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Frostbite · 30th May 2003, 11:14 AM

Ok I'm beating a dead horse here, but here's an extremely long and interesting article about the psychology of alien abductions. Haven't read it whole but in parts.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/htdoc...527-000002.asp

c0rbin · 30th May 2003, 11:48 AM

Before I read Demon Haunted World, I thought people who claimed to have had Alien Abductions were probably having deep memories of thier birth.

You know the mythos around abduction...can't move, can't communicate. Uncomfortable examination, huge heads without mouths and big eyes (like doctor masks).

Probing of the loinal regions and privates, weird tubs shoved in mouth and nose.

Next time you get the opportunity to watch a birth (unedited) think about the alien abduction cliches.

Frostbite · 30th May 2003, 11:56 AM

Yeah exactly. Although I do consider myself as a.. hmm... somewhat of a UFO enthusiast, everytime I read abduction reports such as those in that article, they seem to have "false memory syndrome", "psychotic episode" and "alien fetish" written all over them.

Dancing David · 30th May 2003, 12:18 PM

Always beware anything that involves hypnotism to recover memories. I always wondered about the family histories of abducties. And if they have delusional disorders.

I used to have night terrors, you can really see some wierd stuff in tha hynogogic state.

uneasy · 30th May 2003, 12:23 PM

That's a good article. At risk of being flippant, I summarize it this way.

On one side, one researcher basically says, "People really do believe strange and horrible things happened to them, and I've proven that their memories of these things really does make them upset."

On the the other side, another researcher basically says, "Those people are shown in tests to have a higher degree of creating false memories than other people."

The more convincing of the two approaches is obvious to me. That's quite a misleading title that seems to promise proof of abductions. But he's just trying to "sell" the article with that title so people read it.

Frostbite · 30th May 2003, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by uneasy
The more convincing of the two approaches is obvious to me. That's quite a misleading title that seems to promise proof of abductions. But he's just trying to "sell" the article with that title so people read it.

Yeah, the title made me think the doctor would get into UFO evidence later in the article, but he doesn't. He rather goes into more convincing evidence against it hehe. It's very interesting.

30th May 2003, 11:14 AM	#1
Frostbite Muse Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, Qc Posts: 986	psychology of alien abductions Ok I'm beating a dead horse here, but here's an extremely long and interesting article about the psychology of alien abductions. Haven't read it whole but in parts. http://www.psychologytoday.com/htdoc...527-000002.asp
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30th May 2003, 11:48 AM	#2
c0rbin Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,806	Before I read Demon Haunted World, I thought people who claimed to have had Alien Abductions were probably having deep memories of thier birth. You know the mythos around abduction...can't move, can't communicate. Uncomfortable examination, huge heads without mouths and big eyes (like doctor masks). Probing of the loinal regions and privates, weird tubs shoved in mouth and nose. Next time you get the opportunity to watch a birth (unedited) think about the alien abduction cliches.
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30th May 2003, 11:56 AM	#3
Frostbite Muse Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, Qc Posts: 986	Yeah exactly. Although I do consider myself as a.. hmm... somewhat of a UFO enthusiast, everytime I read abduction reports such as those in that article, they seem to have "false memory syndrome", "psychotic episode" and "alien fetish" written all over them.
	__________________ Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction. They may be summed up by the phrases: 1- It's completely impossible. 2- It's possible, but it's not worth doing. 3- I said it was a good idea all along. -Arthur C. Clarke

30th May 2003, 12:18 PM	#4
Dancing David Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 34,921	Always beware anything that involves hypnotism to recover memories. I always wondered about the family histories of abducties. And if they have delusional disorders. I used to have night terrors, you can really see some wierd stuff in tha hynogogic state.
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30th May 2003, 12:23 PM	#5
uneasy Muse Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 504	That's a good article. At risk of being flippant, I summarize it this way. On one side, one researcher basically says, "People really do believe strange and horrible things happened to them, and I've proven that their memories of these things really does make them upset." On the the other side, another researcher basically says, "Those people are shown in tests to have a higher degree of creating false memories than other people." The more convincing of the two approaches is obvious to me. That's quite a misleading title that seems to promise proof of abductions. But he's just trying to "sell" the article with that title so people read it.
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30th May 2003, 12:45 PM	#6
Frostbite Muse Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, Qc Posts: 986	Quote: Originally posted by uneasy The more convincing of the two approaches is obvious to me. That's quite a misleading title that seems to promise proof of abductions. But he's just trying to "sell" the article with that title so people read it. Yeah, the title made me think the doctor would get into UFO evidence later in the article, but he doesn't. He rather goes into more convincing evidence against it hehe. It's very interesting.
	__________________ Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction. They may be summed up by the phrases: 1- It's completely impossible. 2- It's possible, but it's not worth doing. 3- I said it was a good idea all along. -Arthur C. Clarke