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Brainster · 29th August 2006, 11:55 AM

Uncle Fetzer often talks about this on his show and elsewhere; now I see that Pat Buchanan has picked up the torch.

Quote:

The American people never supported NAFTA, and they are angry over Bush's failure to secure the border -- but a shotgun marriage between our two nations appears prearranged. Central feature: a ten-lane, 400-yard-wide NAFTA Super Highway from the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, up to and across the U.S. border, all the way to Canada. Within the median strip dividing the north and south car and truck lanes would be rail lines for both passengers and freight traffic, and oil and gas pipelines.

Buchanan brings in the merger of Canada, the US and Mexico, which he helpfully terms "Mexamerica".

Fetzer likes to claim that this highway would "bifurcate the country" (as if, for example, Route 80 doesn't already).

Anybody beeen following this story? I know crackpot Jerome Corsi has been pushing this hard at Human Events Online. Here's a good debate back and forth between Corsi and John Hawkins, the proprietor of Right Wing News (who doesn't buy the Mexamerica claims).

T.A.M. · 29th August 2006, 12:17 PM

Hey, why does Buchanan leave Canada out of the name...no fair...

Canexica seems perfect...

Or, also known as The United Countries of Canexica (UCC)

Hellbound · 29th August 2006, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

Hey, why does Buchanan leave Canada out of the name...no fair...

Canexica seems perfect...

Or, also known as The United Countries of Canexica (UCC)

Mexicanerica

Cameca

Amexican

I could have fun with this for hours

Yes, I'm easily amused! Leave me alone! Acanico...

DavidJames · 29th August 2006, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

Hey, why does Buchanan leave Canada out of the name...no fair...

how about Mexamerica, eh

T.A.M. · 29th August 2006, 12:30 PM

Collective Republics of American Persuasion...(C.R.A.P.)

azazal · 29th August 2006, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Huntsman

Mexicanerica

Cameca

Amexican

I could have fun with this for hours

Yes, I'm easily amused! Leave me alone! Acanico...

I always liked The North American Combine. Does this mean I can have my nuke flinging cyber tank now?

Arkan_Wolfshade · 29th August 2006, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by azazal

I always liked The North American Combine. Does this mean I can have my nuke flinging cyber tank now?

I'd prefer

Courtesy The VITAS plague

Bandersnatch · 29th August 2006, 12:51 PM

He's already got as pegged as Soviet Canuckistan.

The United Soviet Countries of Canexica, USCC?

azazal · 29th August 2006, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade

I'd prefer *snip*
Courtesy The VITAS plague

If so, I hope you have plenty of bug spray handy

Arkan_Wolfshade · 29th August 2006, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by azazal

If so, I hope you have plenty of bug spray handy

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T.A.M. · 29th August 2006, 12:56 PM

ya me too...my part of North America is not even on the above map

Dog Town · 29th August 2006, 12:59 PM

There ain't enough guns on the planet to divide Texas! Don't Mess With TEXAS!

Hellbound · 29th August 2006, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dog Town

There ain't enough guns on the planet to divide Texas! Don't Mess With TEXAS!

Well, in that map, it wasn't guns.

It was earthquakes, volcanoes, dragons, wizards, elementals, spirits, and other assorted mystical nastiness.

Dog Town · 29th August 2006, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Huntsman

Well, in that map, it wasn't guns.

It was earthquakes, volcanoes, dragons, wizards, elementals, spirits, and other assorted mystical nastiness.

That was middle earth 2?

azazal · 29th August 2006, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dog Town

That was middle earth 2?

http://www.shadowrunrpg.com/

Stellafane · 29th August 2006, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade

I'd prefer...

Courtesy The VITAS plague

They sure assume a lot of west coast tectonic activity over the next 60+ years. (Personally, I think global warming has a better chance of visibly impacting the coastline by then.)

Hellbound · 29th August 2006, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Stellafane

They sure assume a lot of west coast tectonic activity over the next 60+ years. (Personally, I think global warming has a better chance of visibly impacting the coastline by then.)

Well, you have to understand the setting.

Basically, magic comes "back" (it's discovered that magic exists, but ebbs and flows over history. MOdern history was in a "low-magic" time). OF course, most of us have no clue about it...but the various Native American tribes had kept the old rituals and such. So the earthquakes, volcanoes, etc were the result of the Native American tribes (along with the native tribes of Central America) getting together to practice a few rituals, and politely request that they get back their native lands.

It's an interesting game

Stellafane · 29th August 2006, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Huntsman

Well, you have to understand the setting.

Basically, magic comes "back" (it's discovered that magic exists, but ebbs and flows over history. MOdern history was in a "low-magic" time). OF course, most of us have no clue about it...but the various Native American tribes had kept the old rituals and such. So the earthquakes, volcanoes, etc were the result of the Native American tribes (along with the native tribes of Central America) getting together to practice a few rituals, and politely request that they get back their native lands.

It's an interesting game

Hmm, that actually makes more sense (in a weird way). As for the name of the combined supercountry of Canada, Mexico, and the U.S.A., I'd say that the chances of said country actually coming into being is about on par with it being named "Averyland."

Bandersnatch · 29th August 2006, 02:42 PM

Hey, my little hometown is on that map!

Horatius · 29th August 2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

Collective Republics of American Persuasion...(C.R.A.P.)

No good, Canada isn't a republic.....How about The Canmexica Regional Allied Populations?

T.A.M. · 29th August 2006, 03:35 PM

It'll do...cause it still spells CRAP...

29th August 2006, 11:55 AM	#1
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,541	NAFTA Superhighways Nuttiness? Uncle Fetzer often talks about this on his show and elsewhere; now I see that Pat Buchanan has picked up the torch. Quote: The American people never supported NAFTA, and they are angry over Bush's failure to secure the border -- but a shotgun marriage between our two nations appears prearranged. Central feature: a ten-lane, 400-yard-wide NAFTA Super Highway from the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, up to and across the U.S. border, all the way to Canada. Within the median strip dividing the north and south car and truck lanes would be rail lines for both passengers and freight traffic, and oil and gas pipelines. Buchanan brings in the merger of Canada, the US and Mexico, which he helpfully terms "Mexamerica". Fetzer likes to claim that this highway would "bifurcate the country" (as if, for example, Route 80 doesn't already). Anybody beeen following this story? I know crackpot Jerome Corsi has been pushing this hard at Human Events Online. Here's a good debate back and forth between Corsi and John Hawkins, the proprietor of Right Wing News (who doesn't buy the Mexamerica claims).
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29th August 2006, 12:25 PM	#4
DavidJames Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 7,116	Originally Posted by T.A.M. Hey, why does Buchanan leave Canada out of the name...no fair... how about Mexamerica, eh
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29th August 2006, 12:31 PM	#6
azazal Ninja Wave: Techno Ninja Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 374	Originally Posted by Huntsman Mexicanerica Cameca Amexican I could have fun with this for hours Yes, I'm easily amused! Leave me alone! Acanico... I always liked The North American Combine. Does this mean I can have my nuke flinging cyber tank now?
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29th August 2006, 12:46 PM	#7
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	Originally Posted by azazal I always liked The North American Combine. Does this mean I can have my nuke flinging cyber tank now? I'd prefer Courtesy The VITAS plague
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29th August 2006, 12:53 PM	#9
azazal Ninja Wave: Techno Ninja Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 374	Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade I'd prefer snip Courtesy The VITAS plague If so, I hope you have plenty of bug spray handy
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29th August 2006, 12:17 PM	#2
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Hey, why does Buchanan leave Canada out of the name...no fair... Canexica seems perfect... Or, also known as The United Countries of Canexica (UCC)

29th August 2006, 12:19 PM	#3
Hellbound Abiogenic Spongiform Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a handbasket Posts: 9,030	Originally Posted by T.A.M. Hey, why does Buchanan leave Canada out of the name...no fair... Canexica seems perfect... Or, also known as The United Countries of Canexica (UCC) Mexicanerica Cameca Amexican I could have fun with this for hours Yes, I'm easily amused! Leave me alone! Acanico...

29th August 2006, 12:30 PM	#5
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Collective Republics of American Persuasion...(C.R.A.P.)

29th August 2006, 12:51 PM	#8
Bandersnatch Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 411	He's already got as pegged as Soviet Canuckistan. The United Soviet Countries of Canexica, USCC?

29th August 2006, 12:55 PM	#10
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	Originally Posted by azazal If so, I hope you have plenty of bug spray handy I'm outside The Loop; I'll be fi...#@$@((@ <end transmission>
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29th August 2006, 12:56 PM	#11
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	ya me too...my part of North America is not even on the above map

29th August 2006, 12:59 PM	#12
Dog Town Hit me with music Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,481	There ain't enough guns on the planet to divide Texas! Don't Mess With TEXAS!
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29th August 2006, 01:05 PM	#13
Hellbound Abiogenic Spongiform Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a handbasket Posts: 9,030	Originally Posted by Dog Town There ain't enough guns on the planet to divide Texas! Don't Mess With TEXAS! Well, in that map, it wasn't guns. It was earthquakes, volcanoes, dragons, wizards, elementals, spirits, and other assorted mystical nastiness.

29th August 2006, 01:12 PM	#14
Dog Town Hit me with music Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,481	Originally Posted by Huntsman Well, in that map, it wasn't guns. It was earthquakes, volcanoes, dragons, wizards, elementals, spirits, and other assorted mystical nastiness. That was middle earth 2?
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29th August 2006, 01:14 PM	#15
azazal Ninja Wave: Techno Ninja Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 374	Originally Posted by Dog Town That was middle earth 2? http://www.shadowrunrpg.com/
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29th August 2006, 01:38 PM	#16
Stellafane Village Idiot. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Green Mountains Posts: 6,322	Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade I'd prefer... Courtesy The VITAS plague They sure assume a lot of west coast tectonic activity over the next 60+ years. (Personally, I think global warming has a better chance of visibly impacting the coastline by then.)

29th August 2006, 01:47 PM	#17
Hellbound Abiogenic Spongiform Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a handbasket Posts: 9,030	Originally Posted by Stellafane They sure assume a lot of west coast tectonic activity over the next 60+ years. (Personally, I think global warming has a better chance of visibly impacting the coastline by then.) Well, you have to understand the setting. Basically, magic comes "back" (it's discovered that magic exists, but ebbs and flows over history. MOdern history was in a "low-magic" time). OF course, most of us have no clue about it...but the various Native American tribes had kept the old rituals and such. So the earthquakes, volcanoes, etc were the result of the Native American tribes (along with the native tribes of Central America) getting together to practice a few rituals, and politely request that they get back their native lands. It's an interesting game

29th August 2006, 01:53 PM	#18
Stellafane Village Idiot. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Green Mountains Posts: 6,322	Originally Posted by Huntsman Well, you have to understand the setting. Basically, magic comes "back" (it's discovered that magic exists, but ebbs and flows over history. MOdern history was in a "low-magic" time). OF course, most of us have no clue about it...but the various Native American tribes had kept the old rituals and such. So the earthquakes, volcanoes, etc were the result of the Native American tribes (along with the native tribes of Central America) getting together to practice a few rituals, and politely request that they get back their native lands. It's an interesting game Hmm, that actually makes more sense (in a weird way). As for the name of the combined supercountry of Canada, Mexico, and the U.S.A., I'd say that the chances of said country actually coming into being is about on par with it being named "Averyland."

29th August 2006, 02:42 PM	#19
Bandersnatch Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 411	Hey, my little hometown is on that map!

29th August 2006, 03:13 PM	#20
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 22,028	Originally Posted by T.A.M. Collective Republics of American Persuasion...(C.R.A.P.) No good, Canada isn't a republic.....How about The Canmexica Regional Allied Populations?

29th August 2006, 03:35 PM	#21
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	It'll do...cause it still spells CRAP...