Split of Chris´s thread - Dangerous CT´ists

Oliver · 4th October 2006, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Christophera

I've asked them face to face, they agree. I can't get them online. Any forum of construction workers is going to be afraid to confirm that the tower has a concrete core. I live over here, believe me, I speak english very well.

Did you miss the explanation of the fear ritual? "The government has already killed 3,000 why would they stop at one more?" I may know better or that it is a fairly small group that did the dirty work and not actually a part of government, but construction workers mostly don't.

What fear ritual? How do you claim to know this by seeing concrete-cores? I live in Europe - so i´m not really afraid of anything then a cold winter and some stupid efforts to cut my privileges as a free citizen because 9/11.

I´m more afraid of seeing all the paranoia around 9/11. People like the chemtrails - or the no planes believer. Or the explosives-leage that really believe in it without evidence. I first laughed about it but if i try to realize that these people really exist and really are afraid of a NWO, really scares me.

If these guys are that far away from fact-based reality, what are they capable to do? Killing others just because they saw an empty building fall on 9/11 and can´t explain it? And we shouldn´t forget the right-wing that uses the "movement" to spread their hate-propaganda. (Alex Jones, too?)

This is scary, isn´t it?

Gravy · 4th October 2006, 10:10 PM

This doesn't scare me. I don't think there are many people who are that extreme. Paranoia or irrational fear of government is nothing new, and cases where these people act violently because of their fear are rare. I think that most of the people who have latched on to the 9/11 denial movement will grow up and find that their time is better spent doing anything else.

Oliver · 4th October 2006, 10:22 PM

Mhmm, was Klebold and the other guy just one of 10000 paranoid kids?

Don´t take this as a strawman - i´m talking about 1 "oswald" within hundreds or thousands that grow up and leave the stupidity behind. Someone who turns to live this paranoia.

Gravy · 4th October 2006, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Oliver

Mhmm, was Klebold and the other guy just one of 10000 paranoid kids?

Don´t take this as a strawman - i´m talking about 1 "oswald" within hundreds or thousands that grow up and leave the stupidity behind. Someone who turns to live this paranoia.

I suspect that civilization will survive that person's paranoia.

Oliver · 4th October 2006, 11:15 PM

And if this one guys name is OBL or Hitler (sorry, Pardalis)?

OBL (the patsie

) and his followers did change the world. You see, i´m still sceptic.

Gravy · 4th October 2006, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Oliver

And if this one guys name is OBL or Hitler (sorry, Pardalis)?

OBL (the patsie

) and his followers did change the world. You see, i´m still sceptic.

Civilization will, as Hutch would say, press on. Anyway, these days there's no need to go completely off the deep end. There's plenty of profit in being just crazy enough, as Alex Jones could tell you. The beauty of the "NWO" conspiracy theory is that it's so diffuse. There will always be shadows to blame.

Oliver · 4th October 2006, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

Civilization will, as Hutch would say, press on. Anyway, these days there's no need to go completely off the deep end. There's plenty of profit in being just crazy enough, as Alex Jones could tell you. The beauty of the "NWO" conspiracy theory is that it's so diffuse. There will always be shadows to blame.

Damned, you just shredded my whole thread. With the next one i will beat you, promised.

4th October 2006, 10:05 PM	#1
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Split of Chris´s thread - Dangerous CT´ists Originally Posted by Christophera I've asked them face to face, they agree. I can't get them online. Any forum of construction workers is going to be afraid to confirm that the tower has a concrete core. I live over here, believe me, I speak english very well. Did you miss the explanation of the fear ritual? "The government has already killed 3,000 why would they stop at one more?" I may know better or that it is a fairly small group that did the dirty work and not actually a part of government, but construction workers mostly don't. What fear ritual? How do you claim to know this by seeing concrete-cores? I live in Europe - so i´m not really afraid of anything then a cold winter and some stupid efforts to cut my privileges as a free citizen because 9/11. I´m more afraid of seeing all the paranoia around 9/11. People like the chemtrails - or the no planes believer. Or the explosives-leage that really believe in it without evidence. I first laughed about it but if i try to realize that these people really exist and really are afraid of a NWO, really scares me. If these guys are that far away from fact-based reality, what are they capable to do? Killing others just because they saw an empty building fall on 9/11 and can´t explain it? And we shouldn´t forget the right-wing that uses the "movement" to spread their hate-propaganda. (Alex Jones, too?) This is scary, isn´t it?

4th October 2006, 10:10 PM	#2
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	This doesn't scare me. I don't think there are many people who are that extreme. Paranoia or irrational fear of government is nothing new, and cases where these people act violently because of their fear are rare. I think that most of the people who have latched on to the 9/11 denial movement will grow up and find that their time is better spent doing anything else.
	__________________ "Please, keep your chops cool and don’t overblow.” –Freddie Hubbard What's the Harm?........Stop Sylvia Browne........My 9/11 links

4th October 2006, 11:01 PM	#4
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by Oliver Mhmm, was Klebold and the other guy just one of 10000 paranoid kids? Don´t take this as a strawman - i´m talking about 1 "oswald" within hundreds or thousands that grow up and leave the stupidity behind. Someone who turns to live this paranoia. I suspect that civilization will survive that person's paranoia.
	__________________ "Please, keep your chops cool and don’t overblow.” –Freddie Hubbard What's the Harm?........Stop Sylvia Browne........My 9/11 links

4th October 2006, 11:27 PM	#6
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by Oliver And if this one guys name is OBL or Hitler (sorry, Pardalis)? OBL (the patsie ) and his followers did change the world. You see, i´m still sceptic. Civilization will, as Hutch would say, press on. Anyway, these days there's no need to go completely off the deep end. There's plenty of profit in being just crazy enough, as Alex Jones could tell you. The beauty of the "NWO" conspiracy theory is that it's so diffuse. There will always be shadows to blame.
	__________________ "Please, keep your chops cool and don’t overblow.” –Freddie Hubbard What's the Harm?........Stop Sylvia Browne........My 9/11 links

4th October 2006, 11:37 PM	#7
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Originally Posted by Gravy Civilization will, as Hutch would say, press on. Anyway, these days there's no need to go completely off the deep end. There's plenty of profit in being just crazy enough, as Alex Jones could tell you. The beauty of the "NWO" conspiracy theory is that it's so diffuse. There will always be shadows to blame. Damned, you just shredded my whole thread. With the next one i will beat you, promised.
	Last edited by Oliver; 4th October 2006 at 11:46 PM. Reason: shredded - was: debunked

4th October 2006, 10:22 PM	#3
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Mhmm, was Klebold and the other guy just one of 10000 paranoid kids? Don´t take this as a strawman - i´m talking about 1 "oswald" within hundreds or thousands that grow up and leave the stupidity behind. Someone who turns to live this paranoia.

4th October 2006, 11:15 PM	#5
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	And if this one guys name is OBL or Hitler (sorry, Pardalis)? OBL (the patsie ) and his followers did change the world. You see, i´m still sceptic.