chi master's powers include the ability to make you dance away from him

Skepiroth · 21st October 2006, 09:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3psYEPYaBo

If the JREF would like to fly me to where ever this guy lives to fight him and prove him wrong, I'd be very happy to do so :-p (free vacation to Asia)

P.S. I won't be as nice as the Aussies who fought Yellow Bamboo

Goshawk · 21st October 2006, 09:39 PM

I saw something very similar last year on PBS's Great Performances, I think it was Merce Cunningham.

Seriously, though, how come his chi power, in pushing them away from him, doesn't simply knock them on their tailbones, as would happen if he physically shoved them with his hands? The balletic barrel rolls are, to my mind, a dead giveaway that they're doing it themselves, not that he's pushing them. It's what's known as "physics".

Not that I think devotees care, but still...

Skepiroth · 21st October 2006, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Goshawk

I saw something very similar last year on PBS's Great Performances, I think it was Merce Cunningham.

Seriously, though, how come his chi power, in pushing them away from him, doesn't simply knock them on their tailbones, as would happen if he physically shoved them with his hands? The balletic barrel rolls are, to my mind, a dead giveaway that they're doing it themselves, not that he's pushing them. It's what's known as "physics".

Not that I think devotees care, but still...

You just don't get it... he has THAT much chi power to waste

osmosis · 21st October 2006, 10:22 PM

That looks like fun.

Operaider · 21st October 2006, 10:46 PM

There was a great master that taught students in the ghettos of Harlem back in the 80's that was said to be able to posses this power.

With a single wave of his hand his students would go through acrobatic contortions, even so far as to be knocked into flips or spun on their head.

Thus is the history of break dancing.

Operaider · 21st October 2006, 10:57 PM

2 things

If this guy is able to exert so much energy and knock someone as far away as he claims. Shouldn't he be able to exert the same energy on the ground and lift his ass a good 20 feet off the ground. Why doesn't he do that?

Secondly, my favorite part of that video happens a little before the 1/2 point of the film. When the student clearly misses his "you flip away now" cue and needs to be shoved.

Zep · 22nd October 2006, 06:42 AM

In India, this sort of dreadful and low-grade overacting is actually taken seriously.

Horatius · 22nd October 2006, 07:16 AM

And, if it's real, why do the two guys react so differently? One guy goes bouncing up and down, with his legs flying all over the place, while the other guy just stumbles really dramatically, without ever doing any "hopping". If it was a real force, you'd expect the effects to be more consistent.

Dazed · 22nd October 2006, 08:29 AM

There's no way its real. Who are these 2 hired goons?

Horatius · 22nd October 2006, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dazed

There's no way its real. Who are these 2 hired goons?

I think you meant "goofs" there. I actually respect a good goon.

Grimoire · 22nd October 2006, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Zep

In India, this sort of dreadful and low-grade overacting is actually taken seriously.

Yeah, they call them music videos...

But really, does anyone look at that video and seriously think it is real? I'd love to see him try that on Chuck Liddell...

Zep · 23rd October 2006, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by Grimoire

Yeah, they call them music videos...

Alas, I'm being quite serious.

In India and Pakistan, if something "scientific" is recorded on media of some kind, e.g. "on film" or "in print" or "on the internet", then it is taken as being valid data at face value, no matter how illogical and amusing we may think it obviously is. And the act of debunking is considered somehow so IMpolite that it is rarely, if ever, attempted. Something about loss of face, I guess.

The homeopaths of those two countries do a roaring trade on this basis alone. And they know it, because they also believe that if they simply and deliberately ignore evidence contrary to their position then they haven't been proven wrong, so they must still be right. That is, they stick their collective fingers in their ears and go "La la la I can't hear you".

mgdwcb · 23rd October 2006, 10:11 AM

That video is quite sad, as Wing Chun is a rather physical martial art. If you get hit hard by a Wing Chun practitioner you may fall down or double up in pain but you won't skip backwards twenty feet and come back for more, unhurt. Bruce Lee would turn in his grave to see such a thing.

21st October 2006, 09:31 PM	#1
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21st October 2006, 09:57 PM	#3
Skepiroth Thinker Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 129	Originally Posted by Goshawk I saw something very similar last year on PBS's Great Performances, I think it was Merce Cunningham. Seriously, though, how come his chi power, in pushing them away from him, doesn't simply knock them on their tailbones, as would happen if he physically shoved them with his hands? The balletic barrel rolls are, to my mind, a dead giveaway that they're doing it themselves, not that he's pushing them. It's what's known as "physics". Not that I think devotees care, but still... You just don't get it... he has THAT much chi power to waste
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Operaider Muse Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 914	There was a great master that taught students in the ghettos of Harlem back in the 80's that was said to be able to posses this power. With a single wave of his hand his students would go through acrobatic contortions, even so far as to be knocked into flips or spun on their head. Thus is the history of break dancing.
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Operaider Muse Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 914	2 things If this guy is able to exert so much energy and knock someone as far away as he claims. Shouldn't he be able to exert the same energy on the ground and lift his ass a good 20 feet off the ground. Why doesn't he do that? Secondly, my favorite part of that video happens a little before the 1/2 point of the film. When the student clearly misses his "you flip away now" cue and needs to be shoved.
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21st October 2006, 09:39 PM	#2
Goshawk Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Decatur, Illinois, USA Posts: 1,453	I saw something very similar last year on PBS's Great Performances, I think it was Merce Cunningham. Seriously, though, how come his chi power, in pushing them away from him, doesn't simply knock them on their tailbones, as would happen if he physically shoved them with his hands? The balletic barrel rolls are, to my mind, a dead giveaway that they're doing it themselves, not that he's pushing them. It's what's known as "physics". Not that I think devotees care, but still...

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osmosis Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 443	That looks like fun.

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Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,890	And, if it's real, why do the two guys react so differently? One guy goes bouncing up and down, with his legs flying all over the place, while the other guy just stumbles really dramatically, without ever doing any "hopping". If it was a real force, you'd expect the effects to be more consistent.
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Dazed Muse Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 586	There's no way its real. Who are these 2 hired goons?
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22nd October 2006, 06:16 PM	#10
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,890	Originally Posted by Dazed There's no way its real. Who are these 2 hired goons? I think you meant "goofs" there. I actually respect a good goon.
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22nd October 2006, 11:48 PM	#11
Grimoire Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 382	Originally Posted by Zep In India, this sort of dreadful and low-grade overacting is actually taken seriously. Yeah, they call them music videos... But really, does anyone look at that video and seriously think it is real? I'd love to see him try that on Chuck Liddell...
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23rd October 2006, 01:33 AM	#12
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	Originally Posted by Grimoire Yeah, they call them music videos... Alas, I'm being quite serious. In India and Pakistan, if something "scientific" is recorded on media of some kind, e.g. "on film" or "in print" or "on the internet", then it is taken as being valid data at face value, no matter how illogical and amusing we may think it obviously is. And the act of debunking is considered somehow so IMpolite that it is rarely, if ever, attempted. Something about loss of face, I guess. The homeopaths of those two countries do a roaring trade on this basis alone. And they know it, because they also believe that if they simply and deliberately ignore evidence contrary to their position then they haven't been proven wrong, so they must still be right. That is, they stick their collective fingers in their ears and go "La la la I can't hear you".
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23rd October 2006, 10:11 AM	#13
mgdwcb Student Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 34	That video is quite sad, as Wing Chun is a rather physical martial art. If you get hit hard by a Wing Chun practitioner you may fall down or double up in pain but you won't skip backwards twenty feet and come back for more, unhurt. Bruce Lee would turn in his grave to see such a thing.
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