Senior Australian Cop busted for giving information on case to Psychic

a_unique_person · 9th April 2006, 04:42 AM

A senior Australian Federal policeman has consulted his psychic about a threat to assasinate the Prime Minister. He disclosed classified information, which is a serious offence.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...916767666.html

Quote:

The Sunday Age can reveal that the mystic at the centre of the controversy is Elizabeth Walker, a Scottish-born medium based in the NSW Snowy Mountains town of Cooma.
When confronted yesterday, she said: "It's an extremely sensitive situation … how did you find out about this? If this gets out, the lad will lose his job.
"I can't comment because in my profession client confidentiality is paramount. I don't divulge any of the stuff I do. I've done lots of people. I've done political people, famous people, but I don't talk about who's been in. I don't even discuss it with my husband."
The AFP hierarchy was alerted in December to the security breach. The officer was not part of the Prime Minister's personal AFP security entourage, but he knew all about the death threat, and also knew it was being treated seriously.
Knowing some investigations had hit a dead end, the officer took matters into his own hands and turned to Mrs Walker.

And of course, they also say "The AFP takes seriously all allegations of misconduct by officers, and does not condone the use of psychics in security matters."

What an idiot.

Zep · 9th April 2006, 05:49 AM

I note that she did not warn him of this catastrophe happening in his life as a result of his obvious misdemeanour... So clearly she's not even a good hot-reading scammer, let alone fortune-teller/psychic/whatever

The back-story was that this was set in Cooma, a small country town near Australia's "snowfields". The previous "town-favourite" psychic in Cooma taught this particular woman all she knew(!) by reading tarot cards for her. But when the original went away on a holiday or something the new kid on the block took over as "town-favourite". And when the original came back, she was all miffed as a result of her lost fame (and fortune, no doubt)! Again, I wonder why she didn't see that in her own tea-leaves!

Seems there's lots of spare money going begging in Cooma...

Angus McPresley · 9th April 2006, 06:13 AM

I love her reaction when confronted:

Quote:

When confronted yesterday, she said: "It's an extremely sensitive situation . . . how did you find out about this? If this gets out, the lad will lose his job.

"I can't comment because in my profession client confidentiality is paramount. I don't divulge any of the stuff I do. I've done lots of people. I've done political people, famous people, but I don't talk about who's been in. I don't even discuss it with my husband."

Note that she could have denied it, or said "no comment", if she was really concerned about the officer's job, instead of this "What? Who told you? Aw, shucks" routine.

She's clearly delighted to have been outed. She's been happily whoring herself all over the TV news here now. Her career has been made.

Zep · 9th April 2006, 07:08 AM

Do you think it's time for some nasty little skeptics to ruin the party for her???

EHocking · 9th April 2006, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Zep

Do you think it's time for some nasty little skeptics to ruin the party for her???

Can a some of the nice ones join in as well?

Moochie · 9th April 2006, 07:26 AM

I like the way she said, "I've done lots of people."

Such Candor!

M.

NoZed Avenger · 9th April 2006, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Zep

Do you think it's time for some nasty little skeptics to ruin the party for her???

I see no way for that to happen. She can now claim that she's been consulted on the most important matters by a huge idio^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h a very important government offical, etc. etc. etc.

Zep · 9th April 2006, 05:41 PM

Heh!

No, I'm thinking of a few well-worded letters to the editor of a national daily. Make the reporters go look up this website and learn some more about "psychics". Although already the whole report makes her look like a self-serving scumbag (and the copper like a maroon) anyway.

Flange Desire · 9th April 2006, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Zep

Heh!

No, I'm thinking of a few well-worded letters to the editor of a national daily. Make the reporters go look up this website and learn some more about "psychics". Although already the whole report makes her look like a self-serving scumbag (and the copper like a maroon) anyway.

It never works for me.
I get so sad when my lobbying comes to nought.
But I do hope you have more success.

rustytunes · 9th April 2006, 11:28 PM

Well it made the national news here, so not the best publicity for the psychics. But I'm sure they will put their own spin on it.

Mojo · 10th April 2006, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

A senior Australian Federal policeman has consulted his psychic about a threat to assasinate the Prime Minister. He disclosed classified information, which is a serious offence.

Hang on.

He disclosed information to her? Isn't it supposed to work the other way round?

Or did she simply repeat back what he'd told her and wait for him to say "That's amazing! How could you possibly have known that?"

1984 · 1st May 2006, 07:27 PM

Taking a look at photo on the link AUP provided in the Op. Perspective compression shows use of a telescopic lens - to capture a shot of an unsuspecting person of media interest. I’m imagining two Fairfax employees, one a journalist, the other a photographer, sitting in a car across the road, waiting for the “media interest” to arrive home, before the photo is taken…

Photog: Thought you said the “psycho” would be home by now.
Journo: Well, yeah. We sussed her out all last week.
Photog: And?
Journo: That’s how it is on these stake-outs. Didn’t you volunteer?
Photog: Yeah, but only to get out of the office. If I knew I’d be stuck in a car…
Journo: It’s what you gotta do to make a difference.
Photog: I guess so. Hey, is that her?
Journo: Quick! Act inconspicuous!

[“Psychic” enters her home]

Photog: Go!
Journo: No, not yet! It’ll be too suspicious knocking on her door straight away.
Photog: Oh, okay. Lemme check my focus.
Journo: Did you see the doco on the ABC last night?
Photog: No?
Journo: Something about military organisation. They showed how responsibility for decisions are clouded by verballing instructions through different departments.
Photog: What’s all that mean?
Journo: Well, somewhere down the line, someone has to put pen to paper and accept responsibility. So if something stuffs-up, the ones at the top can’t be blamed.
Photog: Oh, okay. Mate, I’d never work for a shady organisation like that.
Journo: Same. If I were in an organisation like that, I’d be on to them straight away, and do something about it.
Photog: Me too.
Journo: Anyway, I’m off…
Photog: Remember, stand to the left.

With apologies to all those in the media with integrity, for whom the journalist's code of conduct is superfluous.

9th April 2006, 04:42 AM	#1
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mt Disappointment Posts: 33,325	Senior Australian Cop busted for giving information on case to Psychic A senior Australian Federal policeman has consulted his psychic about a threat to assasinate the Prime Minister. He disclosed classified information, which is a serious offence. http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...916767666.html Quote: The Sunday Age can reveal that the mystic at the centre of the controversy is Elizabeth Walker, a Scottish-born medium based in the NSW Snowy Mountains town of Cooma. When confronted yesterday, she said: "It's an extremely sensitive situation … how did you find out about this? If this gets out, the lad will lose his job. "I can't comment because in my profession client confidentiality is paramount. I don't divulge any of the stuff I do. I've done lots of people. I've done political people, famous people, but I don't talk about who's been in. I don't even discuss it with my husband." The AFP hierarchy was alerted in December to the security breach. The officer was not part of the Prime Minister's personal AFP security entourage, but he knew all about the death threat, and also knew it was being treated seriously. Knowing some investigations had hit a dead end, the officer took matters into his own hands and turned to Mrs Walker. And of course, they also say "The AFP takes seriously all allegations of misconduct by officers, and does not condone the use of psychics in security matters." What an idiot.
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9th April 2006, 05:49 AM	#2
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	I note that she did not warn him of this catastrophe happening in his life as a result of his obvious misdemeanour... So clearly she's not even a good hot-reading scammer, let alone fortune-teller/psychic/whatever The back-story was that this was set in Cooma, a small country town near Australia's "snowfields". The previous "town-favourite" psychic in Cooma taught this particular woman all she knew(!) by reading tarot cards for her. But when the original went away on a holiday or something the new kid on the block took over as "town-favourite". And when the original came back, she was all miffed as a result of her lost fame (and fortune, no doubt)! Again, I wonder why she didn't see *that* in her own tea-leaves! Seems there's lots of spare money going begging in Cooma...
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9th April 2006, 06:13 AM	#3
Angus McPresley Muse Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 645	I love her reaction when confronted: Quote: When confronted yesterday, she said: "It's an extremely sensitive situation . . . how did you find out about this? If this gets out, the lad will lose his job. "I can't comment because in my profession client confidentiality is paramount. I don't divulge any of the stuff I do. I've done lots of people. I've done political people, famous people, but I don't talk about who's been in. I don't even discuss it with my husband." Note that she could have denied it, or said "no comment", if she was really concerned about the officer's job, instead of this "What? Who told you? Aw, shucks" routine. She's clearly delighted to have been outed. She's been happily whoring herself all over the TV news here now. Her career has been made.
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9th April 2006, 07:08 AM	#4
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	Do you think it's time for some nasty little skeptics to ruin the party for her???
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9th April 2006, 07:21 AM	#5
EHocking Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,409	Originally Posted by Zep Do you think it's time for some nasty little skeptics to ruin the party for her??? Can a some of the nice ones join in as well?
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9th April 2006, 07:26 AM	#6
Moochie Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,495	I like the way she said, "I've done lots of people." Such Candor! M.
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9th April 2006, 08:19 AM	#7
NoZed Avenger Bitter Whiner Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 11,313	Originally Posted by Zep Do you think it's time for some nasty little skeptics to ruin the party for her??? I see no way for that to happen. She can now claim that she's been consulted on the most important matters by a huge idio^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h a very important government offical, etc. etc. etc.

9th April 2006, 05:41 PM	#8
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	Heh! No, I'm thinking of a few well-worded letters to the editor of a national daily. Make the reporters go look up this website and learn some more about "psychics". Although already the whole report makes her look like a self-serving scumbag (and the copper like a maroon) anyway.
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985

9th April 2006, 08:09 PM	#9
Flange Desire Muse Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 573	Originally Posted by Zep Heh! No, I'm thinking of a few well-worded letters to the editor of a national daily. Make the reporters go look up this website and learn some more about "psychics". Although already the whole report makes her look like a self-serving scumbag (and the copper like a maroon) anyway. It never works for me. I get so sad when my lobbying comes to nought. But I do hope you have more success.

9th April 2006, 11:28 PM	#10
rustytunes Thinker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 236	Well it made the national news here, so not the best publicity for the psychics. But I'm sure they will put their own spin on it.

10th April 2006, 10:33 AM	#11
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,089	Originally Posted by a_unique_person A senior Australian Federal policeman has consulted his psychic about a threat to assasinate the Prime Minister. He disclosed classified information, which is a serious offence. Hang on. He disclosed information to her? Isn't it supposed to work the other way round? Or did she simply repeat back what he'd told her and wait for him to say "That's amazing! How could you possibly have known that?"
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1st May 2006, 07:27 PM	#12
1984 ex-PiousWoo Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 347	Taking a look at photo on the link AUP provided in the Op. Perspective compression shows use of a telescopic lens - to capture a shot of an unsuspecting person of media interest. I’m imagining two Fairfax employees, one a journalist, the other a photographer, sitting in a car across the road, waiting for the “media interest” to arrive home, before the photo is taken… Photog: Thought you said the “psycho” would be home by now. Journo: Well, yeah. We sussed her out all last week. Photog: And? Journo: That’s how it is on these stake-outs. Didn’t you volunteer? Photog: Yeah, but only to get out of the office. If I knew I’d be stuck in a car… Journo: It’s what you gotta do to make a difference. Photog: I guess so. Hey, is that her? Journo: Quick! Act inconspicuous! [“Psychic” enters her home] Photog: Go! Journo: No, not yet! It’ll be too suspicious knocking on her door straight away. Photog: Oh, okay. Lemme check my focus. Journo: Did you see the doco on the ABC last night? Photog: No? Journo: Something about military organisation. They showed how responsibility for decisions are clouded by verballing instructions through different departments. Photog: What’s all that mean? Journo: Well, somewhere down the line, someone has to put pen to paper and accept responsibility. So if something stuffs-up, the ones at the top can’t be blamed. Photog: Oh, okay. Mate, I’d never work for a shady organisation like that. Journo: Same. If I were in an organisation like that, I’d be on to them straight away, and do something about it. Photog: Me too. Journo: Anyway, I’m off… Photog: Remember, stand to the left. With apologies to all those in the media with integrity, for whom the journalist's code of conduct is superfluous.
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