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Old 14th September 2006, 09:39 AM   #1
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More from Monday at GZ

I have posted more of a full write-up about Monday's experiences than my brief comments here on Tuesday:

http://www.debunk911myths.org/

With photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmf164/...7594278772438/

I don't want to say much more to dwell on this, as I know Saturday is coming up quick. I applaud Mark, Abby, and Reality Bites for showing up each weekend. I'll be sure to join you again from time-to-time, but thanks for being so dedicated.

In the meanwhile, I'm just pouring through materials and see if I can find anything new/different to post on my site regarding the various myths. (I don't like the word "my" - the site is setup with MediaWiki software which runs Wikipedia. Though, nobody can edit unless I specifically invite them, which is a possibility at some point.) I haven't taken a detailed look at Mark's site, or the other debunking sites. Want to avoid "group think", but can compare notes later.

Anyway, thanks again for the great work on Monday and every weekend.

-Kate
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Old 14th September 2006, 09:56 AM   #2
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Hey Kate,
Turns out that ain't JDX, it is Jon Gold from Conspiracy Smashers Blog.
Great work, thanks alot.
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Old 14th September 2006, 10:21 AM   #3
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Kate, on your site, the guy in the picture with the caption Old guy shouting at passerbys, standing in front of banner, “Bush regime engineered 9/11″ could that be Aaron Russo?
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Old 14th September 2006, 06:42 PM   #4
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Thanks, Kate, and well done.

Allow me to quote this poignant, telling excerpt from your site because I think it bears repeating:

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One particular heated confrontation was with Tom, a regular ny911truther there each week. Three weeks ago, he brought up the topic of Flight 93 and tried to argue that no body parts were found there. He gets this idea from Loose Change, which takes a quote out of context from Somerset County coroner, Wally Miller.

“I stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there” - Wally Miller, quoted in Loose Change

Of course, Wally wasn’t saying that a plane didn’t crash there, but it’s highly unlikely for entact bodies to survive the crash. Rather, body parts were torn into numerous small fragments:

“Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said the remains are expected to be so minute that radiology and DNA testing may be the only means of positively identifying the victims.” - Associated Press (September 12, 2001)

“We’ve been going through this area inch by inch. The remains are beginning to come,” said Somerset County coroner Wallace Miller. “It will be quite some time until we can identify whoever a person might be.” - Associated Press (September 13, 2001)

“Dennis Dirkmaat, a forensic pathologist from Mercyhurst College in Erie, Pa., said the remains had suffered “extreme fragmentation” and most would have to be identified through DNA analysis. He said experts also would use dental records, X-rays, and fingerprints and footprints.” - Washington Post (September 14, 2001)

“It would be nearly an hour before Miller came upon his first trace of a body part…some fragment of each of the dead had been positively identified, either by DNA or, in a few cases, fingerprints.” - Washington Post (May 12, 2002)

And aircraft debris:

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Anyway, three Saturdays ago, Mark showed Tom pictures of body parts at the Flight 93 crash scene. Mark also provided the coroner’s contact information, as well as contact information for others on the scene in Somerset County, so that Tom could talk to them himself. On Monday, Tom once again brought up the very same topic of Flight 93 and “no bodies”. Things got heated, with Mark putting Tom on the spot “Didn’t I show you pictures of body parts three weeks ago”. Being that it was 9/11, Mark didn’t want to stoop so low and bring out body part pictures. Tom had seen them and simply was being a disrepectful idiot crackpot.
I can't believe how appropriate the term '9/11 denier' is in Tom's case.

Again, thanks for the links and for being at GZ.
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Old 14th September 2006, 06:54 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Debunk911Myths View Post
I have posted more of a full write-up about Monday's experiences than my brief comments here on Tuesday:

http://www.debunk911myths.org/

With photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmf164/...7594278772438/

I don't want to say much more to dwell on this, as I know Saturday is coming up quick. I applaud Mark, Abby, and Reality Bites for showing up each weekend. I'll be sure to join you again from time-to-time, but thanks for being so dedicated.

In the meanwhile, I'm just pouring through materials and see if I can find anything new/different to post on my site regarding the various myths. (I don't like the word "my" - the site is setup with MediaWiki software which runs Wikipedia. Though, nobody can edit unless I specifically invite them, which is a possibility at some point.) I haven't taken a detailed look at Mark's site, or the other debunking sites. Want to avoid "group think", but can compare notes later.

Anyway, thanks again for the great work on Monday and every weekend.

-Kate
Thanks for the photos Kate as well as the diligent research on your site. Great work
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Old 14th September 2006, 10:43 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Kates Blog
We also ran into some news media folks from Australia. They told us, “they were here for the families and wanted nothing to do with them [the conspiracy theory nutjobs]”.
Sniff... I feel all patrioty right now.

I never realized our journo's could be so... sensible!
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Old 14th September 2006, 11:03 PM   #7
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Thank you, Kate.
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