Killtowns Science Background: ?

Bandersnatch · 21st August 2006, 02:53 PM

Well, here's the new thread.

What is your background in science?

High school?

College?

Post-Grad?

Yoink · 21st August 2006, 02:57 PM

Dude, the guy's like a black-belt in "forensics." Don't make him get his calculator repaired: it could get ugly.

Dr Richard · 21st August 2006, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bandersnatch

Well, here's the new thread.

What is your background in science?

High school?

College?

Post-Grad?

Bandersnatch, I can really sympathise where you are going with this.

But I think we know the answer, and attacking Killtown directly, although fun, is in essence an ad hom and I think we should avoid it.

Indeed, Killtown, if you are having any problems with math or getting access to research papers, please PM me and I'll see if I can help/access them for you.

All PMs will be confidential. Copy the link to this post; I promise not to divulge the content of any requests for help or information without your permission.

BW

DrR

Bandersnatch · 21st August 2006, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Bandersnatch, I can really sympathise where you are going with this.

But I think we know the answer, and attacking Killtown directly, although fun, is in essence an ad hom and I think we should avoid it.

While I understand that it may look like I'm doing this as an insult to Killtown, due to my insistance, that is not at all my purpose. I would like to know the level of understanding Killtown has of math principles, and physics. I would have liked a quick reply on the other thread, but he seggested I start a new one.

CurtC · 21st August 2006, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Bandersnatch

I would like to know the level of understanding Killtown has of math principles, and physics.

All anyone has to do is read the Flight 93 Plume thread to find this out.

I think it's pointless to ask someone's background unless his resume' is being used as lending authority to his position. Everyone is free to make good solid arguments.

Johnny C. · 21st August 2006, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bandersnatch

Well, here's the new thread.

What is your background in science?

High school?

College?

Post-Grad?

I would guess that he majored in MS Paint.

Gravy · 21st August 2006, 08:05 PM

This post pretty much says it all.

He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet.

Arkan_Wolfshade · 21st August 2006, 08:08 PM

You know what, as a sign of good faith, I'll throw my credentials in the ring:
* 12 credits short of a BS in Computer Science
* Worked in IT/MIS since '97
* Have been a sysadmin/erp admin/dba since '99

Anything beyond that is self taught.

Gravy · 21st August 2006, 08:25 PM

Actually, this fact says even more: Killtown has now put 19 respondents to his "plume" thread on "ignore."

Axiom_Blade · 21st August 2006, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

This post pretty much says it all.

He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet.

WHAT

valis · 22nd August 2006, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Gravy

This post pretty much says it all.

He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet.

My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it

Gravy · 22nd August 2006, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by valis

My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it

Meffy · 22nd August 2006, 08:17 AM

What a fuel hog!

I'm wondering how someone whose avatar implies that the Yew Ess Gummint ruthlessly silences all dissent manages to... well, to spew so much. Isn't the Bureau of Independent Thought Quashing doing their job keeping him quiet? (Or does kt fall under the auspices of the Rumor Regurgitation Squadron? Hmmm.)

ponderingturtle · 22nd August 2006, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by valis

My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it

So a Rod is 16.5 feet and a hogs head is 84 gallons. So that would mean it goes 660 feet with 84 gallons or 672 gallons per mile. You get worse fule ecconomy that the shuttle crawler as that is only 150 gallons per mile.

What on earth do you drive? THe only reasonable answer I can think of is a walking drag line.

Meffy · 22nd August 2006, 10:35 AM

@ponderingturtle: Isn't it obvious?

A Hummer.

Hutch · 22nd August 2006, 10:58 AM

From a button on my Wall:

Quote:

1.8026 x 10¹² Furlongs per Fortnight; Tis' a good idea, and it doth be the law

.

I once calculated that out longhand, so that is about the limit of my math.

Did manage Trig. and Solid Geometry in High School, some scence classes in college (Major was Education, what can I say..)

I'm pretty sure I'm smarter than KT, though...not that that is anything to brag about...

Meffy · 22nd August 2006, 10:59 AM

1.8026 x 10¹² Furlongs per Fortnight -- how much [edit: area] does that come to when rendered boustrophedontically? Let us assume 3-inch furrows on 4-foot centers.

kevin · 22nd August 2006, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

So a Rod is 16.5 feet

yes, but is that in survey feet or international feet?

ponderingturtle · 22nd August 2006, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by kevin

yes, but is that in survey feet or international feet?

There are more feet than that. I see Sear's, Clarke's, Indian, and Benoit. They only vary in the 3-7 decimal place though.

So they are close enough that it will be well under 1% difference in this. Also remember how much road conditions and driving technique can effect mileage, a much higher percentage.

Meffy · 22nd August 2006, 11:31 AM

Don't neglect Meffy's Metric Foot, which is 1/3 meter exactly. (Meffy's Metric Inch is 25mm exactly.)

Mr. Skinny · 22nd August 2006, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

This post pretty much says it all.

He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet.

Gravy, I was just trying to be humorous (as I'm sure you are aware).

It was just so dag-gone stupid, I had to make a bit of a joke.

I've forgotten a lot of my engineering skillz, but, ya know, miles gotta be converted to feet (or vice versa) before you can get an answer.

fuelair · 22nd August 2006, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

There are more feet than that. I see Sear's, Clarke's, Indian, and Benoit. They only vary in the 3-7 decimal place though.

So they are close enough that it will be well under 1% difference in this. Also remember how much road conditions and driving technique can effect mileage, a much higher percentage.

How much is that in bare foots?

rwguinn · 22nd August 2006, 05:03 PM

I think it possible he may have stayed at a "Holiday Inn Express" once.
In his parent's room.

Hutch · 22nd August 2006, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Meffy

1.8026 x 10¹² Furlongs per Fortnight -- how much [edit: area] does that come to when rendered boustrophedontically? Let us assume 3-inch furrows on 4-foot centers.

...about 600 bazillion concrete cores

Meffy · 22nd August 2006, 06:44 PM

That many? I mean... I'm proud that our allies the Bazillions and the the invisible Cretans are helping us in this grand effort.

fuelair · 23rd August 2006, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Meffy

That many? I mean... I'm proud that our allies the Bazillions and the the invisible Cretans are helping us in this grand effort.

Isn't that supposed to be invisible cretins?

Cuddles · 23rd August 2006, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Skinny

I've forgotten a lot of my engineering skillz, but, ya know, miles gotta be converted to feet (or vice versa) before you can get an answer.

I thought it was traditional to convert miles into metres per second and then crash them into planets at high speed.

Gravy · 24th August 2006, 05:52 AM

From Killtown's website:

Remember, folks: flight 93 impacted at 580 mph, 850 feet per second, or, as Huntsman put it so well, that largely hollow shell of thin aluminum and fuel was traveling faster than a bullet from a .45.

Brainache · 24th August 2006, 05:59 AM

I must admit that I have never actually checked his blog. Is this real?
Coz if its real I guess that proves it then.
Can't argue with them forensics.
I hope this means Arkan, Gravy, MacX and everyone else will be apologising to Killtown for ever doubting his credentials.

Hutch · 24th August 2006, 06:24 AM

I just looked at that picture, Gravy....

I think that it should be posted on any site that KT goes to debate at, so that all posters therein can tell what level of expertise they are dealing with.

As for science education, I think KT must have watched 1/2 hour of Nova sometime in his teens..but it didn't take.

realitybites · 24th August 2006, 06:32 AM

What I love about the CTers(ists) is how quickly they'll dismiss 10,000 pages of the NIST report that contain equations and variations on experiements and computer models and, well... you know. Science stuff.

But they'll take one look at pictures like the one Killtown drew and be all "Inside job!!!!"

PS - KT, next time, if you could toss in a few 'happy little trees' in the background, that'd be sweet.

edit: Ok, so KT didn't draw it. Found it significant enough to put on his site as evidence... but he didn't draw it. Disregard 'happy little trees' comment.

Big Les · 24th August 2006, 06:33 AM

Holy *****, that's priceless! I wonder if he was making "neeeeeawng-boooom!" sounds whilst drawing it?

Gravy · 24th August 2006, 06:42 AM

To clarify, I don't believe Killtown drew the picture. I think it was that moron "Spooked" whose done those wonderful Killtown-worthy "experiments."

However, Killtown uses this picture as evidence That filght 93 didn't crash in PA. It's on his site on a page devoted to flight 93 photos, maps, and diagrams.

Arkan_Wolfshade · 24th August 2006, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Brainache

I must admit that I have never actually checked his blog. Is this real?
Coz if its real I guess that proves it then.
Can't argue with them forensics.
I hope this means Arkan, Gravy, MacX and everyone else will be apologising to Killtown for ever doubting his credentials.

I'm writing up my mea culpe now.

KingMerv00 · 24th August 2006, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Gravy

From Killtown's website:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...da0dad0ba4.jpg

That's adorable. I'm putting that on my fridge.

Edit: "Tail probably sticking out of the ground." Right...don't probabilities require some kind of math?

Meffy · 24th August 2006, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by fuelair

Isn't that supposed to be invisible cretins?

I don't know -- I can't see them! :-(

fuelair · 24th August 2006, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by KingMerv00

That's adorable. I'm putting that on my fridge.

Edit: "Tail probably sticking out of the ground." Right...don't probabilities require some kind of math?

Not when your brain is an improbability drive stuck in wow-woo gear.

Bronze Dog · 25th August 2006, 06:46 AM

So, let me get this straight: Either the plane is so utterly fragile that any impact will send pieces flying in every direction, rather than letting it the bulk of it remain together long enough to crash into the Pentagon OR it's so absolutely sturdy and rigid it'll burrow into the ground intact.

Yeah...

TjW · 25th August 2006, 08:05 AM

It's not either-or, it's both! Like wave-particle duality. It's quantum, man.

ponderingturtle · 25th August 2006, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by KingMerv00

That's adorable. I'm putting that on my fridge.

Edit: "Tail probably sticking out of the ground." Right...don't probabilities require some kind of math?

Yes but they would require understanding things like structural stress and angle of incidence and so forth.

21st August 2006, 02:53 PM	#1
Bandersnatch Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 411	Killtowns Science Background: ? Well, here's the new thread. What is your background in science? High school? College? Post-Grad?

21st August 2006, 02:57 PM	#2
Yoink Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,937	Dude, the guy's like a black-belt in "forensics." Don't make him get his calculator repaired: it could get ugly.
Yoink Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,937

21st August 2006, 03:00 PM	#3
Dr Richard Thinker Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 203	Originally Posted by Bandersnatch Well, here's the new thread. What is your background in science? High school? College? Post-Grad? Bandersnatch, I can really sympathise where you are going with this. But I think we know the answer, and attacking Killtown directly, although fun, is in essence an ad hom and I think we should avoid it. Indeed, Killtown, if you are having any problems with math or getting access to research papers, please PM me and I'll see if I can help/access them for you. All PMs will be confidential. Copy the link to this post; I promise not to divulge the content of any requests for help or information without your permission. BW DrR
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21st August 2006, 05:08 PM	#6
Johnny C. Scholar Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 79	Originally Posted by Bandersnatch Well, here's the new thread. What is your background in science? High school? College? Post-Grad? I would guess that he majored in MS Paint.
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21st August 2006, 08:05 PM	#7
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	This post pretty much says it all. He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet.
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21st August 2006, 03:11 PM	#4
Bandersnatch Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 411	Quote: Bandersnatch, I can really sympathise where you are going with this. But I think we know the answer, and attacking Killtown directly, although fun, is in essence an ad hom and I think we should avoid it. While I understand that it may look like I'm doing this as an insult to Killtown, due to my insistance, that is not at all my purpose. I would like to know the level of understanding Killtown has of math principles, and physics. I would have liked a quick reply on the other thread, but he seggested I start a new one.

21st August 2006, 03:29 PM	#5
CurtC Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4,758	Originally Posted by Bandersnatch I would like to know the level of understanding Killtown has of math principles, and physics. All anyone has to do is read the Flight 93 Plume thread to find this out. I think it's pointless to ask someone's background unless his resume' is being used as lending authority to his position. Everyone is free to make good solid arguments.

21st August 2006, 08:08 PM	#8
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	You know what, as a sign of good faith, I'll throw my credentials in the ring: * 12 credits short of a BS in Computer Science * Worked in IT/MIS since '97 * Have been a sysadmin/erp admin/dba since '99 Anything beyond that is self taught.
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21st August 2006, 08:25 PM	#9
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Actually, this fact says even more: Killtown has now put 19 respondents to his "plume" thread on "ignore."
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21st August 2006, 08:28 PM	#10
Axiom_Blade Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,736	Originally Posted by Gravy This post pretty much says it all. He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet. WHAT

22nd August 2006, 02:48 AM	#11
valis Muse Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: sebastian. fl Posts: 649	Originally Posted by Gravy This post pretty much says it all. He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet. My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it
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22nd August 2006, 03:24 AM	#12
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by valis My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it
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22nd August 2006, 08:17 AM	#13
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	What a fuel hog! I'm wondering how someone whose avatar implies that the Yew Ess Gummint ruthlessly silences all dissent manages to... well, to spew so much. Isn't the Bureau of Independent Thought Quashing doing their job keeping him quiet? (Or does kt fall under the auspices of the Rumor Regurgitation Squadron? Hmmm.)

22nd August 2006, 10:29 AM	#14
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 26,424	Originally Posted by valis My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it So a Rod is 16.5 feet and a hogs head is 84 gallons. So that would mean it goes 660 feet with 84 gallons or 672 gallons per mile. You get worse fule ecconomy that the shuttle crawler as that is only 150 gallons per mile. What on earth do you drive? THe only reasonable answer I can think of is a walking drag line.

22nd August 2006, 10:35 AM	#15
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	@ponderingturtle: Isn't it obvious? A Hummer.

22nd August 2006, 10:58 AM	#16
Hutch A broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's Privateers Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: About 7 Miles from the Saturn 5B Posts: 6,533	From a button on my Wall: Quote: 1.8026 x 10¹² Furlongs per Fortnight; Tis' a good idea, and it doth be the law . I once calculated that out longhand, so that is about the limit of my math. Did manage Trig. and Solid Geometry in High School, some scence classes in college (Major was Education, what can I say..) I'm pretty sure I'm smarter than KT, though...not that that is anything to brag about...
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22nd August 2006, 10:59 AM	#17
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	1.8026 x 10¹² Furlongs per Fortnight -- how much [edit: area] does that come to when rendered boustrophedontically? Let us assume 3-inch furrows on 4-foot centers.

22nd August 2006, 11:03 AM	#18
kevin Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,666	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle So a Rod is 16.5 feet yes, but is that in survey feet or international feet?
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22nd August 2006, 11:08 AM	#19
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 26,424	Originally Posted by kevin yes, but is that in survey feet or international feet? There are more feet than that. I see Sear's, Clarke's, Indian, and Benoit. They only vary in the 3-7 decimal place though. So they are close enough that it will be well under 1% difference in this. Also remember how much road conditions and driving technique can effect mileage, a much higher percentage.

22nd August 2006, 11:31 AM	#20
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	Don't neglect Meffy's Metric Foot, which is 1/3 meter exactly. (Meffy's Metric Inch is 25mm exactly.)

22nd August 2006, 03:38 PM	#21
Mr. Skinny Alien Cryogenic Engineer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 8,192	Originally Posted by Gravy This post pretty much says it all. He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet. Gravy, I was just trying to be humorous (as I'm sure you are aware). It was just so dag-gone stupid, I had to make a bit of a joke. I've forgotten a lot of my engineering skillz, but, ya know, miles gotta be converted to feet (or vice versa) before you can get an answer.
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22nd August 2006, 04:20 PM	#22
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,911	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle There are more feet than that. I see Sear's, Clarke's, Indian, and Benoit. They only vary in the 3-7 decimal place though. So they are close enough that it will be well under 1% difference in this. Also remember how much road conditions and driving technique can effect mileage, a much higher percentage. How much is that in bare foots?
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22nd August 2006, 05:03 PM	#23
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 8,430	science background? I think it possible he may have stayed at a "Holiday Inn Express" once. In his parent's room.
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22nd August 2006, 05:55 PM	#24
Hutch A broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's Privateers Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: About 7 Miles from the Saturn 5B Posts: 6,533	Originally Posted by Meffy 1.8026 x 10¹² Furlongs per Fortnight -- how much [edit: area] does that come to when rendered boustrophedontically? Let us assume 3-inch furrows on 4-foot centers. ...about 600 bazillion concrete cores
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22nd August 2006, 06:44 PM	#25
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	That many? I mean... I'm proud that our allies the Bazillions and the the invisible Cretans are helping us in this grand effort.

23rd August 2006, 03:37 PM	#26
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,911	Originally Posted by Meffy That many? I mean... I'm proud that our allies the Bazillions and the the invisible Cretans are helping us in this grand effort. Isn't that supposed to be invisible cretins?
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23rd August 2006, 04:31 PM	#27
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,580	Originally Posted by Mr. Skinny I've forgotten a lot of my engineering skillz, but, ya know, miles gotta be converted to feet (or vice versa) before you can get an answer. I thought it was traditional to convert miles into metres per second and then crash them into planets at high speed.
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24th August 2006, 05:52 AM	#28
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	From Killtown's website: Remember, folks: flight 93 impacted at 580 mph, 850 feet per second, or, as Huntsman put it so well, that largely hollow shell of thin aluminum and fuel was traveling faster than a bullet from a .45.
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24th August 2006, 05:59 AM	#29
Brainache Nasty Brutish and Tall Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Knob Hill. Posts: 9,086	I must admit that I have never actually checked his blog. Is this real? Coz if its real I guess that proves it then. Can't argue with them forensics. I hope this means Arkan, Gravy, MacX and everyone else will be apologising to Killtown for ever doubting his credentials.
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24th August 2006, 06:24 AM	#30
Hutch A broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's Privateers Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: About 7 Miles from the Saturn 5B Posts: 6,533	I just looked at that picture, Gravy.... I think that it should be posted on any site that KT goes to debate at, so that all posters therein can tell what level of expertise they are dealing with. As for science education, I think KT must have watched 1/2 hour of Nova sometime in his teens..but it didn't take.
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24th August 2006, 06:32 AM	#31
realitybites Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 1,066	What I love about the CTers(ists) is how quickly they'll dismiss 10,000 pages of the NIST report that contain equations and variations on experiements and computer models and, well... you know. Science stuff. But they'll take one look at pictures like the one Killtown drew and be all "Inside job!!!!" PS - KT, next time, if you could toss in a few 'happy little trees' in the background, that'd be sweet. edit: Ok, so KT didn't draw it. Found it significant enough to put on his site as evidence... but he didn't draw it. Disregard 'happy little trees' comment.
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24th August 2006, 06:33 AM	#32
Big Les Not so much a medium as a large Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 5,004	Holy *****, that's priceless! I wonder if he was making "neeeeeawng-boooom!" sounds whilst drawing it?

24th August 2006, 06:42 AM	#33
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	To clarify, I don't believe Killtown drew the picture. I think it was that moron "Spooked" whose done those wonderful Killtown-worthy "experiments." However, Killtown uses this picture as evidence That filght 93 didn't crash in PA. It's on his site on a page devoted to flight 93 photos, maps, and diagrams.
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24th August 2006, 07:58 AM	#34
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	Originally Posted by Brainache I must admit that I have never actually checked his blog. Is this real? Coz if its real I guess that proves it then. Can't argue with them forensics. I hope this means Arkan, Gravy, MacX and everyone else will be apologising to Killtown for ever doubting his credentials. I'm writing up my mea culpe now.
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24th August 2006, 10:41 AM	#35
KingMerv00 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA Posts: 14,482	Originally Posted by Gravy From Killtown's website: http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...da0dad0ba4.jpg That's adorable. I'm putting that on my fridge. Edit: "Tail probably sticking out of the ground." Right...don't probabilities require some kind of math?
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