Loose Waves(Tsunami conspiracy)

Azrael 5 · 30th July 2006, 11:08 AM

Whilst browsing Joe Vialls(anyone know of him?)after reading a lunatic C.T of the Soham murders I found a stack of others including this
http://www.vialls.net/subliminalsuggestion/tsunami.html

Cylinder · 30th July 2006, 11:48 AM

Quote:

...there are many provable irregularities in the official American tsunami story that simply have to be recorded now, or forever be lost in the sands of time.

I think I'm getting a headache. Why is it that every nut that argues a NWO grab for global hegemony uses as evidence US lack of omnipotence in some facet. Classic begging the question.

bob_kark · 30th July 2006, 11:57 AM

I didn't realize it was an American story...

Cylinder · 30th July 2006, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by bob_kark

I didn't realize it was an American story...

You need to wake up to The Truth. America uses their control of everything in order to control everything. For $25 USD I have a DVD that will explain it all.

SBrown · 30th July 2006, 12:08 PM

Yeah but have you seen this?

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Jou...olition_20.pdf

R.Mackey · 30th July 2006, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by SBrown

Yeah but have you seen this?

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Jou...olition_20.pdf

No, at least I haven't -- although I've seen nearly every argument contained in it -- but I fail to see what this has to do with the thread.

However, we'd be more than happy to critique this for you. How about you start your own thread and provide some introduction, as in parts of the paper you find worth discussing? Thanks.

jhunter1163 · 30th July 2006, 12:33 PM

http://www.takingaim.info/ (go to 050104)

I heard something similar from these idiots (Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone). I listen to their program faithfully on WBAI in NYC every Tuesday afternoon at 5. It's the best laugh I have all week. Their ignorance is seemingly boundless...

R.Mackey · 30th July 2006, 12:37 PM

Never mind -- SBrown just committed suicide-by-mod: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...73#post1805573

I imagine she'll go home to complain about how we're all a bunch of censoring fascists, despite her plain admission of intent:

Originally Posted by jenabell (who is SBrown) @ Loose Change

You post on JREF right?

Watch what happens later when I start spamming links.......no imagine if it was a dozen SBrowns doing the same thing.....

(taken from http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...pic=9144&st=90)

sorry. But if anyone does want to discuss this paper, honestly, start a thread. No censorship here. I'm out.

Azrael 5 · 30th July 2006, 01:07 PM

A CT thread on the Tsunami hijacked by a Loose change CT'er! Whoah!!

gumboot · 30th July 2006, 07:37 PM

Has anyone read the link? I don't know where to start...

Bukkaked by stupid.

-Andrew

Cylinder · 30th July 2006, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Has anyone read the link? I don't know where to start...

The guys makes some points - I mean why would anyone send an amphibious task force to an island nation whose infrastructure has been destroyed by a disaster and is in desperate need of food, water, shelter, com gear and first responders with access to remote areas accessible only by water?

It just does not make sense!

gumboot · 30th July 2006, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cylinder

The guys makes some points - I mean why would anyone send an amphibious task force to an island nation whose infrastructure has been destroyed by a disaster and is in desperate need of food, water, shelter, com gear and first responders with access to remote areas accessible only by water?

I remember some thing somewhere about the US Navy. Whenever a disaster or military scenario happens the first thing the administration always ask is "where is the nearest carrier?"

They are much more than just war machines. They are the first line of international response. The only reason it is always the US is because the US are the only country with carriers roaming the globe.

-Andrew

Azrael 5 · 31st July 2006, 10:23 AM

His CT theory on the Soham murders is surreal! Planted evidence ,a peadophile ring to which the Government turn a blind eye,implanting memories in Rampton hospital!!

Makes your head spin.

Overman · 31st July 2006, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

Whilst browsing Joe Vialls(anyone know of him?)after reading a lunatic C.T of the Soham murders I found a stack of others including this
http://www.vialls.net/subliminalsuggestion/tsunami.html

At least he is asking for donations here....most of them are just crazy...

Azrael 5 · 31st July 2006, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Overman

At least he is asking for donations here....most of them are just crazy...

Oh he's crazy alright.

gtc · 31st July 2006, 04:09 PM

Isn't he also dead?

ktesibios · 31st July 2006, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by gtc

Isn't he also dead?

Yes, since 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vialls

Other people's descriptions can't properly convey just what a barking-mad, frothing hatefreak he was. For that, you need to spend a little time browsing his Web site- the articles claiming that the USA and Australia would be conquered by an invasion of 260,000 Israelis give the flavor pretty well.

It won't be a pleasant experience, but you can keep telling yourself that it builds character.

Gravy · 31st July 2006, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Hollywood

Loose change, interesting, never seen it though

Please go away, SBrown/Jennabell.

burrahobbit · 2nd August 2006, 05:59 AM

AFAIK I dont think there was any plan to post the Indian Sukhois in Car Nicobar. These are supposed to be frontline fighters to cover the Indo Pak and Indo China borders. Placing them as far away as possible from those borders makes a lot of sense

Oldpossum · 2nd August 2006, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by R.Mackey

Never mind -- SBrown just committed suicide-by-mod: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...73#post1805573

I imagine she'll go home to complain about how we're all a bunch of censoring fascists, despite her plain admission of intent:

I can't see the topic this link goes to, instead I get a notice that says I'm banned, or am missing authority to view said topic?

richardm · 3rd August 2006, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Oldpossum

I can't see the topic this link goes to, instead I get a notice that says I'm banned, or am missing authority to view said topic?

It's a one message locked (effectively) thread so you're quite limited in what you can do - the hosting forum is here.

richardm · 3rd August 2006, 03:27 AM

Oo hello, where did this forum come from then?

The_Fire · 3rd August 2006, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by richardm

Oo hello, where did this forum come from then?

The Matrix hiccuped.....

30th July 2006, 11:08 AM	#1
Azrael 5 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 5,029	Loose Waves(Tsunami conspiracy) Whilst browsing Joe Vialls(anyone know of him?)after reading a lunatic C.T of the Soham murders I found a stack of others including this http://www.vialls.net/subliminalsuggestion/tsunami.html
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30th July 2006, 11:48 AM	#2
Cylinder Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,859	Quote: ...there are many provable irregularities in the official American tsunami story that simply have to be recorded now, or forever be lost in the sands of time. I think I'm getting a headache. Why is it that every nut that argues a NWO grab for global hegemony uses as evidence US lack of omnipotence in some facet. Classic begging the question.
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30th July 2006, 11:57 AM	#3
bob_kark Person of Hench Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Globalist H.Q., 25th floor, 5th room on the right. Posts: 4,109	I didn't realize it was an American story...
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30th July 2006, 12:05 PM	#4
Cylinder Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,859	Originally Posted by bob_kark I didn't realize it was an American story... You need to wake up to The Truth. America uses their control of everything in order to control everything. For $25 USD I have a DVD that will explain it all.
	__________________ If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed ; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves. - Winston Churchill, The Gathering Storm

30th July 2006, 12:08 PM	#5
SBrown Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 314	Yeah but have you seen this? http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Jou...olition_20.pdf
SBrown Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 314

30th July 2006, 12:18 PM	#6
R.Mackey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The armpit of L.A. Posts: 7,857	Originally Posted by SBrown Yeah but have you seen this? http://worldtradecentertruth.com/Jou...olition_20.pdf No, at least I haven't -- although I've seen nearly every argument contained in it -- but I fail to see what this has to do with the thread. However, we'd be more than happy to critique this for you. How about you start your own thread and provide some introduction, as in parts of the paper you find worth discussing? Thanks.

30th July 2006, 12:33 PM	#7
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,576	http://www.takingaim.info/ (go to 050104) I heard something similar from these idiots (Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone). I listen to their program faithfully on WBAI in NYC every Tuesday afternoon at 5. It's the best laugh I have all week. Their ignorance is seemingly boundless...

30th July 2006, 12:37 PM	#8
R.Mackey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The armpit of L.A. Posts: 7,857	Never mind -- SBrown just committed suicide-by-mod: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...73#post1805573 I imagine she'll go home to complain about how we're all a bunch of censoring fascists, despite her plain admission of intent: Originally Posted by jenabell (who is SBrown) @ Loose Change You post on JREF right? Watch what happens later when I start spamming links.......no imagine if it was a dozen SBrowns doing the same thing..... (taken from http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...pic=9144&st=90) sorry. But if anyone does want to discuss this paper, honestly, start a thread. No censorship here. I'm out.

30th July 2006, 01:07 PM	#9
Azrael 5 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 5,029	A CT thread on the Tsunami hijacked by a Loose change CT'er! Whoah!!
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30th July 2006, 07:37 PM	#10
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,124	Has anyone read the link? I don't know where to start... Bukkaked by stupid. -Andrew
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30th July 2006, 07:43 PM	#11
Cylinder Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,859	Originally Posted by gumboot Has anyone read the link? I don't know where to start... The guys makes some points - I mean why would anyone send an amphibious task force to an island nation whose infrastructure has been destroyed by a disaster and is in desperate need of food, water, shelter, com gear and first responders with access to remote areas accessible only by water? It just does not make sense!
	__________________ If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed ; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves. - Winston Churchill, The Gathering Storm Last edited by Cylinder; 30th July 2006 at 07:48 PM.

30th July 2006, 10:01 PM	#12
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,124	Originally Posted by Cylinder The guys makes some points - I mean why would anyone send an amphibious task force to an island nation whose infrastructure has been destroyed by a disaster and is in desperate need of food, water, shelter, com gear and first responders with access to remote areas accessible only by water? I remember some thing somewhere about the US Navy. Whenever a disaster or military scenario happens the first thing the administration always ask is "where is the nearest carrier?" They are much more than just war machines. They are the first line of international response. The only reason it is always the US is because the US are the only country with carriers roaming the globe. -Andrew
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31st July 2006, 10:23 AM	#13
Azrael 5 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 5,029	His CT theory on the Soham murders is surreal! Planted evidence ,a peadophile ring to which the Government turn a blind eye,implanting memories in Rampton hospital!! Makes your head spin.
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31st July 2006, 12:37 PM	#14
Overman Master Poster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 2,630	Originally Posted by Azrael 5 Whilst browsing Joe Vialls(anyone know of him?)after reading a lunatic C.T of the Soham murders I found a stack of others including this http://www.vialls.net/subliminalsuggestion/tsunami.html At least he is asking for donations here....most of them are just crazy...
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31st July 2006, 01:46 PM	#15
Azrael 5 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 5,029	Originally Posted by Overman At least he is asking for donations here....most of them are just crazy... Oh he's crazy alright.
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31st July 2006, 04:09 PM	#16
gtc Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the downunderverse Posts: 7,114	Isn't he also dead?

31st July 2006, 08:23 PM	#17
ktesibios Worthless Aging Hippie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,493	Originally Posted by gtc Isn't he also dead? Yes, since 2005. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vialls Other people's descriptions can't properly convey just what a barking-mad, frothing hatefreak he was. For that, you need to spend a little time browsing his Web site- the articles claiming that the USA and Australia would be conquered by an invasion of 260,000 Israelis give the flavor pretty well. It won't be a pleasant experience, but you can keep telling yourself that it builds character.
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31st July 2006, 08:29 PM	#18
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by Hollywood Loose change, interesting, never seen it though Please go away, SBrown/Jennabell.
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2nd August 2006, 05:59 AM	#19
burrahobbit Thinker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: India Posts: 192	AFAIK I dont think there was any plan to post the Indian Sukhois in Car Nicobar. These are supposed to be frontline fighters to cover the Indo Pak and Indo China borders. Placing them as far away as possible from those borders makes a lot of sense
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2nd August 2006, 09:25 PM	#20
Oldpossum Scholar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Adelaide, SA Posts: 78	Originally Posted by R.Mackey Never mind -- SBrown just committed suicide-by-mod: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...73#post1805573 I imagine she'll go home to complain about how we're all a bunch of censoring fascists, despite her plain admission of intent: I can't see the topic this link goes to, instead I get a notice that says I'm banned, or am missing authority to view said topic?

3rd August 2006, 02:04 AM	#21
richardm Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,270	Originally Posted by Oldpossum I can't see the topic this link goes to, instead I get a notice that says I'm banned, or am missing authority to view said topic? It's a one message locked (effectively) thread so you're quite limited in what you can do - the hosting forum is here.
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3rd August 2006, 03:27 AM	#22
richardm Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,270	Oo hello, where did this forum come from then?
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3rd August 2006, 03:46 AM	#23
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