Spot the "Intentional" Errors in "Loose Change - Recut"

T.A.M. · 21st August 2006, 01:16 PM

This is a thread to try and differentiate the "Intentional" errors that Korey Rowe has said were purposely left in "Loose Change - Recut" so that we would be persuaded to go do our own research.

Now be warned, when you find an error, it may be an "intentional" one, or it may be a new one. When you find one, also be aware that if this is proven to actually be an error, and a new one, it might not be taken out, but rather left in as one of the "intentional" errors for "Loose Change - Final Cut" due out in the year 3001.

kookbreaker · 21st August 2006, 01:25 PM

Everything.

realitybites · 21st August 2006, 01:29 PM

They intentionally spelled Korey with a 'K'.

R.Mackey · 21st August 2006, 01:41 PM

Isn't a movie with "intentional errors" known as "fiction?"

This beats all. Is Killtown is their technical advisor now?

bob_kark · 21st August 2006, 01:42 PM

It was actually the terrorists who plotted and attacked America on 9/11, not Joos with frickin' lasers on their heads.

elgarak · 21st August 2006, 01:46 PM

I sense a new argumentation tactic coming along: Whenever the arguments get too good, the CTist goes: "I'm sorry, that was an intentional error. Let's talk about..."

jhunter1163 · 21st August 2006, 01:49 PM

I think they left in the intentional errors because otherwise the movie would only have been about 15 seconds long.

Stellafane · 21st August 2006, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

This is a thread to try and differentiate the "Intentional" errors that Korey Rowe has said were purposely left in "Loose Change - Recut" so that we would be persuaded to go do our own research.

Now be warned, when you find an error, it may be an "intentional" one, or it may be a new one. When you find one, also be aware that if this is proven to actually be an error, and a new one, it might not be taken out, but rather left in as one of the "intentional" errors for "Loose Change - Final Cut" due out in the year 3001.

Oh no, this just can't be...they are really going to try to palm off the goofs people find in LC - R as intentional?? So they get a free pass no matter how sloppy it is, because they'll just claim it was done on purpose to inspire people to do their own research??

Granted, the LC crowd aren't the brightest bulbs in the drawer. But how can anyone with enough mental wherewithal to remember which orifice you're supposed to put food into fall for anything that abyssmally stupid??

Dog Town · 21st August 2006, 02:09 PM

This is their next to last stand! When your defense becomes....SO, days number in the few. My guess is 911 will be the end of this! Angry Firemen Vs.
Pimples and momies allowance. Fireman win every time!
This just in: LC stinks...... the END!
DT

T.A.M. · 21st August 2006, 05:24 PM

Stellafane:

yup, unfortunately that is exactly how they are pushing it...

sad, but true, and not that surprising...

MarkyX · 21st August 2006, 07:01 PM

With some of the responses I got from my 9/11 Deniers video...it isn't going to be pissed off Firefighters

Dog Town · 21st August 2006, 07:20 PM

Quote:

With some of the responses I got from my 9/11 Deniers video...it isn't going to be pissed off Firefighters

Yes, but starting off behind the 8 ball is never good! 9 yes, but 8 never!

jon · 22nd August 2006, 08:28 AM

[rule8] me! Did he really say this? Has someone got a link?

Maybe this is the future, though - think how much easier it'd be to do any kind of research if you didn't need to worry about details like 'accuracy' and 'fact checking'

MarkyX · 22nd August 2006, 09:13 AM

http://alternet.org/story/40476/

Quote:

ROWE: What I encourage people to do is go out and research it themselves. We don't ever come out and say that everything we say is 100 percent. We know there are errors in the documentary, and we've actually left them in there so that people discredit us and do the research for themselves -- the B52 (remarked to have flown into the Empire State Building), the use of Wikipedia, things like that. We left them in there so people will want to discredit us and go out and research the events yourself and come up with your own conclusions. That's our whole goal, to make Americans think. To wake up from the 16 amps of your television to watch something and get a passion in something again.

Matthew Best · 22nd August 2006, 09:39 AM

Do TVs really run off 16 amps in America?

kevin · 22nd August 2006, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

Do TVs really run off 16 amps in America?

I hope not. Most residential circuits use 15 amp circuit breakers. Makes it hard to run the TV. Maybe he shorts his with a penny.

chipmunk stew · 22nd August 2006, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

Do TVs really run off 16 amps in America?

I don't know. But our guitar amps go up to 11.

jon · 22nd August 2006, 10:28 AM

clearly, the 16A claim was an intentional error in the interview - to make us go out to research information about TVs.

Matthew Best · 22nd August 2006, 11:53 AM

It worked!!!

jhunter1163 · 22nd August 2006, 12:22 PM

Chipmunk:

We could have just made 10 louder, but this is ELEVEN...

And we make really nifty 16" Stonehenges too.

chipmunk stew · 22nd August 2006, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

Chipmunk:

We could have just made 10 louder, but this is ELEVEN...

And we make really nifty 16" Stonehenges too.

Yeah. I envy us.

Dog Town · 22nd August 2006, 12:41 PM

I believe the problem was, the stonehenge monument on stage, in danger of being trodded upon by a dwarf!/derail!

StoneWT · 22nd August 2006, 12:42 PM

Yep, they're near the end of their rope. "Hi, I'm intentionally lying to you in order to get you to discover the truth for yourself." Huh?

They're falling back on this BS because they didn't do any research. They simply vacuumed conspiracy theories and slapdashed them into Loose Change. They truly DON'T KNOW what is wrong with their film. God forbid that it should get a limited release as claimed by the Noisier than Verbage kids. Some of them might get roughed up by police or military people.

If it ever sees widespread release, it will be shot down the same way Linda Thompson's infamous video of the flamethrowing tank at Waco was debunked.

jhunter1163 · 22nd August 2006, 01:47 PM

[derail] The problem was the Stonehenge was supposed to be 16 feet, not 16 inches. Although I suppose that would put it at risk from dwarves... [/derail]

T.A.M. · 22nd August 2006, 04:50 PM

Welcome StoneWT. Whether a Debunker or a CTer, your opinions will be allowed, but may or may not be accepted. Such it is in a skeptics forum.

rwguinn · 22nd August 2006, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

[derail] The problem was the Stonehenge was supposed to be 16 feet, not 16 inches. Although I suppose that would put it at risk from dwarves... [/derail]

was this a BS Johnson?

Dog Town · 22nd August 2006, 05:10 PM

Quote:

was this a BS Johnson?

He was reacting to my attempt at quoting said ST scene! I was close! Davd St. Hubbins I believe? /derail.

rwguinn · 22nd August 2006, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Dog Town

He was reacting to my attempt at quoting said ST scene! I was close! /dereal.

I was thinking in terms of Terry Pratchet...[/derail][/humor attempt]

R.Mackey · 22nd August 2006, 09:03 PM

Upon reflection, I kind of like this precedent...

Next time a Looser comes over here to start some trouble, I'll explain why they are wrong (keeping at least two brain cells occupied for a full second), but then explain that "my answer contains at least one deliberate mistake to make you think." If I'm lucky, the poor ignoramus will go berzerk trying to find it.

Ah, who'm I kidding. Half of them won't even read a thing you say.

gumboot · 22nd August 2006, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

Do TVs really run off 16 amps in America?

Wouldn't that be almost 2000W on the US grid? That's a pretty powerful TV :S

-Andrew

jhunter1163 · 23rd August 2006, 07:14 AM

And I think the two-word review of ST's album "(Rule8) Sandwich" pretty well sums up LCRC.

Hellbound · 23rd August 2006, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Wouldn't that be almost 2000W on the US grid? That's a pretty powerful TV :S

-Andrew

Maybe it's a 4,578,200" screen.

gumboot · 23rd August 2006, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Huntsman

Maybe it's a 4,578,200" screen.

Did you do Killtown maths?

Watts x AMP x Voltage x Hz = screen inch size?

-Andrew

Dog Town · 23rd August 2006, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

And I think the two-word review of ST's album "(Rule8) Sandwich" pretty well sums up LCRC.

That's not real is it? You can't print that! Where'd they print that?

gtc · 23rd August 2006, 09:31 PM

My new video contains conclusive proof that Korey et al are regularly intimate with farmyard animals*.

* Note film contains several deliberate errors to encourage people to do their own research.

Cuddles · 24th August 2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Wouldn't that be almost 2000W on the US grid? That's a pretty powerful TV :S

-Andrew

Obviously they need the high power to control your brain. Ingaine how embarassing it would be to broadcast your mind-control propaganda just to find it wasn't compatible with their TVs.

21st August 2006, 01:16 PM	#1
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Spot the "Intentional" Errors in "Loose Change - Recut" This is a thread to try and differentiate the "Intentional" errors that Korey Rowe has said were purposely left in "Loose Change - Recut" so that we would be persuaded to go do our own research. Now be warned, when you find an error, it may be an "intentional" one, or it may be a new one. When you find one, also be aware that if this is proven to actually be an error, and a new one, it might not be taken out, but rather left in as one of the "intentional" errors for "Loose Change - Final Cut" due out in the year 3001.

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21st August 2006, 01:41 PM	#4
R.Mackey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The armpit of L.A. Posts: 7,857	Isn't a movie with "intentional errors" known as "fiction?" This beats all. Is Killtown is their technical advisor now?

21st August 2006, 01:46 PM	#6
elgarak Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: No matter where I go, there I am Posts: 1,859	I sense a new argumentation tactic coming along: Whenever the arguments get too good, the CTist goes: "I'm sorry, that was an intentional error. Let's talk about..."

21st August 2006, 01:49 PM	#7
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,582	I think they left in the intentional errors because otherwise the movie would only have been about 15 seconds long.

21st August 2006, 01:58 PM	#8
Stellafane Village Idiot. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Green Mountains Posts: 6,285	Originally Posted by T.A.M. This is a thread to try and differentiate the "Intentional" errors that Korey Rowe has said were purposely left in "Loose Change - Recut" so that we would be persuaded to go do our own research. Now be warned, when you find an error, it may be an "intentional" one, or it may be a new one. When you find one, also be aware that if this is proven to actually be an error, and a new one, it might not be taken out, but rather left in as one of the "intentional" errors for "Loose Change - Final Cut" due out in the year 3001. Oh no, this just can't be...they are really going to try to palm off the goofs people find in LC - R as intentional?? So they get a free pass no matter how sloppy it is, because they'll just claim it was done on purpose to inspire people to do their own research?? Granted, the LC crowd aren't the brightest bulbs in the drawer. But how can anyone with enough mental wherewithal to remember which orifice you're supposed to put food into fall for anything that abyssmally stupid??

21st August 2006, 05:24 PM	#10
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Stellafane: yup, unfortunately that is exactly how they are pushing it... sad, but true, and not that surprising...

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Dog Town Space for Rent Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,464	Quote: With some of the responses I got from my 9/11 Deniers video...it isn't going to be pissed off Firefighters Yes, but starting off behind the 8 ball is never good! 9 yes, but 8 never!
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22nd August 2006, 08:28 AM	#13
jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	[rule8] me! Did he really say this? Has someone got a link? Maybe this is the future, though - think how much easier it'd be to do any kind of research if you didn't need to worry about details like 'accuracy' and 'fact checking'
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22nd August 2006, 09:13 AM	#14
MarkyX Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,158	http://alternet.org/story/40476/ Quote: ROWE: What I encourage people to do is go out and research it themselves. We don't ever come out and say that everything we say is 100 percent. We know there are errors in the documentary, and we've actually left them in there so that people discredit us and do the research for themselves -- the B52 (remarked to have flown into the Empire State Building), the use of Wikipedia, things like that. We left them in there so people will want to discredit us and go out and research the events yourself and come up with your own conclusions. That's our whole goal, to make Americans think. To wake up from the 16 amps of your television to watch something and get a passion in something again.
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kevin Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,666	Originally Posted by Matthew Best Do TVs really run off 16 amps in America? I hope not. Most residential circuits use 15 amp circuit breakers. Makes it hard to run the TV. Maybe he shorts his with a penny.
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chipmunk stew The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE PA Posts: 7,465	Originally Posted by Matthew Best Do TVs really run off 16 amps in America? I don't know. But our guitar amps go up to 11.
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jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	clearly, the 16A claim was an intentional error in the interview - to make us go out to research information about TVs.
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22nd August 2006, 11:53 AM	#19
Matthew Best Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester Square, London Posts: 4,147	It worked!!!

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jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,582	Chipmunk: We could have just made 10 louder, but this is ELEVEN... And we make really nifty 16" Stonehenges too.

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chipmunk stew The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE PA Posts: 7,465	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 Chipmunk: We could have just made 10 louder, but this is ELEVEN... And we make really nifty 16" Stonehenges too. Yeah. I envy us.
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Dog Town Space for Rent Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,464	I believe the problem was, the stonehenge monument on stage, in danger of being trodded upon by a dwarf!/derail!
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22nd August 2006, 12:42 PM	#23
StoneWT Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 401	How stupid can a bunch of dumb kids be? Yep, they're near the end of their rope. "Hi, I'm intentionally lying to you in order to get you to discover the truth for yourself." Huh? They're falling back on this BS because they didn't do any research. They simply vacuumed conspiracy theories and slapdashed them into Loose Change. They truly DON'T KNOW what is wrong with their film. God forbid that it should get a limited release as claimed by the Noisier than Verbage kids. Some of them might get roughed up by police or military people. If it ever sees widespread release, it will be shot down the same way Linda Thompson's infamous video of the flamethrowing tank at Waco was debunked.
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22nd August 2006, 01:47 PM	#24
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,582	[derail] The problem was the Stonehenge was supposed to be 16 feet, not 16 inches. Although I suppose that would put it at risk from dwarves... [/derail]

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rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 8,450	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 [derail] The problem was the Stonehenge was supposed to be 16 feet, not 16 inches. Although I suppose that would put it at risk from dwarves... [/derail] was this a BS Johnson?
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Dog Town Space for Rent Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,464	Quote: was this a BS Johnson? He was reacting to my attempt at quoting said ST scene! I was close! Davd St. Hubbins I believe? /derail.
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rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 8,450	Originally Posted by Dog Town He was reacting to my attempt at quoting said ST scene! I was close! /dereal. I was thinking in terms of Terry Pratchet...[/derail][/humor attempt]
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R.Mackey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The armpit of L.A. Posts: 7,857	Upon reflection, I kind of like this precedent... Next time a Looser comes over here to start some trouble, I'll explain why they are wrong (keeping at least two brain cells occupied for a full second), but then explain that "my answer contains at least one deliberate mistake to make you think." If I'm lucky, the poor ignoramus will go berzerk trying to find it. Ah, who'm I kidding. Half of them won't even read a thing you say.

22nd August 2006, 09:38 PM	#30
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,127	Originally Posted by Matthew Best Do TVs really run off 16 amps in America? Wouldn't that be almost 2000W on the US grid? That's a pretty powerful TV :S -Andrew
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23rd August 2006, 07:14 AM	#31
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,582	And I think the two-word review of ST's album "(Rule8) Sandwich" pretty well sums up LCRC.

23rd August 2006, 07:20 AM	#32
Hellbound Abiogenic Spongiform Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a handbasket Posts: 8,930	Originally Posted by gumboot Wouldn't that be almost 2000W on the US grid? That's a pretty powerful TV :S -Andrew Maybe it's a 4,578,200" screen.

23rd August 2006, 08:28 PM	#33
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,127	Originally Posted by Huntsman Maybe it's a 4,578,200" screen. Did you do Killtown maths? Watts x AMP x Voltage x Hz = screen inch size? -Andrew
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23rd August 2006, 09:14 PM	#34
Dog Town Space for Rent Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,464	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 And I think the two-word review of ST's album "(Rule8) Sandwich" pretty well sums up LCRC. That's not real is it? You can't print that! Where'd they print that?
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23rd August 2006, 09:31 PM	#35
gtc Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the downunderverse Posts: 7,114	My new video contains conclusive proof that Korey et al are regularly intimate with farmyard animals. Note film contains several deliberate errors to encourage people to do their own research.