9/11 CTs in the classroom

senorpogo · 5th July 2006, 11:48 AM

http://www.wkowtv.com/index.php/news/story/p/pkid/24346

bob_kark · 5th July 2006, 12:15 PM

You'd think the University of Wisconsin wouldn't enjoy their professors abusing their position of power. I wonder how familiar the professor is with argumentum ad verecundiam. He can claim all he wants that he never forces his students to believe his theories. The fact is, by being in a position of authority and educating his students with mostly factual information, he's creating an environment where his students will be more likely to accept his woo beliefs as truth. I hope that at the very least UW will realize this and not allow him to teach this course.

senorpogo · 5th July 2006, 12:25 PM

This page has the syllabus.

http://www.620wtmj.com/_content/talk...25&entry=20919

gfunkusarelius · 5th July 2006, 01:06 PM

man, its so annoying how instead of staying on the task of challenging the "Facts", these people spend a bunch of time on explanations on how basically the more people think something isnt true, the more likely it is, duh duh duh!!!! he says "wmd is a relatively little lie so people doubt it" but he argues that the 9/11 coverup is so big people have to believe it.
what?!?

hellaeon · 5th July 2006, 06:38 PM

Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance

hahaha!

senorpogo · 5th July 2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by hellaeon

Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance

hahaha!

They fight against the power of Buddhism.

WildCat · 5th July 2006, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by bob_kark

You'd think the University of Wisconsin wouldn't enjoy their professors abusing their position of power. I wonder how familiar the professor is with argumentum ad verecundiam. He can claim all he wants that he never forces his students to believe his theories. The fact is, by being in a position of authority and educating his students with mostly factual information, he's creating an environment where his students will be more likely to accept his woo beliefs as truth. I hope that at the very least UW will realize this and not allow him to teach this course.

When I was in school I knew that parroting the teachers beliefs was a good way to get a better grade, but it sure didn't mean I believed the stuff I wrote.

I guess that makes me unprincipled though.

CptColumbo · 5th July 2006, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by hellaeon

Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance

I'd hate to see what happens at the annual picnic. The fight over who ate all the kosher hot dogs alone would cause a huge todo.

gumboot · 6th July 2006, 12:23 AM

OMFG

Quote:

The writers offer reflections on 9/11 and empire informed by the moral principles of their religious traditions as well as by the obligation to engage in thoughtful dialogue with those of other traditions

How about reflections informed by REALITY. Yeez.

"We don't need facts, we have moral principles and thoughtful dialogue."

-Andrew

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gfunkusarelius Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 436	man, its so annoying how instead of staying on the task of challenging the "Facts", these people spend a bunch of time on explanations on how basically the more people think something isnt true, the more likely it is, duh duh duh!!!! he says "wmd is a relatively little lie so people doubt it" but he argues that the 9/11 coverup is so big people have to believe it. what?!?
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hellaeon Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: City of Burning Churches, Australia Posts: 1,493	Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance hahaha!
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senorpogo Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,005	Originally Posted by hellaeon Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance hahaha! They fight against the power of Buddhism.
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5th July 2006, 06:53 PM	#7
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 23,599	Originally Posted by bob_kark You'd think the University of Wisconsin wouldn't enjoy their professors abusing their position of power. I wonder how familiar the professor is with argumentum ad verecundiam. He can claim all he wants that he never forces his students to believe his theories. The fact is, by being in a position of authority and educating his students with mostly factual information, he's creating an environment where his students will be more likely to accept his woo beliefs as truth. I hope that at the very least UW will realize this and not allow him to teach this course. When I was in school I knew that parroting the teachers beliefs was a good way to get a better grade, but it sure didn't mean I believed the stuff I wrote. I guess that makes me unprincipled though.
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5th July 2006, 09:40 PM	#8
CptColumbo Just One More Question Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 7,424	Originally Posted by hellaeon Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance I'd hate to see what happens at the annual picnic. The fight over who ate all the kosher hot dogs alone would cause a huge todo.
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6th July 2006, 12:23 AM	#9
gumboot Norad Ninja Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 16,396	OMFG Quote: The writers offer reflections on 9/11 and empire informed by the moral principles of their religious traditions as well as by the obligation to engage in thoughtful dialogue with those of other traditions How about reflections informed by REALITY. Yeez. "We don't need facts, we have moral principles and thoughtful dialogue." -Andrew
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