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Bradk3 · 11th October 2006, 01:53 PM

I apologize if this has been discussed before, but I just found this_thread on the Flat Earth forum and thought everyone might like to take a break from 9-11 for a bit.

Enjoy.

Oh, and keep in mind that dogplatter is entirely serious...

Dave1001 · 11th October 2006, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Bradk3

I apologize if this has been discussed before, but I just found this_thread on the Flat Earth forum and thought everyone might like to take a break from 9-11 for a bit.

Enjoy.

Oh, and keep in mind that dogplatter is entirely serious...

I can't believe dogplatter is serious, but he's kind of a genius. Come to think of it I've never seen a penguin fossil.

Josh Redstone · 11th October 2006, 02:13 PM

The dinosaur government knew about the ice wall too???

....I wonder how many penguins the government needed to create to feed all the Ice Wall guards anyway......

By the way, here are some pages about prehistoric penguins. It turns out they are one of the oldest types of birds we know about.

http://www.eliasdesigns.com/penguins/history.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1573054.htm
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n..._penguins.html

Dave1001 · 11th October 2006, 02:15 PM

I'm surprised no one has joined using the name Tom Friedman yet.

Dave1001 · 11th October 2006, 02:20 PM

Awesome, apparently they explain gravity by saying the earth is constantly moving upward. Sheer genius.

Bradk3 · 11th October 2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dave1001

I'm surprised no one has joined using the name Tom Friedman yet.

Not that I really want to admit how socially illiterate I am, but it took a few minutes of googling and Wikipediaing, before I got that...

Rassilon · 11th October 2006, 03:14 PM

Flat Earth Society? That's a joke forum isn't it? I mean, people have seen time-lapse footage of the earth spinning. Round earth explains noon here and midnight half a world away. I just can't fathom people believing this if they have even a basic education.

Bradk3 · 11th October 2006, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Rassilon

Flat Earth Society? That's a joke forum isn't it? I mean, people have seen time-lapse footage of the earth spinning. Round earth explains noon here and midnight half a world away. I just can't fathom people believing this if they have even a basic education.

If it's a joke, it's lost on most of the supporters. Put your brain on standby and look around for a while...

Dave1001 · 11th October 2006, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rassilon

Flat Earth Society? That's a joke forum isn't it? I mean, people have seen time-lapse footage of the earth spinning. Round earth explains noon here and midnight half a world away. I just can't fathom people believing this if they have even a basic education.

It's really smart people coming up with really clever counterarguments to the argument that the earth is somewhat spherical.

The best one I've read yet on there is there's no gravity -instead the flat earth is constantly rising. Sheer genius!!

Bradk3 · 11th October 2006, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Fred

Additionally, I have to say that I remain unconvinced that any of them really believe what they are saying. I think they may be goading the rest of us along for their own amusement. If so, I think it's a pretty fun game.

Originally Posted by dysfunction

Fred, you are basically correct, the majority of those professing belief in a flat Earth are actually merely playing Devil's Advocate, and most of them have actually stated such somewhere on this board. However, there are a core few who appear to actually believe.

So, while most are just enjoying a philosophical argument, some appear to really believe.

Makes the 9/11 CTists seem almost... no, I can't say it...

Rassilon · 11th October 2006, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dave1001

The best one I've read yet on there is there's no gravity -instead the flat earth is constantly rising. Sheer genius!!

Well, I wouldn't say constantly rising. Constant rise would be 0 acceleration, plug that into F=ma and the force holding you down would be 0 as well. The Earth would need to be constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2.

Hmm, let's see. If the Earth started at rest and is constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2, how long would it take to reach the speed of light? 3*10^8[m/s] = 9.8[m/s^2]t => t = 3.1*10^7[s]. Oh, so the Earth would reach the speed of light in a little over 358 days. Huh, is that a new record for a "young Earth"?

Of course, this gets really weird if the Earth is still orbiting the sun and spinning. If I make an Earth centered model...

Zep · 11th October 2006, 04:18 PM

So are all those turtles still there?

Redtail · 11th October 2006, 04:19 PM

Ah The FES! Have you read the one about how rain is actually seawater that splashes over the side of the Icewall because the Disk "Earth" is moving in a figure 8?

Dave1001 · 11th October 2006, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rassilon

Well, I wouldn't say constantly rising. Constant rise would be 0 acceleration, plug that into F=ma and the force holding you down would be 0 as well. The Earth would need to be constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2.

Hmm, let's see. If the Earth started at rest and is constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2, how long would it take to reach the speed of light? 3*10^8[m/s] = 9.8[m/s^2]t => t = 3.1*10^7[s]. Oh, so the Earth would reach the speed of light in a little over 358 days. Huh, is that a new record for a "young Earth"?

Of course, this gets really weird if the Earth is still orbiting the sun and spinning. If I make an Earth centered model...

I don't see why the earth would need to be constantly accelerating for the purpose of flat earthers. Their point is not that we are experience 1 G of gravity, as I understand it, but rather that When we jump up the earth comes up to meet our feet. If gravity isn't pulling us back down to earth, perhaps the earth is just rising. I love the beautiful, counterintuitive simplicity.

Dave1001 · 11th October 2006, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Redtail

Ah The FES! Have you read the one about how rain is actually seawater that splashes over the side of the Icewall because the Disk "Earth" is moving in a figure 8?

No, but that is awesome. So I guess FE is spiriling upwards?

Alareth · 11th October 2006, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dave1001

The best one I've read yet on there is there's no gravity -instead the flat earth is constantly rising. Sheer genius!!

No no no! The Earth is stationary

Dave1001 · 11th October 2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Alareth

No no no! The Earth is stationary

yeah that site is awesome too.

Rassilon · 11th October 2006, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dave1001

I don't see why the earth would need to be constantly accelerating for the purpose of flat earthers. Their point is not that we are experience 1 G of gravity, as I understand it, but rather that When we jump up the earth comes up to meet our feet. If gravity isn't pulling us back down to earth, perhaps the earth is just rising. I love the beautiful, counterintuitive simplicity.

Fair enough, but you can observe the earth "comes up" to meet you at a constantly accelerating rate. If the earth were just moving up at constant speed, when I release a rock out of a fourth story window, the earth should reach it in twice the time it takes to get to the second story window.

Dave1001 · 11th October 2006, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rassilon

Fair enough, but you can observe the earth "comes up" to meet you at a constantly accelerating rate. If the earth were just moving up at constant speed, when I release a rock out of a fourth story window, the earth should reach it in twice the time it takes to get to the second story window.

Good point. I await smarter minds than I to have a Flat Earth Of The Gaps explanation for how constant upward acceleration can exist without faster than light travel having already been attained in our lifetime.

Rassilon · 11th October 2006, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Alareth

No no no! The Earth is stationary

Ha!

Quote:

The moon is composed of some highly reflective material that acts like a mirror. The best guess is frozen water or ice.

Yeah, everyone knows absorption line spectra are lies too. Curse the massive secular conspiracy!

Quote:

The Jesuits were getting DESPERATE because without a rotating earth the theory of evolution falls flat on its face.

Um, I withdraw my comment about the massive secular conspiracy.

Outhere · 11th October 2006, 05:05 PM

This would confirm the idea current in the 1950's that the June Taylor Dancers were on the ceiling and the camera on the floor.

Well, I just gave away my age. Wikipedia that, young whippernsappers.

11th October 2006, 01:53 PM	#1
Bradk3 Thinker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Around here... somewhere. Posts: 205	Flat Earth, Man-made Penguins and Intelligent Dinosaurs I apologize if this has been discussed before, but I just found this_thread on the Flat Earth forum and thought everyone might like to take a break from 9-11 for a bit. Enjoy. Oh, and keep in mind that dogplatter is entirely serious...
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11th October 2006, 02:13 PM	#2
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	Originally Posted by Bradk3 I apologize if this has been discussed before, but I just found this_thread on the Flat Earth forum and thought everyone might like to take a break from 9-11 for a bit. Enjoy. Oh, and keep in mind that dogplatter is entirely serious... I can't believe dogplatter is serious, but he's kind of a genius. Come to think of it I've never seen a penguin fossil.
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	__________________ I'm here to discuss ideas, not to get personal. I won't criticize you personally, please don't criticize me personally. I won't direct ad hominems at you, please don't direct ad hominems at me. I won't attack you or put you down, please don't attack me or put me down. Thanks.

11th October 2006, 02:13 PM	#3
Josh Redstone Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 205	The dinosaur government knew about the ice wall too??? ....I wonder how many penguins the government needed to create to feed all the Ice Wall guards anyway...... By the way, here are some pages about prehistoric penguins. It turns out they are one of the oldest types of birds we know about. http://www.eliasdesigns.com/penguins/history.htm http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1573054.htm http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n..._penguins.html
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11th October 2006, 02:15 PM	#4
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	I'm surprised no one has joined using the name Tom Friedman yet.
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11th October 2006, 02:20 PM	#5
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	Awesome, apparently they explain gravity by saying the earth is constantly moving upward. Sheer genius.
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11th October 2006, 02:25 PM	#6
Bradk3 Thinker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Around here... somewhere. Posts: 205	Originally Posted by Dave1001 I'm surprised no one has joined using the name Tom Friedman yet. Not that I really want to admit how socially illiterate I am, but it took a few minutes of googling and Wikipediaing, before I got that...
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11th October 2006, 03:14 PM	#7
Rassilon Student Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ames, IA, USA Posts: 43	Flat Earth Society? That's a joke forum isn't it? I mean, people have seen time-lapse footage of the earth spinning. Round earth explains noon here and midnight half a world away. I just can't fathom people believing this if they have even a basic education.

11th October 2006, 03:20 PM	#8
Bradk3 Thinker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Around here... somewhere. Posts: 205	Originally Posted by Rassilon Flat Earth Society? That's a joke forum isn't it? I mean, people have seen time-lapse footage of the earth spinning. Round earth explains noon here and midnight half a world away. I just can't fathom people believing this if they have even a basic education. If it's a joke, it's lost on most of the supporters. Put your brain on standby and look around for a while...
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11th October 2006, 03:23 PM	#9
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	Originally Posted by Rassilon Flat Earth Society? That's a joke forum isn't it? I mean, people have seen time-lapse footage of the earth spinning. Round earth explains noon here and midnight half a world away. I just can't fathom people believing this if they have even a basic education. It's really smart people coming up with really clever counterarguments to the argument that the earth is somewhat spherical. The best one I've read yet on there is there's no gravity -instead the flat earth is constantly rising. Sheer genius!!
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	__________________ I'm here to discuss ideas, not to get personal. I won't criticize you personally, please don't criticize me personally. I won't direct ad hominems at you, please don't direct ad hominems at me. I won't attack you or put you down, please don't attack me or put me down. Thanks.

11th October 2006, 03:27 PM	#10
Bradk3 Thinker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Around here... somewhere. Posts: 205	Originally Posted by Fred Additionally, I have to say that I remain unconvinced that any of them really believe what they are saying. I think they may be goading the rest of us along for their own amusement. If so, I think it's a pretty fun game. Originally Posted by dysfunction Fred, you are basically correct, the majority of those professing belief in a flat Earth are actually merely playing Devil's Advocate, and most of them have actually stated such somewhere on this board. However, there are a core few who appear to actually believe. So, while most are just enjoying a philosophical argument, some appear to really believe. Makes the 9/11 CTists seem almost... no, I can't say it...
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11th October 2006, 03:50 PM	#11
Rassilon Student Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ames, IA, USA Posts: 43	Originally Posted by Dave1001 The best one I've read yet on there is there's no gravity -instead the flat earth is constantly rising. Sheer genius!! Well, I wouldn't say constantly rising. Constant rise would be 0 acceleration, plug that into F=ma and the force holding you down would be 0 as well. The Earth would need to be constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2. Hmm, let's see. If the Earth started at rest and is constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2, how long would it take to reach the speed of light? 310^8[m/s] = 9.8[m/s^2]t => t = 3.110^7[s]. Oh, so the Earth would reach the speed of light in a little over 358 days. Huh, is that a new record for a "young Earth"? Of course, this gets really weird if the Earth is still orbiting the sun and spinning. If I make an Earth centered model...

11th October 2006, 04:18 PM	#12
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11th October 2006, 04:19 PM	#13
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,398	Ah The FES! Have you read the one about how rain is actually seawater that splashes over the side of the Icewall because the Disk "Earth" is moving in a figure 8?
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11th October 2006, 04:22 PM	#14
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	Originally Posted by Rassilon Well, I wouldn't say constantly rising. Constant rise would be 0 acceleration, plug that into F=ma and the force holding you down would be 0 as well. The Earth would need to be constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2. Hmm, let's see. If the Earth started at rest and is constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2, how long would it take to reach the speed of light? 310^8[m/s] = 9.8[m/s^2]t => t = 3.110^7[s]. Oh, so the Earth would reach the speed of light in a little over 358 days. Huh, is that a new record for a "young Earth"? Of course, this gets really weird if the Earth is still orbiting the sun and spinning. If I make an Earth centered model... I don't see why the earth would need to be constantly accelerating for the purpose of flat earthers. Their point is not that we are experience 1 G of gravity, as I understand it, but rather that When we jump up the earth comes up to meet our feet. If gravity isn't pulling us back down to earth, perhaps the earth is just rising. I love the beautiful, counterintuitive simplicity.
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	__________________ I'm here to discuss ideas, not to get personal. I won't criticize you personally, please don't criticize me personally. I won't direct ad hominems at you, please don't direct ad hominems at me. I won't attack you or put you down, please don't attack me or put me down. Thanks.

11th October 2006, 04:23 PM	#15
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	Originally Posted by Redtail Ah The FES! Have you read the one about how rain is actually seawater that splashes over the side of the Icewall because the Disk "Earth" is moving in a figure 8? No, but that is awesome. So I guess FE is spiriling upwards?
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	__________________ I'm here to discuss ideas, not to get personal. I won't criticize you personally, please don't criticize me personally. I won't direct ad hominems at you, please don't direct ad hominems at me. I won't attack you or put you down, please don't attack me or put me down. Thanks.

11th October 2006, 04:31 PM	#16
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,807	Originally Posted by Dave1001 The best one I've read yet on there is there's no gravity -instead the flat earth is constantly rising. Sheer genius!! No no no! The Earth is stationary
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11th October 2006, 04:35 PM	#17
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	Originally Posted by Alareth No no no! The Earth is stationary yeah that site is awesome too.
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11th October 2006, 04:43 PM	#18
Rassilon Student Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ames, IA, USA Posts: 43	Originally Posted by Dave1001 I don't see why the earth would need to be constantly accelerating for the purpose of flat earthers. Their point is not that we are experience 1 G of gravity, as I understand it, but rather that When we jump up the earth comes up to meet our feet. If gravity isn't pulling us back down to earth, perhaps the earth is just rising. I love the beautiful, counterintuitive simplicity. Fair enough, but you can observe the earth "comes up" to meet you at a constantly accelerating rate. If the earth were just moving up at constant speed, when I release a rock out of a fourth story window, the earth should reach it in twice the time it takes to get to the second story window.

11th October 2006, 04:47 PM	#19
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	Originally Posted by Rassilon Fair enough, but you can observe the earth "comes up" to meet you at a constantly accelerating rate. If the earth were just moving up at constant speed, when I release a rock out of a fourth story window, the earth should reach it in twice the time it takes to get to the second story window. Good point. I await smarter minds than I to have a Flat Earth Of The Gaps explanation for how constant upward acceleration can exist without faster than light travel having already been attained in our lifetime.
Dave1001 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,717	__________________ I'm here to discuss ideas, not to get personal. I won't criticize you personally, please don't criticize me personally. I won't direct ad hominems at you, please don't direct ad hominems at me. I won't attack you or put you down, please don't attack me or put me down. Thanks. Last edited by Dave1001; 11th October 2006 at 04:58 PM.

11th October 2006, 04:56 PM	#20
Rassilon Student Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ames, IA, USA Posts: 43	Originally Posted by Alareth No no no! The Earth is stationary Ha! Quote: The moon is composed of some highly reflective material that acts like a mirror. The best guess is frozen water or ice. Yeah, everyone knows absorption line spectra are lies too. Curse the massive secular conspiracy! Quote: The Jesuits were getting DESPERATE because without a rotating earth the theory of evolution falls flat on its face. Um, I withdraw my comment about the massive secular conspiracy.

11th October 2006, 05:05 PM	#21
Outhere Thinker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 145	The Gleason Corollary to the Rising Earth Theory This would confirm the idea current in the 1950's that the June Taylor Dancers were on the ceiling and the camera on the floor. Well, I just gave away my age. Wikipedia that, young whippernsappers.