Not only did we not go to the moon, it doesn't exist!

CptColumbo · 30th September 2006, 12:49 AM

http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm

bob_kark · 30th September 2006, 04:13 AM

No, you make a good point. If we went to the moon, where's all the cheese? Also, if a block of cheese that large existed, why can't we smell it? Obviously this was a plot devised by NWO Neanderthals for purposes so secret we may never know.

Mancman · 30th September 2006, 04:20 AM

Recently I looked into the sky and saw a full moon. Two weeks later - the moon was nowhere to be seen!

The hologram projectors must have been down that day - NWO busted!

qarnos · 30th September 2006, 04:43 AM

I suppose we are expected to believe that the Lunar cycle almost exactly coincides with the length of the Earth month?!!?!

Yeah, right. It's so obvious that the NWO is behind this.

Not that those stupid sheep JREFers will take any notice of this. They will run away to their little club and pretend it never happened.

Typical goverment shills.

ASK QUESTIONS - DEMAND ANSWERS!!!!

Bell · 30th September 2006, 08:11 AM

I've contacted my local NWO officer at the synagogue, he showed me a picture of the moon and he told me:

Quote:

Yes, the moon does exict. Now go back to work.
You schmuck.

So therefor I find this whole no-moon theory complete nonsense.

60hzxtl · 30th September 2006, 08:25 AM

Lunatics!

The moon is in a vacuum, that's why you can't smell it.

Everyone knows its a hemisphere, and that's what they did before animation.

bob_kark · 30th September 2006, 09:50 AM

So, you're saying we need to turn if from suck to blow?

mumchup · 30th September 2006, 10:46 AM

I've decided that the Moon Hoax is too pedestrian for my taste. I have decided instead to obsess over the Conpiracy of the Donut Holes. (mmm... delicious, delicious evidence...)

http://www.revisionism.nl/Donut/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm

HeyLeroy · 30th September 2006, 12:13 PM

Quote:

No photographs were ever taken of the moon until the 1850’s.

Can't argue with that logic.

Good find!

jsiv · 30th September 2006, 01:16 PM

If it was possible to go to the moon, wouldn't we have built moon bases by now?

Or is this a COINTELPRO/DISINFORMATION site designed to hide the fact that Space: 1999 was infact shot on location?

Big Al · 2nd October 2006, 05:40 AM

What really irritates me about the moon-hoax sites is that just about every single one of the claims (non-parallel shadows, backlighting, disappearing reseau marks, lethal radiation, etc., etc.) have been definitively debunked.

However, the believer sites STILL keep trotting them out!!!!

Bell · 2nd October 2006, 08:51 AM

That's because they keep on pointing to the 'evidence' on other conspiracy sites, not to skeptic sites where those claims are debunked.

They just don't want to listen to reason, but rather dwell in their own dillusions.

simonmaal · 2nd October 2006, 09:05 AM

This issue amazes (and amuses) me. Why do New Agers apply such rigorous skepticism towards the moon landings, but nevertheless swallow homoepathy, dowsing, energy healing, tarot readings and other such nonsense without carrying out any evaluation?

Why the hypocrisy?

Bell · 2nd October 2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by simonmaal

This issue amazes (and amuses) me. Why do New Agers apply such rigorous skepticism towards the moon landings, but nevertheless swallow homoepathy, dowsing, energy healing, tarot readings and other such nonsense without carrying out any evaluation?

Why the hypocrisy?

Is it true that new agers believe in the moon hoax? All new agers? I thought it where people from all walk of life (well, not quite, but you understand what I'm saying). Is it part of new age? And why?

simonmaal · 2nd October 2006, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Bell

Is it true that new agers believe in the moon hoax? All new agers? I thought it where people from all walk of life (well, not quite, but you understand what I'm saying). Is it part of new age? And why?

OK fair point (I hold my hands up

) I was using new agers as an example; of course not all of them will believe in the moon hoax. But I know a few who do argue that it was all a hoax, yet accept dowsing and homeopathy without doubt. The point I am making is that I'm confused that people tend to believe certain things without applying critical thought (if they fit with their current beliefs), yet are highly skeptical over things that do not match their belief system.

There seems to be a whole anti-establishment culture growing, of which new agers are but one variety. The medical establisment is one of their favourite targets:

http://www.wddty.co.uk/cms/content.asp?pageid=home

Josh Redstone · 2nd October 2006, 10:07 AM

Does a site like this even get taken seriously by moon landing conpsiracists? I mean, there are obviously a lot of people who believe in the moon-hoax simply because they haven't seen/don't want to see if evidence debunking these claims, but to deny the existence of the moon? That's a new level of ignorance that I think even a lot of CTist wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

.....why even deny the moon's existence anyway? Why not deny the sun's? "We're living in a giant biosphere and the sun is just a hologram" or something like that? Or, what about all the other planets and their moons? Sheesh.....

CptColumbo · 2nd October 2006, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Josh Redstone

Does a site like this even get taken seriously by moon landing conpsiracists? I mean, there are obviously a lot of people who believe in the moon-hoax simply because they haven't seen/don't want to see if evidence debunking these claims, but to deny the existence of the moon? That's a new level of ignorance that I think even a lot of CTist wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

.....why even deny the moon's existence anyway? Why not deny the sun's? "We're living in a giant biosphere and the sun is just a hologram" or something like that? Or, what about all the other planets and their moons? Sheesh.....

The site also denies the existence of Winnipeg.

thomps1d · 2nd October 2006, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by CptColumbo

The site also denies the existence of Winnipeg.

I have been to Winnipeg, but since I cannot definitively prove that I exist, I cannot prove that Winnipeg exists. I also cannot prove that this post exists.

I can, however, prove that you exist and have another browser open watching porn. Get back to work, you sicko.

Bell · 2nd October 2006, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by simonmaal

OK fair point (I hold my hands up

) I was using new agers as an example; of course not all of them will believe in the moon hoax. But I know a few who do argue that it was all a hoax, yet accept dowsing and homeopathy without doubt. The point I am making is that I'm confused that people tend to believe certain things without applying critical thought (if they fit with their current beliefs), yet are highly skeptical over things that do not match their belief system.

There seems to be a whole anti-establishment culture growing, of which new agers are but one variety. The medical establisment is one of their favourite targets:

http://www.wddty.co.uk/cms/content.asp?pageid=home

Ah, fair enough. I thought that maybe realy the new age people believe in the moan hoax. And I was courious as to why. Bit of misinterpretation on my side, I guess.

CptColumbo · 2nd October 2006, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by thomps1d

I have been to Winnipeg, but since I cannot definitively prove that I exist, I cannot prove that Winnipeg exists. I also cannot prove that this post exists.

I can, however, prove that you exist and have another browser open watching porn. Get back to work, you sicko.

(I slowly turn to make sure thomps1d is not behind me)

AAAAAHHH!!

Josh Redstone · 2nd October 2006, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by CptColumbo

The site also denies the existence of Winnipeg.

I don't know whether to laugh histerically, or call a mental hospital to get this guy some help

rwp · 2nd October 2006, 11:33 AM

After reading his pages and exploring a few links here and there, I discovered that the fellow is offering "a cash reward of $100,000" for proof of existence of the moon.

This cash reward "has been offered to anyone who can send us, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon. This reward remains unclaimed."

"Can you prove that the moon exists? Write to us at: madrev@reptiles.org

WOW! Sounds like easy money.

http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/Moon3.htm

simonmaal · 2nd October 2006, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by rwp

After reading his pages and exploring a few links here and there, I discovered that the fellow is offering "a cash reward of $100,000" for proof of existence of the moon.

This cash reward "has been offered to anyone who can send us, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon. This reward remains unclaimed."

"Can you prove that the moon exists? Write to us at: madrev@reptiles.org

WOW! Sounds like easy money.

http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/Moon3.htm

LOL. Getting my telescope out of the attic now...

rwp · 2nd October 2006, 11:48 AM

It seems there is a $100,000 award for proof of the existence of Winnipeg as well.

http://www.holocaust-history.org/~rjg/challenge.shtml

Bell · 2nd October 2006, 11:55 AM

You guys do understand that these two claims are a joke, not a hoax?

CptColumbo · 2nd October 2006, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Bell

You guys do understand that these two claims are a joke, not a hoax?

rwp · 2nd October 2006, 12:04 PM

dangit.

Bell · 2nd October 2006, 12:07 PM

I think, from reading some on that website, the $100,000 challenge is a spoof on:

Quote:

One of the mainstays of the Holocaust revisionist hypothesis has been John Ball's analysis of the aerial reconnaissance photographs taken over Auschwitz in 1944 and 1945. Ball purports to demonstrate two things in his analysis of these photographs: that the photographs prove that mass executions using poison gas did not occur at Auschwitz; and, that the aerial photographs were tampered with and altered before Dino Brugioni and Robert Poirier released their study of the photographs in 1979. John Ball is so confident of these claims that he has advertised a reward of $100,000 to anyone who can debunk them. As of the date of this writing, however, good faith efforts to take up Ball's challenge have been altogether futile.

In some of his claims about what the photographs tell us, Ball sometimes betrays a surprising ignorance of the broadly accepted historical accounts which he aims to debunk. For instance, Ball notes that the area surrounding Auschwitz-Birkenau was being farmed in August 1944, and he expects his readers to draw the conclusion that the visibility of the camp to outside observers meant that mass murder could not have occurred in the camp.Apparently, Ball does not know that the Auschwitz farms were within a much larger "Economic Zone" under the control of the SS and were worked with prisoner labour.

Despite the inadequacy of his historical knowledge about Auschwitz-Birkenau, Ball can lay claim to some expertise as an aerial photography analyst, and his theory that the aerial photographs have been tampered with cannot be dismissed so lightly. Ball is apparently so convinced by his theory that in March or April 1997 he added a $100,000 reward to his web page as follows:

[IMAGE: "$100,000 Reward"]

To Have Three Air Photo Experts Agree That:

1. The 3D Maps are not accurate copies of the air photos; or
2. Marks were not drawn on August 25, 1944 Auschwitz air photos, as shown in Evidence of Air Photo Tampering.

NOTE: Each expert has to submit a written report with conclusions. The three experts each need to state that one of the above two statements are true. The air photo expert's qualifications need approval by those seeking the reward, and by the author.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/ball-challenge/

Bell · 2nd October 2006, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by CptColumbo

Yep, I read your first spoiler, but I thought simonmaal and rpw where under the impression that it was real.

ETA: Damn! Did I just spoil your joke?

CptColumbo · 2nd October 2006, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Bell

Yep, I read your first spoiler, but I thought simonmaal and rpw where under the impression that it was real.

ETA: Damn! Did I just spoil your joke?

The thing I wonder is, how many have read it and agree with it?

Nah.

HeyLeroy · 2nd October 2006, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by rwp

After reading his pages and exploring a few links here and there, I discovered that the fellow is offering "a cash reward of $100,000" for proof of existence of the moon.

This cash reward "has been offered to anyone who can send us, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon. This reward remains unclaimed."

"Can you prove that the moon exists? Write to us at: madrev@reptiles.org

WOW! Sounds like easy money.

http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/Moon3.htm

Just sent him a moon-rock by e-mail. Bugger of a time getting the DVD tray to close.

First round's on me!

qarnos · 2nd October 2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Big Al

What really irritates me about the moon-hoax sites is that just about every single one of the claims (non-parallel shadows, backlighting, disappearing reseau marks, lethal radiation, etc., etc.) have been definitively debunked.

However, the believer sites STILL keep trotting them out!!!!

This reminds me of a radio debate between Phil Plait and some Moon hoax kook (forget his name).

The kook was questioning why no-one on the ground had taken photos of the space-craft enroute to The Moon.

Phil responded by saying he just did a quick Google and found hundreds of images of Apollo waste-dumps taken by amateurs.

The kook asked what the pictures looked like and Phil responded that they looked like expanding clouds of vapour.

The kooks response? "Oh yeah, and that would be really hard to fake!"

My question is, why do these guys ask for proof when they will just write it off as being part of the conspiracy, anyway?

Bell · 2nd October 2006, 02:18 PM

Duck!

And cover!

Josh Redstone · 2nd October 2006, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bell

You guys do understand that these two claims are a joke, not a hoax?

Heh. I just noticed that now

Man, do I ever feel silly

Bell · 2nd October 2006, 03:44 PM

But not this silly.

30th September 2006, 12:49 AM	#1
CptColumbo Just One More Question Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 9,130	Not only did we not go to the moon, it doesn't exist! http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm Yeah, I know it's a joke, but it's interesting the way they've used CT tactics.
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30th September 2006, 04:13 AM	#2
bob_kark Person of Hench Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Globalist H.Q., 25th floor, 5th room on the right. Posts: 4,113	No, you make a good point. If we went to the moon, where's all the cheese? Also, if a block of cheese that large existed, why can't we smell it? Obviously this was a plot devised by NWO Neanderthals for purposes so secret we may never know.
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30th September 2006, 04:20 AM	#3
Mancman Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,010	Recently I looked into the sky and saw a full moon. Two weeks later - the moon was nowhere to be seen! The hologram projectors must have been down that day - NWO busted!
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30th September 2006, 04:43 AM	#4
qarnos Cold-hearted skeptic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Melbourne, Austrylia Posts: 1,985	I suppose we are expected to believe that the Lunar cycle almost exactly coincides with the length of the Earth month?!!?! Yeah, right. It's so obvious that the NWO is behind this. Not that those stupid sheep JREFers will take any notice of this. They will run away to their little club and pretend it never happened. Typical goverment shills. ASK QUESTIONS - DEMAND ANSWERS!!!!
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30th September 2006, 08:11 AM	#5
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,478	I've contacted my local NWO officer at the synagogue, he showed me a picture of the moon and he told me: Quote: Yes, the moon does exict. Now go back to work. You schmuck. So therefor I find this whole no-moon theory complete nonsense.
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30th September 2006, 08:25 AM	#6
60hzxtl Muse Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 698	Lunatics! The moon is in a vacuum, that's why you can't smell it. Everyone knows its a hemisphere, and that's what they did before animation.
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30th September 2006, 09:50 AM	#7
bob_kark Person of Hench Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Globalist H.Q., 25th floor, 5th room on the right. Posts: 4,113	So, you're saying we need to turn if from suck to blow?
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30th September 2006, 10:46 AM	#8
mumchup Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Dictyoptera Posts: 1,325	I've decided that the Moon Hoax is too pedestrian for my taste. I have decided instead to obsess over the Conpiracy of the Donut Holes. (mmm... delicious, delicious evidence...) http://www.revisionism.nl/Donut/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm

30th September 2006, 12:13 PM	#9
HeyLeroy Vegan Cannibal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Going off the rails on the Crazy Train. Posts: 5,565	Quote: No photographs were ever taken of the moon until the 1850’s. Can't argue with that logic. Good find!
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30th September 2006, 01:16 PM	#10
jsiv King of Svalbard Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bortenfor alle blåner Posts: 4,492	If it was possible to go to the moon, wouldn't we have built moon bases by now? Or is this a COINTELPRO/DISINFORMATION site designed to hide the fact that Space: 1999 was infact shot on location?

2nd October 2006, 05:40 AM	#11
Big Al Mage Questor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: La-la Land Posts: 827	What really irritates me about the moon-hoax sites is that just about every single one of the claims (non-parallel shadows, backlighting, disappearing reseau marks, lethal radiation, etc., etc.) have been definitively debunked. However, the believer sites STILL keep trotting them out!!!!

2nd October 2006, 08:51 AM	#12
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,478	That's because they keep on pointing to the 'evidence' on other conspiracy sites, not to skeptic sites where those claims are debunked. They just don't want to listen to reason, but rather dwell in their own dillusions.
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2nd October 2006, 09:05 AM	#13
simonmaal Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North East England Posts: 372	This issue amazes (and amuses) me. Why do New Agers apply such rigorous skepticism towards the moon landings, but nevertheless swallow homoepathy, dowsing, energy healing, tarot readings and other such nonsense without carrying out any evaluation? Why the hypocrisy?

2nd October 2006, 09:19 AM	#14
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,478	Originally Posted by simonmaal This issue amazes (and amuses) me. Why do New Agers apply such rigorous skepticism towards the moon landings, but nevertheless swallow homoepathy, dowsing, energy healing, tarot readings and other such nonsense without carrying out any evaluation? Why the hypocrisy? Is it true that new agers believe in the moon hoax? All new agers? I thought it where people from all walk of life (well, not quite, but you understand what I'm saying). Is it part of new age? And why?
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2nd October 2006, 09:51 AM	#15
simonmaal Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North East England Posts: 372	Originally Posted by Bell Is it true that new agers believe in the moon hoax? All new agers? I thought it where people from all walk of life (well, not quite, but you understand what I'm saying). Is it part of new age? And why? OK fair point (I hold my hands up ) I was using new agers as an example; of course not all of them will believe in the moon hoax. But I know a few who do argue that it was all a hoax, yet accept dowsing and homeopathy without doubt. The point I am making is that I'm confused that people tend to believe certain things without applying critical thought (if they fit with their current beliefs), yet are highly skeptical over things that do not match their belief system. There seems to be a whole anti-establishment culture growing, of which new agers are but one variety. The medical establisment is one of their favourite targets: http://www.wddty.co.uk/cms/content.asp?pageid=home

2nd October 2006, 10:07 AM	#16
Josh Redstone Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 205	Does a site like this even get taken seriously by moon landing conpsiracists? I mean, there are obviously a lot of people who believe in the moon-hoax simply because they haven't seen/don't want to see if evidence debunking these claims, but to deny the existence of the moon? That's a new level of ignorance that I think even a lot of CTist wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. .....why even deny the moon's existence anyway? Why not deny the sun's? "We're living in a giant biosphere and the sun is just a hologram" or something like that? Or, what about all the other planets and their moons? Sheesh.....
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2nd October 2006, 10:12 AM	#17
CptColumbo Just One More Question Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 9,130	Originally Posted by Josh Redstone Does a site like this even get taken seriously by moon landing conpsiracists? I mean, there are obviously a lot of people who believe in the moon-hoax simply because they haven't seen/don't want to see if evidence debunking these claims, but to deny the existence of the moon? That's a new level of ignorance that I think even a lot of CTist wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. .....why even deny the moon's existence anyway? Why not deny the sun's? "We're living in a giant biosphere and the sun is just a hologram" or something like that? Or, what about all the other planets and their moons? Sheesh..... The site also denies the existence of Winnipeg.
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2nd October 2006, 10:17 AM	#18
thomps1d Thinker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Regina, SK, Canada Posts: 193	Originally Posted by CptColumbo The site also denies the existence of Winnipeg. I have been to Winnipeg, but since I cannot definitively prove that I exist, I cannot prove that Winnipeg exists. I also cannot prove that this post exists. I can, however, prove that you exist and have another browser open watching porn. Get back to work, you sicko.

2nd October 2006, 10:24 AM	#19
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,478	Originally Posted by simonmaal OK fair point (I hold my hands up ) I was using new agers as an example; of course not all of them will believe in the moon hoax. But I know a few who do argue that it was all a hoax, yet accept dowsing and homeopathy without doubt. The point I am making is that I'm confused that people tend to believe certain things without applying critical thought (if they fit with their current beliefs), yet are highly skeptical over things that do not match their belief system. There seems to be a whole anti-establishment culture growing, of which new agers are but one variety. The medical establisment is one of their favourite targets: http://www.wddty.co.uk/cms/content.asp?pageid=home Ah, fair enough. I thought that maybe realy the new age people believe in the moan hoax. And I was courious as to why. Bit of misinterpretation on my side, I guess.
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2nd October 2006, 10:25 AM	#20
CptColumbo Just One More Question Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 9,130	Originally Posted by thomps1d I have been to Winnipeg, but since I cannot definitively prove that I exist, I cannot prove that Winnipeg exists. I also cannot prove that this post exists. I can, however, prove that you exist and have another browser open watching porn. Get back to work, you sicko. (I slowly turn to make sure thomps1d is not behind me) AAAAAHHH!!
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2nd October 2006, 11:12 AM	#21
Josh Redstone Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 205	Originally Posted by CptColumbo The site also denies the existence of Winnipeg. I don't know whether to laugh histerically, or call a mental hospital to get this guy some help
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2nd October 2006, 11:33 AM	#22
rwp Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 209	$100,000 to prove moon exisits? After reading his pages and exploring a few links here and there, I discovered that the fellow is offering "a cash reward of $100,000" for proof of existence of the moon. This cash reward "has been offered to anyone who can send us, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon. This reward remains unclaimed." "Can you prove that the moon exists? Write to us at: madrev@reptiles.org WOW! Sounds like easy money. http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/Moon3.htm

2nd October 2006, 11:34 AM	#23
simonmaal Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North East England Posts: 372	Originally Posted by rwp After reading his pages and exploring a few links here and there, I discovered that the fellow is offering "a cash reward of $100,000" for proof of existence of the moon. This cash reward "has been offered to anyone who can send us, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon. This reward remains unclaimed." "Can you prove that the moon exists? Write to us at: madrev@reptiles.org WOW! Sounds like easy money. http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/Moon3.htm LOL. Getting my telescope out of the attic now...

2nd October 2006, 11:48 AM	#24
rwp Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 209	It seems there is a $100,000 award for proof of the existence of Winnipeg as well. http://www.holocaust-history.org/~rjg/challenge.shtml

2nd October 2006, 11:55 AM	#25
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,478	You guys do understand that these two claims are a joke, not a hoax?
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2nd October 2006, 11:57 AM	#26
CptColumbo Just One More Question Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 9,130	Originally Posted by Bell You guys do understand that these two claims are a joke, not a hoax? Yeah, I read the disclaimer at the bottom of the first page. I thought it was an interesting exercise in how CT tactics can be taken to extremes. It was also in my spoiler.
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2nd October 2006, 12:04 PM	#27
rwp Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 209	dangit.

2nd October 2006, 12:07 PM	#28
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,478	I think, from reading some on that website, the $100,000 challenge is a spoof on: Quote: One of the mainstays of the Holocaust revisionist hypothesis has been John Ball's analysis of the aerial reconnaissance photographs taken over Auschwitz in 1944 and 1945. Ball purports to demonstrate two things in his analysis of these photographs: that the photographs prove that mass executions using poison gas did not occur at Auschwitz; and, that the aerial photographs were tampered with and altered before Dino Brugioni and Robert Poirier released their study of the photographs in 1979. John Ball is so confident of these claims that he has advertised a reward of $100,000 to anyone who can debunk them. As of the date of this writing, however, good faith efforts to take up Ball's challenge have been altogether futile. In some of his claims about what the photographs tell us, Ball sometimes betrays a surprising ignorance of the broadly accepted historical accounts which he aims to debunk. For instance, Ball notes that the area surrounding Auschwitz-Birkenau was being farmed in August 1944, and he expects his readers to draw the conclusion that the visibility of the camp to outside observers meant that mass murder could not have occurred in the camp.Apparently, Ball does not know that the Auschwitz farms were within a much larger "Economic Zone" under the control of the SS and were worked with prisoner labour. Despite the inadequacy of his historical knowledge about Auschwitz-Birkenau, Ball can lay claim to some expertise as an aerial photography analyst, and his theory that the aerial photographs have been tampered with cannot be dismissed so lightly. Ball is apparently so convinced by his theory that in March or April 1997 he added a $100,000 reward to his web page as follows: [IMAGE: "$100,000 Reward"] To Have Three Air Photo Experts Agree That: 1. The 3D Maps are not accurate copies of the air photos; or 2. Marks were not drawn on August 25, 1944 Auschwitz air photos, as shown in Evidence of Air Photo Tampering. NOTE: Each expert has to submit a written report with conclusions. The three experts each need to state that one of the above two statements are true. The air photo expert's qualifications need approval by those seeking the reward, and by the author. http://www.nizkor.org/features/ball-challenge/
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2nd October 2006, 12:12 PM	#29
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,478	Originally Posted by CptColumbo Yeah, I read the disclaimer at the bottom of the first page. I thought it was an interesting exercise in how CT tactics can be taken to extremes. It was also in my spoiler. Yep, I read your first spoiler, but I thought simonmaal and rpw where under the impression that it was real. ETA: Damn! Did I just spoil your joke?
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2nd October 2006, 12:14 PM	#30
CptColumbo Just One More Question Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 9,130	Originally Posted by Bell Yep, I read your first spoiler, but I thought simonmaal and rpw where under the impression that it was real. ETA: Damn! Did I just spoil your joke? The thing I wonder is, how many have read it and agree with it? Nah.
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2nd October 2006, 01:53 PM	#31
HeyLeroy Vegan Cannibal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Going off the rails on the Crazy Train. Posts: 5,565	Originally Posted by rwp After reading his pages and exploring a few links here and there, I discovered that the fellow is offering "a cash reward of $100,000" for proof of existence of the moon. This cash reward "has been offered to anyone who can send us, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon. This reward remains unclaimed." "Can you prove that the moon exists? Write to us at: madrev@reptiles.org WOW! Sounds like easy money. http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/Moon3.htm Just sent him a moon-rock by e-mail. Bugger of a time getting the DVD tray to close. First round's on me!
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2nd October 2006, 02:14 PM	#32
qarnos Cold-hearted skeptic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Melbourne, Austrylia Posts: 1,985	Originally Posted by Big Al What really irritates me about the moon-hoax sites is that just about every single one of the claims (non-parallel shadows, backlighting, disappearing reseau marks, lethal radiation, etc., etc.) have been definitively debunked. However, the believer sites STILL keep trotting them out!!!! This reminds me of a radio debate between Phil Plait and some Moon hoax kook (forget his name). The kook was questioning why no-one on the ground had taken photos of the space-craft enroute to The Moon. Phil responded by saying he just did a quick Google and found hundreds of images of Apollo waste-dumps taken by amateurs. The kook asked what the pictures looked like and Phil responded that they looked like expanding clouds of vapour. The kooks response? "Oh yeah, and that would be really hard to fake!" My question is, why do these guys ask for proof when they will just write it off as being part of the conspiracy, anyway?
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2nd October 2006, 02:18 PM	#33
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,478	Duck! And cover!
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2nd October 2006, 03:35 PM	#34
Josh Redstone Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 205	Originally Posted by Bell You guys do understand that these two claims are a joke, not a hoax? Heh. I just noticed that now Man, do I ever feel silly
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2nd October 2006, 03:44 PM	#35
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,478	But not this silly.
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