Women Pulled Apart

SirPhilip · 29th November 2006, 03:17 AM

I can't for the life of me, figure out how this could have been done, besides using two midgets:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=141d683e7a

Azrael 5 · 29th November 2006, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by SirPhilip

I can't for the life of me, figure out how this could have been done, besides using two midgets:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=141d683e7a

Kevin James did a similiar illusion once,and used two disabled/deformed people(dunno if they were actuallly midgets).Fooled no-one.Just a shock thing.Being Criss Angel we never saw the woman walking and was probably stooges involved also.

Orangutan · 29th November 2006, 11:02 AM

I thought you weren't to disclose secrets here. (Even if they stink!).

Azrael 5 · 29th November 2006, 02:00 PM

Hardly a secret though is it?

Garrette · 29th November 2006, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

Hardly a secret though is it?

Thumb tip?

firecoins · 29th November 2006, 03:00 PM

1 of the midget used bu KJ died. RIP half man

Winslow Leach · 1st December 2006, 08:34 AM

Notice that even though he asks both girls to pull, the blonde girl doesn't.

Merko · 1st December 2006, 09:03 AM

Well one of the girls does appear to have her legs amputated. I guess in theory she might have them curled up towards her chest, but she seems to be pretty good at crawling around with her hands. For the legs, well.. I'm not sure if they are real, but there should be enough space under that blanket to hide one slender, lithe woman.

I'm not sure what to think about these types of stunts. Comparable to 19th century 'freak shows', an eye-opener on disabilities, or just a perfectly legitimate way for disabled people to get some attention and draw an advantage out of their handicap?

Azrael 5 · 2nd December 2006, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by firecoins

1 of the midget used bu KJ died. RIP half man

I didn't know that! Wow!
RIP mini doctor!

Mick Houlahan · 6th December 2006, 11:41 PM

Shades of Johnny Eck!

treble_head · 8th December 2006, 09:24 PM

I don't like to disclose secrets either, so all I'll say is a perusal of the photographic works of Joel-Peter Witkin (monkeys and cadavers aside) may give some insight as to how this was done.

Calcas · 23rd December 2006, 05:02 PM

Criss Angel is bush league.

He is well known for his extensive use of post production editing for his TV show. In these types of "stunts", EVERYONE is in on it. They start with a normal girl, pause, and then bring in the amputee girl and the other one.

He doesn't even try to be that smart about it. If you watch most of his skits (Youtube, or elsewhere) you will notice that many of the SAME girl/guy in the crowd are in the same vids over and over.

He is entertaining though and a pretty good slight of hand guy. But, obviously, every one of his gigs are easily figured out.

Gulliamo · 2nd January 2007, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Merko

I'm not sure what to think about these types of stunts. Comparable to 19th century 'freak shows',

19th century? Been to Coney Island lately? They have "Shoot the Freak" out there for crying out loud!

mollyblack · 30th January 2007, 12:37 AM

I don't know. I love that Criss Angel has brought magic and such into the world. It was a pretty easy trick to figure out and listening to him talk about some of his tricks on Penn's radio show was fascinating. I love mentalism and my husband loves slight of hands. The one we're trying to figure out is when he got stabbed by the spikes of the fence. I know it's special effects, but I like the fact that it's still mind boggling for me. So few of his tricks are at this point (at least his slight of hands ones).

Garrette · 30th January 2007, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by mollyblack

I don't know. I love that Criss Angel has brought magic and such into the world. It was a pretty easy trick to figure out and listening to him talk about some of his tricks on Penn's radio show was fascinating. I love mentalism and my husband loves ~~slight~~ sleight of hands. The one we're trying to figure out is when he got stabbed by the spikes of the fence. I know it's special effects, but I like the fact that it's still mind boggling for me. So few of his tricks are at this point (at least his ~~slight~~ sleight of hands ones).

/pet peeve

And a cheery welcome to the forum!

Gulliamo · 1st February 2007, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Garrette

/pet peeve

And a cheery welcome to the forum!

In that case it should be "sleights of hand".

Welcome, don't worry, we're not usually grammar police.

Grimoire · 1st February 2007, 06:47 PM

Expect to see this guy in a Criss Angel act any day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8off-1xz6eQ

Garrette · 2nd February 2007, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by Gulliamo

In that case it should be "sleights of hand".

No, no.

Grammar should be practiced to the degree of rigidity that suits me. No more and no less.

My correction was mere politeness. Yours was extreme pedantry approaching cruelty and uselessness.

If everyone followed the unwritten "Garrette's Rules of Grammar" the world would be a better place.

Or I would be a happier man.

Same thing.

Azrael 5 · 3rd February 2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Garrette

No, no.

Grammar should be practiced to the degree of rigidity that suits me. No more and no less.

My correction was mere politeness. Yours was extreme pedantry approaching cruelty and uselessness.

If everyone followed the unwritten "Garrette's Rules of Grammar" the world would be a better place.

Or I would be a happier man.

Same thing.

Can you say blindfold..or pedant!

mollyblack · 9th February 2007, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Garrette

/pet peeve

And a cheery welcome to the forum!

I actually knew that, unfortunately I've been ill and not keeping up with my spelling. Or even my proper punctuation. Or even my getting photos from the TAM up in a timely fashion. Trust me, when you're this ill and even sitting up at your laptop to type is making you nauseous, you're least worried about slight vs sleight vs sleights, even if normally it would annoy you (or in this case, me) to the utmost degree.

Back to drinking water and hating anything that has to do with not laying very still.

Garrette · 9th February 2007, 11:52 AM

No excuses, Molly. It's perfection or nothing.

I will not let you slyde on thiss. Wee prid areselves on our profesyunulisam hear.

29th November 2006, 03:17 AM	#1
SirPhilip Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens, Ohio Posts: 2,444	Women Pulled Apart I can't for the life of me, figure out how this could have been done, besides using two midgets: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=141d683e7a
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29th November 2006, 10:56 AM	#2
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,219	Originally Posted by SirPhilip I can't for the life of me, figure out how this could have been done, besides using two midgets: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=141d683e7a Kevin James did a similiar illusion once,and used two disabled/deformed people(dunno if they were actuallly midgets).Fooled no-one.Just a shock thing.Being Criss Angel we never saw the woman walking and was probably stooges involved also.
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29th November 2006, 02:00 PM	#4
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,219	Hardly a secret though is it?
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29th November 2006, 02:33 PM	#5
Garrette Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,964	Originally Posted by Azrael 5 Hardly a secret though is it? Thumb tip?
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29th November 2006, 03:00 PM	#6
firecoins Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 3,065	1 of the midget used bu KJ died. RIP half man
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29th November 2006, 11:02 AM	#3
Orangutan Graduate Poster Tagger Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Florida. Posts: 1,163	I thought you weren't to disclose secrets here. (Even if they stink!).

1st December 2006, 08:34 AM	#7
Winslow Leach New Blood Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 16	Notice that even though he asks both girls to pull, the blonde girl doesn't.
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1st December 2006, 09:03 AM	#8
Merko Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,336	Well one of the girls does appear to have her legs amputated. I guess in theory she might have them curled up towards her chest, but she seems to be pretty good at crawling around with her hands. For the legs, well.. I'm not sure if they are real, but there should be enough space under that blanket to hide one slender, lithe woman. I'm not sure what to think about these types of stunts. Comparable to 19th century 'freak shows', an eye-opener on disabilities, or just a perfectly legitimate way for disabled people to get some attention and draw an advantage out of their handicap?
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2nd December 2006, 01:14 PM	#9
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,219	Originally Posted by firecoins 1 of the midget used bu KJ died. RIP half man I didn't know that! Wow! RIP mini doctor!
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6th December 2006, 11:41 PM	#10
Mick Houlahan Scholar Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chicago 'burbs Posts: 112	Shades of Johnny Eck!

8th December 2006, 09:24 PM	#11
treble_head Cupcake Loser Moron Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Assuming the party escort submission position. Posts: 10,790	I don't like to disclose secrets either, so all I'll say is a perusal of the photographic works of Joel-Peter Witkin (monkeys and cadavers aside) may give some insight as to how this was done.
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23rd December 2006, 05:02 PM	#12
Calcas Master of my Domain Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,472	Criss Angel is bush league. He is well known for his extensive use of post production editing for his TV show. In these types of "stunts", EVERYONE is in on it. They start with a normal girl, pause, and then bring in the amputee girl and the other one. He doesn't even try to be that smart about it. If you watch most of his skits (Youtube, or elsewhere) you will notice that many of the SAME girl/guy in the crowd are in the same vids over and over. He is entertaining though and a pretty good slight of hand guy. But, obviously, every one of his gigs are easily figured out.

2nd January 2007, 09:25 PM	#13
Gulliamo Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 488	Originally Posted by Merko I'm not sure what to think about these types of stunts. Comparable to 19th century 'freak shows', 19th century? Been to Coney Island lately? They have "Shoot the Freak" out there for crying out loud!
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30th January 2007, 12:37 AM	#14
mollyblack Scholar Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oakland/Emeryville Posts: 113	I don't know. I love that Criss Angel has brought magic and such into the world. It was a pretty easy trick to figure out and listening to him talk about some of his tricks on Penn's radio show was fascinating. I love mentalism and my husband loves slight of hands. The one we're trying to figure out is when he got stabbed by the spikes of the fence. I know it's special effects, but I like the fact that it's still mind boggling for me. So few of his tricks are at this point (at least his slight of hands ones).

30th January 2007, 09:43 AM	#15
Garrette Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,964	Originally Posted by mollyblack I don't know. I love that Criss Angel has brought magic and such into the world. It was a pretty easy trick to figure out and listening to him talk about some of his tricks on Penn's radio show was fascinating. I love mentalism and my husband loves ~~slight~~ sleight of hands. The one we're trying to figure out is when he got stabbed by the spikes of the fence. I know it's special effects, but I like the fact that it's still mind boggling for me. So few of his tricks are at this point (at least his ~~slight~~ sleight of hands ones). /pet peeve And a cheery welcome to the forum!
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1st February 2007, 03:33 PM	#16
Gulliamo Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 488	Originally Posted by Garrette /pet peeve And a cheery welcome to the forum! In that case it should be "sleights of hand". Welcome, don't worry, we're not usually grammar police.
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1st February 2007, 06:47 PM	#17
Grimoire Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 382	Expect to see this guy in a Criss Angel act any day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8off-1xz6eQ
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2nd February 2007, 06:21 AM	#18
Garrette Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,964	Originally Posted by Gulliamo In that case it should be "sleights of hand". No, no. Grammar should be practiced to the degree of rigidity that suits me. No more and no less. My correction was mere politeness. Yours was extreme pedantry approaching cruelty and uselessness. If everyone followed the unwritten "Garrette's Rules of Grammar" the world would be a better place. Or I would be a happier man. Same thing.
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3rd February 2007, 04:06 PM	#19
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,219	Originally Posted by Garrette No, no. Grammar should be practiced to the degree of rigidity that suits me. No more and no less. My correction was mere politeness. Yours was extreme pedantry approaching cruelty and uselessness. If everyone followed the unwritten "Garrette's Rules of Grammar" the world would be a better place. Or I would be a happier man. Same thing. Can you say blindfold..or pedant!
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9th February 2007, 10:46 AM	#20
mollyblack Scholar Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oakland/Emeryville Posts: 113	Grammar Police Originally Posted by Garrette /pet peeve And a cheery welcome to the forum! I actually knew that, unfortunately I've been ill and not keeping up with my spelling. Or even my proper punctuation. Or even my getting photos from the TAM up in a timely fashion. Trust me, when you're this ill and even sitting up at your laptop to type is making you nauseous, you're least worried about slight vs sleight vs sleights, even if normally it would annoy you (or in this case, me) to the utmost degree. Back to drinking water and hating anything that has to do with not laying very still.

9th February 2007, 11:52 AM	#21
Garrette Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,964	No excuses, Molly. It's perfection or nothing. I will not let you slyde on thiss. Wee prid areselves on our profesyunulisam hear.
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