President Kennedy Remains

kc440_ · 12th October 2006, 01:56 PM

I think most of you know that President Kennedy's brain is missing from the National Archives. But I also think the public, and members here, do not know that President Kennedy's remains were removed from his first burial plot to another, more prominent one in Arlington National Cemetery in 1967. This activity took place in the middle of the night, and there were many, many National Guardsmen surrounding and protecting this activity. On hand were Bobby Kennedy, Ted Kennedy and I think a certain Archbishop of the Catholic Church. When the President was reburied, Jacqueline Kennedy was brought to the new burial site and a service was held.

There are photos to prove this. Only, I haven't been able to locate them on the Internet. In one or more of the photos, a stainless steel container was on the ground, next to the opened grave. I believe it contained the remainder of Kennedy's brain and was reburied with President Kennedy under orders of Robert Kennedy. It has long been asserted he took custody of the brain. But where did he keep it? Now maybe we know.

I don't know how many of you know about this. I just thought it was interesting.

kc440

Gravy · 12th October 2006, 02:03 PM

That's "Kennedy's," as in "The remains of President Kennedy." Your title means "President Kennedy stays," which I don't think is what you meant.

Are other brains kept in the National Archives?

Did you know that Ted Kennedy's brain has been pickled for decades?

Spindrift · 12th October 2006, 02:08 PM

I think the first question that comes to my mind is: SO WHAT?

And please provide a citation for

Quote:

It has long been asserted he took custody of the brain.

bjb · 12th October 2006, 02:11 PM

I think kc440 "just got a clue".

Gravy · 12th October 2006, 02:18 PM

I do think it's interesting, as trivia goes. The House Select Committee tried to trace the brain and other autopsy samples. RFK apparently did take possession of them, but he hasn't acknowledged doing so, AFAIK. My fear is that one morning Teddy told Robert, "I owe you for that stuff in the fancy decanter. I drank it last night."

Spindrift · 12th October 2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by kc440_

In one or more of the photos, a stainless steel container was on the ground, next to the opened grave.
kc440

Maybe it was Marilyn's ashes.

defaultdotxbe · 12th October 2006, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by kc440_

This activity took place in the middle of the night, and there were many, many National Guardsmen surrounding and protecting this activity. On hand were Bobby Kennedy, Ted Kennedy and I think a certain Archbishop of the Catholic Church.

this probably only seems odd to a CTer

Gravy · 12th October 2006, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Spindrift

Maybe it was Marilyn's ashes.

Ah, now we're on to a proper conspiracy for kc AKA "Da Silent But Deadly WTC H-Bomb Depleted Ucranium" to run with. Good thing Joe D. isn't around to hear this. He'd rip this forum apart with his bare hands.

Dog Town · 12th October 2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

"I owe you for that stuff in the fancy decanter. I drank it last night."

While, I did laugh at this, I did so, while holding down my lunch! Good one!*shivers*

kc440_ · 12th October 2006, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Spindrift

Maybe it was Marilyn's ashes.

I don't think it's funny. She's entombed in Westwood Memorial Cemetery in L.A.

And Gravy, please don't play semantics with me. What are you trying to prove?

kc440

Gravy · 12th October 2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by kc440_

I don't think it's funny. She's entombed in Westwood Memorial Cemetery in L.A.

And Gravy, please don't play semantics with me. What are you trying to prove?

kc440

Why so upset? I made a grammatical correction to a confusing thread title.

Spindrift · 12th October 2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by kc440_

I don't think it's funny. She's entombed in Westwood Memorial Cemetery in L.A.

Have you seen the body? How do you know she's there?

Isn't it possible that Bobby Kennedy had the FBI substitute another body and had her cremated?

Or maybe she didn't die that night, but was held a sex slave by RFK, but she died in an S&M accident.

Gee for a conspiracy theorist, you seem awfully willing to accept the "official" story.

Gravy · 12th October 2006, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by kc440_

I don't think it's funny. She's entombed in Westwood Memorial Cemetery in L.A.

No, she's not. Arthur Miller had her reinterred in Green-Wood cemetery in Brooklyn.

kc440_ · 12th October 2006, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

No, she's not. Arthur Miller had her reinterred in Green-Wood cemetery in Brooklyn.

You have to be kidding. Miller didn't go to the funeral. Finally, Joe DiMaggio stepped forward, claimed her and blocked her Hollywood friends from attending.

I think you're joking.

kc440

Aoidoi · 12th October 2006, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by bjb

I think kc440 "just got a clue".

A raging clue.

dirtywick · 12th October 2006, 03:46 PM

It is interesting. I can't imagine why Robert Kennedy would even want custody of his brain, or for that matter why anyone cares where his brain is currently and why anyone would go to the trouble of trying to track it down.

Just creepy, man.

bjb · 12th October 2006, 04:07 PM

These guys in Westwood seem to think they have Marilyn's remains. I'm pretty sure Lee Strasberg wound up with Marilyn's posessions and they were in storage in New York for many years.

Bell · 12th October 2006, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by kc440_

I don't think it's funny. She's entombed in Westwood Memorial Cemetery in L.A.

And Gravy, please don't play semantics with me. What are you trying to prove?

kc440

Well, claiming the gubmint killed 3000 people is appropriate.

Gravy · 12th October 2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by kc440_

You have to be kidding. Miller didn't go to the funeral. Finally, Joe DiMaggio stepped forward, claimed her and blocked her Hollywood friends from attending.

I think you're joking.

kc440

No joke, kc. It's true.

senorpogo · 12th October 2006, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by kc440_

This activity took place in the middle of the night

Yes, because things that happen at night are intrinsically more sinister. This is comparable to Robert Irsay moving the Colts out of Baltimore in the wee hours of the morning. I wonder if the National Guards used Mayflower too?

yodaluver28 · 12th October 2006, 06:58 PM

The House Select Committee on Assassinations report stated that they believed that Robert Kennedy obtained "custody" of the brain but felt that there was no evidence to indicate that he had it reinterred with the body at Arlington. Their belief was that it was destroyed to prevent future public display.

Crungy · 12th October 2006, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by senorpogo

Yes, because things that happen at night are intrinsically more sinister. This is comparable to Robert Irsay moving the Colts out of Baltimore in the wee hours of the morning. I wonder if the National Guards used Mayflower too?

Off topic here with a quick post.

When I got my first job out of college, Irsay's brother (I can't remember his name at the moment) was still working. I'm guessing that he was in his mid to late 60s. He was a HVAC vendor in the Chicago area. When I found out that he was Robert's brother, I hinted about getting some Colts tickets. Man did he hate his brother! They had a big falling out over taking care of their mother, and hadn't spoken to each other for years. He was one funny dude though. Old school all the way. Swore like hell, liked a martini lunch and thought that all of the female engineers in the office were some type of administrative assistants.

Regnad Kcin · 12th October 2006, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by bjb

I think kc440 "just got a clue".

Originally Posted by Aoidoi

A raging clue.

I'm getting a clue right now!

Regnad Kcin · 12th October 2006, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

No, she's not. Arthur Miller had her reinterred in Green-Wood cemetery in Brooklyn.

Originally Posted by kc440_

You have to be kidding. Miller didn't go to the funeral. Finally, Joe DiMaggio stepped forward, claimed her and blocked her Hollywood friends from attending.

I think you're joking.

Careful, kc440, you're dealing with the Jedi master of NYC historic information.

DarkMagician · 12th October 2006, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by bjb

I think kc440 "just got a clue".

Originally Posted by Aoidoi

A raging clue.

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

I'm getting a clue right now!

It was huuuuuge!

bjb · 12th October 2006, 09:22 PM

Omigod, now I'm getting a clue!

Brainache · 12th October 2006, 09:32 PM

Remember: Clue glue and electronics don't mix. Cover your keyboard!

Gravy · 12th October 2006, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Careful, kc440, you're dealing with the Jedi master of NYC historic information.

Just between you and me, I forgot to put "It's true!"

after my statement.

kc440_ · 13th October 2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

I do think it's interesting, as trivia goes. The House Select Committee tried to trace the brain and other autopsy samples. RFK apparently did take possession of them, but he hasn't acknowledged doing so, AFAIK. My fear is that one morning Teddy told Robert, "I owe you for that stuff in the fancy decanter. I drank it last night."

I don't think a slaughtered president's brain and whereabouts constitutes "trivia."

kc440

Brainache · 13th October 2006, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by kc440_

I don't think a slaughtered president's brain and whereabouts constitutes "trivia."

kc440

Well I suppose it could be correctly described as "apocrypha".

But really what possible significance could it have, unless there is some wacky scheme to re-animate JFK using what's left of his pickled grey matter?

Big Les · 14th October 2006, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by bjb

Omigod, now I'm getting a clue!

Let's follow your clue.

12th October 2006, 01:56 PM	#1
kc440_ Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 248	President Kennedy Remains I think most of you know that President Kennedy's brain is missing from the National Archives. But I also think the public, and members here, do not know that President Kennedy's remains were removed from his first burial plot to another, more prominent one in Arlington National Cemetery in 1967. This activity took place in the middle of the night, and there were many, many National Guardsmen surrounding and protecting this activity. On hand were Bobby Kennedy, Ted Kennedy and I think a certain Archbishop of the Catholic Church. When the President was reburied, Jacqueline Kennedy was brought to the new burial site and a service was held. There are photos to prove this. Only, I haven't been able to locate them on the Internet. In one or more of the photos, a stainless steel container was on the ground, next to the opened grave. I believe it contained the remainder of Kennedy's brain and was reburied with President Kennedy under orders of Robert Kennedy. It has long been asserted he took custody of the brain. But where did he keep it? Now maybe we know. I don't know how many of you know about this. I just thought it was interesting. kc440
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12th October 2006, 02:03 PM	#2
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	That's "Kennedy's," as in "The remains of President Kennedy." Your title means "President Kennedy stays," which I don't think is what you meant. Are other brains kept in the National Archives? Did you know that Ted Kennedy's brain has been pickled for decades?
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12th October 2006, 02:11 PM	#4
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12th October 2006, 02:18 PM	#5
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	I do think it's interesting, as trivia goes. The House Select Committee tried to trace the brain and other autopsy samples. RFK apparently did take possession of them, but he hasn't acknowledged doing so, AFAIK. My fear is that one morning Teddy told Robert, "I owe you for that stuff in the fancy decanter. I drank it last night."
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12th October 2006, 02:22 PM	#7
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	Originally Posted by kc440_ This activity took place in the middle of the night, and there were many, many National Guardsmen surrounding and protecting this activity. On hand were Bobby Kennedy, Ted Kennedy and I think a certain Archbishop of the Catholic Church. this probably only seems odd to a CTer
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12th October 2006, 02:08 PM	#3
Spindrift Enturbulator Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here! Posts: 8,461	I think the first question that comes to my mind is: SO WHAT? And please provide a citation for Quote: It has long been asserted he took custody of the brain.

12th October 2006, 02:20 PM	#6
Spindrift Enturbulator Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here! Posts: 8,461	Originally Posted by kc440_ In one or more of the photos, a stainless steel container was on the ground, next to the opened grave. kc440 Maybe it was Marilyn's ashes.

12th October 2006, 02:24 PM	#8
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by Spindrift Maybe it was Marilyn's ashes. Ah, now we're on to a proper conspiracy for kc AKA "Da Silent But Deadly WTC H-Bomb Depleted Ucranium" to run with. Good thing Joe D. isn't around to hear this. He'd rip this forum apart with his bare hands.
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12th October 2006, 02:25 PM	#9
Dog Town Space for Rent Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,467	Originally Posted by Gravy "I owe you for that stuff in the fancy decanter. I drank it last night." While, I did laugh at this, I did so, while holding down my lunch! Good one!shivers
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12th October 2006, 02:31 PM	#10
kc440_ Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 248	Marilyn Originally Posted by Spindrift Maybe it was Marilyn's ashes. I don't think it's funny. She's entombed in Westwood Memorial Cemetery in L.A. And Gravy, please don't play semantics with me. What are you trying to prove? kc440
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12th October 2006, 02:41 PM	#11
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by kc440_ I don't think it's funny. She's entombed in Westwood Memorial Cemetery in L.A. And Gravy, please don't play semantics with me. What are you trying to prove? kc440 Why so upset? I made a grammatical correction to a confusing thread title.
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12th October 2006, 02:42 PM	#13
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by kc440_ I don't think it's funny. She's entombed in Westwood Memorial Cemetery in L.A. No, she's not. Arthur Miller had her reinterred in Green-Wood cemetery in Brooklyn.
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12th October 2006, 03:22 PM	#14
kc440_ Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 248	Whatttttttttt??????????? Originally Posted by Gravy No, she's not. Arthur Miller had her reinterred in Green-Wood cemetery in Brooklyn. You have to be kidding. Miller didn't go to the funeral. Finally, Joe DiMaggio stepped forward, claimed her and blocked her Hollywood friends from attending. I think you're joking. kc440
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12th October 2006, 03:46 PM	#16
dirtywick Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,719	It is interesting. I can't imagine why Robert Kennedy would even want custody of his brain, or for that matter why anyone cares where his brain is currently and why anyone would go to the trouble of trying to track it down. Just creepy, man.

12th October 2006, 04:07 PM	#17
bjb Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,079	These guys in Westwood seem to think they have Marilyn's remains. I'm pretty sure Lee Strasberg wound up with Marilyn's posessions and they were in storage in New York for many years.
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Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,486	Originally Posted by kc440_ I don't think it's funny. She's entombed in Westwood Memorial Cemetery in L.A. And Gravy, please don't play semantics with me. What are you trying to prove? kc440 Well, claiming the gubmint killed 3000 people is appropriate.
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Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by kc440_ You have to be kidding. Miller didn't go to the funeral. Finally, Joe DiMaggio stepped forward, claimed her and blocked her Hollywood friends from attending. I think you're joking. kc440 No joke, kc. It's true.
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12th October 2006, 06:04 PM	#20
senorpogo Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,094	Originally Posted by kc440_ This activity took place in the middle of the night Yes, because things that happen at night are intrinsically more sinister. This is comparable to Robert Irsay moving the Colts out of Baltimore in the wee hours of the morning. I wonder if the National Guards used Mayflower too?
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12th October 2006, 06:58 PM	#21
yodaluver28 Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 323	The House Select Committee on Assassinations report stated that they believed that Robert Kennedy obtained "custody" of the brain but felt that there was no evidence to indicate that he had it reinterred with the body at Arlington. Their belief was that it was destroyed to prevent future public display.

12th October 2006, 07:03 PM	#22
Crungy Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 449	Originally Posted by senorpogo Yes, because things that happen at night are intrinsically more sinister. This is comparable to Robert Irsay moving the Colts out of Baltimore in the wee hours of the morning. I wonder if the National Guards used Mayflower too? Off topic here with a quick post. When I got my first job out of college, Irsay's brother (I can't remember his name at the moment) was still working. I'm guessing that he was in his mid to late 60s. He was a HVAC vendor in the Chicago area. When I found out that he was Robert's brother, I hinted about getting some Colts tickets. Man did he hate his brother! They had a big falling out over taking care of their mother, and hadn't spoken to each other for years. He was one funny dude though. Old school all the way. Swore like hell, liked a martini lunch and thought that all of the female engineers in the office were some type of administrative assistants.
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Regnad Kcin Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The ol' Same place Posts: 6,222	Originally Posted by Gravy No, she's not. Arthur Miller had her reinterred in Green-Wood cemetery in Brooklyn. Originally Posted by kc440_ You have to be kidding. Miller didn't go to the funeral. Finally, Joe DiMaggio stepped forward, claimed her and blocked her Hollywood friends from attending. I think you're joking. Careful, kc440, you're dealing with the Jedi master of NYC historic information.
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Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin Careful, kc440, you're dealing with the Jedi master of NYC historic information. Just between you and me, I forgot to put "It's true!" after my statement.
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kc440_ Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 248	Originally Posted by Gravy I do think it's interesting, as trivia goes. The House Select Committee tried to trace the brain and other autopsy samples. RFK apparently did take possession of them, but he hasn't acknowledged doing so, AFAIK. My fear is that one morning Teddy told Robert, "I owe you for that stuff in the fancy decanter. I drank it last night." I don't think a slaughtered president's brain and whereabouts constitutes "trivia." kc440
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Brainache Nasty Brutish and Tall Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Knob Hill. Posts: 9,086	Originally Posted by kc440_ I don't think a slaughtered president's brain and whereabouts constitutes "trivia." kc440 Well I suppose it could be correctly described as "apocrypha". But really what possible significance could it have, unless there is some wacky scheme to re-animate JFK using what's left of his pickled grey matter?
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