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Lackey
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Loose Change - Part IV
Will this never end?
Part I can be found here:http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53102 Part II can be found here:http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=57424 Part III can be found here:http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=58618 |
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If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008
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Surely there've been bigger threads than this series... right?
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Amy: You should try homeopathic medicine, Bender. Try some zinc. Bender: I am forty percent zinc. Amy: Then take some echinacea, or St. John's Wort. Professor: Or a big fat placebo. It's all the same crap. |
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First post. Universalseed.org!!! LOL
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Amy: You should try homeopathic medicine, Bender. Try some zinc. Bender: I am forty percent zinc. Amy: Then take some echinacea, or St. John's Wort. Professor: Or a big fat placebo. It's all the same crap. |
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NWO Master Conspirator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Just so it's in this thread, MarkyX's work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uFNBpjZCI4 - Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZnHpkyCp4 - Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8srm5Lk4hM - Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-HmcVtiX-s - Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2MZwxJRYI - Part 5 |
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Don't think so. I reckon these threads even outdo the "Carlos Swett Affair" (which was also related to 9/11 of course).
Hmm, I wonder where Carlos/latinjral is now? What if he were to post his "paranormal hat" video over at the Loose Change forum? Might be worth a laugh ... |
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"We must favour verifiable evidence over private feeling. Otherwise we leave ourselves vulnerable to those who would obscure the truth." Richard Dawkins - The Enemies of Reason |
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Fiend God
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Originally Posted by abbyas
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- "To kill and be king, is that all?" - "Perhaps not even that." -- Uther and Merlin, Excalibur Current avatar from Jaestudio.com |
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Downsitting Citizen
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I was going to suggest that the old thread be ended and an new, generic 9/11 thread begun, but I guess that'll have to wait for another 5,000 posts.
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"Please, keep your chops cool and don’t overblow.” –Freddie Hubbard What's the Harm?........Stop Sylvia Browne........My 9/11 links |
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Lackey
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Good suggestion, try floating the idea in Community or Forum Management and see what the feedback is.
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If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008
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The first three threads contain 11,405 posts.
So trailing behind three word story, and barely half of Top Ten List Challenge. Pretty impressive for a "3%" thread, though! |
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"We must favour verifiable evidence over private feeling. Otherwise we leave ourselves vulnerable to those who would obscure the truth." Richard Dawkins - The Enemies of Reason |
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How do you determine when a new thread should be started? Is there a limit on each size?
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![]() O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tęde keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi. "My see-saw analogy renders any need for "calculations" moot." - Lyte Trip |
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The thread that wil not die is also years old. How old it this trail? Six months?
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Lackey
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If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008
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![]() O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tęde keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi. "My see-saw analogy renders any need for "calculations" moot." - Lyte Trip |
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If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008
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![]() O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tęde keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi. "My see-saw analogy renders any need for "calculations" moot." - Lyte Trip |
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Something to annoy Chuck Sheen with.
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The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy
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Yep. I wonder how people will defend Alex Jones outright lying.
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Universal Seed?
Dang! I thought it was Universal Screed! the Drive-in of Delusion! |
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Loose Change, own all the versions! |
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I've been IP banned, suspended, locked out, whatever over at LC, but I can ready the archives of the Loosers Speak thread. I've seen a lot of comments about the laughing at box-cutters and "firemen are stupid", etc...
Could someone bring up Dylan's insinuation that Bernard Brown sent his son to his death and then admitted to never having talked to Mr. Brown to confirm? I think that's one of the most disgusting and contemptable displays to date. |
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This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes. 102 Minutes: The Untold Story of the Fight to Survive Inside the Twin Towers. A Must Read. |
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The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy
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Speaking of boxcutters,
There was a link at the end of the last thread to a picture of the boxcutters used. THey aren't the little bitty "1/4" triangle of blade" things or the "razor-blade holder" things. They're the extendible blade utility knives, as I suspected earlier, razor sharp and with a blade that can extend to about 4 or 5 inches (link is at this post). |
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"The overarching lesson that has emerged from scientific inquiry over the last century is that human experience is often a misleading guide to the true nature of reality."--Brain Greene, The Fabric of the Cosmos |
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Well, I didn't get banned, but have recieved a Warning for saying this about the LC Forum:
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Y'all got on this boat for different reasons, but y'all come to the same place. So now I'm asking more of you than I have before. Maybe all. Sure as I know anything, I know this - they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten? They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. So no more runnin'. I aim to misbehave. Mal, Captain of the Serenity |
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The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy
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And the jackasses are commenting on my youtube.
"markyX you need to come up with more evidence proving the government story. it doesn't do anything but show more "info" from other sources. sorry man keep trying" "I don't understand what the whole thing about Mark being Gay had to do with 9/11 or debunking anything.." Little do they realize that the video wasn't meant to debunk all myths. |
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"The overarching lesson that has emerged from scientific inquiry over the last century is that human experience is often a misleading guide to the true nature of reality."--Brain Greene, The Fabric of the Cosmos |
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MarkyX
I watched all of your Video. Very impressive. It is gut wrenching at times, but I think if people see this after watching LC, tehy may be less taken back by his rap video, sound byte approach to the subject. (Hats off) |
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I too was warned (currently at 100%) for the following "foul and offensive" stetments:
"Lesbians are the best flossers" and "Jane, you ignorant slut." |
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By convention there is color, By convention sweetness, By convention bitterness, But in reality there are atoms and space. --Democritus (c. 400 BCE) |
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I've learned not to underestimate box cutters.
![]() But seriously, I try not to underestimate anything sharp, especially in the hands of someone trained for violence. I remember someone posting a link to a news story about boxcutters being used to deadly effect in a crime. Anyone know it off hand? |
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Stop Sylvia Browne Warning: Beware of contaminated water supplies! Suspected source of contamination: Sarah-I A non-Rockstar Rambler and dissector of Doggerel |
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good lord, its amazing how i will occassionally pop into these threads to see what is being discussed and things that seem so easily dismissed are still debated.
so the old boxcutter debate still has fuel. and to make the same argument i am sure you have all seen, before 9/11 people assumed it was better to obey terrorists who claimed they would blow up the plane regardless of what they were armed with, it just wasnt worth it. the fact that these terrorists managed to slit a few throats was probably even more than they needed to do. and once they realized they were gonna die anyway, flight 93 rebelled. seems like this all makes sense (waiting for CTist to say it makes too much sense) . there is no history of hijacking that would lead me to believe peope wouldve resisted the hijackers differently than they did. this is why i only pop in occassionally- there are almost never any new insights. just retreading the same old crap. |
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MarkyX's video has a picture of a boxcutter that I assume was found in the wreckage? It used blades like these:
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...ceffdfgidgim.0 These are the single bladed type that you can flip the blade around for two uses. The knives were the only threat the hijackers had, however they apparently told the passengers they had a bomb on board too. The CT'ers are all ready to put their lives on the line against a boxcutter, but would they still do it if they believed there was a bomb on board too? Obviously the passengers of the last plane knew they would be dead either way so they did do it, but the first planes didn't know. |
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That is just a normal boxcutter.
I merely show it after the article to show that "Yeah, that little knife can cause problems" |
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ah, just saw the knife from the evidence in the trial. Yeah, those are the multi-blade types. I imagine they had different types to get on board. Or the one MarkyX had pictures of came from within the WTC or Pentagon and not the plane.
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