How many people did the truthers NOT kill today?

Sword_Of_Truth · 10th August 2006, 03:14 AM

As you may have heard by the time you read this, british authorities broke up a plot to repeat 9-11 with as many as 6 aircraft.

This is why conspiracy debunking is so important. Political issues aside, the CTs would have law enforcement and the courts chasing ghosts through Dick Cheneys filing cabinet while ignoring the real threat.

I've often used the analogy of trusting a gynecologist to perform brain surgery to describe the truthers deliberate ignorance of structural engineers and demolitions experts. You wouldn't let even the most brilliant doctor in a field other than neurosurgery to take out brain tumors when just one life is at stake. There is far more than one life at stake in finding the truth about 9-11. There are thousands, even millions of lives at stake. Yet the truthers are willfully and knowingly determined to get it wrong. They will take the opinion of economists, philosophers and theologians over that of engineers.

This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives.

MikeW · 10th August 2006, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth

This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives.

And yet people still email me asking why a Brit should be "so interested" in 9/11, like that's somehow suspicious & unlikely...

gumboot · 10th August 2006, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth

This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives.

Well said!

-Andrew

Cuddles · 10th August 2006, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth

As you may have heard by the time you read this, british authorities broke up a plot to repeat 9-11 with as many as 6 aircraft.

It seems the plan was to blow up the planes, presumably in flight, rather than copy 9-11.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm

Sword_Of_Truth · 10th August 2006, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by Cuddles

It seems the plan was to blow up the planes, presumably in flight, rather than copy 9-11.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm

I was watching the initial reports on the news. These are of course the kind of early "fog of war" reports that are often inaccurate or overstated wich 5 years from now the CTs will be quoting as gospel.

I'm open to being corrected as to the exact details of the plot but my point about CTers getting people killed stands.

This plot, however large or elaborate, was stopped because law enforcement was out there hunting terrorists, not wasting time and energy digging through Tony Blairs sock drawer.

kookbreaker · 10th August 2006, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth

I've often used the analogy of trusting a gynecologist to perform brain surgery to describe the truthers deliberate ignorance of structural engineers and demolitions experts. You wouldn't let even the most brilliant doctor in a field other than neurosurgery to take out brain tumors when just one life is at stake. There is far more than one life at stake in finding the truth about 9-11. There are thousands, even millions of lives at stake. Yet the truthers are willfully and knowingly determined to get it wrong. They will take the opinion of economists, philosophers and theologians over that of engineers.

I've said it before and someone said it before me: Conspiracy Theorists are like a watchdog that barks at every shadow. It thinks its doing a great job, when in fact it is less than useless.

brodski · 10th August 2006, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by MikeW

And yet people still email me asking why a Brit should be "so interested" in 9/11, like that's somehow suspicious & unlikely...

Yet they don't question Brits who are Troofers.

brad7 · 10th August 2006, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth

This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives.

As right as you are, the problem is CTs believe the same

.

senorpogo · 10th August 2006, 07:09 AM

If you're thinking - "hey, maybe this will convince the LCers that they're all idiotic psychopaths" - well, don't hold your breath.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...post&p=6612334

MarkyX · 10th August 2006, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

I've said it before and someone said it before me: Conspiracy Theorists are like a watchdog that barks at every shadow. It thinks its doing a great job, when in fact it is less than useless.

I'm so stealing that line.

T.A.M. · 10th August 2006, 07:14 AM

The good news folks, is unlike 9/11 where the CT crowd had a 2-3 year head start, we are right here and now to foil and disprove any of their Bullsheet.

kookbreaker · 10th August 2006, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by MarkyX

I'm so stealing that line.

It was actually first used by someone in the bautforum, just lettin' you know.

Class · 10th August 2006, 02:36 PM

If a government foils a terrorist plot, it is a psy-op to instill fear into the people. If a terrorist attack is carried out, it is an inside job by a government.

Only in CT world.

defaultdotxbe · 10th August 2006, 02:41 PM

Quote:

I've often used the analogy of trusting a gynecologist to perform brain surgery to describe the truthers deliberate ignorance of structural engineers and demolitions experts.

id use a proctologist instead, because i think thats what CTers think with anyway

Lonewulf · 10th August 2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth

This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives.

I'm not. I just oppose any distortions of the truth. I don't have any real agenda* for debunking anything, and I certainly don't do it because I think that I have any real impact on saving other's lives.

*Well, unless thinking that "the truth" is something to be obtained through knowledge and critical thinking is an agenda.

drfrank · 11th August 2006, 06:51 AM

Haha, I've already seen attempts to describe the whole plot as a conspiracy to cover up action in the Middle East. I've done my best to talk a little sense into some of the more paranoid idiots.

Linky here

10th August 2006, 03:14 AM	#1
Sword_Of_Truth Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,497	How many people did the truthers NOT kill today? As you may have heard by the time you read this, british authorities broke up a plot to repeat 9-11 with as many as 6 aircraft. This is why conspiracy debunking is so important. Political issues aside, the CTs would have law enforcement and the courts chasing ghosts through Dick Cheneys filing cabinet while ignoring the real threat. I've often used the analogy of trusting a gynecologist to perform brain surgery to describe the truthers deliberate ignorance of structural engineers and demolitions experts. You wouldn't let even the most brilliant doctor in a field other than neurosurgery to take out brain tumors when just one life is at stake. There is far more than one life at stake in finding the truth about 9-11. There are thousands, even millions of lives at stake. Yet the truthers are willfully and knowingly determined to get it wrong. They will take the opinion of economists, philosophers and theologians over that of engineers. This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives.

10th August 2006, 03:33 AM	#2
MikeW Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,911	Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives. And yet people still email me asking why a Brit should be "so interested" in 9/11, like that's somehow suspicious & unlikely...
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10th August 2006, 03:36 AM	#3
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,127	Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives. Well said! -Andrew
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10th August 2006, 04:33 AM	#4
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,597	Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth As you may have heard by the time you read this, british authorities broke up a plot to repeat 9-11 with as many as 6 aircraft. It seems the plan was to blow up the planes, presumably in flight, rather than copy 9-11. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm
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10th August 2006, 05:35 AM	#6
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,177	Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth I've often used the analogy of trusting a gynecologist to perform brain surgery to describe the truthers deliberate ignorance of structural engineers and demolitions experts. You wouldn't let even the most brilliant doctor in a field other than neurosurgery to take out brain tumors when just one life is at stake. There is far more than one life at stake in finding the truth about 9-11. There are thousands, even millions of lives at stake. Yet the truthers are willfully and knowingly determined to get it wrong. They will take the opinion of economists, philosophers and theologians over that of engineers. I've said it before and someone said it before me: Conspiracy Theorists are like a watchdog that barks at every shadow. It thinks its doing a great job, when in fact it is less than useless.
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10th August 2006, 04:45 AM	#5
Sword_Of_Truth Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,497	Originally Posted by Cuddles It seems the plan was to blow up the planes, presumably in flight, rather than copy 9-11. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm I was watching the initial reports on the news. These are of course the kind of early "fog of war" reports that are often inaccurate or overstated wich 5 years from now the CTs will be quoting as gospel. I'm open to being corrected as to the exact details of the plot but my point about CTers getting people killed stands. This plot, however large or elaborate, was stopped because law enforcement was out there hunting terrorists, not wasting time and energy digging through Tony Blairs sock drawer.

10th August 2006, 05:57 AM	#7
brodski Tea-Time toad Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 15,089	Originally Posted by MikeW And yet people still email me asking why a Brit should be "so interested" in 9/11, like that's somehow suspicious & unlikely... Yet they don't question Brits who are Troofers.
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10th August 2006, 06:16 AM	#8
brad7 New Blood Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 8	Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives. As right as you are, the problem is CTs believe the same .
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10th August 2006, 07:09 AM	#9
senorpogo Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,094	If you're thinking - "hey, maybe this will convince the LCers that they're all idiotic psychopaths" - well, don't hold your breath. http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...post&p=6612334

10th August 2006, 07:10 AM	#10
MarkyX Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,158	Originally Posted by kookbreaker I've said it before and someone said it before me: Conspiracy Theorists are like a watchdog that barks at every shadow. It thinks its doing a great job, when in fact it is less than useless. I'm so stealing that line.
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10th August 2006, 07:14 AM	#11
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	The good news folks, is unlike 9/11 where the CT crowd had a 2-3 year head start, we are right here and now to foil and disprove any of their Bullsheet.

10th August 2006, 07:55 AM	#12
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9,177	Originally Posted by MarkyX I'm so stealing that line. It was actually first used by someone in the bautforum, just lettin' you know.
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Class Meatball Skeptic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: A few miles south of the 38th parallel, sipping on a dry martini Posts: 257	If a government foils a terrorist plot, it is a psy-op to instill fear into the people. If a terrorist attack is carried out, it is an inside job by a government. Only in CT world.

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defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	Quote: I've often used the analogy of trusting a gynecologist to perform brain surgery to describe the truthers deliberate ignorance of structural engineers and demolitions experts. id use a proctologist instead, because i think thats what CTers think with anyway
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Lonewulf Humanistic Cyborg Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,380	Originally Posted by Sword_Of_Truth This has been an amusing and entertaining excersize for most of us, but today should remind us that we are fighting for more than just imaginary ego points, we are fighting for peoples lives. I'm not. I just oppose any distortions of the truth. I don't have any real agenda* for debunking anything, and I certainly don't do it because I think that I have any real impact on saving other's lives. *Well, unless thinking that "the truth" is something to be obtained through knowledge and critical thinking is an agenda.
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11th August 2006, 06:51 AM	#16
drfrank Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 446	Haha, I've already seen attempts to describe the whole plot as a conspiracy to cover up action in the Middle East. I've done my best to talk a little sense into some of the more paranoid idiots. Linky here
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