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Old 28th September 2006, 06:16 AM   #1
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Stupid CTs

This thread is inspired by the hydrogen bombs brought down the twin towers idea which is discussed in this thread:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=64877

so the question I want to ask is what's the most stupid (or at least unbelievably strange) conspiracy theory/or part of a conspiracy theory you've ever come across?

Now obviously this is a rich field but I'm hoping for some surprises. As for me I think the twin towers hydrogen bombs idea has to be the winner, although a number of David Icke's theories do run it very close.
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Old 28th September 2006, 06:23 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Mid View Post
This thread is inspired by the hydrogen bombs brought down the twin towers idea which is discussed in this thread:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=64877

so the question I want to ask is what's the most stupid (or at least unbelievably strange) conspiracy theory/or part of a conspiracy theory you've ever come across?

Now obviously this is a rich field but I'm hoping for some surprises. As for me I think the twin towers hydrogen bombs idea has to be the winner, although a number of David Icke's theories do run it very close.
Why do you split a running discussion? Letīs see what the results are...

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Old 28th September 2006, 06:29 AM   #3
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To me, it had to be Morgan Reynolds suggesting that the Onion's single-plane theory ought to be looked at seriously. That still makes me giggle.
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Old 28th September 2006, 06:35 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Oliver View Post
Why do you split a running discussion? Letīs see what the results are...

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Well I thought that one seemed mainly focused on 9/11 I wanted to broaden it a bit
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Old 28th September 2006, 06:41 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Mid View Post
Well I thought that one seemed mainly focused on 9/11 I wanted to broaden it a bit
And i think that youīre an important person to the real truth-movement. You just need a littlebit more patience to wait how the coneversations goes. But donīt bother - i had the same patience-problems when i started.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=63545
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Old 28th September 2006, 06:53 AM   #6
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I'm rather fond of some of the Princess Diana CTs.

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"Within the New World Order faction there are smaller, warring factions, exemplified by Rothschilds vs. Rockefellers. The plan of the New World Order faction was to marry Lady Diana to an American. Even though Bill Clinton has bastard roots in the Rockefeller clan, he is rejected by them and is aligned with the Rothschilds. Bill Clinton was the designated future husband for Lady Diana, with Hillary Clinton to be eliminated through divorce or even murder. The Rockefellers were furious; in no way would they allow a marriage between Bill Clinton and Lady Diana.

"But Lady Di refused to marry Bill Clinton and seemed inclined to marry Dodi, thus also marrying into the Saudi royal family; for this impropriety, MI6 (British Intelligence) decided to eliminate her.
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Old 28th September 2006, 07:07 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson View Post
I'm rather fond of some of the Princess Diana CTs.
Hey! I thought you are the neutral voice in here, Lisa...
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Old 28th September 2006, 08:08 AM   #8
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I'm sorry-
I have to report this thread to the department of redundent repetitions dept.
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Old 28th September 2006, 08:17 AM   #9
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I'm sorry-
I have to report this thread to the department of redundent repetitions dept.
Oh I don't know sure complete (even beyond the usual CT stuff) idiocies like the no planes 9/11 theory have been covered before, but there's so many strange ones out there like the one quoted by Lisa S that I'd certainly never heard of before. And even if people do mention things that's been covered before like no planes etc. they still engender in me a sense of bewilderment when I here them again.
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Old 28th September 2006, 08:17 AM   #10
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UFO's were responsible for 9/11

Invisible Bombs were put into 2 110 story buildings and a 47 floor builidng for demolition without the 20,000 plus people who work there noticing anything a bit strange.

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The no-planers. Still, for me, without a doubt the craziest, denial of evidence whackjobs to confront.
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Old 28th September 2006, 08:56 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade View Post
The no-planers. Still, for me, without a doubt the craziest, denial of evidence whackjobs to confront.
Wrong.

Nothing beats the water conspiracy. It's got Jews, NeoNazis, nanotechnology, Yoga, qigong masters, alchemy, and aquovation!!!!
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Old 28th September 2006, 09:19 AM   #13
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Wow, post 27 of that thread is just...wow!!!
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Old 28th September 2006, 09:26 AM   #14
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Look's like Abby's got a real frothing one on her blog.
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Old 28th September 2006, 09:35 AM   #15
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Wow, post 27 of that thread is just...wow!!!
Duly noted on post #14 here.

In the water conspiracy thread on U-M, I actually tried to execute a point-by-point breakdown of this epic post....and failed miserably.
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Old 28th September 2006, 09:41 AM   #16
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Sweet Allah, WTF?
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Old 28th September 2006, 09:48 AM   #17
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In my opinion, the Chemtrail Conspiracy is about the most brain-dead. I would have thought that only the most schizophrenic people could possibly buy into it, but Dylan Avery has made some chemtrail-friendly comments in the LC Forum. Dylan is gullible, but he's not a raving delusional schizoid, at least. Fetzer, on the other hand...
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Originally Posted by TK0001 View Post
Duly noted on post #14

In the water conspiracy thread on U-M, I actually tried to execute a point-by-point breakdown of this epic post....and failed miserably.
I don't know, I think Cristophera's posts on his blog about 22's following him is a hair crazier than this one.

Though it is argueable.

But I guess where Cristophera's is at least entertaining, the water post is just way out there cuckoo for cocoapuffs.
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Old 28th September 2006, 11:21 AM   #19
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#27 of that one takes the cake
It's as if he mixed up random words in a hat, pulled them out, and made a conspiracy out of them.
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We obviously need to bring "Lovelynice", Truthseeker1040, Sir Knight and Christophera together...



...and then evacuate the area for a 100 mile radius.
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Old 28th September 2006, 11:45 AM   #21
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Sweet Allah, WTF?
Originally Posted by Lovelynice
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Oh, pleeeeease! You have GOT TO BE KIDDING! A BLOG cited as a credible source?!

What drugs are you on??
This the best. Yeah, I'm glad the deniers never cite their troofer websites as source

Who is this stupid kid anywho? Roxdog?
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How the exploding-nukes-on-jupiter-in-secret nutter?
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This the best. Yeah, I'm glad the deniers never cite their troofer websites as source
His cut and paste 'debunking' of the implosionworld article was particularly laughable: A bunch of answers that boil down to: OH YEAH?! I DON'T THINK SO! SO THERE!
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Old 28th September 2006, 02:59 PM   #24
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Funny is that Abby's blog entry was about deniers counter arguments being like "f#@ you @hole!"

And it's exactly what this LoonyNoise is doing. Sarcasm?

btw, who's telescopemerc? He's on here as well?
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Funny is that Abby's blog entry was about deniers counter arguments being like "f#@ you @hole!"

And it's exactly what this LoonyNoise is doing. Sarcasm?

btw, who's telescopemerc? He's on here as well?
After that movie, I've become a sort of bug light for kooks.

Telescopemerc is the best. Buddies of mine with no interest in physics what so ever, love that dude. Don't think he's here, but he posts at conspiracysmasher and screwloosechange.
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After that movie, I've become a sort of bug light for kooks.

Telescopemerc is the best. Buddies of mine with no interest in physics what so ever, love that dude. Don't think he's here, but he posts at conspiracysmasher and screwloosechange.
*cough*
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*cough*
Must've swallowed a bug.
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Have just been writing a bit about David Shayler. The bizarre thing about his CT is not just his (alleged) belief in Icke's multidimensional lizard aliens, but that he issues a very strong (somewhat paranoid-sounding) denial of this, accusing SchNEWS of "spreading inaccuracies which work in the interests of this shadow elite at the very time we should be uniting to expose this evil". OK, he's denied this report of his statements (which SchNEWS still stand by) - but then Shayler goes on to argue that the planes we saw hitting the World Trade Center "were missiles surrounded by holograms made to look like planes...Watch the footage frame by frame and you will see a cigar-shaped missile hitting the World Trade Center".

Now, how do they work out the pecking order of nuttiness here? How does one decide that they should deny saying that aliens did 9/11 - after all, you wouldn't want to come across as a nutter - but then expound one's well-reasoned belief in hologram-disguised missiles

This makes my head hurt. And got a horrible feeling I'll dream of lizards and holograms tonight

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I was going to say LovelyNice was an nesnys sockpuppet but there were no antisemetic diatribes.
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I was going to say LovelyNice was an nesnys sockpuppet but there were no antisemetic diatribes.
No, this guy has a barely hidden anti-American bias. His rants about 'the whole world knows 911 was an inside job' are amusing. He claims to speak for entire nations at a time.
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*cough*
Good show, Fokker!
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Hi jon, yes the David Shayler case is very strange, however after checking his wikipedia entry I see he attended Dundee University which explains a lot (I lecture there and I can tell you some of my students aren't entirely normal.)
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Good show, Fokker!
I'm getting tired. Its the same crap over and over again. Yeah, I know, what else is new in the CT world.
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Hi jon, yes the David Shayler case is very strange, however after checking his wikipedia entry I see he attended Dundee University which explains a lot (I lecture there and I can tell you some of my students aren't entirely normal.)
hmm - is there a higher rate of abnormality among dundee students than those at other universities
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I still think NESARA takes the cake. It's more of a financial scam than a conspiracy theory, but how stupid do you have to be to believe all this:

1. A super-secret "True NESARA law" was passed in Congress, but it is not being enforced because of a gag order, and/or the evil machinations of George W Bush and the Illuminati.

2. This True NESARA Law does all kinds of wonderful things: it forgives all debts, abolishes the IRS and all taxes, establishes a new worldwide monetary system (usually to take effect within 48-72 hours), abolishes the Federal Reserve, instantly establishes world peace, throws Bush out of office and calls for a new election, "re-establishes Constitutional law", ends all US military actions, and does other wonderful anti-NeoCon things depending on what's in the news at the moment.

3. Most importantly, NESARA allows the release of funds from "prosperity programs" such as Omega and its offshoots. What is Omega? Basically, a guy named Clyde Hood went to a bunch of churches in Illinois in 1994 and said "Howdy folks, there's a super-secret elite European banking group that I only have access to, so if y'all will just send me bricks of dollar bills wrapped in tinfoil, I'll make a deposit on your behalf and repay you a 5000% return within 275 days." And people believed him. Of course, the "investors" were never paid. He eventually admitted it was all a scam and went to jail around 2000. To this day, there are people who are still waiting for their "bank packets."

4. Bank packets will be delivered to all "prosperity program" investors, and other true believers of NESARA. This means that a FedEx truck will drive up to your house and give you a huge box filled of the rainbow-themed new currency called for in item #2 above.

5. The True NESARA Law was supposed to be announced on September 11th, 2001, and... well, you know the rest.

6. The only people who really know what's going on with NESARA are a rogue's gallery of kooks, flakes, and small-time scammers. Best known is Shaini Goodwin aka "Dove of Oneness", a middle-aged woman who types up Internet reports from her elderly mother's housetrailer in Yelm, Washington. Other NESARA prophets run the gamut from UFO abductees to Illuminati worshippers to anti-Zionist ranters. And of course, they all need your continued donations to fund their efforts to give you the latest NESARA news.

7. Every three weeks or so, one of these Cassandras announces that the absolute final irrevocable drop-dead date for NESARA announcement is coming soon. Of course, this date is always followed by a list of the-dog-ate-the-bank-packets type excuse about why it didn't happen. Usually, George Bush or the Illuminati or the Dark Forces intervene at the last minute to prevent the transaction from going forward. Sometimes the delay is blamed on real-world events that no one could have possibly foreseen, like hurricanes.

8. NESARA is always intertwined with New Age baloney. Channelers receive telepathic messages about NESARA from godlike space creatures, a la Nancy Lieder of Planet X fame (which, come to think of it, would be another candidate for dumbest conspiracy theory ever). Also, space aliens will actually land as part of the NESARA announcement; the world will become five-dimensional as part of the NESARA announcement; and, there's all the usual crap about crystals and auras.

To repeat my original question, how stupid do you have to be to believe ALL THIS?
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Nancy Lieder of Planet X fame (which, come to think of it, would be another candidate for dumbest conspiracy theory ever).
You mock now but won't you be sorry when the pole shift comes. Woooooo!!!!

By the way, is NESARA an acronym for something?
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Originally Posted by Triterope View Post
I still think NESARA takes the cake. It's more of a financial scam than a conspiracy theory, but how stupid do you have to be to believe all this:

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Erm, sounds like a great investment opportunity, what's the maximum I can put in?
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