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Alex Jones = Zee New Hitler?
Well they can go around labelling debunkers as "sheep", I can label their idiot hero as Hitler.
Besides going around dehumanizing his opponents (Satan Worshippers), labelling those who disagree with him as "Nazis" (gun control advocates) or "sheep" (9/11 debunkers), and creating numerous films to create wealth.. He is also getting them while they are young. http://www.infowars.com/articles/sep...11_website.htm A ten-year old calls AJ's show about how he was disciplined for visiting infowars.com. Now I don't know why a 10-year old would be a so interested in 9/11 that he would go to Infowars.com, so something is fishy. But I still believe that AJ is following the methods of a certain german leader. Should we start calling these kids the "Jones Youth" now? Maybe they can wear nice boyscout-like uniforms also and have promotional videos in black-and-white. |
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hmm, i should finish the paper was writing on Das WarheitJunge (Truth Youth, for the non-olivers) lol
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Well, if that story is more than 2% correct, I'll be surprised...
The uniform could be nice black t-shirts, sunglasses, caps, and bullhorns. (Not really a fan of comparing people to Hitler myself, but you do have some points) |
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Didn't Hitler believe there was some kind of secret takeover going on, run by an evil cabal of international bankers? Didn't he believe these evildoers were behind all major wars and catastrophes--unbeknownst to the common run of people?
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Throw around all the labels you want
It's just that when you start comparing someone to Hitler, the debate goes off in unwanted directions. I believe the expression is "Hitling". And I think there is some difference: Hitler was a calculating madman, who wanted world power. Jones is a lunatic, who wants attention. |
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Point taken, O Wise Squirrel. If Alex tried to invade Poland, Poland would kick his ass.
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I could argue that Hitler had always sought something that would make him feel special or superior, but not world conquering. Politics came as his third choice after art and architecture, how would the world look if one of those schools had taken him?
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Nazis on the brain
For his own part, Alex Jones really has Nazis on the brain--including Hitler on the brain.
If you work for the government, you'll not escape the lash of Alex's tongue for very long. I'm sure every govenrment clerk in Austin has been called a Nazi, if not Hitler himself, by one of Alex's furry minions here in town. Austin, Texas, from where I write, is full of Alex Jones's furry admirers, in case you didn't know. They are mostly angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80's. But there's no need to stop with government officials. Alex has gone so far as to declare that anyone in favor of gun control is a Nazi. If you count anyone who favors mandatory handgun registration, that's around 90% of Americans. Lotta Nazis there, Alex. Are you sure you're a populist? I watch Alex Jones's cable TV show all the time (it's a karmic punishment), and I think the man has a major problem with name-calling in general, and calling people Nazis in particular. It's really only a matter of time before Alex Jones calls you and everyone you love and admire a Nazi. Poor Arnold Schwartzeneggar is apparently a Nazi--unbeknownst to the Kennedy family, unbeknownst to anybody but the people living in Alex's bad comic book. Alex backs up his slander of Arnie by citing Arnie's friendship with Kurt Waldheim, whom Alex also slanders as being a Nazi. That's one slander built upon another one, ladies and gentlemen. Now that's fighting the New World Order! So if Alex Jones gets called a Nazi or a new Hitler once in a while, it is unfortunate. But he should remember he started it. He should also be flattered. Would that Hitler had been no cleverer than Alex Jones. |
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So who are you at LCForum? PDOH started a thread about
your thread here and we are discussing who you are: Rei? |
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This is starting to feel like A Skanner Darkly.
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Perhaps Alex Jones would be more properly described as Herr Hootler, and his party the Nuzi party rather than the Nazi party.
Leaving that aside for a moment, if AJ has certain traits in common with The Real Hitler, how much further can we extrapolate the Truthers to the Third Reich? And should we abandon calling them Truthers and instead call them The Turd Reich? Clearly, Dylan Avery is Jones' Joseph Goebbels. The Goebbels technique, also known as argumentum ad nauseam, is the name given to a policy of repeating a point until it is taken to be the truth (see Big Lie). John Doe X is Hermann Goering. There was strong animosity between Goebbels and the popular Hermann Goering, whose political influence waned following his disastrous management of the Luftwaffe early during the war. This obliquely coincides with Dylan's removal of JDX from the moderatorship of the LC forums after LC's own Night of the Long Knives. Jason Bermas seems to be Martin Bormann. Despite his coarse and brutal personality, Bormann became the Party's regional press officer and business manager in 1928. Kory Rowe is possibly Eva Braun. I'm not entirely sure how accurate these comparisons may be, and there are probably other comparisons others could make that would be considered far more accurate. Thoughts? |
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its not meant to be a literal translation, the nazi youth corps was das hitlerjunge (at least from what my grandmother tells me, but then again she tries not to remember much from that time) im sorry if nazi grammar doesnt meet your standards :P
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Am I missing something here, or does the infowars site take the word of a ten year old kid as definitive proof re. censorship at his school, name the school, and not even contact the school for their response? Nice to see Jones is keeping up his usual journalistic standards - after all, fact-checking is for Nazis
How exactly does info wars avoid getting sued?
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die Hitlerjugend you listen and stop dong it wrong
got that, Jungmädel says stopsss or you will die heil Alex |
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http://www.missdewey.com/
miss dewey said alex has removed all doubt about his stupidity by opening his mouth |
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What is the point of this thread? I bet if I started a thread saying James Randi is a homosexual, I'd be instantly banned.
If the mods have any respect for the integrity of this forum, this thread will be locked. |
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Alex Jones uses the same techniques as NAZIs spreading his propaganda.
Would it be wrong to study tactics used to mislead people? Is Alex Jones a hero to some? I found everything he is into as a waste to any rational person. Has anyone found Alex to be a useful person for information? Am I wrong on the fact Alex is devoid of information useful for the rest of the world? As such he is only good to study and expose as some thing I can not describe... Is Dazed being ironic, or serious, and he thinks we are attacking Alex Jones? I will have to work on finding something that Alex has said that is useful. (kind of impossible since I get sick visiting PrisionPlanet and Infowars) |
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You may think you're being clever.
Alex Jones' character and credibility aside, this thread is pointless and inappropriate. This is not a debate comparing Alex Jone's propoganda techniques to the nazis, its an ad hominem plain and simple. |
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Could all treads thus be the same?
What is life? Alex Jones seems to mislead others, not so sure looking at Alex Jones would be pointless Not that Alex Jones would ever take over anything more than ambient noise; but if Germans had studied Hitler more and stood up and pointed out that he was an idiot, my dad would not have been a war hero for me. You are right we need to let Alex take over so we can have heroes. Top da thread Wait I am sorry if I joined what you may call a pointless thread. Please accept my humble apology. I have listened to Alex Jones, I have studied his tactics. After careful consideration he does remind me of the NAZI propaganda machine. Do you agree? I think young children need to be taught how to recognize possible fire fanning leaders and avoid being used and mislead. Any ideas how to train ordinary people to use judgment to avoid believing people like Alex Jones who use what seem to me to be NAZI like propaganda techniques? |
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Perry, you have a page about one of these guys who hates your country (I think it was about Alex, but not sure) in which you summed up all his insults from his film (and they where a lot) and used them against him. I hope you understand what page I'm talking about? Could you link to it, please?
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Alex Jones uses techniques of propaganda like those of Hitler and his NAZI propaganda machine. My opinion based on the evidence of comparing how Alex says things and how they are like the propaganda techniques of NAZIs and Hitler.
That is a direct parallel and I studied Alex and the NAZI technique to draw that parallel with supporting evidence of they use the same techniques. I am not talking about how many bugs Alex killed vs Hitler. I am not talking about their weight. I am not talking about their goals. I am talking about how I think after looking at Alex rhetoric and NAZI rhetoric technique. I think they use the same type of propaganda techniques. How they say things. Not how Alex kills the truth compared to how Hitler kills his rivals. Just how they use propaganda to spread their word, some of the techniques. And the thread starts with the indoctrination of a kid, listening to Alex Jones (or looking at the internet) comparing to Hitler youth. I just threw in my thoughts when reading Alex Jones, then I read some of the NAZI propaganda techniques. I thought they were similar. I am now sharing with you, with out misleading you, I think after comparing Alex Jones stuff to NAZI propaganda techniques I find that Alex is using NAZI propaganda techniques. I do not know if Alex is a NAZI, or a want to be Hitler. Do you? |
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Nope, the real new Hitler is a black man named Vernon Robinson. If you have ever actually heard his political ads, you would know what I'm talking about. He was a candidate in NC that even the republicans didn't want.
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