Forum Party?

Luciana · 23rd September 2006, 03:05 PM

Traditionally, it happens on Saturday.

But does the Riviera have a place for us? At the Stardust, who by Jan will be only dust, there was a two-room handing out area, with a restroom and sofas.

Is there anything similar at the Riviera?

There is the Peppermill, which is nice, but might be packed on a Saturday. Or if anyone will think of something else, another location, just say it!

The Central Scrutinizer · 23rd September 2006, 04:02 PM

No, not the Peppermill!!!

It needs to be in a room of some sort, to allow for mingling.

SkepticScott · 23rd September 2006, 07:44 PM

I agree with Scrut. A room would be better for mingling.

I'm sure wel'll have a hospitality suite at the Riviera.

Linda · 23rd September 2006, 08:47 PM

I'll check this week with the Riviera and see if we're able to get a hospitality suite.
And if anyone is waiting to make their room reservations, please do so quickly, as our block is way undersold and I'm trying to reduce our committment for rooms. I understand the Riviera is undercutting our group rate through some other online specials which is really hurting us. Unfortunately I can't get credit for any rooms booked through anything other than our group code. We ran into this problem at the Stardust at a minor level, but the Stardust's cheaper rooms were the old villa rooms which were not nearly as nice as the West tower rooms. I don't know which rooms the Riviera is offering so I can't guarantee you're getting a better room with us than the cheaper internet specials.

mumchup · 23rd September 2006, 08:55 PM

Linda, I hadn't booked anything yet because I don't have the money for everything right away (I went on the Amaz!ing Cruise). Can I book the room with the group code even if I haven't registered for TAM yet? If that's the case I can get the room taken care of and then pay the TAM fee at a later date.

Ducky · 24th September 2006, 12:18 AM

This year I will be much more mobile than last at the forum party. I plan on drunken dancing with my pants on my head and maybe a lampshade. Who's gonna throw dollars at me?

CFLarsen · 24th September 2006, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by mumchup

Linda, I hadn't booked anything yet because I don't have the money for everything right away (I went on the Amaz!ing Cruise). Can I book the room with the group code even if I haven't registered for TAM yet? If that's the case I can get the room taken care of and then pay the TAM fee at a later date.

You can book your room w/o having registered. No problem.

Smart_Cookie · 24th September 2006, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by fowlsound

This year I will be much more mobile than last at the forum party. I plan on drunken dancing with my pants on my head and maybe a lampshade. Who's gonna throw dollars at me?

Sure thing. But...just so you're warned, Canadian dollars and $2 dollars are coins. They might hurt!!

You'd really have to be doing something special to rate a $5 bill.

rebecca · 24th September 2006, 12:47 PM

Once upon a time, Jeff mentioned something about a roof deck at the Riv. I wonder if that's still a possibility?

Kochanski · 24th September 2006, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by mumchup

Linda, I hadn't booked anything yet because I don't have the money for everything right away (I went on the Amaz!ing Cruise). Can I book the room with the group code even if I haven't registered for TAM yet? If that's the case I can get the room taken care of and then pay the TAM fee at a later date.

Mumchup, the Riviera is only taking first night charge ahead of time, the rest will be when you get to TAM. So, it shouldn't hit you too hard if you book your room now (I just booked mine).

mumchup · 24th September 2006, 01:47 PM

Thanks everyone. I'm going to get my reservations taken care of in the next couple of days.

VPescado · 24th September 2006, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Linda

I'll check this week with the Riviera and see if we're able to get a hospitality suite.
And if anyone is waiting to make their room reservations, please do so quickly, as our block is way undersold and I'm trying to reduce our committment for rooms. I understand the Riviera is undercutting our group rate through some other online specials which is really hurting us. Unfortunately I can't get credit for any rooms booked through anything other than our group code. We ran into this problem at the Stardust at a minor level, but the Stardust's cheaper rooms were the old villa rooms which were not nearly as nice as the West tower rooms. I don't know which rooms the Riviera is offering so I can't guarantee you're getting a better room with us than the cheaper internet specials.

Linda,

I did some digging. The Convention rate is for "Deluxe" rooms, whereas the other rates seem to be for "Standard rooms" (some websites say this explicitly, others don't mention the room type. The differences are described here.

Note that the different towers are segregated by room type, so if you don't get a "Deluxe" Room you will at the very least be in a different building.

So the conference rate is not a bad deal at all.

grayman · 24th September 2006, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Smart_Cookie

Sure thing. But...just so you're warned, Canadian dollars and $2 dollars are coins. They might hurt!!

You'd really have to be doing something special to rate a $5 bill.

Which is worth, what, 90 cents US?

Jas · 25th September 2006, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by rebecca

Once upon a time, Jeff mentioned something about a roof deck at the Riv. I wonder if that's still a possibility?

I seem to recall that as well, as it was one of the big pluses the Riv had over the Stardust.

Jas · 25th September 2006, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Linda

I'll check this week with the Riviera and see if we're able to get a hospitality suite.
And if anyone is waiting to make their room reservations, please do so quickly, as our block is way undersold and I'm trying to reduce our committment for rooms. I understand the Riviera is undercutting our group rate through some other online specials which is really hurting us. Unfortunately I can't get credit for any rooms booked through anything other than our group code. We ran into this problem at the Stardust at a minor level, but the Stardust's cheaper rooms were the old villa rooms which were not nearly as nice as the West tower rooms. I don't know which rooms the Riviera is offering so I can't guarantee you're getting a better room with us than the cheaper internet specials.

I saw that...WTF? What a sneaky thing to do. Bastages!

I haven't booked mine yet simply because I need to finalize the dates at work (within Oct, definitely.)

exarch · 27th September 2006, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer

No, not the Peppermill!!!

It needs to be in a room of some sort, to allow for mingling.

And to allow us to bring our own booze without getting dirty looks from the casino- and/or bar staff ...

Soapy Sam · 27th September 2006, 09:30 AM

When I googled the Riviera , I found rooms as low as $48.80, going up to $114 on weekends.The "Riviera Hotel" appears to comprise 4 entirely separate buildings and it's clear there is a profusion of different room types and specifications available.
I finally went with the convention rate. Maybe the facts about this could be made a bit clearer on the JREF booking page as I'm sure it's caused confusion.

HeyLeroy · 27th September 2006, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by fowlsound

This year I will be much more mobile than last at the forum party. I plan on drunken dancing with my pants on my head and maybe a lampshade. Who's gonna throw dollars at me?

Originally Posted by Smart_Cookie

Sure thing. But...just so you're warned, Canadian dollars and $2 dollars are coins. They might hurt!!

You'd really have to be doing something special to rate a $5 bill.

Note to self: pack a slingshot.

SkepticScott · 27th September 2006, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by HeyLeroy

Note to self: pack a slingshot.

Note to self: do not stand in the line of fire.

grayman · 28th September 2006, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by SkepticScott

Note to self: do not stand in the line of fire.

Beware the Loonies!

SkepticScott · 28th September 2006, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by grayman

Beware the Loonies!

Exactly. They look heavy enough to hurt.

exarch · 28th September 2006, 09:37 AM

Top speed of a coin in flight (terminal velocity) is about 65 mph according to The Mythbusters. Enough to hurt like hell and leave a bruise, not enough to break the skin or embed itself in your skull.

Just thought I'd throw that in

TJ · 28th September 2006, 09:47 AM

No skull-sticking? Weak, I don't even want to watch now.

SkepticScott · 28th September 2006, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by exarch

Top speed of a coin in flight (terminal velocity) is about 65 mph according to The Mythbusters.

They tested pennies, didn't they, not all coins.

grayman · 28th September 2006, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by exarch

Top speed of a coin in flight (terminal velocity) is about 65 mph according to The Mythbusters. Enough to hurt like hell and leave a bruise, not enough to break the skin or embed itself in your skull.

Yes, but the coins they used were dropped, not propelled by slingshot.

AK-Dave · 28th September 2006, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by exarch

Top speed of a coin in flight (terminal velocity) is about 65 mph according to The Mythbusters. Enough to hurt like hell and leave a bruise, not enough to break the skin or embed itself in your skull.

Just thought I'd throw that in

Top speed in flight does not equal terminal velocity. The terminal velocity (where gravity acceleration is cancelled out by air resistance) of a .44 magnum bullet is something like 200mph. The top speed of the same bullet as it leaves the barrel is roughly 1300mph (1900fps). Or, to put it in WTC CT terms, you are confusing heat with temperature.

CFLarsen · 28th September 2006, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by AK-Dave

The terminal velocity (where gravity acceleration is cancelled out by air resistance)

......isn't "terminal velocity" the speed with which an object kills?

Smart_Cookie · 28th September 2006, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by SkepticScott

Exactly. They look heavy enough to hurt.

Imagine carrying around a pocket full of them!

exarch · 29th September 2006, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by grayman

Yes, but the coins they used were dropped, not propelled by slingshot.

Ehm, yes they were. OK, it wasn't a slingshot, it was a specially built coin-gun.

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

......isn't "terminal velocity" the speed with which an object kills?

I thought terminal velocity was the speed with which an object hits the ground, which is usually the maximum speed it can attain before wind/air resistance slows it down again.

Originally Posted by AK-Dave

Top speed in flight does not equal terminal velocity. The terminal velocity (where gravity acceleration is cancelled out by air resistance) of a .44 magnum bullet is something like 200mph. The top speed of the same bullet as it leaves the barrel is roughly 1300mph (1900fps). Or, to put it in WTC CT terms, you are confusing heat with temperature.

Bullets are aerodynamic, plus they have rotation to keep them right side forward when fired from a barrel (i.e. in an optimal aerodynamic situation), which they do not when they are simply being dropped. (They may rotate slightly but will usually be falling sideways)
To the best of my knowledge, slingshots do not have rifling, nor do coins dropped or shot from a slingshot have any useful rotation going for them to reduce wind resistance and increase speed. So unlike bullets, the top speed for coins is the same as their terminal velocity (which varies, but averages at about 65mph).

Anyway, I thought this was a thread about partying?

exarch · 29th September 2006, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by AK-Dave

Top speed in flight does not equal terminal velocity. The terminal velocity (where gravity acceleration is cancelled out by air resistance) of a .44 magnum bullet is something like 200mph. The top speed of the same bullet as it leaves the barrel is roughly 1300mph (1900fps). Or, to put it in WTC CT terms, you are confusing heat with temperature.

I will concede that it's possible to give the coin much more initial speed. So you're right, top speed is not the same as terminal velocity.

Now go find me a slingshot that can propel a coin to speeds upwards of 65mph and I'll buy you a beer. Otherwise, shut up

The comment was a simple interjection about coins causing injuries, not about bullets in flight.

CFLarsen · 29th September 2006, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by exarch

I thought terminal velocity was the speed with which an object hits the ground, which is usually the maximum speed it can attain before wind/air resistance slows it down again.

It. Was. A. Joke.

rebecca · 29th September 2006, 07:51 AM

I love that you nerds turned a thread about a party into a debate over currency aerodynamics.

ImaginalDisc · 29th September 2006, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by rebecca

I love that you nerds turned a thread about a party into a debate over currency aerodynamics.

Shh, we're building a coin catapult out of chocolate bricks in the shape of people's avatars. You'll distract us.

Damn. Chocolate slide rules and protractors are so messy.

SkepticScott · 29th September 2006, 08:33 AM

You know, if we made a chocolate catapult out of coins, we'd have a line of people willing to try to catch the projectiles.

Does anyone know what the terminal velocity of a Godiva chocolate bar is?

ImaginalDisc · 29th September 2006, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by SkepticScott

You know, if we made a chocolate catapult out of coins, we'd have a line of people willing to try to catch the projectiles.

Does anyone know what the terminal velocity of a Godiva chocolate bar is?

*Begins melting the chocolate bricks down* Your idea is much better.

SkepticScott · 29th September 2006, 08:45 AM

The coinapult is dead, long live the chocapult!

Luciana · 29th September 2006, 10:42 AM

Btw... I'm here thinking of a plan to spice up the Forum Party a lil bit. More on that later.

KingMerv00 · 29th September 2006, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Luciana Nery

Btw... I'm here thinking of a plan to spice up the Forum Party a lil bit. More on that later.

I'm no good at strip poker.

tkingdoll · 29th September 2006, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by KingMerv00

I'm no good at strip poker.

That's why we want to play it with you

Luciana · 29th September 2006, 11:27 AM

Nooo, KingMerv... I'll contact more ladies this weekend, and then we will let you know. It's all about FUN!

23rd September 2006, 03:05 PM	#1
Luciana Skeptical Carioca Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,950	Forum Party? Traditionally, it happens on Saturday. But does the Riviera have a place for us? At the Stardust, who by Jan will be only dust, there was a two-room handing out area, with a restroom and sofas. Is there anything similar at the Riviera? There is the Peppermill, which is nice, but might be packed on a Saturday. Or if anyone will think of something else, another location, just say it!
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23rd September 2006, 04:02 PM	#2
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,264	No, not the Peppermill!!! It needs to be in a room of some sort, to allow for mingling.
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23rd September 2006, 07:44 PM	#3
SkepticScott TAM Volunteer Guy Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: North of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 2,885	I agree with Scrut. A room would be better for mingling. I'm sure wel'll have a hospitality suite at the Riviera.
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23rd September 2006, 08:47 PM	#4
Linda Former JREF Goddess Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In retirement Posts: 793	Hospitality suite I'll check this week with the Riviera and see if we're able to get a hospitality suite. And if anyone is waiting to make their room reservations, please do so quickly, as our block is way undersold and I'm trying to reduce our committment for rooms. I understand the Riviera is undercutting our group rate through some other online specials which is really hurting us. Unfortunately I can't get credit for any rooms booked through anything other than our group code. We ran into this problem at the Stardust at a minor level, but the Stardust's cheaper rooms were the old villa rooms which were not nearly as nice as the West tower rooms. I don't know which rooms the Riviera is offering so I can't guarantee you're getting a better room with us than the cheaper internet specials.
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24th September 2006, 12:22 AM	#7
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by mumchup Linda, I hadn't booked anything yet because I don't have the money for everything right away (I went on the Amaz!ing Cruise). Can I book the room with the group code even if I haven't registered for TAM yet? If that's the case I can get the room taken care of and then pay the TAM fee at a later date. You can book your room w/o having registered. No problem.
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23rd September 2006, 08:55 PM	#5
mumchup Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Dictyoptera Posts: 1,325	Linda, I hadn't booked anything yet because I don't have the money for everything right away (I went on the Amaz!ing Cruise). Can I book the room with the group code even if I haven't registered for TAM yet? If that's the case I can get the room taken care of and then pay the TAM fee at a later date.

24th September 2006, 12:18 AM	#6
Ducky Titanium Puprhero Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mayor of your front lawn. Posts: 12,296	This year I will be much more mobile than last at the forum party. I plan on drunken dancing with my pants on my head and maybe a lampshade. Who's gonna throw dollars at me?

24th September 2006, 12:25 PM	#8
Smart_Cookie Muse Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: five minutes behind everyone else Posts: 889	Originally Posted by fowlsound This year I will be much more mobile than last at the forum party. I plan on drunken dancing with my pants on my head and maybe a lampshade. Who's gonna throw dollars at me? Sure thing. But...just so you're warned, Canadian dollars and $2 dollars are coins. They might hurt!! You'd really have to be doing something special to rate a $5 bill.
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24th September 2006, 12:47 PM	#9
rebecca Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6,852	Once upon a time, Jeff mentioned something about a roof deck at the Riv. I wonder if that's still a possibility?
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24th September 2006, 01:06 PM	#10
Kochanski Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Anonymous Unimportant Place (not a secret Scorpion training facility for Shosuro ninjas) Posts: 2,656	Originally Posted by mumchup Linda, I hadn't booked anything yet because I don't have the money for everything right away (I went on the Amaz!ing Cruise). Can I book the room with the group code even if I haven't registered for TAM yet? If that's the case I can get the room taken care of and then pay the TAM fee at a later date. Mumchup, the Riviera is only taking first night charge ahead of time, the rest will be when you get to TAM. So, it shouldn't hit you too hard if you book your room now (I just booked mine).
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24th September 2006, 01:47 PM	#11
mumchup Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Dictyoptera Posts: 1,325	Thanks everyone. I'm going to get my reservations taken care of in the next couple of days.

24th September 2006, 07:42 PM	#12
VPescado DELAYED DUE TO A TRAIN DERAILMENT Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a nasty shoebox on the wrong side of the tracks about a half hour South of San Francisco Posts: 216	Originally Posted by Linda I'll check this week with the Riviera and see if we're able to get a hospitality suite. And if anyone is waiting to make their room reservations, please do so quickly, as our block is way undersold and I'm trying to reduce our committment for rooms. I understand the Riviera is undercutting our group rate through some other online specials which is really hurting us. Unfortunately I can't get credit for any rooms booked through anything other than our group code. We ran into this problem at the Stardust at a minor level, but the Stardust's cheaper rooms were the old villa rooms which were not nearly as nice as the West tower rooms. I don't know which rooms the Riviera is offering so I can't guarantee you're getting a better room with us than the cheaper internet specials. Linda, I did some digging. The Convention rate is for "Deluxe" rooms, whereas the other rates seem to be for "Standard rooms" (some websites say this explicitly, others don't mention the room type. The differences are described here. Note that the different towers are segregated by room type, so if you don't get a "Deluxe" Room you will at the very least be in a different building. So the conference rate is not a bad deal at all.

24th September 2006, 09:31 PM	#13
grayman Happy-go-lucky Heretic Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Casa del Whacko Posts: 6,142	Originally Posted by Smart_Cookie Sure thing. But...just so you're warned, Canadian dollars and $2 dollars are coins. They might hurt!! You'd really have to be doing something special to rate a $5 bill. Which is worth, what, 90 cents US?
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25th September 2006, 09:44 PM	#14
Jas Queen Skankarella of Ho Nation Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,845	Originally Posted by rebecca Once upon a time, Jeff mentioned something about a roof deck at the Riv. I wonder if that's still a possibility? I seem to recall that as well, as it was one of the big pluses the Riv had over the Stardust.
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25th September 2006, 09:46 PM	#15
Jas Queen Skankarella of Ho Nation Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,845	Originally Posted by Linda I'll check this week with the Riviera and see if we're able to get a hospitality suite. And if anyone is waiting to make their room reservations, please do so quickly, as our block is way undersold and I'm trying to reduce our committment for rooms. I understand the Riviera is undercutting our group rate through some other online specials which is really hurting us. Unfortunately I can't get credit for any rooms booked through anything other than our group code. We ran into this problem at the Stardust at a minor level, but the Stardust's cheaper rooms were the old villa rooms which were not nearly as nice as the West tower rooms. I don't know which rooms the Riviera is offering so I can't guarantee you're getting a better room with us than the cheaper internet specials. I saw that...WTF? What a sneaky thing to do. Bastages! I haven't booked mine yet simply because I need to finalize the dates at work (within Oct, definitely.)
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27th September 2006, 06:31 AM	#16
exarch Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Beyond redemption Posts: 7,225	Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer No, not the Peppermill!!! It needs to be in a room of some sort, to allow for mingling. And to allow us to bring our own booze without getting dirty looks from the casino- and/or bar staff ...
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27th September 2006, 09:30 AM	#17
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,885	When I googled the Riviera , I found rooms as low as $48.80, going up to $114 on weekends.The "Riviera Hotel" appears to comprise 4 entirely separate buildings and it's clear there is a profusion of different room types and specifications available. I finally went with the convention rate. Maybe the facts about this could be made a bit clearer on the JREF booking page as I'm sure it's caused confusion.
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27th September 2006, 06:02 PM	#18
HeyLeroy Vegan Cannibal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Going off the rails on the Crazy Train. Posts: 5,565	Originally Posted by fowlsound This year I will be much more mobile than last at the forum party. I plan on drunken dancing with my pants on my head and maybe a lampshade. Who's gonna throw dollars at me? Originally Posted by Smart_Cookie Sure thing. But...just so you're warned, Canadian dollars and $2 dollars are coins. They might hurt!! You'd really have to be doing something special to rate a $5 bill. Note to self: pack a slingshot.
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27th September 2006, 06:19 PM	#19
SkepticScott TAM Volunteer Guy Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: North of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 2,885	Originally Posted by HeyLeroy Note to self: pack a slingshot. Note to self: do not stand in the line of fire.
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28th September 2006, 08:34 AM	#20
grayman Happy-go-lucky Heretic Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Casa del Whacko Posts: 6,142	Originally Posted by SkepticScott Note to self: do not stand in the line of fire. Beware the Loonies!
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28th September 2006, 09:37 AM	#21
SkepticScott TAM Volunteer Guy Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: North of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 2,885	Originally Posted by grayman Beware the Loonies! Exactly. They look heavy enough to hurt.
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28th September 2006, 09:47 AM	#23
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28th September 2006, 10:03 AM	#24
SkepticScott TAM Volunteer Guy Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: North of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 2,885	Originally Posted by exarch Top speed of a coin in flight (terminal velocity) is about 65 mph according to The Mythbusters. They tested pennies, didn't they, not all coins.
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28th September 2006, 10:47 AM	#25
grayman Happy-go-lucky Heretic Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Casa del Whacko Posts: 6,142	Originally Posted by exarch Top speed of a coin in flight (terminal velocity) is about 65 mph according to The Mythbusters. Enough to hurt like hell and leave a bruise, not enough to break the skin or embed itself in your skull. Yes, but the coins they used were dropped, not propelled by slingshot.
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28th September 2006, 01:13 PM	#26
AK-Dave Muse Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alaska Posts: 576	Originally Posted by exarch Top speed of a coin in flight (terminal velocity) is about 65 mph according to The Mythbusters. Enough to hurt like hell and leave a bruise, not enough to break the skin or embed itself in your skull. Just thought I'd throw that in Top speed in flight does not equal terminal velocity. The terminal velocity (where gravity acceleration is cancelled out by air resistance) of a .44 magnum bullet is something like 200mph. The top speed of the same bullet as it leaves the barrel is roughly 1300mph (1900fps). Or, to put it in WTC CT terms, you are confusing heat with temperature.
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28th September 2006, 01:46 PM	#27
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by AK-Dave The terminal velocity (where gravity acceleration is cancelled out by air resistance) ......isn't "terminal velocity" the speed with which an object kills?
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28th September 2006, 04:23 PM	#28
Smart_Cookie Muse Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: five minutes behind everyone else Posts: 889	Originally Posted by SkepticScott Exactly. They look heavy enough to hurt. Imagine carrying around a pocket full of them!
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29th September 2006, 06:30 AM	#29
exarch Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Beyond redemption Posts: 7,225	Originally Posted by grayman Yes, but the coins they used were dropped, not propelled by slingshot. Ehm, yes they were. OK, it wasn't a slingshot, it was a specially built coin-gun. Originally Posted by CFLarsen ......isn't "terminal velocity" the speed with which an object kills? I thought terminal velocity was the speed with which an object hits the ground, which is usually the maximum speed it can attain before wind/air resistance slows it down again. Originally Posted by AK-Dave Top speed in flight does not equal terminal velocity. The terminal velocity (where gravity acceleration is cancelled out by air resistance) of a .44 magnum bullet is something like 200mph. The top speed of the same bullet as it leaves the barrel is roughly 1300mph (1900fps). Or, to put it in WTC CT terms, you are confusing heat with temperature. Bullets are aerodynamic, plus they have rotation to keep them right side forward when fired from a barrel (i.e. in an optimal aerodynamic situation), which they do not when they are simply being dropped. (They may rotate slightly but will usually be falling sideways) To the best of my knowledge, slingshots do not have rifling, nor do coins dropped or shot from a slingshot have any useful rotation going for them to reduce wind resistance and increase speed. So unlike bullets, the top speed for coins is the same as their terminal velocity (which varies, but averages at about 65mph). Anyway, I thought this was a thread about partying?
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29th September 2006, 06:37 AM	#30
exarch Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Beyond redemption Posts: 7,225	Originally Posted by AK-Dave Top speed in flight does not equal terminal velocity. The terminal velocity (where gravity acceleration is cancelled out by air resistance) of a .44 magnum bullet is something like 200mph. The top speed of the same bullet as it leaves the barrel is roughly 1300mph (1900fps). Or, to put it in WTC CT terms, you are confusing heat with temperature. I will concede that it's possible to give the coin much more initial speed. So you're right, top speed is not the same as terminal velocity. Now go find me a slingshot that can propel a coin to speeds upwards of 65mph and I'll buy you a beer. Otherwise, shut up The comment was a simple interjection about coins causing injuries, not about bullets in flight.
	__________________ Naturalhealth: Helios are one of the largest homeopathic pharmacies in England. They have their reputation to consider, so it is just not worth their while doing anything that would destroy that. Rest assured, all their remedies are exactly what they say they are. There are also ways of testing the remedies too, so that you could distinguish them from just pure tap water. QAman: How can this be done? I presume you mean testing of the lower dilution remedies? Naturalhealth: No. This can be done for all remedies. __________________ Luciana is perhaps one of the sweetest people I've ever met. I will stand behind her till I drop dead. If you want to **** with her, you better understand you have to go through me first -- MoeFaux

29th September 2006, 07:36 AM	#31
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by exarch I thought terminal velocity was the speed with which an object hits the ground, which is usually the maximum speed it can attain before wind/air resistance slows it down again. It. Was. A. Joke.
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29th September 2006, 07:51 AM	#32
rebecca Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6,852	I love that you nerds turned a thread about a party into a debate over currency aerodynamics.
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29th September 2006, 07:59 AM	#33
ImaginalDisc Proactive Untwister of Octagonal Hippopotamus Pants Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 10,225	Originally Posted by rebecca I love that you nerds turned a thread about a party into a debate over currency aerodynamics. Shh, we're building a coin catapult out of chocolate bricks in the shape of people's avatars. You'll distract us. Damn. Chocolate slide rules and protractors are so messy.
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29th September 2006, 08:33 AM	#34
SkepticScott TAM Volunteer Guy Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: North of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 2,885	You know, if we made a chocolate catapult out of coins, we'd have a line of people willing to try to catch the projectiles. Does anyone know what the terminal velocity of a Godiva chocolate bar is?
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29th September 2006, 08:41 AM	#35
ImaginalDisc Proactive Untwister of Octagonal Hippopotamus Pants Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 10,225	Originally Posted by SkepticScott You know, if we made a chocolate catapult out of coins, we'd have a line of people willing to try to catch the projectiles. Does anyone know what the terminal velocity of a Godiva chocolate bar is? Begins melting the chocolate bricks down Your idea is much better.
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29th September 2006, 08:45 AM	#36
SkepticScott TAM Volunteer Guy Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: North of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 2,885	The coinapult is dead, long live the chocapult!
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