:09 (UTC)
= Coordinated Universal Time
Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 4:36:09 PM
= local time at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 19.017°S, 177.684°W
Depth 588.6 km (365.8 miles)
Region FIJI REGION
Distances 210 km (130 miles) NNE of Ndoi Island, Fiji
350 km (215 miles) NW of NUKU'ALOFA, Tonga
425 km (265 miles) ESE of SUVA, Viti Levu, Fiji
2115 km (1310 miles) NNE of Auckland, New Zealand

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 5.5 km (3.4 miles); depth +/- 5.1 km (3.2 miles)
Parameters Nst= 92, Nph= 92, Dmin=846.2 km, Rmss=0.47 sec, Gp= 36°,
M-type=body magnitude (Mb), Version=6
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID uskpac
---

What's the probability he's wrong, I wonder?

Hardenbergh · 22nd March 2006, 12:50 PM

I thought you'd be interesting in seeing Dr. Turi's prices for his readings. After seeing the dollar signs, I'm beginning to look at him with new eyes.

He's a savvy businessman, too. He'll only accept credit cards or money orders--no personal checks.

http://www.drturi.com/readings.php

I also came across another website but I can't seem to find the author of the website.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aspie/tru...e/newyear.html

Hardenbergh · 22nd March 2006, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Sasha

What exactly is an astropsychologist? It may be evident to others, but I've never heard the term and I can't find a definition anywhere. What sort of degree is earned for this and what is one qualified for when one earns it?

By his own admission, Dr. Turi is one-of-a-kind.

Quote:

Note also, that I am not a psychic or a regular astrologer, but an Astropsychologist. I cannot be remotely compared to anyone else, or experiences, you have had with regular astrologers or psychics in the past. http://www.drturi.com/beforeordering.php

Cthulhu · 22nd March 2006, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by jj

There were 170 over M2.5 in the world in the same period, including one very near R'yleh

Sorry, had gas.

Sasha · 22nd March 2006, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Hardenbergh

By his own admission, Dr. Turi is one-of-a-kind.

So you're saying he's a one-of-a-kind not real Doctor with a made-up title.

Hardenbergh · 22nd March 2006, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Sasha

So you're saying he's a one-of-a-kind not real Doctor with a made-up title.

It just sounds like he's bragging a little. He's in awe of himself.

Babylon Sister · 22nd March 2006, 01:22 PM

There was a 4.something earthquake off the coast of northern California yesterday, but I'm not sure if Tuesday counts as "the weekend."

Wouldn't that count as a hit? I mean he was only off by 10 days afterall.

ambergeekgirl · 22nd March 2006, 01:35 PM

Wow, this guy is a dick.

That's right, you too can save your child from suicide for just $200 bucks. Don't wait, act now!

Grrrr!

From his site. I apparently can't post URL's until I have 15 posts.

Quote:

Children Characterology $200 add $10 S&H :

Do not hesitate to invest in your child. You might have given life to a genius or an artist. Find out how and why your child thinks or behaves with you or the world at large.
Find out why your child is the way he/she is. Give him/her the EARLY opportunity to regenerate his/her spirit and get the right direction in life. Let me introduce your star children, as you never knew them before. Do not let the worst of the stars take control over their destiny. In this day and age children need spiritual regeneration more than ever. The sad fact is that over 6000 of them commit suicide every year in the US alone while other children are killing each other in schools. Don't wait until it¹s too late, understand the dilemma from Astropsychology and let Dr. Turi help your child with this service. Your child's future is worth it! I saved many teenagers from suicidal tendencies, gang activity, drug/alcohol addictions and put them right back on the road of health, success and happiness. Save thousands of dollars on wasteful sessions of traditional psychotherapy and years of guilt and sorrow. Do it for his/her birthday and watch the results.

Joe Random · 22nd March 2006, 02:05 PM

I’ll have to scrounge around for message IDs and such, but Turdi has a huge reputation on Usenet as a ghoul and fraud. At one point we (tinw) got him to admit that his claimed doctorate doesn’t actually exist, and he only uses the title "Dr." beacuse his friends and supporters (all of whom sound suspiciously like Turdi when they write) supposedly call him “Dr.” as a sign of affection and respect.

He’s a despicable human through and through, and has this nasty habit of using high-death-count natural disasters as a pulpit from which to scream about the accuracies of his “predictions”. An old but still accurate summation of this <rule8> can be found here : link

(edit for clarification - I am not the author of the post I linked above)

Joe Random · 22nd March 2006, 02:32 PM

I found the post where Turi admits he doesn’t have a doctorate

Quote:

Hi, some of you have asked me and wondered what I am a doctor of. I generally just say, "Doctor of Metaphysics." I use the name "Dr." because I am a healer. I am not a physician nor do I have a doctorate from an accredited medical school. I got my metaphysical Mill Doctorate from the Light Church Institute In Sacramenton [sic], CA. My good friends called me Dr. Turi because of my powerful healing gifts and it stuck. I use that as my professional Stage Name.

Full text here .

Sasha · 23rd March 2006, 04:10 AM

Thanks Joe. "Professional stage name"...kind of says it all, doesn't it?

chillzero · 23rd March 2006, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Hardenbergh

I thought you'd be interesting in seeing Dr. Turi's prices for his readings. After seeing the dollar signs, I'm beginning to look at him with new eyes.

He's a savvy businessman, too. He'll only accept credit cards or money orders--no personal checks.

http://www.drturi.com/readings.php

I also came across another website but I can't seem to find the author of the website.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aspie/tru...e/newyear.html

Hardenburgh, I congratulate you for the change of perspective, and also admitting it here.
However, would you consider viewing other claimed psychics with the same 'new eyes', regardless of a price tag? Just because the service is free, doesn't make it legitimate or any less fraudulent. I would hope you would look at the claims made, and any evidence for and against the claims, before you make your mind up.

I know you took a bit of a bash over comments about another psychic, and I wanted to give you credit for seeing that this psychic is a con.

Mojo · 23rd March 2006, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by Psiload

The only thing worse than his predictions is his toupee:

http://www.jerrypippin.com/Dr%20louis%20Turi.jpg

It looks like he's got a hollowed out wombat carcass on his head.

Have we heard from Tim recently?

Skeptic · 23rd March 2006, 06:42 AM

There's quite a bit about this ghoul on the internet, especially on usenet--in groups like sci.skeptic and alt.astrology. Start here:

"Dr." Turi is not actually a real doctor. He usually calls himself either an "MD" for "doctor of metaphysics" or "DDS" for "doctor of divine sciences"--his "doctorate" was bought from a diploma mill for $20 or so.

His usual "spiel" is to a). predict some earthquake of some magniture would occur within some period of time somewhere in an earthquake zone, and b). when an earthquake actually stikes and kills people, he crows: "I PREDICTED IT!!!".

He's a pathetic ghoul and scam artist. By the way, his book "Moon Power Starguide 2002" is the #3,519,007 on Amazon's best-selling list.

I didn't know Amazon HAD that many books.

ChristineR · 23rd March 2006, 06:49 AM

I need something brain-dead to distract me while I program...I'm going to listen to his 2 hour interview on his methods. If I make it through, I'll report.

Avita · 24th March 2006, 08:06 PM

The man's MO of implying a lot without actually stating it outright rubs me very much the wrong way. I took two random paragraphs, then quit reading in disgust. From his website (just click on the "Dragon explained" link on the left side) -

Quote:

Sir Isaac Newton wrote "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction". We are what we think, having become what we thought.

Quoting out of context and without regard for the fact that Newton was referring to physical forces - check. Where he takes this thought is just plain offensive. Tell that to all the people who try to fight depression by desperately imagining that they are happy and not depressed. Heck, tell that to people who are highly succesful yet believe that they have no qualities that could have lead to such success.

Quote:

This statement emphasizes that for every thought or action, there will be an effect.

Hmm. What might the effect be of thinking "Turi, you are made of very green, very moldy cheese"?

Quote:

This is what I call the "Universal Law", the cause and effect of the yin and yang recognized and accepted as the LAW OF KARMA. Modern Astrology classifies the Dragon's Head and Tail as the South and North Nodes of the Moon. To my knowledge, the Moon is, just by herself, quite responsible for the daily fate of the world and directly affects the weather and nature's forces at work.

Recognized and supported by whom? How did you derive your knowledge? And I was unaware that the world had a fate. Or at least, it's doing such a good job of avoiding it that it's not immediately obvious that it has one. Hey, maybe that's why everything in the Universe spins so much!

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Obviously, the waxing and waning periods of our closest satellite will produce the daily process of the tides. The lunar cycle is 28 and a half days, which is the same as a woman's cycle.

::sings:: One of these cycles is not like the other, one of these cycles doesn't belong ::stops singing:: Seriously, what about those who have longer, shorter, or just plain irregular menstrual cycles? Are they evil for resisting the influence of the moon?

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Thus, women will have a physical and spiritual response

Well, that answers the question right above. After all, what womanly woman wouldn't want to be controlled by the moon instead of herself?

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as we all will be responding subconsciously to the word, "LUNATIC".

Including those who don't speak English, apparently.

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The scientific community is only aware of tremendous activity in the time of a Full Moon, but they still have no clue as to the tremendous information behind it. The police force and the hospital emergency rooms are also unusually busy at these times.

Bashing the scientific community - check. Presenting urban myth as incontrovertible fact - check (see www skepdic com/fullmoon html)

Quote:

The Moon's subtle power is not yet understood by the scientific community but is wisely used by the aware farmer. However, many years of tedious observation have shown me that she is undeniably affecting the human psyche and our response to life.

Yes, yes, we get it - "earth wisdom" is the best.

Quote:

Without opposing forces at work (positive/negative), there would be no reaction, thus, no life possible on both the spiritual and physical planes.

Explain to my poor, weak, and non-earthy mind - when an object hits another object, they are both pushing on each other equally, right? By implication, they are exerting the same kind of force on each other, so which one of them is "positive" and which is "negative"?

Quote:

Our so-called "dead" satellite is very much alive, and vigilantly observing her whereabouts will make man grow steadfastly into a genius in predictive astrology.

But not woman - she just needs to obediently react to the force the moon exerts on her. And I've got just one last sarcastic question - why aren't all astronomers (who by definition spend more time observing the moon than the average person) predictive astrologers yet?

17th March 2006, 01:15 PM	#6
Morris Cod Thinker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tasmania, triangle of prosperity. Posts: 134	Hes da man.. look, you skeptics, He's the one that predicted 9/11 don't you know? Really!! http://www.drturi.com/911page.php What a wonderful man. Knew of all the carnage, decided to keep the interpretation to himself, so he could say,"I told you so" later. Charming. And, Bin Laden is the antichrist. Makes sense, he's got a lovely beard.

17th March 2006, 01:49 PM	#8
Joe Random Muse Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 697	Turdi's most notable achievement was being voted in as the King of Spades on the Kook Kard Deck (usenet) : http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/kards.html He's in the fine company of other famous <cough> psychics/astrologers like the late (unlamented) Earl Curley and Ed Wollmann. Oh, and his way of helping victims of the Tsunami? Offer them free copies of the previous edition of his book : link
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17th March 2006, 02:45 PM	#9
Psiload Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,105	The only thing worse than his predictions is his toupee: http://www.jerrypippin.com/Dr%20louis%20Turi.jpg It looks like he's got a hollowed out wombat carcass on his head.
Psiload Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,105	__________________ You're not the boss of me.

22nd March 2006, 12:36 PM	#16
Cthulhu Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 144	So he is predicting an earthquake over a 3 day period...thats really going out on a limb. Isn't there an "earthquake" every 30 seconds or so?
Cthulhu Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 144	__________________ Jesus saves. (Esposito picks up the rebound and SCORES!) Allah Forgives. Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. Haw Haw!

22nd March 2006, 12:42 PM	#17
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,465	Originally Posted by Cthulhu So he is predicting an earthquake over a 3 day period...thats really going out on a limb. Isn't there an "earthquake" every 30 seconds or so? There were 604 earthquakes over M1 in the last week in the USA, as of the time of posting of this article. There were 170 over M2.5 in the world in the same period, including one very near R'yleh, it appears, at: Magnitude 5.0 (Moderate) Date-Time Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 04:36:09 (UTC) = Coordinated Universal Time Wednesday, March 22, 2006 at 4:36:09 PM = local time at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones Location 19.017°S, 177.684°W Depth 588.6 km (365.8 miles) Region FIJI REGION Distances 210 km (130 miles) NNE of Ndoi Island, Fiji 350 km (215 miles) NW of NUKU'ALOFA, Tonga 425 km (265 miles) ESE of SUVA, Viti Levu, Fiji 2115 km (1310 miles) NNE of Auckland, New Zealand Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 5.5 km (3.4 miles); depth +/- 5.1 km (3.2 miles) Parameters Nst= 92, Nph= 92, Dmin=846.2 km, Rmss=0.47 sec, Gp= 36°, M-type=body magnitude (Mb), Version=6 Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D) Event ID uskpac --- What's the probability he's wrong, I wonder?
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17th March 2006, 12:20 PM	#1
Hardenbergh Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,077	Dr. Louis Turi's Predictions I just came across Dr. Louis Turi's predictions from his website: http://www.drturi.com/predictions.php

17th March 2006, 12:43 PM	#2
Spektator Dog Who Laughs Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,318	Every single one of these will come true with just a little intensive retrofitting, with perhaps a bit of waffling. Anyway, that's my prediction.

17th March 2006, 12:49 PM	#3
drkitten Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wits' End Posts: 21,647	Originally Posted by Hardenbergh I just came across Dr. Louis Turi's predictions from his website: http://www.drturi.com/predictions.php They're classic vague statements that almost any set of events will prove true. "Problems in the middle east?" That's like predicting a sunny day in Los Angeles....

17th March 2006, 12:55 PM	#4
sinclairmcevoy Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8,027	Originally Posted by Hardenbergh I just came across Dr. Louis Turi's predictions from his website: http://www.drturi.com/predictions.php What a nut job. I could predict as accurately. But, I'm not a "REAL" psychic.

17th March 2006, 01:01 PM	#5
Hardenbergh Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,077	Originally Posted by drkitten They're classic vague statements that almost any set of events will prove true. "Problems in the middle east?" That's like predicting a sunny day in Los Angeles.... I'd never even heard of Dr. Turi until I heard him on Coast to Coast AM. George Noory seems to think he has a pretty good track record. Maybe he's just playing along to make the show interesting.

17th March 2006, 01:44 PM	#7
GregC El Presidente Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Back at the front Posts: 3,244	I like this one he's claiming success for: Quote: Prediction #10 - CNN 01/09/06 - 10- Arnold Swarchenegger, Michael Jackson, Liz Taylor to name a few. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger received 15 stitches in his lip after a motorcycle accident. Are we to assume 10 refers to # 9? Quote: 9- The worse year involving the death or serious troubles for many famous actors. 15 stiches = serious trouble? Oooo, he's good!

18th March 2006, 08:00 PM	#10
valis Muse Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: sebastian. fl Posts: 649	Quote: ...he received a metaphysical Doctorate from the Progressive Universal Life Church based in Sacramento, California... I was going to dismiss him as another two bit fraud, but then I saw that he is a doctor.
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22nd March 2006, 10:17 AM	#11
Hardenbergh Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,077	Dr. Louis Turi was a guest last night on Coast to Coast AM: Quote: First hour guest, astropsychologist and seer Dr. Louis Turi returned to share his forecast and views. He foresees next weekend (March 30-April 2nd) as a time of negative energy, with an explosive or surprising event such as an earthquake taking place. Longer range, he sees the year 2012 as the beginning of the end for "stupidity," with a new consciousness and interactions with ETs occurring. Dr. Turi has made available a free download of his book Asia Dragon Predictions. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/.../21.html#recap

22nd March 2006, 10:35 AM	#12
Sasha Muse Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 657	What exactly is an astropsychologist? It may be evident to others, but I've never heard the term and I can't find a definition anywhere. What sort of degree is earned for this and what is one qualified for when one earns it?

22nd March 2006, 10:47 AM	#13
Hellbound Abiogenic Spongiform Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a handbasket Posts: 8,911	Duh, just look at the name. Obviously, he studies the minds of stars.

22nd March 2006, 10:57 AM	#14
Sasha Muse Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 657	Silly me, and I thought maybe he consulted for the Jetsons.

22nd March 2006, 12:00 PM	#15
sophia8 Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the dark, dark forest.... Posts: 2,251	From his website: Quote: Other young souls visiting my website or newsgroups will become obnoxious, following this Presidential Election's obvious hit. They knew about this very specific prophecy and were in silence waiting, ready and hoping for my failure so that they could double their efforts to harass me and hurt the integrity of my work. Some of them are adjacent to madness and will not hesitate to promote huge lies. Falsification is their best weaponry by making up names and phony email addresses to tarnish my reputation from my own newsgroup. I do have problems with this sort of parasitical invasion in my website forum and my newsgroup. The following is a letter I received from the abuse department at hotmail and you will see what lengths they go to, in order to get into my forum: MEMO - Good day Dr. Turi, thank you for writing back to MSN Hotmail. This is ///ibec and I have read over the e-mail exchange you had with the previous Support Representatives about your complaint against a Hotmail account. I know how frustrating it is to receive such kind of email. However, the account you reported [ turifake@hotmail.com] is not a valid Hotmail account. The message was sent using a forged header. From time to time, individuals may forge message headers in order to suggest that the message originated with MSN Hotmail. In addition, these "spammers" may use similar fake "reply-to" accounts, "remove me" accounts, and other types of drop boxes either in the headers or in the body of messages, on Web pages, in Web forms or in postings such as newsgroups. This is an extremely difficult practice to guard against, but one we will continue our efforts to prevent. Continued - Like demonic coward terrorists they infiltrate themselves on my forum from my website at night posting obscenities in the hope I will give up and close it. This will not happen and as in the eternal battle between good and evil, goodness and the truth always prevail and it is with their own demons they must ultimately do battle.

22nd March 2006, 12:50 PM	#18
Hardenbergh Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,077	I thought you'd be interesting in seeing Dr. Turi's prices for his readings. After seeing the dollar signs, I'm beginning to look at him with new eyes. He's a savvy businessman, too. He'll only accept credit cards or money orders--no personal checks. http://www.drturi.com/readings.php I also came across another website but I can't seem to find the author of the website. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aspie/tru...e/newyear.html
	Last edited by Hardenbergh; 22nd March 2006 at 01:06 PM.

22nd March 2006, 01:03 PM	#19
Hardenbergh Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,077	Originally Posted by Sasha What exactly is an astropsychologist? It may be evident to others, but I've never heard the term and I can't find a definition anywhere. What sort of degree is earned for this and what is one qualified for when one earns it? By his own admission, Dr. Turi is one-of-a-kind. Quote: Note also, that I am not a psychic or a regular astrologer, but an Astropsychologist. I cannot be remotely compared to anyone else, or experiences, you have had with regular astrologers or psychics in the past. http://www.drturi.com/beforeordering.php

22nd March 2006, 01:08 PM	#20
Cthulhu Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 144	Originally Posted by jj There were 170 over M2.5 in the world in the same period, including one very near R'yleh Sorry, had gas.
Cthulhu Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 144	__________________ Jesus saves. (Esposito picks up the rebound and SCORES!) Allah Forgives. Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. Haw Haw!

22nd March 2006, 01:11 PM	#21
Sasha Muse Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 657	Originally Posted by Hardenbergh By his own admission, Dr. Turi is one-of-a-kind. So you're saying he's a one-of-a-kind not real Doctor with a made-up title.

22nd March 2006, 01:13 PM	#22
Hardenbergh Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,077	Originally Posted by Sasha So you're saying he's a one-of-a-kind not real Doctor with a made-up title. It just sounds like he's bragging a little. He's in awe of himself.

22nd March 2006, 01:22 PM	#23
Babylon Sister Muse Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Darkness on the edge of Town Posts: 659	There was a 4.something earthquake off the coast of northern California yesterday, but I'm not sure if Tuesday counts as "the weekend." Wouldn't that count as a hit? I mean he was only off by 10 days afterall.

22nd March 2006, 01:35 PM	#24
ambergeekgirl New Blood Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15	Wow, this guy is a dick. That's right, you too can save your child from suicide for just $200 bucks. Don't wait, act now! Grrrr! From his site. I apparently can't post URL's until I have 15 posts. Quote: Children Characterology $200 add $10 S&H : Do not hesitate to invest in your child. You might have given life to a genius or an artist. Find out how and why your child thinks or behaves with you or the world at large. Find out why your child is the way he/she is. Give him/her the EARLY opportunity to regenerate his/her spirit and get the right direction in life. Let me introduce your star children, as you never knew them before. Do not let the worst of the stars take control over their destiny. In this day and age children need spiritual regeneration more than ever. The sad fact is that over 6000 of them commit suicide every year in the US alone while other children are killing each other in schools. Don't wait until it¹s too late, understand the dilemma from Astropsychology and let Dr. Turi help your child with this service. Your child's future is worth it! I saved many teenagers from suicidal tendencies, gang activity, drug/alcohol addictions and put them right back on the road of health, success and happiness. Save thousands of dollars on wasteful sessions of traditional psychotherapy and years of guilt and sorrow. Do it for his/her birthday and watch the results.
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22nd March 2006, 02:05 PM	#25
Joe Random Muse Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 697	I’ll have to scrounge around for message IDs and such, but Turdi has a huge reputation on Usenet as a ghoul and fraud. At one point we (tinw) got him to admit that his claimed doctorate doesn’t actually exist, and he only uses the title "Dr." beacuse his friends and supporters (all of whom sound suspiciously like Turdi when they write) supposedly call him “Dr.” as a sign of affection and respect. He’s a despicable human through and through, and has this nasty habit of using high-death-count natural disasters as a pulpit from which to scream about the accuracies of his “predictions”. An old but still accurate summation of this <rule8> can be found here : link (edit for clarification - I am not the author of the post I linked above)
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22nd March 2006, 02:32 PM	#26
Joe Random Muse Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 697	I found the post where Turi admits he doesn’t have a doctorate Quote: Hi, some of you have asked me and wondered what I am a doctor of. I generally just say, "Doctor of Metaphysics." I use the name "Dr." because I am a healer. I am not a physician nor do I have a doctorate from an accredited medical school. I got my metaphysical Mill Doctorate from the Light Church Institute In Sacramenton [sic], CA. My good friends called me Dr. Turi because of my powerful healing gifts and it stuck. I use that as my professional Stage Name. Full text here .
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23rd March 2006, 04:10 AM	#27
Sasha Muse Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 657	Thanks Joe. "Professional stage name"...kind of says it all, doesn't it?

23rd March 2006, 04:55 AM	#28
chillzero Domestic Godless Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Top of the world, ma! Posts: 15,226	Originally Posted by Hardenbergh I thought you'd be interesting in seeing Dr. Turi's prices for his readings. After seeing the dollar signs, I'm beginning to look at him with new eyes. He's a savvy businessman, too. He'll only accept credit cards or money orders--no personal checks. http://www.drturi.com/readings.php I also came across another website but I can't seem to find the author of the website. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aspie/tru...e/newyear.html Hardenburgh, I congratulate you for the change of perspective, and also admitting it here. However, would you consider viewing other claimed psychics with the same 'new eyes', regardless of a price tag? Just because the service is free, doesn't make it legitimate or any less fraudulent. I would hope you would look at the claims made, and any evidence for and against the claims, before you make your mind up. I know you took a bit of a bash over comments about another psychic, and I wanted to give you credit for seeing that this psychic is a con.

23rd March 2006, 05:07 AM	#29
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,066	Originally Posted by Psiload The only thing worse than his predictions is his toupee: http://www.jerrypippin.com/Dr%20louis%20Turi.jpg It looks like he's got a hollowed out wombat carcass on his head. Have we heard from Tim recently?
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23rd March 2006, 06:42 AM	#30
Skeptic Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the chessboard Posts: 18,361	There's quite a bit about this ghoul on the internet, especially on usenet--in groups like sci.skeptic and alt.astrology. Start here: "Dr." Turi is not actually a real doctor. He usually calls himself either an "MD" for "doctor of metaphysics" or "DDS" for "doctor of divine sciences"--his "doctorate" was bought from a diploma mill for $20 or so. His usual "spiel" is to a). predict some earthquake of some magniture would occur within some period of time somewhere in an earthquake zone, and b). when an earthquake actually stikes and kills people, he crows: "I PREDICTED IT!!!". He's a pathetic ghoul and scam artist. By the way, his book "Moon Power Starguide 2002" is the #3,519,007 on Amazon's best-selling list. I didn't know Amazon HAD that many books.
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23rd March 2006, 06:49 AM	#31
ChristineR Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,189	I need something brain-dead to distract me while I program...I'm going to listen to his 2 hour interview on his methods. If I make it through, I'll report.
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24th March 2006, 08:06 PM	#32
Avita Scholar Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 75	The man's MO of implying a lot without actually stating it outright rubs me very much the wrong way. I took two random paragraphs, then quit reading in disgust. From his website (just click on the "Dragon explained" link on the left side) - Quote: Sir Isaac Newton wrote "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction". We are what we think, having become what we thought. Quoting out of context and without regard for the fact that Newton was referring to physical forces - check. Where he takes this thought is just plain offensive. Tell that to all the people who try to fight depression by desperately imagining that they are happy and not depressed. Heck, tell that to people who are highly succesful yet believe that they have no qualities that could have lead to such success. Quote: This statement emphasizes that for every thought or action, there will be an effect. Hmm. What might the effect be of thinking "Turi, you are made of very green, very moldy cheese"? Quote: This is what I call the "Universal Law", the cause and effect of the yin and yang recognized and accepted as the LAW OF KARMA. Modern Astrology classifies the Dragon's Head and Tail as the South and North Nodes of the Moon. To my knowledge, the Moon is, just by herself, quite responsible for the daily fate of the world and directly affects the weather and nature's forces at work. Recognized and supported by whom? How did you derive your knowledge? And I was unaware that the world had a fate. Or at least, it's doing such a good job of avoiding it that it's not immediately obvious that it has one. Hey, maybe that's why everything in the Universe spins so much! Quote: Obviously, the waxing and waning periods of our closest satellite will produce the daily process of the tides. The lunar cycle is 28 and a half days, which is the same as a woman's cycle. ::sings:: One of these cycles is not like the other, one of these cycles doesn't belong ::stops singing:: Seriously, what about those who have longer, shorter, or just plain irregular menstrual cycles? Are they evil for resisting the influence of the moon? Quote: Thus, women will have a physical and spiritual response Well, that answers the question right above. After all, what womanly woman wouldn't want to be controlled by the moon instead of herself? Quote: as we all will be responding subconsciously to the word, "LUNATIC". Including those who don't speak English, apparently. Quote: The scientific community is only aware of tremendous activity in the time of a Full Moon, but they still have no clue as to the tremendous information behind it. The police force and the hospital emergency rooms are also unusually busy at these times. Bashing the scientific community - check. Presenting urban myth as incontrovertible fact - check (see www skepdic com/fullmoon html) Quote: The Moon's subtle power is not yet understood by the scientific community but is wisely used by the aware farmer. However, many years of tedious observation have shown me that she is undeniably affecting the human psyche and our response to life. Yes, yes, we get it - "earth wisdom" is the best. Quote: Without opposing forces at work (positive/negative), there would be no reaction, thus, no life possible on both the spiritual and physical planes. Explain to my poor, weak, and non-earthy mind - when an object hits another object, they are both pushing on each other equally, right? By implication, they are exerting the same kind of force on each other, so which one of them is "positive" and which is "negative"? Quote: Our so-called "dead" satellite is very much alive, and vigilantly observing her whereabouts will make man grow steadfastly into a genius in predictive astrology. But not woman - she just needs to obediently react to the force the moon exerts on her. And I've got just one last sarcastic question - why aren't all astronomers (who by definition spend more time observing the moon than the average person) predictive astrologers yet?
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