Bush/Blair Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

Nie Trink Wasser · 8th May 2003, 04:24 PM

http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle....toryID=2706011

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Bush, Blair Nominated for Nobel Prize for Iraq War
Thu May 8, 2003 10:28 AM ET
By Alister Doyle
OSLO (Reuters) - A Norwegian parliamentarian nominated President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair for the Nobel Peace Prize on Thursday, praising them for winning the war in Iraq.

'Sometimes it's necessary to use a small and effective war to prevent a much more dangerous war in the future,' Jan Simonsen, a right-wing independent in Norway's parliament, told Reuters.

'If nobody acted then Saddam Hussein could have produced weapons of mass destruction and, in five or 10 years, could have used them against Israel,' he said.

An award to Bush and Blair would be a U-turn after the Nobel Committee awarded the 2002 prize to former U.S. President Jimmy Carter last October. At the time, the committee chairman called it a kick in the shins to Bush's Iraq policies as Carter had been calling for a diplomatic solution.

Simonsen said the war had 'made it possible to create democracy and respect for human rights in a country which for so many years has been ruled by one of the worst dictators in modern times.'

8th May 2003, 04:26 PM

The Nobel Grammy.

Gem · 8th May 2003, 04:37 PM

Looks to me like the Nobel peace prize is being used as a political tool.

Nie Trink Wasser · 8th May 2003, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Gem
Looks to me like the Nobel peace prize is being used as a political tool.

unless of course, it's a leftist

Cain · 8th May 2003, 06:23 PM

Hey, Kissinger won a Nobel Prize on fraudulent grounds, so we shouldn't find it surprising. Still, I highly doubt one will be awarded to Bush and company (you know, those 40 other allies in the "coalition of the willing" that gave us their, um, support).

Ove · 8th May 2003, 11:53 PM

Well if they could give it to Arafat/Begin/Sadat then why not Curious George and Tony, his puppy.

Next step is probably that they will give it to Osama because he has NOT comitted any terror acts for 5 months in a row.

reprise · 9th May 2003, 12:02 AM

this is an award for which Adolph Hitler was also once nominated.

BTW, Bono is one of the 2003 nominees - the world just keeps getting weirder.

karl · 9th May 2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by reprise
this is an award for which Adolph Hitler was also once nominated.

BTW, Bono is one of the 2003 nominees - the world just keeps getting weirder.

Odd nominees aren't exactly relevant to the validity of the Peace Prize, since all members of national assemblies and state governments, and all university professors of social sciences, law, history, philosophy and theology (!) have the right to nominate whomever they feel like. In theory, Tariq Aziz could have nominated Saddam Hussein prior to the fall of the Iraqi government. But it is unlikely that the Norwegian Nobel Committee, who is used to wading through a lot of garbage nominations each year, would have picked him as the most deserving candidate.

http://www.nobel.se/peace/nomination/nominators.html

Lothian · 9th May 2003, 02:07 AM

It seems strange to me that the nominator proposes the pair because

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Originally posted
If nobody acted then Saddam Hussein could have produced weapons of mass destruction and, in five or 10 years, could have used them against Israel,' he said.

when the two of them only went to war because they claimed that Saddam HAD weapons of mass destruction not that he could have them in 5 - 10 years.

ithinksoiam · 10th May 2003, 08:56 PM

I think these Nobel awards have long outlived any usefulness. Yeah, give a peace award to warmongers! Yeah, thats the way to go boys!

subgenius · 11th May 2003, 06:35 PM

Alfred Nobel created the awards, in part, to assuage his guilt over the fact that his invention (dynamite) would be used so extensively in warfare.

8th May 2003, 04:24 PM	#1
Nie Trink Wasser Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,333	Bush/Blair Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle....toryID=2706011 Quote: Bush, Blair Nominated for Nobel Prize for Iraq War Thu May 8, 2003 10:28 AM ET By Alister Doyle OSLO (Reuters) - A Norwegian parliamentarian nominated President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair for the Nobel Peace Prize on Thursday, praising them for winning the war in Iraq. 'Sometimes it's necessary to use a small and effective war to prevent a much more dangerous war in the future,' Jan Simonsen, a right-wing independent in Norway's parliament, told Reuters. 'If nobody acted then Saddam Hussein could have produced weapons of mass destruction and, in five or 10 years, could have used them against Israel,' he said. An award to Bush and Blair would be a U-turn after the Nobel Committee awarded the 2002 prize to former U.S. President Jimmy Carter last October. At the time, the committee chairman called it a kick in the shins to Bush's Iraq policies as Carter had been calling for a diplomatic solution. Simonsen said the war had 'made it possible to create democracy and respect for human rights in a country which for so many years has been ruled by one of the worst dictators in modern times.'

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Gem Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 477	Looks to me like the Nobel peace prize is being used as a political tool.
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Cain Straussian Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,933	Hey, Kissinger won a Nobel Prize on fraudulent grounds, so we shouldn't find it surprising. Still, I highly doubt one will be awarded to Bush and company (you know, those 40 other allies in the "coalition of the willing" that gave us their, um, support).
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Ove Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,881	Well if they could give it to Arafat/Begin/Sadat then why not Curious George and Tony, his puppy. Next step is probably that they will give it to Osama because he has NOT comitted any terror acts for 5 months in a row.
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8th May 2003, 04:53 PM	#4
Nie Trink Wasser Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,333	Quote: Originally posted by Gem Looks to me like the Nobel peace prize is being used as a political tool. unless of course, it's a leftist

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reprise Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,859	Lest we forget... this is an award for which Adolph Hitler was also once nominated. BTW, Bono is one of the 2003 nominees - the world just keeps getting weirder.
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9th May 2003, 01:59 AM	#8
karl Thinker Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Uppsala Posts: 231	Re: Lest we forget... Quote: Originally posted by reprise this is an award for which Adolph Hitler was also once nominated. BTW, Bono is one of the 2003 nominees - the world just keeps getting weirder. Odd nominees aren't exactly relevant to the validity of the Peace Prize, since all members of national assemblies and state governments, and all university professors of social sciences, law, history, philosophy and theology (!) have the right to nominate whomever they feel like. In theory, Tariq Aziz could have nominated Saddam Hussein prior to the fall of the Iraqi government. But it is unlikely that the Norwegian Nobel Committee, who is used to wading through a lot of garbage nominations each year, would have picked him as the most deserving candidate. http://www.nobel.se/peace/nomination/nominators.html

9th May 2003, 02:07 AM	#9
Lothian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: https://twitter.com/CV4UK Posts: 10,373	Re: Bush/Blair Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize It seems strange to me that the nominator proposes the pair because Quote: Originally posted If nobody acted then Saddam Hussein could have produced weapons of mass destruction and, in five or 10 years, could have used them against Israel,' he said. when the two of them only went to war because they claimed that Saddam HAD weapons of mass destruction not that he could have them in 5 - 10 years.

10th May 2003, 08:56 PM	#10
ithinksoiam New Blood Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 11	Get rid of these damn awards already! I think these Nobel awards have long outlived any usefulness. Yeah, give a peace award to warmongers! Yeah, thats the way to go boys!
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subgenius Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,788	Alfred Nobel created the awards, in part, to assuage his guilt over the fact that his invention (dynamite) would be used so extensively in warfare.
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