Deer Hunting with Howitzers

headscratcher4 · 13th June 2006, 06:20 AM

http://www.buckstix.com/howitzer.htm

A real man's sport....

Cylinder · 13th June 2006, 06:45 AM

I saw this page last year - quite impressive. I'd be willing to bet that this practice has been used through history to supplement rations for artillery units camping in the field. It's a nice shot pattern on the buck pictured, but I wonder what the exit side looked like.

Wasteful hunters are sloppy hunters, IMHO. It could be that the velocity of the cannister shot is low enough to prevent a complete blowout. The game was dressed, so it at least implies that the venison was recoverable.

shemp · 13th June 2006, 06:45 AM

I prefer to use a Gatling gun.

Vorticity · 13th June 2006, 07:17 AM

Personally, I prefer the time-honored anti-aircraft gun and flame thrower formula. It's the best thing for it, you know.

[Ringo] "Oh yes, a quick kill is best." [/Ringo]

SPQR · 13th June 2006, 09:35 AM

I'm usually against hunting, but wow.

Some people have way too much time and artillery on their hands.

Charlie Monoxide · 13th June 2006, 09:56 AM

That's sounds like something I'd do after fishing with dynamite ....

Charlie (we're top of the food chain) Monoxide

brodski · 13th June 2006, 10:22 AM

But what are the deer hunting? and how did they get their hooves on Howitzers?

shemp · 13th June 2006, 10:53 AM

When I first moved to the town I live in (1989), it was still somewhat rural, a mix of suburb and farms. There was a guy who had a Howitzer cannon on his farm about a mile from my house, and he liked to fire it now and then. You could hear it all over town when he did. The locals called him "Rambo" (not to his face though). In 1991 the town was getting too crowded for him so he sold his place and moved north.

azazal · 13th June 2006, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

When I first moved to the town I live in (1989), it was still somewhat rural, a mix of suburb and farms. There was a guy who had a Howitzer cannon on his farm about a mile from my house, and he liked to fire it now and then. You could hear it all over town when he did. The locals called him "Rambo" (not to his face though). In 1991 the town was getting too crowded for him so he sold his place and moved north.

Reminds me of TREMORS

[Burt cuts off a piece of fuse for a bomb for Earl]
Earl Bassett: What kind of fuse is that?
Burt Gummer: Cannon fuse
Earl Bassett: What the hell do you use it for?
Burt Gummer: My cannon!

Tony · 13th June 2006, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Monoxide

That's sounds like something I'd do after fishing with dynamite ....

Pussy, we all know real men fish with nuclear weapons. Take your Black Cats home to mommy.

Bikewer · 13th June 2006, 02:01 PM

Back when I was in the army, 'round 1965, we went out to the M-79 grenade launcher range so that the infantry (I was a medic, we always "supported" the range details) guys could qualify.
On arrival, there was one of the big German bunny rabbits peacefully grazing about 50 yards out. These rabbits (hares, the Germans call 'em.) were about the size of a jackrabbit, but moved more like cottontails.
Anyway, the captain in charge of the detail said "give me a grenade launcher", and proceeded to fire a round at the bunny.
The grenade landed some feet from the critter, who looked up from his grazing, undisturbed, and took a couple of hops before continuing his breakfast.
The captain fired four more rounds at the bunny, who never appeared to be even slightly concerned with this activity. Finally, he hopped off into the woods, unscathed.

Cleon · 13th June 2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bikewer

Back when I was in the army, 'round 1965, we went out to the M-79 grenade launcher range so that the infantry (I was a medic, we always "supported" the range details) guys could qualify.
On arrival, there was one of the big German bunny rabbits peacefully grazing about 50 yards out. These rabbits (hares, the Germans call 'em.) were about the size of a jackrabbit, but moved more like cottontails.
Anyway, the captain in charge of the detail said "give me a grenade launcher", and proceeded to fire a round at the bunny.
The grenade landed some feet from the critter, who looked up from his grazing, undisturbed, and took a couple of hops before continuing his breakfast.
The captain fired four more rounds at the bunny, who never appeared to be even slightly concerned with this activity. Finally, he hopped off into the woods, unscathed.

Yay! Go bunny rabbit!

(So much for the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch...)

SPQR · 13th June 2006, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Cleon

Yay! Go bunny rabbit!

(So much for the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch...)

That rabbit must have been dynamite!

Ranb · 13th June 2006, 03:16 PM

The 50 BMG is a peepsqueak compared to that cannon used above, but it did a job on the whitetail in this link. The opinions of the other hunters replying to the guy's post are illuminating. http://forums.accuratereloading.com/...82/m/960109673

Ranb

Mycroft · 13th June 2006, 10:38 PM

Oh, don't forget to check out the page where he hunts feral cats with a morter

http://www.buckstix.com/CoehornMortarHunt.htm

"...In unlikely event that you have "no luck what-so-ever" and you find yourself hitting a Feral cat with you Mortar at the very same time as Uniformed People show up, KEEP COOL . There is still a chance that the Warden ( or whatever ) will hate cats. Statistically, Over 60% of people in general hate cats, so the odds are in your favor. There is also a chance that he or she might have a sense of humor. To probe this, explain that ... " there you were ... minding your own business ... shooting your Coehorn Mortar at pans filled with milk ... when, wouldn't you know it, a really stupid cat wandered right into your target area." Explain that ... " Darwin's Law must have put that cat's head right under the cannon ball in order to remove him from the feline gene pool." If after all this, you are still in trouble, remember there is always a 60/40 chance that the Judge will also hate cats. The Judge might even have a sense of humor when he exclaims to the Game Warden, .............. "You telling me he intentionally hit a Cat with a Cannon ball at 400 yards?"

Zep · 13th June 2006, 11:47 PM

...Darwin's Law???

jj · 14th June 2006, 12:55 AM

Eh, they ought to use a Trebuchet. Then I'd be impressed.

BPSCG · 14th June 2006, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by jj

Eh, they ought to use a Trebuchet. Then I'd be impressed.

To kill the deer by launching a boulder at him?

Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...?

Cleon · 14th June 2006, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

To kill the deer by launching a boulder at him?

Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...?

Hrm...I could go either way. Or do both, and make it a television special! I'd watch.

richardm · 14th June 2006, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...?

Sort of like clay pigeon shooting, but with deer? I can see that catching on as a sport.

Mycroft · 14th June 2006, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

To kill the deer by launching a boulder at him?

Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...?

I like the second one. Set up the trebuchet like a trap, then when the deer comes along and touches that salt-lick, it gets flung 1000 yards.

Might not be high-quality meat after it lands, though.

azazal · 14th June 2006, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mycroft

I like the second one. Set up the trebuchet like a trap, then when the deer comes along and touches that salt-lick, it gets flung 1000 yards.

Might not be high-quality meat after it lands, though.

But it should be very tender

BPSCG · 14th June 2006, 09:36 AM

Am I the only one who keeps (mis)reading the thread title as "Deer Hunting With Horowitz"?

Cleon · 14th June 2006, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

Am I the only one who keeps (mis)reading the thread title as "Deer Hunting With Horowitz"?

Heh...There's a Dick Cheney joke in there somewhere...

headscratcher4 · 14th June 2006, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

Am I the only one who keeps (mis)reading the thread title as "Deer Hunting With Horowitz"?

God, I'm such an awful speller, I had to go back and check the thread title to make sure I didn't screw it up.

jj · 14th June 2006, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

To kill the deer by launching a boulder at him?

Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...?

Hadn't thought of the second, but it's worth a hurl.

DaChew · 14th June 2006, 12:26 PM

I guess I'm the only true visionary and critical thinker here. Everyone else has missed the most important part of the story:

Deer Hunting with Howitzers would be a cool name for a band.

Deer Hunting with Horowitz? Eeeeehhhhh not so much.

headscratcher4 · 14th June 2006, 01:16 PM

Deer Hunting with Horowitz is the unpublished novel by Richard Braugtigan (sp?)...the sequal to Willard and the bowling trophies.

13th June 2006, 06:20 AM	#1
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,749	Deer Hunting with Howitzers http://www.buckstix.com/howitzer.htm A real man's sport....
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13th June 2006, 06:45 AM	#2
Cylinder Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,858	I saw this page last year - quite impressive. I'd be willing to bet that this practice has been used through history to supplement rations for artillery units camping in the field. It's a nice shot pattern on the buck pictured, but I wonder what the exit side looked like. Wasteful hunters are sloppy hunters, IMHO. It could be that the velocity of the cannister shot is low enough to prevent a complete blowout. The game was dressed, so it at least implies that the venison was recoverable.
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13th June 2006, 06:45 AM	#3
shemp Timothy, Timothy, where on earth did you go? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: trapped in a cave-in with Joe Posts: 12,885	I prefer to use a Gatling gun.
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13th June 2006, 09:35 AM	#5
SPQR Darwin's Dachshund Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 455	I'm usually against hunting, but wow. Some people have way too much time and artillery on their hands.
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13th June 2006, 09:56 AM	#6
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13th June 2006, 07:17 AM	#4
Vorticity Fluid Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Alamos, NM Posts: 2,650	Personally, I prefer the time-honored anti-aircraft gun and flame thrower formula. It's the best thing for it, you know. [Ringo] "Oh yes, a quick kill is best." [/Ringo]

13th June 2006, 10:22 AM	#7
brodski Tea-Time toad Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 15,076	But what are the deer hunting? and how did they get their hooves on Howitzers?
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13th June 2006, 10:53 AM	#8
shemp Timothy, Timothy, where on earth did you go? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: trapped in a cave-in with Joe Posts: 12,885	When I first moved to the town I live in (1989), it was still somewhat rural, a mix of suburb and farms. There was a guy who had a Howitzer cannon on his farm about a mile from my house, and he liked to fire it now and then. You could hear it all over town when he did. The locals called him "Rambo" (not to his face though). In 1991 the town was getting too crowded for him so he sold his place and moved north.
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13th June 2006, 10:58 AM	#9
azazal Ninja Wave: Techno Ninja Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 374	Originally Posted by shemp When I first moved to the town I live in (1989), it was still somewhat rural, a mix of suburb and farms. There was a guy who had a Howitzer cannon on his farm about a mile from my house, and he liked to fire it now and then. You could hear it all over town when he did. The locals called him "Rambo" (not to his face though). In 1991 the town was getting too crowded for him so he sold his place and moved north. Reminds me of TREMORS [Burt cuts off a piece of fuse for a bomb for Earl] Earl Bassett: What kind of fuse is that? Burt Gummer: Cannon fuse Earl Bassett: What the hell do you use it for? Burt Gummer: My cannon!
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13th June 2006, 11:07 AM	#10
Tony Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 13,759	Originally Posted by Charlie Monoxide That's sounds like something I'd do after fishing with dynamite .... Pussy, we all know real men fish with nuclear weapons. Take your Black Cats home to mommy.
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13th June 2006, 02:01 PM	#11
Bikewer Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 9,525	Back when I was in the army, 'round 1965, we went out to the M-79 grenade launcher range so that the infantry (I was a medic, we always "supported" the range details) guys could qualify. On arrival, there was one of the big German bunny rabbits peacefully grazing about 50 yards out. These rabbits (hares, the Germans call 'em.) were about the size of a jackrabbit, but moved more like cottontails. Anyway, the captain in charge of the detail said "give me a grenade launcher", and proceeded to fire a round at the bunny. The grenade landed some feet from the critter, who looked up from his grazing, undisturbed, and took a couple of hops before continuing his breakfast. The captain fired four more rounds at the bunny, who never appeared to be even slightly concerned with this activity. Finally, he hopped off into the woods, unscathed.

13th June 2006, 02:20 PM	#12
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,519	Originally Posted by Bikewer Back when I was in the army, 'round 1965, we went out to the M-79 grenade launcher range so that the infantry (I was a medic, we always "supported" the range details) guys could qualify. On arrival, there was one of the big German bunny rabbits peacefully grazing about 50 yards out. These rabbits (hares, the Germans call 'em.) were about the size of a jackrabbit, but moved more like cottontails. Anyway, the captain in charge of the detail said "give me a grenade launcher", and proceeded to fire a round at the bunny. The grenade landed some feet from the critter, who looked up from his grazing, undisturbed, and took a couple of hops before continuing his breakfast. The captain fired four more rounds at the bunny, who never appeared to be even slightly concerned with this activity. Finally, he hopped off into the woods, unscathed. Yay! Go bunny rabbit! (So much for the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch...)
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13th June 2006, 02:38 PM	#13
SPQR Darwin's Dachshund Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 455	Originally Posted by Cleon Yay! Go bunny rabbit! (So much for the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch...) That rabbit must have been dynamite!
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13th June 2006, 03:16 PM	#14
Ranb Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA USA Posts: 4,101	The 50 BMG is a peepsqueak compared to that cannon used above, but it did a job on the whitetail in this link. The opinions of the other hunters replying to the guy's post are illuminating. http://forums.accuratereloading.com/...82/m/960109673 Ranb

13th June 2006, 10:38 PM	#15
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13th June 2006, 11:47 PM	#16
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14th June 2006, 12:55 AM	#17
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,508	Eh, they ought to use a Trebuchet. Then I'd be impressed.
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14th June 2006, 05:52 AM	#18
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Originally Posted by jj Eh, they ought to use a Trebuchet. Then I'd be impressed. To kill the deer by launching a boulder at him? Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...?
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14th June 2006, 06:08 AM	#19
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,519	Originally Posted by BPSCG To kill the deer by launching a boulder at him? Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...? Hrm...I could go either way. Or do both, and make it a television special! I'd watch.
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14th June 2006, 06:16 AM	#20
richardm Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,270	Originally Posted by BPSCG Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...? Sort of like clay pigeon shooting, but with deer? I can see that catching on as a sport.
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14th June 2006, 09:07 AM	#21
Mycroft High Priest of Ed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 16,105	Originally Posted by BPSCG To kill the deer by launching a boulder at him? Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...? I like the second one. Set up the trebuchet like a trap, then when the deer comes along and touches that salt-lick, it gets flung 1000 yards. Might not be high-quality meat after it lands, though.
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14th June 2006, 09:22 AM	#22
azazal Ninja Wave: Techno Ninja Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 374	Originally Posted by Mycroft I like the second one. Set up the trebuchet like a trap, then when the deer comes along and touches that salt-lick, it gets flung 1000 yards. Might not be high-quality meat after it lands, though. But it should be very tender
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14th June 2006, 09:36 AM	#23
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Am I the only one who keeps (mis)reading the thread title as "Deer Hunting With Horowitz"?
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14th June 2006, 09:39 AM	#24
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,519	Originally Posted by BPSCG Am I the only one who keeps (mis)reading the thread title as "Deer Hunting With Horowitz"? Heh...There's a Dick Cheney joke in there somewhere...
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14th June 2006, 10:42 AM	#25
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,749	Originally Posted by BPSCG Am I the only one who keeps (mis)reading the thread title as "Deer Hunting With Horowitz"? God, I'm such an awful speller, I had to go back and check the thread title to make sure I didn't screw it up.
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14th June 2006, 11:05 AM	#26
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,508	Originally Posted by BPSCG To kill the deer by launching a boulder at him? Or to kill the deer by catching the deer, loading him into the trebuchet...? Hadn't thought of the second, but it's worth a hurl.
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14th June 2006, 12:26 PM	#27
DaChew Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,043	I guess I'm the only true visionary and critical thinker here. Everyone else has missed the most important part of the story: Deer Hunting with Howitzers would be a cool name for a band. Deer Hunting with Horowitz? Eeeeehhhhh not so much.
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14th June 2006, 01:16 PM	#28
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,749	Deer Hunting with Horowitz is the unpublished novel by Richard Braugtigan (sp?)...the sequal to Willard and the bowling trophies.
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