Lotta bigfoot hoaxing going on....

LTC8K6 · 28th July 2006, 09:56 AM

http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/atokabf/

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/horrorhoax/

Huntster · 28th July 2006, 11:11 AM

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Lotta bigfoot hoaxing going on....

I know how to fix that.

Put a .338 Magnum round through center of mass..............

Any figure running around in gloomy woods looking like the fellow on the right will eventually get just that............

Meffy · 28th July 2006, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Huntster

I know how to fix that.

Put a .338 Magnum round through center of mass..............

Any figure running around in gloomy woods looking like the fellow on the right will eventually get just that............

Joking about becoming a murderer on a whim. *shakes head* Stay away from air marshalls, 'kay, big man?

tube · 28th July 2006, 12:04 PM

It's those damn kids with that Internet thing.

Meffy · 28th July 2006, 12:04 PM

Meddling kids! *shakes pawfist*

Huntster · 28th July 2006, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Meffy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huntster :
I know how to fix that.

Put a .338 Magnum round through center of mass..............

Any figure running around in gloomy woods looking like the fellow on the right will eventually get just that............

Joking about becoming a murderer on a whim. *shakes head*

Who's joking?

And what does murder have to do with anything?

It has become repeatedly clear that the demands of science and skepticism require a sasquatch carcass for the resolution of the question to come to closure. It was the same for the discovery of the gorilla in the mid-1800's.

If I see what I believe to be a sasquatch in the woods, I'm not shooting with the intent of killing a human (which is the definition of "murder"). I'm shooting with the intent of scientific discovery.

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Stay away from air marshalls, 'kay, big man?

I do. Flying is a pain in the ass anymore, thanks to the likes of DB Cooper and Osama.

But even when I do fly, I'm no threat to law enforcement........

Meffy · 28th July 2006, 02:18 PM

=9_9= "Tell it to the judge."

AK-Dave · 28th July 2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Huntster

It has become repeatedly clear that the demands of science and skepticism require a sasquatch carcass for the resolution of the question to come to closure. It was the same for the discovery of the gorilla in the mid-1800's.

If I see what I believe to be a sasquatch in the woods, I'm not shooting with the intent of killing a human (which is the definition of "murder"). I'm shooting with the intent of scientific discovery.

You may wish to check your hunting regulations before shooting an animal that is not listed. In some places, it is not legal to take any animals not listed as having an open season, including escaped exotics and farm animals.

Huntster · 28th July 2006, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by AK-Dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huntster :
It has become repeatedly clear that the demands of science and skepticism require a sasquatch carcass for the resolution of the question to come to closure. It was the same for the discovery of the gorilla in the mid-1800's.

If I see what I believe to be a sasquatch in the woods, I'm not shooting with the intent of killing a human (which is the definition of "murder"). I'm shooting with the intent of scientific discovery.

You may wish to check your hunting regulations before shooting an animal that is not listed. In some places, it is not legal to take any animals not listed as having an open season, including escaped exotics and farm animals.

Particularly in Alaska (pg. 7):

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If the species is not listed, you may not hunt that species.

I'm on top of it.

Are you the Dave in Valdez? I'm in Palmer.

AK-Dave · 28th July 2006, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Huntster

Are you the Dave in Valdez? I'm in Palmer.

Eagle River. Never actually been all the way to Valdez (Chitna was the closest I've been). It's on my list of things to do after I get a wide angle lens. Kind of hard to do scenery when your widest lens is 70mm.

Nice to see some valley trash on the forum (or was that just Wasilla?)!

Huntster · 28th July 2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by AK-Dave

...Nice to see some valley trash on the forum (or was that just Wasilla?)!

Oh, no. Palmer qualifies, too (even though Wasilla qualifies better).

We have another Evil River guy here, too.

Arkan_Wolfshade · 29th July 2006, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by Huntster

Who's joking?

And what does murder have to do with anything?

It has become repeatedly clear that the demands of science and skepticism require a sasquatch carcass for the resolution of the question to come to closure. It was the same for the discovery of the gorilla in the mid-1800's.

If I see what I believe to be a sasquatch in the woods, I'm not shooting with the intent of killing a human (which is the definition of "murder"). I'm shooting with the intent of scientific discovery.

I do. Flying is a pain in the ass anymore, thanks to the likes of DB Cooper and Osama.

But even when I do fly, I'm no threat to law enforcement........

I can see where Hunster is coming from here. If I were out in the woods after elk, or caribou, or whatever and I had the opportunity to drop a sasquatch and provide definitive evidence I probably would (and be willing to deal with the legal consequences). Consider how many species were relegated to myth status prior to their corpses being brought back from Africa to England.

That said, anybody that runs around in the woods dressed up as _any_ kind of animal is asking to be given a severe case of ventilation poisoning. There are responsible hunters that identify their targets before firing, but there are also irresponsible hunters that shoot at any noise if they don't see hunter orange in that direction.

LeCynthia · 29th July 2006, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/atokabf/

Oh, for pete's sake, this made CNN this morning. Didn't say anything about it being a fake but at least the news reader had a smirk on her face that clearly indicated she thought it was funny.

William Parcher · Yesterday, 08:20 PM

Hi everyone. Yes, there is a lotta Bigfoot hoaxing still going on.

And here is a new website library about Bigfoot put together by Chris Murphy. There you will see some interesting stuff.

Now check out the Bossburg Cripplefoot thing. Look at the picture that Murphy says shows the 1st Generation plaster casts from Cripplefoot.

The caption reads "Border Patrolman, John Susemiehl, is holding the first set of casts made from the unusual prints."

Interestingly, the casts that are normally shown as Cripplefoot are different than these. They have a much less severe angle and are maybe less comical looking than what we see here.

How could anybody think that that is real and not a hoax?

LTC8K6 · Yesterday, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Hi everyone. Yes, there is a lotta Bigfoot hoaxing still going on.

And here is a new website library about Bigfoot put together by Chris Murphy. There you will see some interesting stuff.

Now check out the Bossburg Cripplefoot thing. Look at the picture that Murphy says shows the 1st Generation plaster casts from Cripplefoot.

The caption reads "Border Patrolman, John Susemiehl, is holding the first set of casts made from the unusual prints."

Interestingly, the casts that are normally shown as Cripplefoot are different than these. They have a much less severe angle and are maybe less comical looking than what we see here.

How could anybody think that that is real and not a hoax?

http://forums.randi.org/attachment.p...1&d=1369278378

It's laughably bad.

The foundation of bigfoot anatomy is based on those.

LTC8K6 · Yesterday, 09:13 PM

These are comedic as well.

http://www.sasquatchcanada.com/uploa...86121_orig.jpg

Most of the print/cast/track pics make you wonder how anyone ever took these fools seriously...

xblade · Today, 02:27 AM

Yeah, but if just one set of tracks wasn't hoaxed, then bigfoot is real.

/sarc

GT/CS · Today, 07:25 AM

And we've been told by numerous BFFers that hoaxers aren't smart enough to make deformed feet.

William Parcher · Today, 07:54 AM

If Murphy's captions are correct then it looks like Krantz may have used later generations of casts for his analysis. The difference is that the one the border patrol guy is holding is a far more severe and nonsense appearance.

River · Today, 07:59 AM

The funny part is, if a foot really was messed up to that extent from injury, do you think it would be leaving an impression like that from a walking bigfoot? Hilarious. The weight distribution and toe definition, uhm.... Krantz was a scientist, and Meldrum, et all. Why can't they see this? They are supposed to have degrees that qualify them to make these type mental leaps.

The Shrike · Today, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

Most of the print/cast/track pics make you wonder how anyone ever took these fools seriously...

Well if you look closely you can see that these casts came out of a box with graph paper on the bottom, so that makes them all sciencey and stuff. Fact.

LTC8K6 · Today, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

If Murphy's captions are correct then it looks like Krantz may have used later generations of casts for his analysis. The difference is that the one the border patrol guy is holding is a far more severe and nonsense appearance.

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/bossburg.htm

Yes, the more severe one seems to better match the famous track in the snow.

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ima...ssburgsnow.jpg

Not sure about the track Boyington is holding in the middle...?

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ima...n%20marx70.jpg

LTC8K6 · Today, 07:19 PM

You know though, I seem to remember another set of crippled bigfoot tracks that were supposed to indicate that the cripple had migrated or something. They were quite similar but supposedly found elsewhere.

LTC8K6 · Today, 07:23 PM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tMEZxmEQEw...600/rene+d.png

Another version? Plaster over the curved area?

http://www.isu.edu/~meldd/jpg/032.jpg

LTC8K6 · Today, 07:26 PM

That curved bit has to be a shoe heel...

28th July 2006, 09:56 AM	#1
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,673	Lotta bigfoot hoaxing going on.... http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/atokabf/ http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/horrorhoax/
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28th July 2006, 02:29 PM	#8
AK-Dave Muse Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alaska Posts: 576	Originally Posted by Huntster It has become repeatedly clear that the demands of science and skepticism require a sasquatch carcass for the resolution of the question to come to closure. It was the same for the discovery of the gorilla in the mid-1800's. If I see what I believe to be a sasquatch in the woods, I'm not shooting with the intent of killing a human (which is the definition of "murder"). I'm shooting with the intent of scientific discovery. You may wish to check your hunting regulations before shooting an animal that is not listed. In some places, it is not legal to take any animals not listed as having an open season, including escaped exotics and farm animals.
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28th July 2006, 04:31 PM	#10
AK-Dave Muse Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alaska Posts: 576	Originally Posted by Huntster Are you the Dave in Valdez? I'm in Palmer. Eagle River. Never actually been all the way to Valdez (Chitna was the closest I've been). It's on my list of things to do after I get a wide angle lens. Kind of hard to do scenery when your widest lens is 70mm. Nice to see some valley trash on the forum (or was that just Wasilla?)!
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29th July 2006, 07:26 AM	#12
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	Originally Posted by Huntster Who's joking? And what does murder have to do with anything? It has become repeatedly clear that the demands of science and skepticism require a sasquatch carcass for the resolution of the question to come to closure. It was the same for the discovery of the gorilla in the mid-1800's. If I see what I believe to be a sasquatch in the woods, I'm not shooting with the intent of killing a human (which is the definition of "murder"). I'm shooting with the intent of scientific discovery. I do. Flying is a pain in the ass anymore, thanks to the likes of DB Cooper and Osama. But even when I do fly, I'm no threat to law enforcement........ I can see where Hunster is coming from here. If I were out in the woods after elk, or caribou, or whatever and I had the opportunity to drop a sasquatch and provide definitive evidence I probably would (and be willing to deal with the legal consequences). Consider how many species were relegated to myth status prior to their corpses being brought back from Africa to England. That said, anybody that runs around in the woods dressed up as _any_ kind of animal is asking to be given a severe case of ventilation poisoning. There are responsible hunters that identify their targets before firing, but there are also irresponsible hunters that shoot at any noise if they don't see hunter orange in that direction.
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LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,673	Originally Posted by William Parcher Hi everyone. Yes, there is a lotta Bigfoot hoaxing still going on. And here is a new website library about Bigfoot put together by Chris Murphy. There you will see some interesting stuff. Now check out the Bossburg Cripplefoot thing. Look at the picture that Murphy says shows the 1st Generation plaster casts from Cripplefoot. The caption reads "Border Patrolman, John Susemiehl, is holding the first set of casts made from the unusual prints." Interestingly, the casts that are normally shown as Cripplefoot are different than these. They have a much less severe angle and are maybe less comical looking than what we see here. How could anybody think that that is real and not a hoax? http://forums.randi.org/attachment.p...1&d=1369278378 It's laughably bad. The foundation of bigfoot anatomy is based on those.
	__________________ What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break?

28th July 2006, 11:56 AM	#3
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	Originally Posted by Huntster I know how to fix that. Put a .338 Magnum round through center of mass.............. Any figure running around in gloomy woods looking like the fellow on the right will eventually get just that............ Joking about becoming a murderer on a whim. shakes head Stay away from air marshalls, 'kay, big man?

28th July 2006, 12:04 PM	#4
tube Muse Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 898	It's those damn kids with that Internet thing.

28th July 2006, 01:25 PM	#6
Huntster Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alaska Posts: 6,798	Originally Posted by Meffy Quote: Originally Posted by Huntster : I know how to fix that. Put a .338 Magnum round through center of mass.............. Any figure running around in gloomy woods looking like the fellow on the right will eventually get just that............ Joking about becoming a murderer on a whim. shakes head Who's joking? And what does murder have to do with anything? It has become repeatedly clear that the demands of science and skepticism require a sasquatch carcass for the resolution of the question to come to closure. It was the same for the discovery of the gorilla in the mid-1800's. If I see what I believe to be a sasquatch in the woods, I'm not shooting with the intent of killing a human (which is the definition of "murder"). I'm shooting with the intent of scientific discovery. Quote: Stay away from air marshalls, 'kay, big man? I do. Flying is a pain in the ass anymore, thanks to the likes of DB Cooper and Osama. But even when I do fly, I'm no threat to law enforcement........

28th July 2006, 02:18 PM	#7
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	=9_9= "Tell it to the judge."

28th July 2006, 02:35 PM	#9
Huntster Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alaska Posts: 6,798	Originally Posted by AK-Dave Quote: Originally Posted by Huntster : It has become repeatedly clear that the demands of science and skepticism require a sasquatch carcass for the resolution of the question to come to closure. It was the same for the discovery of the gorilla in the mid-1800's. If I see what I believe to be a sasquatch in the woods, I'm not shooting with the intent of killing a human (which is the definition of "murder"). I'm shooting with the intent of scientific discovery. You may wish to check your hunting regulations before shooting an animal that is not listed. In some places, it is not legal to take any animals not listed as having an open season, including escaped exotics and farm animals. Particularly in Alaska (pg. 7): Quote: If the species is not listed, you may not hunt that species. I'm on top of it. Are you the Dave in Valdez? I'm in Palmer.

28th July 2006, 04:36 PM	#11
Huntster Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alaska Posts: 6,798	Originally Posted by AK-Dave ...Nice to see some valley trash on the forum (or was that just Wasilla?)! Oh, no. Palmer qualifies, too (even though Wasilla qualifies better). We have another Evil River guy here, too.

29th July 2006, 06:07 PM	#13
LeCynthia Thinker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mason City, IA Posts: 143	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/atokabf/ Oh, for pete's sake, this made CNN this morning. Didn't say anything about it being a fake but at least the news reader had a smirk on her face that clearly indicated she thought it was funny.

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LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,673	These are comedic as well. http://www.sasquatchcanada.com/uploa...86121_orig.jpg Most of the print/cast/track pics make you wonder how anyone ever took these fools seriously...
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Today, 02:27 AM	#17
xblade Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 461	Yeah, but if just one set of tracks wasn't hoaxed, then bigfoot is real. /sarc

Today, 07:25 AM	#18
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,592	And we've been told by numerous BFFers that hoaxers aren't smart enough to make deformed feet.
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River Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,662	The funny part is, if a foot really was messed up to that extent from injury, do you think it would be leaving an impression like that from a walking bigfoot? Hilarious. The weight distribution and toe definition, uhm.... Krantz was a scientist, and Meldrum, et all. Why can't they see this? They are supposed to have degrees that qualify them to make these type mental leaps.
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Today, 01:41 PM	#21
The Shrike Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,812	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 Most of the print/cast/track pics make you wonder how anyone ever took these fools seriously... Well if you look closely you can see that these casts came out of a box with graph paper on the bottom, so that makes them all sciencey and stuff. Fact.

Today, 07:11 PM	#22
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,673	Originally Posted by William Parcher If Murphy's captions are correct then it looks like Krantz may have used later generations of casts for his analysis. The difference is that the one the border patrol guy is holding is a far more severe and nonsense appearance. http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/bossburg.htm Yes, the more severe one seems to better match the famous track in the snow. http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ima...ssburgsnow.jpg Not sure about the track Boyington is holding in the middle...? http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ima...n%20marx70.jpg
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Today, 07:19 PM	#23
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,673	You know though, I seem to remember another set of crippled bigfoot tracks that were supposed to indicate that the cripple had migrated or something. They were quite similar but supposedly found elsewhere.
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Today, 07:23 PM	#24
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,673	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tMEZxmEQEw...600/rene+d.png Another version? Plaster over the curved area? http://www.isu.edu/~meldd/jpg/032.jpg
	__________________ What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break?

Today, 07:26 PM	#25
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,673	That curved bit has to be a shoe heel...
	__________________ What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break?