you Guys forgot something

JollyRoger · 3rd August 2006, 10:35 AM

no conspiracy forum is complete without chem-trails threads

TobiasTheViking · 3rd August 2006, 12:55 PM

well, thanks for starting one.

I'll be the first to disent.

Chem-trails is bunk.

Matthew Best · 3rd August 2006, 01:05 PM

What is a chem-trail?

Hutch · 3rd August 2006, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

What is a chem-trail?

Well, Matt, if you look up into the clear blue sky on a lazy fall day, you may see a jet crossing the sky, with the white contrail stretching out and gradually dissipating into the surrounding blueness. If you live near one of the major routes, you can see three or four jets at a time, sometimes with their contrails crossing. And which of us hasn't watched such a sight sometime in our life?

Well, to the chemtrail CT, it is more than just a idle moment; it is proof positive that the US Government/United Nations/Illuminati are spreading Chemicals in the air we breathe to control and modify our behavior so that we all become willing drones of the "Powers behind the Scene".

Exactly what these chemicals are and how they manage to influence us is not exactly the CT'ers strongpoints, mind you; but they occasionally do produce some pretty pictures...

Here are a couple of good places to start:

http://www.rense.com/general2/chemss.htm

http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/ch...ails_index.htm

There is also a couple of threads over at the Bad Astronomy (BAUT) Forum (you'll have to go search for them) about chemtrails from some believers.

Have fun.

apathoid · 3rd August 2006, 02:03 PM

Finally, a conspiracy that I'm involved in! Woot!!

Seriously, talk about big conspiracies. Every pilot, mechanic and aerospace manufacturer in the entire world is keeping quiet about this (~10 million people) and has been for the last 40 years.

defaultdotxbe · 3rd August 2006, 02:16 PM

this is your standard GT (generic theory)

well, theres these chemicals in the planes exhaust, im not sure what they are or what they do, but i can tell you the govt is definately behind it

Meffy · 3rd August 2006, 02:29 PM

If I wanted to get chemicals into people, I couldn't think of a better way than to scatter them in the upper atmosphere.

Oh, wait -- yes, I could. Scatter them down here where the people live.

Hutch · 3rd August 2006, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Meffy

Oh, wait -- yes, I could. Scatter them down here where the people live.

...and since you are an expert in scattering chemicals...

FramerDave · 3rd August 2006, 03:12 PM

Is anyone else tired as heck of checking in to JREF only to find the same old 9/11 CT drivel?

I'll be very glad to finally see people get tired of it and move on to something else.

Edit: Oh, I didn't notice they now have their own special little place here. Yay! Now I don't have to wade through the offal looking for something more interesting.

Matthew Best · 3rd August 2006, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Hutch

it is proof positive that the US Government/United Nations/Illuminati are spreading Chemicals in the air we breathe to control and modify our behavior

You have got to be kidding me!

Meffy · 3rd August 2006, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Hutch

...and since you are an expert in scattering chemicals...

Well -- not so much scattering as directing, but thank you for the thought. =^_^=

defaultdotxbe · 3rd August 2006, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

You have got to be kidding me!

i know, its almost as good as alex jones's lithium baby batteries

brodski · 3rd August 2006, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by FramerDave

Is anyone else tired as heck of checking in to JREF only to find the same old 9/11 CT drivel?

I've seen this comment a couple of times now, what is so offensive to people about discussing ct's?Why does this topic get criticized in the same way that,say, the endless Kumar/ MAS h'pathy threads didn't get?
This is a genuine question and not meant to be a criticism of you FramerDave.

FramerDave · 3rd August 2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by brodski

I've seen this comment a couple of times now, what is so offensive to people about discussing ct's?Why does this topic get criticized in the same way that,say, the endless Kumar/ MAS h'pathy threads didn't get?
This is a genuine question and not meant to be a criticism of you FramerDave.

It's not necessarily offensive, just repetitive and tedious. Boring, reading the same things over and over again. The same applies to the MAS threads too. Surely there are other things to discuss?

brodski · 3rd August 2006, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by FramerDave

It's not necessarily offensive, just repetitive and tedious. Boring, reading the same things over and over again. The same applies to the MAS threads too. Surely there are other things to discuss?

Fair enough, we all get differing things from this forum.

Yeah_Right · 3rd August 2006, 06:04 PM

Chem trails eh? I recall hearing one obviously disturbed woman call into Art Bell's show, Coast to Coast AM. And she claimed to have witnessed a aircraft making a black contrail across the sky. She said it looked like it was making an opening in the sky. I am not sure that she believed it was doing exactly that, but she said that she went home and shook in fear for a while. I am not sure what to make of that story, unless she thought that the plane was making a tear in the time/space fabric. Perhaps the government does that to let the aliens through?

defaultdotxbe · 3rd August 2006, 06:21 PM

wow, this has got to take the cake for nuttiness

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

chemtrails, sylphs, orgone generators...oh my!

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/sylp...s06jun04.shtml

i foudn this particularly amusing:

Quote:

Sylphs are transmuting air into water. Neon gas conversion to water is simple, as only two protons need to be drawn off the nucleus and chemically recombined with the remaining oxygen. The sylphs appear to be able to pull off neutrons, contain them with their magnetic fields, and use the hydrogen atom which is spontaneously generated a split second later when the neutron divides into a proton, electron and subquently emits a neutrino.

apparently the solution to chemtrails is alchemy

Oldpossum · 3rd August 2006, 07:29 PM

Why yes, Jet aircraft do emit chemicals that affect human behaviour, I would have thought it was obvious....

The nasty chemicals are Water and Carbon Dioxide, with a dash of Carbon monoxide, and Nitrous oxides.

All of them known to have serious effects on the human psyche, you just try living through the affects of water withdrawal, or see what happens to people who breath too much CO2, CO, or NOx!

WildCat · 3rd August 2006, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

wow, this has got to take the cake for nuttiness

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

I found that site a while ago, it is the shiznit for every wackjob idea you never knew about...

Jackalgirl · 3rd August 2006, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Meffy

If I wanted to get chemicals into people, I couldn't think of a better way than to scatter them in the upper atmosphere.

Oh, wait -- yes, I could. Scatter them down here where the people live.

But the government does that -- it's the Evil Fluoride Conspiracy! Muh hah hah hah hah hah!

SRW · 3rd August 2006, 09:29 PM

No one has been able to explain this picture

defaultdotxbe · 3rd August 2006, 10:46 PM

whats to explain?

SRW · 3rd August 2006, 11:00 PM

You don't see it?

defaultdotxbe · 3rd August 2006, 11:03 PM

i see a picture of the sun with what may be a contrail or may be a hair on the lens in it

SRW · 3rd August 2006, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

i see a picture of the sun with what may be a contrail or may be a hair on the lens in it

What I don't understand is why the sun didn't completly wash out the contrail. And why people on CT sites find this pic facinating.

defaultdotxbe · 3rd August 2006, 11:19 PM

possibly because the sun is reflecting off the contrail causing it to be nearly as bright as the sun, or it could be that this isnt the original framing, and the actual picture was zoomed out a bit more

notice in this pic clouds near the sun arent washed out either, and in fact appear much brighter than clouds farther away from the sun

a_unique_person · 3rd August 2006, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by apathoid

Finally, a conspiracy that I'm involved in! Woot!!

Seriously, talk about big conspiracies. Every pilot, mechanic and aerospace manufacturer in the entire world is keeping quiet about this (~10 million people) and has been for the last 40 years.

That's why we fear you so much.

defaultdotxbe · 3rd August 2006, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by apathoid

Finally, a conspiracy that I'm involved in! Woot!!

Seriously, talk about big conspiracies. Every pilot, mechanic and aerospace manufacturer in the entire world is keeping quiet about this (~10 million people) and has been for the last 40 years.

they arent all keeping quiet

http://www.rbnlive.com/mechanic.html#email

he found some extra hoses in the toilet apparently

apathoid · 4th August 2006, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

they arent all keeping quiet

http://www.rbnlive.com/mechanic.html#email

he found some extra hoses in the toilet apparently

Oh God! Good find man. Comic genius. I dont make it a point to make fun of paranoid schizophrenics, but damn. I hope this guy isnt really a mechanic, but if he is, I'm sure he gets the crapper tank cards frequently....

Quote:

I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.

Translation: I have no idea what I'm talking about and trying to sound smart, but failing miserably. Maybe thats why I'm working on crappers.

Quote:

It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind.

Thats because most "control boxes" dont have any markings on the front. You have to...gasp...know what the hell it is from experience, or look it up in a maintenance manual.

Quote:

If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wires

Wires? wrong!

Quote:

about the size of your finger

wrong!

Quote:

extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces

almost not wrong!

Quote:

I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through the fake wicks.

Hmmm, hollowed out 3/16" wicks which are affixed to a a very solid base which is fastened into surface of the elevators/ailerons/rudder which move indepentantly, wiping out any possible notion of tiny pipes running through to the wicks....What a doofus.

Quote:

I was called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperwork

As if! Thats a sparkchaser's job. Maybe he meant the crapper tank overflow sensors?

Quote:

The system had 1 large tank and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment, but it looked like the large tank could hold about 50 gallons

Hmmm, an aircraft mechanic that doesnt know what the engine/cargo fire bottles look like?

Quote:

When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain.

You mean they are pumping in evil chemtrail juice through the potable water fill port? I'm never drinking coffee on a plane again.

Quote:

I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers.

How did he trace this? With xray glasses or did he defuel and sump the wing tanks, pop open the tank plates and climb in for a peek or was he merely looking at hydraulic lines that run along the aft spar?

Quote:

"Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no concern of yours you will lose your job! As it is, I'm feeling generous, I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon." CLICK.

Translation: In a union shop, you got in somebodys way and it ticked them off so they filed a grievance.

Not the way to work ones self from changing tires and emptying crapper tanks.....

Funny stuff.

gtc · 4th August 2006, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by apathoid

You mean they are pumping in evil chemtrail juice through the potable water fill port? I'm never drinking coffee on a plane again.

That explains the coffee.

Hawk one · 4th August 2006, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by gtc

That explains the coffee.

Now -that- would be something that could only be explained by a conspiracy theory: Airline "food".

Johnny Pixels · 4th August 2006, 03:04 AM

Look! Chemtrails at low level!

Cuddles · 4th August 2006, 05:23 AM

Planes spreading chemicals? Are they sure they weren't looking at crop dusters?

Johnny Pixels · 4th August 2006, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Cuddles

Planes spreading chemicals? Are they sure they weren't looking at crop dusters?

Ahh, that's the difference between real life and North by Northwest. In the film, there was a conspiracy. Some people have difficulty telling the two apart though.

Grundar · 4th August 2006, 07:57 AM

The secret chemical is probably homeopathic in nature and gets diluted in the air to make it stronger. They probably have some crystals and unipolar magnets at the exhausts to increase the effect too. /woo mode off

/Hans

JollyRoger · 4th August 2006, 09:33 AM

first I would am curios as to what kind of chemical would survive intact from the tank to exhaust be diluted too so many parts per million and still effect what ever it falls on. Assuming it would it have to be inhaled or absorbed through the skin?

second I saw two chem-trails crossing each other a big X in the sky Mulder and Scully were no where to be found shaaaamm on them

and the last time I saw or noticed these chem trails I started to ponderer the structure of the universe. I theorized that it is a large mammalian like cell in a multicellular life form so enormous that we never recognized as such, and if its a life form I wonder would this explain the chaotic and non chaotic nature of things, it was some good stuff I hope to get some more

3rd August 2006, 10:35 AM	#1
JollyRoger Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Buggery's Island Posts: 437	you Guys forgot something no conspiracy forum is complete without chem-trails threads
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3rd August 2006, 12:55 PM	#2
TobiasTheViking Resident Asperger Autist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.S.A Posts: 5,437	well, thanks for starting one. I'll be the first to disent. Chem-trails is bunk.
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3rd August 2006, 01:48 PM	#4
Hutch International Arms Merchant and rollercoaster junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: About 7 Miles from the Saturn 5B Posts: 5,586	Originally Posted by Matthew Best What is a chem-trail? Well, Matt, if you look up into the clear blue sky on a lazy fall day, you may see a jet crossing the sky, with the white contrail stretching out and gradually dissipating into the surrounding blueness. If you live near one of the major routes, you can see three or four jets at a time, sometimes with their contrails crossing. And which of us hasn't watched such a sight sometime in our life? Well, to the chemtrail CT, it is more than just a idle moment; it is proof positive that the US Government/United Nations/Illuminati are spreading Chemicals in the air we breathe to control and modify our behavior so that we all become willing drones of the "Powers behind the Scene". Exactly what these chemicals are and how they manage to influence us is not exactly the CT'ers strongpoints, mind you; but they occasionally do produce some pretty pictures... Here are a couple of good places to start: http://www.rense.com/general2/chemss.htm http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/ch...ails_index.htm There is also a couple of threads over at the Bad Astronomy (BAUT) Forum (you'll have to go search for them) about chemtrails from some believers. Have fun.
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3rd August 2006, 02:40 PM	#8
Hutch International Arms Merchant and rollercoaster junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: About 7 Miles from the Saturn 5B Posts: 5,586	Originally Posted by Meffy Oh, wait -- yes, I could. Scatter them down here where the people live. ...and since you are an expert in scattering chemicals...
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3rd August 2006, 03:12 PM	#9
FramerDave Critical Thinker Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 491	Is anyone else tired as heck of checking in to JREF only to find the same old 9/11 CT drivel? I'll be very glad to finally see people get tired of it and move on to something else. Edit: Oh, I didn't notice they now have their own special little place here. Yay! Now I don't have to wade through the offal looking for something more interesting.
	Last edited by FramerDave; 3rd August 2006 at 03:15 PM.

3rd August 2006, 01:05 PM	#3
Matthew Best Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester Square, London Posts: 1,074	What is a chem-trail?

3rd August 2006, 02:03 PM	#5
apathoid Government Loyalist Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Virgo Supercluster Posts: 2,519	Finally, a conspiracy that I'm involved in! Woot!! Seriously, talk about big conspiracies. Every pilot, mechanic and aerospace manufacturer in the entire world is keeping quiet about this (~10 million people) and has been for the last 40 years.

3rd August 2006, 02:16 PM	#6
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 6,466	this is your standard GT (generic theory) well, theres these chemicals in the planes exhaust, im not sure what they are or what they do, but i can tell you the govt is definately behind it

3rd August 2006, 02:29 PM	#7
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	If I wanted to get chemicals into people, I couldn't think of a better way than to scatter them in the upper atmosphere. Oh, wait -- yes, I could. Scatter them down here where the people live.

3rd August 2006, 03:20 PM	#10
Matthew Best Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester Square, London Posts: 1,074	Originally Posted by Hutch it is proof positive that the US Government/United Nations/Illuminati are spreading Chemicals in the air we breathe to control and modify our behavior You have got to be kidding me!

3rd August 2006, 03:21 PM	#11
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	Originally Posted by Hutch ...and since you are an expert in scattering chemicals... Well -- not so much scattering as directing, but thank you for the thought. =^_^=

3rd August 2006, 03:22 PM	#12
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 6,466	Originally Posted by Matthew Best You have got to be kidding me! i know, its almost as good as alex jones's lithium baby batteries

3rd August 2006, 03:23 PM	#13
brodski faceless bureaucrat Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham Posts: 11,636	Originally Posted by FramerDave Is anyone else tired as heck of checking in to JREF only to find the same old 9/11 CT drivel? I've seen this comment a couple of times now, what is so offensive to people about discussing ct's?Why does this topic get criticized in the same way that,say, the endless Kumar/ MAS h'pathy threads didn't get? This is a genuine question and not meant to be a criticism of you FramerDave.
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3rd August 2006, 03:47 PM	#14
FramerDave Critical Thinker Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 491	Originally Posted by brodski I've seen this comment a couple of times now, what is so offensive to people about discussing ct's?Why does this topic get criticized in the same way that,say, the endless Kumar/ MAS h'pathy threads didn't get? This is a genuine question and not meant to be a criticism of you FramerDave. It's not necessarily offensive, just repetitive and tedious. Boring, reading the same things over and over again. The same applies to the MAS threads too. Surely there are other things to discuss?

3rd August 2006, 03:49 PM	#15
brodski faceless bureaucrat Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham Posts: 11,636	Originally Posted by FramerDave It's not necessarily offensive, just repetitive and tedious. Boring, reading the same things over and over again. The same applies to the MAS threads too. Surely there are other things to discuss? Fair enough, we all get differing things from this forum.
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3rd August 2006, 06:04 PM	#16
Yeah_Right Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 474	Chem trails eh? I recall hearing one obviously disturbed woman call into Art Bell's show, Coast to Coast AM. And she claimed to have witnessed a aircraft making a black contrail across the sky. She said it looked like it was making an opening in the sky. I am not sure that she believed it was doing exactly that, but she said that she went home and shook in fear for a while. I am not sure what to make of that story, unless she thought that the plane was making a tear in the time/space fabric. Perhaps the government does that to let the aliens through?
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3rd August 2006, 06:21 PM	#17
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 6,466	wow, this has got to take the cake for nuttiness http://educate-yourself.org/ct/ chemtrails, sylphs, orgone generators...oh my! http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/sylp...s06jun04.shtml i foudn this particularly amusing: Quote: Sylphs are transmuting air into water. Neon gas conversion to water is simple, as only two protons need to be drawn off the nucleus and chemically recombined with the remaining oxygen. The sylphs appear to be able to pull off neutrons, contain them with their magnetic fields, and use the hydrogen atom which is spontaneously generated a split second later when the neutron divides into a proton, electron and subquently emits a neutrino. apparently the solution to chemtrails is alchemy

3rd August 2006, 07:29 PM	#18
Oldpossum Scholar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Adelaide, SA Posts: 78	Why yes, Jet aircraft do emit chemicals that affect human behaviour, I would have thought it was obvious.... The nasty chemicals are Water and Carbon Dioxide, with a dash of Carbon monoxide, and Nitrous oxides. All of them known to have serious effects on the human psyche, you just try living through the affects of water withdrawal, or see what happens to people who breath too much CO2, CO, or NOx!

3rd August 2006, 07:32 PM	#19
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 23,599	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe wow, this has got to take the cake for nuttiness http://educate-yourself.org/ct/ I found that site a while ago, it is the shiznit for every wackjob idea you never knew about...
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3rd August 2006, 07:34 PM	#20
Jackalgirl Ping Jockey Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Honshu, Japan Posts: 1,768	Originally Posted by Meffy If I wanted to get chemicals into people, I couldn't think of a better way than to scatter them in the upper atmosphere. Oh, wait -- yes, I could. Scatter them down here where the people live. But the government does that -- it's the Evil Fluoride Conspiracy! Muh hah hah hah hah hah!

3rd August 2006, 10:46 PM	#22
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 6,466	whats to explain?

3rd August 2006, 11:00 PM	#23
SRW Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,721	You don't see it?
SRW Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,721

3rd August 2006, 11:03 PM	#24
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 6,466	i see a picture of the sun with what may be a contrail or may be a hair on the lens in it

3rd August 2006, 11:14 PM	#25
SRW Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,721	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe i see a picture of the sun with what may be a contrail or may be a hair on the lens in it What I don't understand is why the sun didn't completly wash out the contrail. And why people on CT sites find this pic facinating.
SRW Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,721

3rd August 2006, 11:19 PM	#26
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 6,466	possibly because the sun is reflecting off the contrail causing it to be nearly as bright as the sun, or it could be that this isnt the original framing, and the actual picture was zoomed out a bit more notice in this pic clouds near the sun arent washed out either, and in fact appear much brighter than clouds farther away from the sun

3rd August 2006, 11:47 PM	#27
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sitting in the ghostly glow of an LCD screen Posts: 26,944	Originally Posted by apathoid Finally, a conspiracy that I'm involved in! Woot!! Seriously, talk about big conspiracies. Every pilot, mechanic and aerospace manufacturer in the entire world is keeping quiet about this (~10 million people) and has been for the last 40 years. That's why we fear you so much.
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3rd August 2006, 11:59 PM	#28
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 6,466	Originally Posted by apathoid Finally, a conspiracy that I'm involved in! Woot!! Seriously, talk about big conspiracies. Every pilot, mechanic and aerospace manufacturer in the entire world is keeping quiet about this (~10 million people) and has been for the last 40 years. they arent all keeping quiet http://www.rbnlive.com/mechanic.html#email he found some extra hoses in the toilet apparently

4th August 2006, 01:24 AM	#29
apathoid Government Loyalist Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Virgo Supercluster Posts: 2,519	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe they arent all keeping quiet http://www.rbnlive.com/mechanic.html#email he found some extra hoses in the toilet apparently Oh God! Good find man. Comic genius. I dont make it a point to make fun of paranoid schizophrenics, but damn. I hope this guy isnt really a mechanic, but if he is, I'm sure he gets the crapper tank cards frequently.... Quote: I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus. Translation: I have no idea what I'm talking about and trying to sound smart, but failing miserably. Maybe thats why I'm working on crappers. Quote: It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind. Thats because most "control boxes" dont have any markings on the front. You have to...gasp...know what the hell it is from experience, or look it up in a maintenance manual. Quote: If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wires Wires? wrong! Quote: about the size of your finger wrong! Quote: extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces almost not wrong! Quote: I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through the fake wicks. Hmmm, hollowed out 3/16" wicks which are affixed to a a very solid base which is fastened into surface of the elevators/ailerons/rudder which move indepentantly, wiping out any possible notion of tiny pipes running through to the wicks....What a doofus. Quote: I was called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperwork As if! Thats a sparkchaser's job. Maybe he meant the crapper tank overflow sensors? Quote: The system had 1 large tank and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment, but it looked like the large tank could hold about 50 gallons Hmmm, an aircraft mechanic that doesnt know what the engine/cargo fire bottles look like? Quote: When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain. You mean they are pumping in evil chemtrail juice through the potable water fill port? I'm never drinking coffee on a plane again. Quote: I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers. How did he trace this? With xray glasses or did he defuel and sump the wing tanks, pop open the tank plates and climb in for a peek or was he merely looking at hydraulic lines that run along the aft spar? Quote: "Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no concern of yours you will lose your job! As it is, I'm feeling generous, I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon." CLICK. Translation: In a union shop, you got in somebodys way and it ticked them off so they filed a grievance. Not the way to work ones self from changing tires and emptying crapper tanks..... Funny stuff.
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4th August 2006, 01:54 AM	#30
gtc Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the downunderverse Posts: 6,794	Originally Posted by apathoid You mean they are pumping in evil chemtrail juice through the potable water fill port? I'm never drinking coffee on a plane again. That explains the coffee.

4th August 2006, 02:51 AM	#31
Hawk one Bond Villain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Guitar Hero dressing room... Posts: 9,614	Originally Posted by gtc That explains the coffee. Now -that- would be something that could only be explained by a conspiracy theory: Airline "food".
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4th August 2006, 03:04 AM	#32
Johnny Pixels and The Electric Revolution Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,393	Look! Chemtrails at low level!
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4th August 2006, 05:23 AM	#33
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 9,624	Planes spreading chemicals? Are they sure they weren't looking at crop dusters?
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4th August 2006, 07:50 AM	#34
Johnny Pixels and The Electric Revolution Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,393	Originally Posted by Cuddles Planes spreading chemicals? Are they sure they weren't looking at crop dusters? Ahh, that's the difference between real life and North by Northwest. In the film, there was a conspiracy. Some people have difficulty telling the two apart though.
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4th August 2006, 07:57 AM	#35
Grundar Scholar Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 82	The secret chemical is probably homeopathic in nature and gets diluted in the air to make it stronger. They probably have some crystals and unipolar magnets at the exhausts to increase the effect too. /woo mode off /Hans

4th August 2006, 09:33 AM	#36
JollyRoger Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Buggery's Island Posts: 437	first I would am curios as to what kind of chemical would survive intact from the tank to exhaust be diluted too so many parts per million and still effect what ever it falls on. Assuming it would it have to be inhaled or absorbed through the skin? second I saw two chem-trails crossing each other a big X in the sky Mulder and Scully were no where to be found shaaaamm on them and the last time I saw or noticed these chem trails I started to ponderer the structure of the universe. I theorized that it is a large mammalian like cell in a multicellular life form so enormous that we never recognized as such, and if its a life form I wonder would this explain the chaotic and non chaotic nature of things, it was some good stuff I hope to get some more
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