Bad communications with the dead?

ynot · 21st July 2006, 09:40 PM

If there are spirits/souls that live on after people die that some living people can communicate with, why are there any unsolved murders and missing bodies?

fuelair · 21st July 2006, 10:03 PM

Toll call charges too high.

CFLarsen · 21st July 2006, 11:09 PM

Being dead invalidates your ability to speak clearly. You are reduced to hissing letters. Sorta like Gollum.

Being psychic invalidates your ability to hear clearly. You are reduced to guessing names that sound alike. Sorta like a cold-reader.

ynot · 22nd July 2006, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

Being dead invalidates your ability to speak clearly. You are reduced to hissing letters. Sorta like Gollum.

Being psychic invalidates your ability to hear clearly. You are reduced to guessing names that sound alike. Sorta like a cold-reader.

Or perhaps God has made it that spirits automatically become game show hosts and they can only hint at one letter at a time? (sounds like a C or a D or perhaps a B . . . maybe an E)

CFLarsen · 22nd July 2006, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by ynot

Or perhaps God has made it that spirits automatically become game show hosts and they can only hint at one letter at a time? (sounds like a C or a D or perhaps a B . . . maybe an E)

Do they all look like Alex Trebek or Vanna White?

veggie doll · 22nd July 2006, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by ynot

If there are spirits/souls that live on after people die that some living people can communicate with, why are there any unsolved murders and missing bodies?

Because living people can't really communicate with dead people, they can only pretend to.

I do wonder how a 'psychic' would answer this question though.

FireGarden · 22nd July 2006, 02:20 AM

Quote:

I do wonder how a 'psychic' would answer this question though.

The dead tell us... We just don't hear or understand.

ynot · 22nd July 2006, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

Do they all look like Alex Trebek or Vanna White?

Given that it's heaven, it's gotta be Vanna White

ynot · 22nd July 2006, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by veggie doll

Because living people can't really communicate with dead people, they can only pretend to.

I do wonder how a 'psychic' would answer this question though.

I way hoping a psychic/medium would contribute (or at least a beleiver in them)

ynot · 22nd July 2006, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by FireGarden

The dead tell us... We just don't hear or understand.

Then how can they tell us?

FireGarden · 22nd July 2006, 02:46 AM

Like the Pigasus awards....
They send. It's not their fault if we don't receive.

Look, mate!

Every police officer that ever solved a murder did so in his dreams. Where do dreams come from? Huh? Huh? Go on, tell me!

QED

ynot · 22nd July 2006, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by FireGarden

Like the Pigasus awards....
They send. It's not their fault if we don't receive.

How can it be known it is sent if it is not received? Is there a third party in a limbo between life and death that can communicate with both that says a spirit is sending you a message but you won't receive it?

Quote:

Look, mate!

Every police officer that ever solved a murder did so in his dreams. Where do dreams come from? Huh? Huh? Go on, tell me!
QED

And I thought they did it by fabricating evidence. Dreams come from the land of nod.

Beerina · 22nd July 2006, 04:01 PM

If it's possible to transmit any information, then it's possible to transmit Morse Code, and sooner or later somebody who knows it must have died and tried to talk to somebody else who does, and they would have established a clear channel of communications.

"I'm hearing an M...an M...Ma...em, em anybody?"

"I have a m-other!"

ynot · 22nd July 2006, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Beerina

If it's possible to transmit any information, then it's possible to transmit Morse Code, and sooner or later somebody who knows it must have died and tried to talk to somebody else who does, and they would have established a clear channel of communications.

"I'm hearing an M...an M...Ma...em, em anybody?"

"I have a m-other!"

So that would be . . . “I am hearing a dash dash . . . A dash dash . . . dash dash, dot dash . . . em, em anybody?"
“I have a dash dash, dash dash dash, dash, dot dot dot dot, dot, dot dash dot”

FireGarden · 23rd July 2006, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by ynot

Dreams come from the land of nod.

Where Cain was banished. Therefore where all murderers are banished.

Which is why the "Jack the Ripper" case been solved recently. He sent a dream from the land of Nod.

Are you still doubting me?

Meffy · 23rd July 2006, 08:55 AM

The dead are inveterate pranksters. With all of eternity to while away is it any wonder that they set the living up for some pratfalls now and then? It's only natural, sez me.

21st July 2006, 09:40 PM	#1
ynot Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,653	Bad communications with the dead? If there are spirits/souls that live on after people die that some living people can communicate with, why are there any unsolved murders and missing bodies?
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CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Being dead invalidates your ability to speak clearly. You are reduced to hissing letters. Sorta like Gollum. Being psychic invalidates your ability to hear clearly. You are reduced to guessing names that sound alike. Sorta like a cold-reader.
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22nd July 2006, 01:33 AM	#4
ynot Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,653	Originally Posted by CFLarsen Being dead invalidates your ability to speak clearly. You are reduced to hissing letters. Sorta like Gollum. Being psychic invalidates your ability to hear clearly. You are reduced to guessing names that sound alike. Sorta like a cold-reader. Or perhaps God has made it that spirits automatically become game show hosts and they can only hint at one letter at a time? (sounds like a C or a D or perhaps a B . . . maybe an E)
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22nd July 2006, 01:45 AM	#5
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by ynot Or perhaps God has made it that spirits automatically become game show hosts and they can only hint at one letter at a time? (sounds like a C or a D or perhaps a B . . . maybe an E) Do they all look like Alex Trebek or Vanna White?
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veggie doll Scholar Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: walking with a ghost Posts: 83	Originally Posted by ynot If there are spirits/souls that live on after people die that some living people can communicate with, why are there any unsolved murders and missing bodies? Because living people can't really communicate with dead people, they can only pretend to. I do wonder how a 'psychic' would answer this question though.
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22nd July 2006, 02:20 AM	#7
FireGarden Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Spannungsbogen -- without a visa Posts: 5,043	Quote: I do wonder how a 'psychic' would answer this question though. The dead tell us... We just don't hear or understand.
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22nd July 2006, 02:27 AM	#8
ynot Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,653	Originally Posted by CFLarsen Do they all look like Alex Trebek or Vanna White? Given that it's heaven, it's gotta be Vanna White
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22nd July 2006, 02:29 AM	#9
ynot Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,653	Originally Posted by veggie doll Because living people can't really communicate with dead people, they can only pretend to. I do wonder how a 'psychic' would answer this question though. I way hoping a psychic/medium would contribute (or at least a beleiver in them)
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22nd July 2006, 02:30 AM	#10
ynot Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,653	Originally Posted by FireGarden The dead tell us... We just don't hear or understand. Then how can they tell us?
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22nd July 2006, 02:46 AM	#11
FireGarden Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Spannungsbogen -- without a visa Posts: 5,043	Like the Pigasus awards.... They send. It's not their fault if we don't receive. Look, mate! Every police officer that ever solved a murder did so in his dreams. Where do dreams come from? Huh? Huh? Go on, tell me! QED
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22nd July 2006, 02:35 PM	#12
ynot Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,653	Originally Posted by FireGarden Like the Pigasus awards.... They send. It's not their fault if we don't receive. How can it be known it is sent if it is not received? Is there a third party in a limbo between life and death that can communicate with both that says a spirit is sending you a message but you won't receive it? Quote: Look, mate! Every police officer that ever solved a murder did so in his dreams. Where do dreams come from? Huh? Huh? Go on, tell me! QED And I thought they did it by fabricating evidence. Dreams come from the land of nod.
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Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	If it's possible to transmit any information, then it's possible to transmit Morse Code, and sooner or later somebody who knows it must have died and tried to talk to somebody else who does, and they would have established a clear channel of communications. "I'm hearing an M...an M...Ma...em, em anybody?" "I have a m-other!"
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22nd July 2006, 05:10 PM	#14
ynot Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,653	Originally Posted by Beerina If it's possible to transmit any information, then it's possible to transmit Morse Code, and sooner or later somebody who knows it must have died and tried to talk to somebody else who does, and they would have established a clear channel of communications. "I'm hearing an M...an M...Ma...em, em anybody?" "I have a m-other!" So that would be . . . “I am hearing a dash dash . . . A dash dash . . . dash dash, dot dash . . . em, em anybody?" “I have a dash dash, dash dash dash, dash, dot dot dot dot, dot, dot dash dot”
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23rd July 2006, 05:16 AM	#15
FireGarden Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Spannungsbogen -- without a visa Posts: 5,043	Originally Posted by ynot Dreams come from the land of nod. Where Cain was banished. Therefore where all murderers are banished. Which is why the "Jack the Ripper" case been solved recently. He sent a dream from the land of Nod. Are you still doubting me?
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23rd July 2006, 08:55 AM	#16
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	The dead are inveterate pranksters. With all of eternity to while away is it any wonder that they set the living up for some pratfalls now and then? It's only natural, sez me.