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Muse
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Stupid CTs
This thread is inspired by the hydrogen bombs brought down the twin towers idea which is discussed in this thread:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=64877 so the question I want to ask is what's the most stupid (or at least unbelievably strange) conspiracy theory/or part of a conspiracy theory you've ever come across? Now obviously this is a rich field but I'm hoping for some surprises. As for me I think the twin towers hydrogen bombs idea has to be the winner, although a number of David Icke's theories do run it very close. |
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~The Rascal~
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To me, it had to be Morgan Reynolds suggesting that the Onion's single-plane theory ought to be looked at seriously. That still makes me giggle.
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~The Rascal~
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And i think that youīre an important person to the real truth-movement. You just need a littlebit more patience to wait how the coneversations goes. But donīt bother - i had the same patience-problems when i started.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=63545 |
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THE Lisa Simpson
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I'm rather fond of some of the Princess Diana CTs.
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~The Rascal~
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I'm sorry-
I have to report this thread to the department of redundent repetitions dept. |
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"Political correctness is a doctrine,...,which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." "I pointed out that his argument was wrong in every particular, but he rightfully took me to task for attacking only the weak points." Myriad http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=6853275#post6853275 |
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Muse
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Oh I don't know sure complete (even beyond the usual CT stuff) idiocies like the no planes 9/11 theory have been covered before, but there's so many strange ones out there like the one quoted by Lisa S that I'd certainly never heard of before. And even if people do mention things that's been covered before like no planes etc. they still engender in me a sense of bewilderment when I here them again.
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Illuminator
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UFO's were responsible for 9/11
Invisible Bombs were put into 2 110 story buildings and a 47 floor builidng for demolition without the 20,000 plus people who work there noticing anything a bit strange. Loose Change |
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NY Paramedic, skeptic, 9/11/01 Reality-ist. I am both right wing nut and left wing lunatic. Deal with it. |
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The no-planers. Still, for me, without a doubt the craziest, denial of evidence whackjobs to confront.
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Muse
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Muse
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Wow, post 27 of that thread is just...wow!!!
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In my opinion, the Chemtrail Conspiracy is about the most brain-dead. I would have thought that only the most schizophrenic people could possibly buy into it, but Dylan Avery has made some chemtrail-friendly comments in the LC Forum. Dylan is gullible, but he's not a raving delusional schizoid, at least. Fetzer, on the other hand...
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How the exploding-nukes-on-jupiter-in-secret nutter?
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Funny is that Abby's blog entry was about deniers counter arguments being like "f#@ you @hole!"
And it's exactly what this LoonyNoise is doing. Sarcasm? btw, who's telescopemerc? He's on here as well? |
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Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life. I♥NY You gotta love cops. |
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Thanks for helping me win Best Children's Gifts and Best Toys in Philly Voter in 2011 & 2012! Spectrum Scientifics - My store - Google it people! |
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"Please, keep your chops cool and dont overblow. Freddie Hubbard What's the Harm?........Stop Sylvia Browne........My 9/11 links |
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Have just been writing a bit about David Shayler. The bizarre thing about his CT is not just his (alleged) belief in Icke's multidimensional lizard aliens, but that he issues a very strong (somewhat paranoid-sounding) denial of this, accusing SchNEWS of "spreading inaccuracies which work in the interests of this shadow elite at the very time we should be uniting to expose this evil". OK, he's denied this report of his statements (which SchNEWS still stand by) - but then Shayler goes on to argue that the planes we saw hitting the World Trade Center "were missiles surrounded by holograms made to look like planes...Watch the footage frame by frame and you will see a cigar-shaped missile hitting the World Trade Center".
Now, how do they work out the pecking order of nuttiness here? How does one decide that they should deny saying that aliens did 9/11 - after all, you wouldn't want to come across as a nutter - but then expound one's well-reasoned belief in hologram-disguised missiles ![]() This makes my head hurt. And got a horrible feeling I'll dream of lizards and holograms tonight
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Muse
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I was going to say LovelyNice was an nesnys sockpuppet but there were no antisemetic diatribes.
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Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life. I♥NY You gotta love cops. |
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Muse
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Hi jon, yes the David Shayler case is very strange, however after checking his wikipedia entry I see he attended Dundee University which explains a lot (I lecture there and I can tell you some of my students aren't entirely normal.)
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Muse
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that's probably a good point
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Muse
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I still think NESARA takes the cake. It's more of a financial scam than a conspiracy theory, but how stupid do you have to be to believe all this:
1. A super-secret "True NESARA law" was passed in Congress, but it is not being enforced because of a gag order, and/or the evil machinations of George W Bush and the Illuminati. 2. This True NESARA Law does all kinds of wonderful things: it forgives all debts, abolishes the IRS and all taxes, establishes a new worldwide monetary system (usually to take effect within 48-72 hours), abolishes the Federal Reserve, instantly establishes world peace, throws Bush out of office and calls for a new election, "re-establishes Constitutional law", ends all US military actions, and does other wonderful anti-NeoCon things depending on what's in the news at the moment. 3. Most importantly, NESARA allows the release of funds from "prosperity programs" such as Omega and its offshoots. What is Omega? Basically, a guy named Clyde Hood went to a bunch of churches in Illinois in 1994 and said "Howdy folks, there's a super-secret elite European banking group that I only have access to, so if y'all will just send me bricks of dollar bills wrapped in tinfoil, I'll make a deposit on your behalf and repay you a 5000% return within 275 days." And people believed him. Of course, the "investors" were never paid. He eventually admitted it was all a scam and went to jail around 2000. To this day, there are people who are still waiting for their "bank packets." 4. Bank packets will be delivered to all "prosperity program" investors, and other true believers of NESARA. This means that a FedEx truck will drive up to your house and give you a huge box filled of the rainbow-themed new currency called for in item #2 above. 5. The True NESARA Law was supposed to be announced on September 11th, 2001, and... well, you know the rest. 6. The only people who really know what's going on with NESARA are a rogue's gallery of kooks, flakes, and small-time scammers. Best known is Shaini Goodwin aka "Dove of Oneness", a middle-aged woman who types up Internet reports from her elderly mother's housetrailer in Yelm, Washington. Other NESARA prophets run the gamut from UFO abductees to Illuminati worshippers to anti-Zionist ranters. And of course, they all need your continued donations to fund their efforts to give you the latest NESARA news. 7. Every three weeks or so, one of these Cassandras announces that the absolute final irrevocable drop-dead date for NESARA announcement is coming soon. Of course, this date is always followed by a list of the-dog-ate-the-bank-packets type excuse about why it didn't happen. Usually, George Bush or the Illuminati or the Dark Forces intervene at the last minute to prevent the transaction from going forward. Sometimes the delay is blamed on real-world events that no one could have possibly foreseen, like hurricanes. 8. NESARA is always intertwined with New Age baloney. Channelers receive telepathic messages about NESARA from godlike space creatures, a la Nancy Lieder of Planet X fame (which, come to think of it, would be another candidate for dumbest conspiracy theory ever). Also, space aliens will actually land as part of the NESARA announcement; the world will become five-dimensional as part of the NESARA announcement; and, there's all the usual crap about crystals and auras. To repeat my original question, how stupid do you have to be to believe ALL THIS? |
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Originally Posted by Triterope
By the way, is NESARA an acronym for something? |
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