Found more to add to the WOO pool.

SBrown · 10th July 2006, 10:03 PM

Check this out:

Videos of the WOO doctors

Psychiatry exposed and the profession just reeks of WOO'ism. Scism and all that these guys are the scammers for sure. What do you all think?

Gravy · 10th July 2006, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by SBrown

Check this out:

Videos of the WOO doctors

Psychiatry exposed and the profession just reeks of WOO'ism. Scism and all that these guys are the scammers for sure. What do you all think?

Since you're back to your old ways already, I think you've been drinking again, SBrown.

SBrown · 10th July 2006, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

Since you're back to your old ways already, I think you've been drinking again, SBrown.

So I guess we do not consider these guys woos? I am just trying to learn the ropes here, thought they looked more woo then anything.

Senor_Pointy · 10th July 2006, 10:20 PM

"Psychiatry Exposed" ???

It seemed more like a poor attempt to present biased and fallacious opinions of woos as fact and edit legitimate doctors' statements to just say what the woos want you to hear.

I will agree that the three people presenting it are "WOO Doctors" though.

Gravy · 10th July 2006, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by SBrown

So I guess we do not consider these guys woos? I am just trying to learn the ropes here, thought they looked more woo then anything.

People have spent a lot of their time here showing you "the ropes." If you want more attention and want to talk about yourself, I suggest starting a thread in the community subforum. I'll be putting you on "ignore."

Zep · 11th July 2006, 12:20 AM

SBrown, you don't like psyciatrists? Is that right?

fabian_lidman · 11th July 2006, 02:52 AM

Ooh great, a scientology video! (CCHR was started by the church of scientology).

Zep · 11th July 2006, 06:18 AM

I guessed as much...hence my previous question.

Arkan_Wolfshade · 11th July 2006, 06:26 AM

Just as a general rebuttal to the video's claims about "no tests"; what we do have are confirmed double-blind studies as to the effectiveness of psychotropic, anti-psychotic, etc meds in treating behaviors.

The effort of the APA and their handbook is to provide a codefied standard for diagnosing these behaviors. Yes, mental illness is just a spectrum of behaviors that are arbitrarily categorized into different "illnesses" such as bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, depression, etc.

That said, it is important to apply a little extra critical thinking when dealing with psychiatry/psychology as they are more subjective than cardiology or orthopedics.

Pardalis · 11th July 2006, 04:41 PM

Wow, Sbrown, 9/11 denyer and now a scientologist... It's not getting better for you is it?

blutoski · 12th July 2006, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by SBrown

Check this out:

Videos of the WOO doctors

Psychiatry exposed and the profession just reeks of WOO'ism. Scism and all that these guys are the scammers for sure. What do you all think?

I think you've intercepted a propaganda film, created by Scientologists.

Pretty much every statement in the film is a bold-faced lie.

Psychiatry denial is more dangerous than Holocaust denial, IMO.

blutoski · 12th July 2006, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by fabian_lidman

Ooh great, a scientology video! (CCHR was started by the church of scientology).

Just to add to this: not only was the CCHR started by the CO$, but it is still a division of the Church. The CCHR has repeatedly filed for tax exemption as a religious organization, and the Church of Scientology lists it on their books for this purpose.

Many prominent critics of Psychiatry have left the organization, because they discovered that the CCHR was not merely being scientifically critical, but was fabricating their case. They generally object to the CO$' tendency toward racketeering and other illegal activities. Peter Breggin, for example.

The CO$ is about as far from skepticism as you can get. The CO$ has been convicted with forgery of government documents, related to attempts to discredit CSICOP, for example.

Belz... · 12th July 2006, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by SBrown

So I guess we do not consider these guys woos? I am just trying to learn the ropes here, thought they looked more woo then anything.

You wouldn't be a scientologist, would you ?

ETA: And I thought I was Soooooo smart!

Axenos · 12th July 2006, 09:27 AM

Xenu is my homeboy.

j/k

Axe

10th July 2006, 10:03 PM	#1
SBrown Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 314	Found more to add to the WOO pool. Check this out: Videos of the WOO doctors Psychiatry exposed and the profession just reeks of WOO'ism. Scism and all that these guys are the scammers for sure. What do you all think?
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10th July 2006, 10:11 PM	#2
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by SBrown Check this out: Videos of the WOO doctors Psychiatry exposed and the profession just reeks of WOO'ism. Scism and all that these guys are the scammers for sure. What do you all think? Since you're back to your old ways already, I think you've been drinking again, SBrown.
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10th July 2006, 10:16 PM	#3
SBrown Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 314	Originally Posted by Gravy Since you're back to your old ways already, I think you've been drinking again, SBrown. So I guess we do not consider these guys woos? I am just trying to learn the ropes here, thought they looked more woo then anything.
SBrown Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 314

10th July 2006, 10:20 PM	#5
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by SBrown So I guess we do not consider these guys woos? I am just trying to learn the ropes here, thought they looked more woo then anything. People have spent a lot of their time here showing you "the ropes." If you want more attention and want to talk about yourself, I suggest starting a thread in the community subforum. I'll be putting you on "ignore."
	__________________ "Please, keep your chops cool and don’t overblow.” –Freddie Hubbard What's the Harm?........Stop Sylvia Browne........My 9/11 links

11th July 2006, 12:20 AM	#6
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	SBrown, you don't like psyciatrists? Is that right?
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10th July 2006, 10:20 PM	#4
Senor_Pointy Fruity Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sideways Posts: 364	"Psychiatry Exposed" ??? It seemed more like a poor attempt to present biased and fallacious opinions of woos as fact and edit legitimate doctors' statements to just say what the woos want you to hear. I will agree that the three people presenting it are "WOO Doctors" though.

11th July 2006, 02:52 AM	#7
fabian_lidman Scholar Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 99	Ooh great, a scientology video! (CCHR was started by the church of scientology).

11th July 2006, 06:18 AM	#8
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	I guessed as much...hence my previous question.
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11th July 2006, 06:26 AM	#9
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	Just as a general rebuttal to the video's claims about "no tests"; what we do have are confirmed double-blind studies as to the effectiveness of psychotropic, anti-psychotic, etc meds in treating behaviors. The effort of the APA and their handbook is to provide a codefied standard for diagnosing these behaviors. Yes, mental illness is just a spectrum of behaviors that are arbitrarily categorized into different "illnesses" such as bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, depression, etc. That said, it is important to apply a little extra critical thinking when dealing with psychiatry/psychology as they are more subjective than cardiology or orthopedics.
	__________________ Amy: You should try homeopathic medicine, Bender. Try some zinc. Bender: I am forty percent zinc. Amy: Then take some echinacea, or St. John's Wort. Professor: Or a big fat placebo. It's all the same crap.

11th July 2006, 04:41 PM	#10
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	Wow, Sbrown, 9/11 denyer and now a scientologist... It's not getting better for you is it?

12th July 2006, 09:00 AM	#11
blutoski Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 5,976	Originally Posted by SBrown Check this out: Videos of the WOO doctors Psychiatry exposed and the profession just reeks of WOO'ism. Scism and all that these guys are the scammers for sure. What do you all think? I think you've intercepted a propaganda film, created by Scientologists. Pretty much every statement in the film is a bold-faced lie. Psychiatry denial is more dangerous than Holocaust denial, IMO.

12th July 2006, 09:14 AM	#12
blutoski Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 5,976	Originally Posted by fabian_lidman Ooh great, a scientology video! (CCHR was started by the church of scientology). Just to add to this: not only was the CCHR started by the CO$, but it is still a division of the Church. The CCHR has repeatedly filed for tax exemption as a religious organization, and the Church of Scientology lists it on their books for this purpose. Many prominent critics of Psychiatry have left the organization, because they discovered that the CCHR was not merely being scientifically critical, but was fabricating their case. They generally object to the CO$' tendency toward racketeering and other illegal activities. Peter Breggin, for example. The CO$ is about as far from skepticism as you can get. The CO$ has been convicted with forgery of government documents, related to attempts to discredit CSICOP, for example.

12th July 2006, 09:24 AM	#13
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details... Posts: 28,500	Originally Posted by SBrown So I guess we do not consider these guys woos? I am just trying to learn the ropes here, thought they looked more woo then anything. You wouldn't be a scientologist, would you ? ETA: And I thought I was Soooooo smart!
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12th July 2006, 09:27 AM	#14
Axenos Hedgehog Mahout Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Held Prisoner By Sheepling Central Command Posts: 3,314	Xenu is my homeboy. j/k Axe