The MIHOP scenario

Oliver · 9th November 2006, 04:56 AM

I´m discussing the MIHOP scenario at the loose change board
and i would appreciate if you could complete my scenario so far:

_____________________________________________

The problem i have is this:

I try to be the conspirator right now and i´m planning
to destroy the WTC:

How can i execute my plans the best way? Let´s see:
the 93 bombing is still in peoples mind and people believe
it was AQ.

The best thing would be to blow it with bombs, film the
whole mess by installing a crew at the building making
a documentary and say AQ did it again.

No one would doubt it.

But this is to easy. We need some planes for no
reason to attract the whole world and as much
cameras as possible to hide our secret inside job.

Then we crash no plane into nowhere at shanksville
and we say nevertheless it was a plane.

We blow up the highest buildings at the WTC-site
and make it look like controlled demolitions.

We also crash no plane into the pentagon but to
make it as authentic and believable as possible we
say it was a plane nevertheless.

Then we forget to involve our CIA-Osama and because
we forgot it and because we forgot that he is available
to make some cool footage, we have to fake some lousy,
doubtable video-evidence.

We also forget to start an own investigation that
affirms that the AQ-Gang did it without doubts...

We forget to put Osama on top of the FBI-most
wanted list and we forget the Hijackers that are
well and alive.

We also forget to think about why we are blowing
up the WTC and therefore we need to fake the
WMD evidence to go to war.

Seriously: Who writes this stuff?

Nothing personal at all. I simply don´t get it.

_____________________________________________

Cheers,
Oliver

Oliver · 9th November 2006, 07:14 AM

*bumb* for the creationists in here.

Oliver · 11th November 2006, 01:09 PM

Hello?

T.A.M. · 11th November 2006, 01:30 PM

Hello Olie. Convo on this top seems light.

TAM

T.A.M. · 11th November 2006, 01:39 PM

Here is what the MIHOP situation is like:

[MIHOP]
Several years prior to 9/11/2001, members of an elite, neo-conservative think tank, PNAC, collaborated to pull off the greatest "false flag" operation in the history of the world.

Using there contacts within the foreign intelligence agencies, they were able to set up a "patsy" group of would be terrorists to use as scapegoats for what would be a multipronged attack on US soil.

Then it gets confusing, because we have no proof, so we have created several possibilities:

(1)
The hijackers would be set to board jet airliners on september 11th, 2001, under the pretense of hijacking the aircrafts. This however, is not what would occur. The craft were remotely operated, and were flown into their various targets via remote control. All passengers and hijackers on board killed.

OR

(2) The alleged hijackers were simply chosen foreign nationals, who along with the passengers of the various aircraft, were without any knowledge of the attacks. They were taken to a secret location, dumped off, and then drone crafts replaced the flights, and these planes hit their targets, or crashed.

OR

(3) Same as (2), but the planes don't actually hit their targets, but rather they use klingon cloaking technology and disappear just as they are to hit the buildings, missiles from them hitting the targets instead.

OR

(4) The crashes of all the attacks were CGI fakery, and preplanted explosives caused all the explosions/impacts.

Of course there are many other possibilities, but we are only asking questions.

[/MIHOP]

TAM

Alt+F4 · 11th November 2006, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

(4) The crashes of all the attacks were CGI fakery, and preplanted explosives caused all the explosions/impacts.

You forgot about the mass hypnosis for all the eye witnesses.

Pipirr · 11th November 2006, 02:24 PM

MIHOP
Make it happen on purpose
LIHOP
Let it happen on purpose

...For those out there who don't speak CT.
I had to google it...

T.A.M. · 11th November 2006, 06:23 PM

Pipirr:

Yah, thats correct. I also use LIHOI (Let It Happen Out of Incompetence/Ignorance)

TAM

Garb · 11th November 2006, 08:25 PM

Question: Is is possible to make it happen on accident?

chacal · 11th November 2006, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Garb

Question: Is is possible to make it happen on accident?

Well yeah, mayby they just didn't mean it... huh?

Oliver · 13th November 2006, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Garb

Question: Is is possible to make it happen on accident?

How would the MIHOA-scenario look like? They planned
9/11 but everything went wrong?

Horatius · 13th November 2006, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Oliver

How would the MIHOA-scenario look like? They planned
9/11 but everything went wrong?

They had planned a dramatic scene of heroic FBI agents catching the Terrorists in the act, and saving the day, but the lead agent slept in that day due to having a cold, so they missed it.....

jhunter1163 · 13th November 2006, 10:06 AM

Even thinking about the possibilities gets zither music going in my head.. must make it stop...

Brainster · 13th November 2006, 10:25 AM

What you have to remember is that the conspiracy theory is constructed backwards, so it always looks a little oddball if you try to analyze it from the front.

The CT crowd starts with the conclusion: Bush & Cheney did it. Then they trace backwards through the evidence looking for something that seems to fit that conclusion. Everything that doesn't fit gets thrown into the "we can explain a lot but we can't explain everything" bin.

Of course, their scenario has to fit the events of that day to a certain degree; any CT that doesn't end with the WTC demolished, the Pentagon damaged and a hole in the ground in Shanksville isn't going to get very many adherents.

fuelair · 13th November 2006, 10:26 AM

I prefer the IHOP conspiracy wherein we find pigs in a blanket smothered in Maple syrup trying to undermine the gubmint!

Stankeye · 13th November 2006, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by fuelair

I prefer the IHOP conspiracy wherein we find pigs in a blanket smothered in Maple syrup trying to undermine the gubmint!

Signed. We need a website though!

I loves them pigs in the blanket.

uk_dave · 13th November 2006, 11:53 AM

Ok here's my MIHOP theory:

Evil government/nwo types want to start some wars in the mid-east to get control of oil. They also want to oppress their own people at home with new draconian laws.

Fake evil bogeyman al queada has been created and nurtured by evil government/nwo because:
1. they hijack a religion known for it's followers devotion and so can easily persuade a few impressionable peasants to carry out attrocities in the mistaken belief that it is the will of their chosen god
2. they have an in-built 'western' style enemy in Israel with israelis who look and speak just like us and so can be easily manipulated to be the victims of the evil AQ bogeyman
3. they inhabit a part of the world where people still have bits chopped off if they commit a crime and this is extremely abhorrent to the western sensibility
4. they're cheap

Evil plot is hatched to use fake evil AQ bogeyman as cover for an attack on the mainland USA, which can then be used as an excuse to steal oil, spread democracy and chop bits off people.

Evil scientists working for evil government/nwo have developed remote piloting systems for planes, trains and automobiles, along with beam weapons and sanitary towels with wings.

Evil government/nwo decide to use the evil product of the evil scietists endeavours to cunningly take control of a passenger plane and fly it to a secret location where the passengers will all be given new identities before being shot whilst at the same time and without anyone noticing they will substitute the passenger planes with remote piloted planes carrying cadavers and a pod under each wing which, as the plane is flown into the wtc towers, the pod explodes (or implodes depending on the quality of the streaming video) thus scattering pristine passports, financial documents and videotaped confessions over the area of downtown manhatten, while at the same time a cunningly plotted plot to install explosives comes into play some time in the early seventies when the buildings are built (or constructed) with large amounts of explosives around their soft bits because one just never knows when a secretly plotted evil plot might need to be plotted at short notice to demolish buildings which are suffering from termite damage.

Oh, and no one says anything because they signed confidentiality statements.

Easy!

Garb · 13th November 2006, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

What you have to remember is that the conspiracy theory is constructed backwards, so it always looks a little oddball if you try to analyze it from the front.

The CT crowd starts with the conclusion: Bush & Cheney did it. Then they trace backwards through the evidence looking for something that seems to fit that conclusion. Everything that doesn't fit gets thrown into the "we can explain a lot but we can't explain everything" bin.

Of course, their scenario has to fit the events of that day to a certain degree; any CT that doesn't end with the WTC demolished, the Pentagon damaged and a hole in the ground in Shanksville isn't going to get very many adherents.

That must be a really big bin...

9th November 2006, 04:56 AM	#1
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	The MIHOP scenario I´m discussing the MIHOP scenario at the loose change board and i would appreciate if you could complete my scenario so far: _____________________________________________ The problem i have is this: I try to be the conspirator right now and i´m planning to destroy the WTC: How can i execute my plans the best way? Let´s see: the 93 bombing is still in peoples mind and people believe it was AQ. The best thing would be to blow it with bombs, film the whole mess by installing a crew at the building making a documentary and say AQ did it again. No one would doubt it. But this is to easy. We need some planes for no reason to attract the whole world and as much cameras as possible to hide our secret inside job. Then we crash no plane into nowhere at shanksville and we say nevertheless it was a plane. We blow up the highest buildings at the WTC-site and make it look like controlled demolitions. We also crash no plane into the pentagon but to make it as authentic and believable as possible we say it was a plane nevertheless. Then we forget to involve our CIA-Osama and because we forgot it and because we forgot that he is available to make some cool footage, we have to fake some lousy, doubtable video-evidence. We also forget to start an own investigation that affirms that the AQ-Gang did it without doubts... We forget to put Osama on top of the FBI-most wanted list and we forget the Hijackers that are well and alive. We also forget to think about why we are blowing up the WTC and therefore we need to fake the WMD evidence to go to war. Seriously: Who writes this stuff? Nothing personal at all. I simply don´t get it. _____________________________________________ Cheers, Oliver
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11th November 2006, 01:53 PM	#6
Alt+F4 diabolical globalist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Department of Abandoned Places Posts: 9,780	Originally Posted by T.A.M. (4) The crashes of all the attacks were CGI fakery, and preplanted explosives caused all the explosions/impacts. You forgot about the mass hypnosis for all the eye witnesses.
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11th November 2006, 08:25 PM	#9
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11th November 2006, 10:03 PM	#10
chacal starving artist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 150	Originally Posted by Garb Question: Is is possible to make it happen on accident? Well yeah, mayby they just didn't mean it... huh?
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13th November 2006, 07:55 AM	#12
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,890	Originally Posted by Oliver How would the MIHOA-scenario look like? They planned 9/11 but everything went wrong? They had planned a dramatic scene of heroic FBI agents catching the Terrorists in the act, and saving the day, but the lead agent slept in that day due to having a cold, so they missed it.....
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9th November 2006, 07:14 AM	#2
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	bumb for the creationists in here.
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11th November 2006, 01:09 PM	#3
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Hello?
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11th November 2006, 01:30 PM	#4
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Hello Olie. Convo on this top seems light. TAM

11th November 2006, 01:39 PM	#5
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Here is what the MIHOP situation is like: [MIHOP] Several years prior to 9/11/2001, members of an elite, neo-conservative think tank, PNAC, collaborated to pull off the greatest "false flag" operation in the history of the world. Using there contacts within the foreign intelligence agencies, they were able to set up a "patsy" group of would be terrorists to use as scapegoats for what would be a multipronged attack on US soil. Then it gets confusing, because we have no proof, so we have created several possibilities: (1) The hijackers would be set to board jet airliners on september 11th, 2001, under the pretense of hijacking the aircrafts. This however, is not what would occur. The craft were remotely operated, and were flown into their various targets via remote control. All passengers and hijackers on board killed. OR (2) The alleged hijackers were simply chosen foreign nationals, who along with the passengers of the various aircraft, were without any knowledge of the attacks. They were taken to a secret location, dumped off, and then drone crafts replaced the flights, and these planes hit their targets, or crashed. OR (3) Same as (2), but the planes don't actually hit their targets, but rather they use klingon cloaking technology and disappear just as they are to hit the buildings, missiles from them hitting the targets instead. OR (4) The crashes of all the attacks were CGI fakery, and preplanted explosives caused all the explosions/impacts. Of course there are many other possibilities, but we are only asking questions. [/MIHOP] TAM

11th November 2006, 02:24 PM	#7
Pipirr Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Posts: 1,457	MIHOP Make it happen on purpose LIHOP Let it happen on purpose ...For those out there who don't speak CT. I had to google it...

11th November 2006, 06:23 PM	#8
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Pipirr: Yah, thats correct. I also use LIHOI (Let It Happen Out of Incompetence/Ignorance) TAM

13th November 2006, 06:37 AM	#11
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Originally Posted by Garb Question: Is is possible to make it happen on accident? How would the MIHOA-scenario look like? They planned 9/11 but everything went wrong?
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13th November 2006, 10:06 AM	#13
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,576	Even thinking about the possibilities gets zither music going in my head.. must make it stop...

13th November 2006, 10:25 AM	#14
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,426	What you have to remember is that the conspiracy theory is constructed backwards, so it always looks a little oddball if you try to analyze it from the front. The CT crowd starts with the conclusion: Bush & Cheney did it. Then they trace backwards through the evidence looking for something that seems to fit that conclusion. Everything that doesn't fit gets thrown into the "we can explain a lot but we can't explain everything" bin. Of course, their scenario has to fit the events of that day to a certain degree; any CT that doesn't end with the WTC demolished, the Pentagon damaged and a hole in the ground in Shanksville isn't going to get very many adherents.
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13th November 2006, 10:26 AM	#15
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,932	I prefer the IHOP conspiracy wherein we find pigs in a blanket smothered in Maple syrup trying to undermine the gubmint!
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13th November 2006, 10:42 AM	#16
Stankeye Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CA, USA Posts: 149	Originally Posted by fuelair I prefer the IHOP conspiracy wherein we find pigs in a blanket smothered in Maple syrup trying to undermine the gubmint! Signed. We need a website though! I loves them pigs in the blanket.

13th November 2006, 11:53 AM	#17
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866	Ok here's my MIHOP theory: Evil government/nwo types want to start some wars in the mid-east to get control of oil. They also want to oppress their own people at home with new draconian laws. Fake evil bogeyman al queada has been created and nurtured by evil government/nwo because: 1. they hijack a religion known for it's followers devotion and so can easily persuade a few impressionable peasants to carry out attrocities in the mistaken belief that it is the will of their chosen god 2. they have an in-built 'western' style enemy in Israel with israelis who look and speak just like us and so can be easily manipulated to be the victims of the evil AQ bogeyman 3. they inhabit a part of the world where people still have bits chopped off if they commit a crime and this is extremely abhorrent to the western sensibility 4. they're cheap Evil plot is hatched to use fake evil AQ bogeyman as cover for an attack on the mainland USA, which can then be used as an excuse to steal oil, spread democracy and chop bits off people. Evil scientists working for evil government/nwo have developed remote piloting systems for planes, trains and automobiles, along with beam weapons and sanitary towels with wings. Evil government/nwo decide to use the evil product of the evil scietists endeavours to cunningly take control of a passenger plane and fly it to a secret location where the passengers will all be given new identities before being shot whilst at the same time and without anyone noticing they will substitute the passenger planes with remote piloted planes carrying cadavers and a pod under each wing which, as the plane is flown into the wtc towers, the pod explodes (or implodes depending on the quality of the streaming video) thus scattering pristine passports, financial documents and videotaped confessions over the area of downtown manhatten, while at the same time a cunningly plotted plot to install explosives comes into play some time in the early seventies when the buildings are built (or constructed) with large amounts of explosives around their soft bits because one just never knows when a secretly plotted evil plot might need to be plotted at short notice to demolish buildings which are suffering from termite damage. Oh, and no one says anything because they signed confidentiality statements. Easy!
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13th November 2006, 03:15 PM	#18
Garb Muse Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 873	Originally Posted by Brainster What you have to remember is that the conspiracy theory is constructed backwards, so it always looks a little oddball if you try to analyze it from the front. The CT crowd starts with the conclusion: Bush & Cheney did it. Then they trace backwards through the evidence looking for something that seems to fit that conclusion. Everything that doesn't fit gets thrown into the "we can explain a lot but we can't explain everything" bin. Of course, their scenario has to fit the events of that day to a certain degree; any CT that doesn't end with the WTC demolished, the Pentagon damaged and a hole in the ground in Shanksville isn't going to get very many adherents. That must be a really big bin...
Garb Muse Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 873	__________________ When I changed to my new computer, I was worried about info on the old computer being used for identity theft and such. Folks said: "Just yank the hard drive" and somesuch. But I blew up the apartment. Only way to be safe. -kookbreaker