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Mephisto · 30th October 2006, 06:13 AM

. . . and I hope your Halloween concert is a hit (maybe I should say success

)!

St. Louis named most dangerous U.S. city

POSTED: 8:28 a.m. EST, October 30, 2006

ST. LOUIS, Missouri (AP) -- A surge in violence made St. Louis the most dangerous city in the country, leading a trend of violent crimes rising much faster in the Midwest than in the rest of nation, according to an annual list.

The city has long fared poorly in the rankings of the safest and most dangerous American cities compiled by Morgan Quitno Press. Violent crime surged nearly 20 percent in St. Louis from 2004 to last year, when the rate of such crimes rose most dramatically in the Midwest, according to FBI figures released in June.

"It's just sad the way this city is," resident Sam Dawson said. "On the news you hear killings, someone's been shot."

The ranking, being released Monday, came as the city was still celebrating Friday's World Series victory at the new Busch Stadium. St. Louis has been spending millions of dollars on urban renewal even as the crime rate climbs.

Mayor Francis Slay did not return calls to his office seeking comment Sunday.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/30/cit....ap/index.html

Charlie Monoxide · 30th October 2006, 06:26 AM

We're doing our darndest here in Orlando to unseat St Louis as murder central ....

Charlie (stand your ground law) Monoxide

Upchurch · 30th October 2006, 06:34 AM

St. Louis is where the action is, be it baseballs or bullets.

Doubt · 30th October 2006, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

St. Louis is where the action is, be it baseballs or bullets.

We used to say that about Detroit.

Here is an offer for you. You can keep winning the World Series if you also keep getting higher crime stats than Detroit. Deal or no Deal?

Upchurch · 30th October 2006, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Doubt

Here is an offer for you. You can keep winning the World Series if you also keep getting higher crime stats than Detroit. Deal or no Deal?

Honestly? Most Cards fans would accept that deal. They are just that crazy fanatical.

Upchurch · 30th October 2006, 07:19 AM

A little more seriously, if St. Louis is the most dangerous U.S. city, then the U.S. is in really good shape.

Mephisto · 30th October 2006, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

A little more seriously, if St. Louis is the most dangerous U.S. city, then the U.S. is in really good shape.

Although I've never been there, I've never thought of St. Louis as the seething, underbelly of crime. I suppose you may be right, but we'll know the truth when Grand Theft Auto comes out with – GTF, Seething St. Louis!

Mephisto · 30th October 2006, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

A little more seriously, if St. Louis is the most dangerous U.S. city, then the U.S. is in really good shape.

Although I've never been there, I've never thought of St. Louis as the seething, underbelly of crime. I suppose you may be right, but we'll know the truth when Grand Theft Auto comes out with – GTA, Seething St. Louis!

Cello Man · 30th October 2006, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Doubt

We used to say that about Detroit.

"Take him to Detroit!"

Arkan_Wolfshade · 30th October 2006, 07:56 AM

My understanding that Camden is thrilled that they dropped to #5 on the list.

Mephisto · 30th October 2006, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Cello Man

http://www.briantimpe.com/images/DrKlahn.jpg
"Take him to Detroit!"

HA! I thought I was the only person in the world who quoted the evil Dr. Klan (Bong Soo Han). You have my gratitude!

Hutch · 30th October 2006, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

A little more seriously, if St. Louis is the most dangerous U.S. city, then the U.S. is in really good shape.

You don't spend much time on the North Side, do you?

Nor do you take walks along the Riverfront or Downtown at Night, I think. ...

Seriously, most of the people in the metro area live in nearby suburbs (ex-Florissant resident here) and the City population has been shrinking for decades. So it doesn't surprise me much.

They published the entire 371-city list in The Huntsville Times this morning. Safest city is Brick, New Jersey. My town (Huntsville, AL) is #278, which surprises me a bit.

30th October 2006, 06:13 AM	#1
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Be Careful, Upchurch . . . . . . and I hope your Halloween concert is a hit (maybe I should say success )! St. Louis named most dangerous U.S. city POSTED: 8:28 a.m. EST, October 30, 2006 ST. LOUIS, Missouri (AP) -- A surge in violence made St. Louis the most dangerous city in the country, leading a trend of violent crimes rising much faster in the Midwest than in the rest of nation, according to an annual list. The city has long fared poorly in the rankings of the safest and most dangerous American cities compiled by Morgan Quitno Press. Violent crime surged nearly 20 percent in St. Louis from 2004 to last year, when the rate of such crimes rose most dramatically in the Midwest, according to FBI figures released in June. "It's just sad the way this city is," resident Sam Dawson said. "On the news you hear killings, someone's been shot." The ranking, being released Monday, came as the city was still celebrating Friday's World Series victory at the new Busch Stadium. St. Louis has been spending millions of dollars on urban renewal even as the crime rate climbs. Mayor Francis Slay did not return calls to his office seeking comment Sunday. http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/30/cit....ap/index.html
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30th October 2006, 07:09 AM	#4
Doubt Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 5,485	Originally Posted by Upchurch St. Louis is where the action is, be it baseballs or bullets. We used to say that about Detroit. Here is an offer for you. You can keep winning the World Series if you also keep getting higher crime stats than Detroit. Deal or no Deal?
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30th October 2006, 07:28 AM	#7
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by Upchurch A little more seriously, if St. Louis is the most dangerous U.S. city, then the U.S. is in really good shape. Although I've never been there, I've never thought of St. Louis as the seething, underbelly of crime. I suppose you may be right, but we'll know the truth when Grand Theft Auto comes out with – GTF, Seething St. Louis!
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30th October 2006, 07:30 AM	#8
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by Upchurch A little more seriously, if St. Louis is the most dangerous U.S. city, then the U.S. is in really good shape. Although I've never been there, I've never thought of St. Louis as the seething, underbelly of crime. I suppose you may be right, but we'll know the truth when Grand Theft Auto comes out with – GTA, Seething St. Louis!
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30th October 2006, 07:56 AM	#10
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30th October 2006, 06:26 AM	#2
Charlie Monoxide Wag Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 2,761	We're doing our darndest here in Orlando to unseat St Louis as murder central .... Charlie (stand your ground law) Monoxide
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30th October 2006, 06:34 AM	#3
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 23,480	St. Louis is where the action is, be it baseballs or bullets.

30th October 2006, 07:18 AM	#5
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 23,480	Originally Posted by Doubt Here is an offer for you. You can keep winning the World Series if you also keep getting higher crime stats than Detroit. Deal or no Deal? Honestly? Most Cards fans would accept that deal. They are just that crazy fanatical.

30th October 2006, 07:19 AM	#6
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 23,480	A little more seriously, if St. Louis is the most dangerous U.S. city, then the U.S. is in really good shape.

30th October 2006, 07:54 AM	#9
Cello Man Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,035	Originally Posted by Doubt We used to say that about Detroit. "Take him to Detroit!"

30th October 2006, 08:18 AM	#11
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by Cello Man http://www.briantimpe.com/images/DrKlahn.jpg "Take him to Detroit!" HA! I thought I was the only person in the world who quoted the evil Dr. Klan (Bong Soo Han). You have my gratitude!
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30th October 2006, 09:38 AM	#12
Hutch A broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's Privateers Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: About 7 Miles from the Saturn 5B Posts: 6,561	Originally Posted by Upchurch A little more seriously, if St. Louis is the most dangerous U.S. city, then the U.S. is in really good shape. You don't spend much time on the North Side, do you? Nor do you take walks along the Riverfront or Downtown at Night, I think. ... Seriously, most of the people in the metro area live in nearby suburbs (ex-Florissant resident here) and the City population has been shrinking for decades. So it doesn't surprise me much. They published the entire 371-city list in The Huntsville Times this morning. Safest city is Brick, New Jersey. My town (Huntsville, AL) is #278, which surprises me a bit.
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