david Icke interview on BBC radio

SusanB-M1 · 18th December 2006, 02:08 PM

There was a link (on another MB) to an interview with David Icke on Radio Five Live. This was at 11:0 p.m. on 17th. I have just listened to it and the phone-in afterwards and it is really quite funny! The link to the page is:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/programmes/nolan.shtml
Click on the 'listen again to 17th December' and then forward an hour, the interview starts after a news bulletin.

Sorry - I've forgotten how to turn link blue. Also I see I've typed david without a capital Din the title.)

cerberus · 18th December 2006, 03:16 PM

He's also just started an interview on talksport (w w w. talksport .net). There is also a documentary about him on Boxing day on Channel 5 (UK tv station).

FarSideOfTheMoon · 18th December 2006, 11:51 PM

I heard about 5 minutes of the Talk Sport interview last night on the James Whale show. Just the usual nonsense.

James Whale is just such an idiot, he has had Uri Gellar on as well in the past, and I really can't believe Whale believes any of it himself, but he is happy to have these morons on unchallenged for hours on end.

cerberus · 19th December 2006, 01:44 AM

The problem is he's on a commercial radio station. He has admitted that the phone lines go crazy when he has the conspiracy nuts and physics on which will keep his bosses happy. When he puts his mind to it he can really rip people to bits in an interview, but I admit that with this type of guest it is a very softly softly approach, and I usually turn over to something else after a short time.

FarSideOfTheMoon · 19th December 2006, 05:17 AM

I heard him when he had a psychic on a few months ago when I was sitting in the car waiting for someone.

I only listened to a few minutes so I don't know if this was typical of the show that night, but I suspect it was....

Someone phoned in and the psychic must have missed about 5 times with name and initials connections to the caller. It was really going nowhere and was quite painful (for the psychic at least - I was loving it!) and the caller just got cut off mid sentence. Cue some remarks about technical problems etc and their true colours were revealed.

It is commercial radio, but it is still shameful.

The brief moment of I heard last night, they were talking about 9/11 and how that proved something or other that IcKe had previously said. But it was being said in such an incoherent and logically inconsistent way that I couldn't really work out what they were talking about.

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RSLancastr · 19th December 2006, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by FarSideOfTheMoon

But it was being said in such an incoherent and logically inconsistent way that I couldn't really work out what they were talking about.

Sounds like Icke!

FarSideOfTheMoon · 19th December 2006, 11:47 PM

To be honest, I think he forgot what his point was himself several years ago

Azrael 5 · 26th December 2006, 05:26 PM

Watched the TV documentary yesterday,and I reached the conclusion that a) He has a massive chip on his shoulder and b) He talks utter nonsense and is as guilty iof brainwashing as the governments he preaches about.
I was waiting to see evidence of the Queen etc being reptiles! Sadly he didn't produce any.Or evidence of anything come to think of it.

FarSideOfTheMoon · 26th December 2006, 11:46 PM

That programme was just what you expect from channel 5. It didn't achieve anything other than let him waffle incoherently. Compare it to the recent excellent Donal McIntyre gangster series on the same channel over the last few weeks which challenged the (unpleasant) documentary subjects. This was neither a fly-on-the-wall-warts-and-all nor a subjective investigation.

The title 'Was David Icke Right?' was answered with no critical thinking at all. There were so many holes:

1) Cherry-picking his 'successful' predictions, which seemed almost sub-Nostradamus in clarity.

2) Showing his rather insensitive comments on 9/11, and implying Bin Laden is a made-up baddie.

3) Absolutely zero evidence about the reptilian stuff - how and why does he think that the Illuminati take on a reptilian form?

He is just an idiot who thinks the world revolves around him. You don't need a global consipracy to explain why crap happens to us all.

On the other hand though, he seems to be doing rather well for himself so I am not convinced he is that stupid. Just a thought that the programme planted in my mind....

mummymonkey · 27th December 2006, 02:00 AM

At least we now know who ate all the pies.

Azrael 5 · 27th December 2006, 04:25 AM

I read on another forum that Icke had a mental breakdown and could be ill,dunno the truth of this.

If those predictions were his best then his books must be very lightweight affairs.

baron · 27th December 2006, 05:04 AM

Very bizarre bloke. On the one hand he appears sane, on the other he accuses people of being secret lizards. Unlike vile scammers such as Sylvia Browne I think he believes what he says, so maybe that's a plus-point.

One thing I did agree with (totally unrelated to reptiles or Tony Blair) was his response to the police who started interrogating him when they were filming. Go into London and your every move is monitored by half a dozen CCTV cameras, yet when you try to take a snap or a home movie you're leaped on by cops or, worse, private security.

FarSideOfTheMoon · 27th December 2006, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by baron

One thing I did agree with (totally unrelated to reptiles or Tony Blair) was his response to the police who started interrogating him when they were filming. Go into London and your every move is monitored by half a dozen CCTV cameras, yet when you try to take a snap or a home movie you're leaped on by cops or, worse, private security.

Thats the problem with conspiracy nuts. Not everything in life is perfect and mis-information is widespread. But rather than accept and try to rationalise about why something happens or is the way it is, they have to invent something to explain it away.

He is perfectly right to be upset about the amount of surveillance we live under but he is wrong to assume it is because the world revolves around him.

But the guy who he was talking to at the time who was camped at the Houses of Parliament - I would be surprised if he wasn't suffering from mental illness.

billydkid · 27th December 2006, 09:27 AM

I have never really been clear on this guy - does he really believe that the evil people are lizards in disquise or is it some sort of code language?

sophia8 · 27th December 2006, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by billydkid

I have never really been clear on this guy - does he really believe that the evil people are lizards in disquise or is it some sort of code language?

He really does believe that the world is secretly run by alien lizards disguised as people. Seriously. V has a lot to answer for.

Of course, his followers don't nessessarily buy into that theory......

St.Michael · 27th December 2006, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by FarSideOfTheMoon

2) Showing his rather insensitive comments on 9/11, and implying Bin Laden is a made-up baddie.

He did make a huge error there that no one corrected him on. He claims there's no footage of the first plane hitting the WTC. President Bush couldn't have seen it, so when he (Bush) said he saw the first plane hit, it was proof of an inside job!

Yes there is footage of the first plane David!

Azrael 5 · 27th December 2006, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by St.Michael

He did make a huge error there that no one corrected him on. He claims there's no footage of the first plane hitting the WTC. President Bush couldn't have seen it, so when he (Bush) said he saw the first plane hit, it was proof of an inside job!

Yes there is footage of the first plane David!

I spotted that too.Funnily two thousand people in Brixton Academy didn't.A favouirite quote from his wife during his lecture show "They're[the audience]not laughing because they're listening" After some lame joke about Bush and Blair,I think.

A thread on Digital spy here ,contributed by the barmy FM faeden http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1&page=1&pp=25

The Pig · 27th December 2006, 04:12 PM

I'm pretty sure he believes. In fact, he seems to believe everything. He hasn't seen the lizards, other people told him they have, and that was good enough.

If he was in it for the money, I don't think he'd libel dozens of rich and powerful people in his books; I can't believe they're still on the shelves. He wasn't pulling any punches in "The Biggest Secret", but nobody seems to have taken exception yet.

He's asking for donations on his site to help him with some legal troubles.

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/1772/1772/

Architect · 28th December 2006, 09:17 AM

I watched the documentary, being stuck in hospital with little else to do, and must admit was struck by his earnest, very measured delivery - given that the content was complete bolloks. A classic example was his "standing stones" revelation, part of his excuse for the Wogan Show debacle.

I wonder how much these eejits at Brixton paid to hear him?

SusanB-M1 · 28th December 2006, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

I spotted that too.Funnily two thousand people in Brixton Academy didn't.A favouirite quote from his wife during his lecture show "They're[the audience]not laughing because they're listening" After some lame joke about Bush and Blair,I think.

A thread on Digital spy here ,contributed by the barmy FM faeden http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1&page=1&pp=25

I have just had a look at the first page of that thread (It still amazes me how many MBs there are all over the place) and notice that one person suggested that it is not fair to criticise David Icke unless you have read his books!! Well, it seems to me that's why he goes on talking and writing if people are gullible enough to buy and pay. The phrase 'laughing all the way to the bank' does spring to mind.

I had intended to go and beard him in his den in Ryde (Isle of Wight) - politely, I hasten to add - but haven't got around to it. This was in relation to the article on his web site referring to white powder gold. I think the answers on the Science board here were much more realistic and, of course, scientific!

Anyway, it was very interesting reading all the above posts on the interview.

18th December 2006, 02:08 PM	#1
SusanB-M1 Incurable Optimist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Almost in the New Forest, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,867	david Icke interview on BBC radio There was a link (on another MB) to an interview with David Icke on Radio Five Live. This was at 11:0 p.m. on 17th. I have just listened to it and the phone-in afterwards and it is really quite funny! The link to the page is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/programmes/nolan.shtml Click on the 'listen again to 17th December' and then forward an hour, the interview starts after a news bulletin. Sorry - I've forgotten how to turn link blue. Also I see I've typed david without a capital Din the title.)
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19th December 2006, 11:29 PM	#6
RSLancastr www.StopSylvia.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 15,545	Originally Posted by FarSideOfTheMoon But it was being said in such an incoherent and logically inconsistent way that I couldn't really work out what they were talking about. Sounds like Icke!
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26th December 2006, 05:26 PM	#8
Azrael 5 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 5,033	Watched the TV documentary yesterday,and I reached the conclusion that a) He has a massive chip on his shoulder and b) He talks utter nonsense and is as guilty iof brainwashing as the governments he preaches about. I was waiting to see evidence of the Queen etc being reptiles! Sadly he didn't produce any.Or evidence of anything come to think of it.
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27th December 2006, 02:00 AM	#10
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27th December 2006, 04:25 AM	#11
Azrael 5 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 5,033	I read on another forum that Icke had a mental breakdown and could be ill,dunno the truth of this. If those predictions were his best then his books must be very lightweight affairs.
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18th December 2006, 03:16 PM	#2
cerberus New Blood Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Annes, UK Posts: 18	He's also just started an interview on talksport (w w w. talksport .net). There is also a documentary about him on Boxing day on Channel 5 (UK tv station).

18th December 2006, 11:51 PM	#3
FarSideOfTheMoon Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Larbert Posts: 291	I heard about 5 minutes of the Talk Sport interview last night on the James Whale show. Just the usual nonsense. James Whale is just such an idiot, he has had Uri Gellar on as well in the past, and I really can't believe Whale believes any of it himself, but he is happy to have these morons on unchallenged for hours on end.

19th December 2006, 01:44 AM	#4
cerberus New Blood Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Annes, UK Posts: 18	The problem is he's on a commercial radio station. He has admitted that the phone lines go crazy when he has the conspiracy nuts and physics on which will keep his bosses happy. When he puts his mind to it he can really rip people to bits in an interview, but I admit that with this type of guest it is a very softly softly approach, and I usually turn over to something else after a short time.

19th December 2006, 05:17 AM	#5
FarSideOfTheMoon Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Larbert Posts: 291	I heard him when he had a psychic on a few months ago when I was sitting in the car waiting for someone. I only listened to a few minutes so I don't know if this was typical of the show that night, but I suspect it was.... Someone phoned in and the psychic must have missed about 5 times with name and initials connections to the caller. It was really going nowhere and was quite painful (for the psychic at least - I was loving it!) and the caller just got cut off mid sentence. Cue some remarks about technical problems etc and their true colours were revealed. It is commercial radio, but it is still shameful. The brief moment of I heard last night, they were talking about 9/11 and how that proved something or other that IcKe had previously said. But it was being said in such an incoherent and logically inconsistent way that I couldn't really work out what they were talking about. ETA:Spelling

19th December 2006, 11:47 PM	#7
FarSideOfTheMoon Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Larbert Posts: 291	To be honest, I think he forgot what his point was himself several years ago

26th December 2006, 11:46 PM	#9
FarSideOfTheMoon Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Larbert Posts: 291	That programme was just what you expect from channel 5. It didn't achieve anything other than let him waffle incoherently. Compare it to the recent excellent Donal McIntyre gangster series on the same channel over the last few weeks which challenged the (unpleasant) documentary subjects. This was neither a fly-on-the-wall-warts-and-all nor a subjective investigation. The title 'Was David Icke Right?' was answered with no critical thinking at all. There were so many holes: 1) Cherry-picking his 'successful' predictions, which seemed almost sub-Nostradamus in clarity. 2) Showing his rather insensitive comments on 9/11, and implying Bin Laden is a made-up baddie. 3) Absolutely zero evidence about the reptilian stuff - how and why does he think that the Illuminati take on a reptilian form? He is just an idiot who thinks the world revolves around him. You don't need a global consipracy to explain why crap happens to us all. On the other hand though, he seems to be doing rather well for himself so I am not convinced he is that stupid. Just a thought that the programme planted in my mind....

27th December 2006, 05:04 AM	#12
baron Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hill Posts: 1,910	Very bizarre bloke. On the one hand he appears sane, on the other he accuses people of being secret lizards. Unlike vile scammers such as Sylvia Browne I think he believes what he says, so maybe that's a plus-point. One thing I did agree with (totally unrelated to reptiles or Tony Blair) was his response to the police who started interrogating him when they were filming. Go into London and your every move is monitored by half a dozen CCTV cameras, yet when you try to take a snap or a home movie you're leaped on by cops or, worse, private security.

27th December 2006, 05:40 AM	#13
FarSideOfTheMoon Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Larbert Posts: 291	Originally Posted by baron One thing I did agree with (totally unrelated to reptiles or Tony Blair) was his response to the police who started interrogating him when they were filming. Go into London and your every move is monitored by half a dozen CCTV cameras, yet when you try to take a snap or a home movie you're leaped on by cops or, worse, private security. Thats the problem with conspiracy nuts. Not everything in life is perfect and mis-information is widespread. But rather than accept and try to rationalise about why something happens or is the way it is, they have to invent something to explain it away. He is perfectly right to be upset about the amount of surveillance we live under but he is wrong to assume it is because the world revolves around him. But the guy who he was talking to at the time who was camped at the Houses of Parliament - I would be surprised if he wasn't suffering from mental illness.

27th December 2006, 09:27 AM	#14
billydkid Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Blanchester, OH Posts: 4,930	I have never really been clear on this guy - does he really believe that the evil people are lizards in disquise or is it some sort of code language?

27th December 2006, 10:08 AM	#15
sophia8 Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In the dark, dark forest.... Posts: 2,263	Originally Posted by billydkid I have never really been clear on this guy - does he really believe that the evil people are lizards in disquise or is it some sort of code language? He really does believe that the world is secretly run by alien lizards disguised as people. Seriously. V has a lot to answer for. Of course, his followers don't nessessarily buy into that theory......
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27th December 2006, 10:57 AM	#16
St.Michael Scholar Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 121	Originally Posted by FarSideOfTheMoon 2) Showing his rather insensitive comments on 9/11, and implying Bin Laden is a made-up baddie. He did make a huge error there that no one corrected him on. He claims there's no footage of the first plane hitting the WTC. President Bush couldn't have seen it, so when he (Bush) said he saw the first plane hit, it was proof of an inside job! Yes there is footage of the first plane David!
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27th December 2006, 03:54 PM	#17
Azrael 5 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 5,033	Originally Posted by St.Michael He did make a huge error there that no one corrected him on. He claims there's no footage of the first plane hitting the WTC. President Bush couldn't have seen it, so when he (Bush) said he saw the first plane hit, it was proof of an inside job! Yes there is footage of the first plane David! I spotted that too.Funnily two thousand people in Brixton Academy didn't.A favouirite quote from his wife during his lecture show "They're[the audience]not laughing because they're listening" After some lame joke about Bush and Blair,I think. A thread on Digital spy here ,contributed by the barmy FM faeden http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1&page=1&pp=25
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27th December 2006, 04:12 PM	#18
The Pig Thinker Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 171	I'm pretty sure he believes. In fact, he seems to believe everything. He hasn't seen the lizards, other people told him they have, and that was good enough. If he was in it for the money, I don't think he'd libel dozens of rich and powerful people in his books; I can't believe they're still on the shelves. He wasn't pulling any punches in "The Biggest Secret", but nobody seems to have taken exception yet. He's asking for donations on his site to help him with some legal troubles. http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/1772/1772/
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28th December 2006, 09:17 AM	#19
Architect Chief Punkah Wallah Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 8,478	I watched the documentary, being stuck in hospital with little else to do, and must admit was struck by his earnest, very measured delivery - given that the content was complete bolloks. A classic example was his "standing stones" revelation, part of his excuse for the Wogan Show debacle. I wonder how much these eejits at Brixton paid to hear him?
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28th December 2006, 11:08 AM	#20
SusanB-M1 Incurable Optimist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Almost in the New Forest, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,867	Originally Posted by Azrael 5 I spotted that too.Funnily two thousand people in Brixton Academy didn't.A favouirite quote from his wife during his lecture show "They're[the audience]not laughing because they're listening" After some lame joke about Bush and Blair,I think. A thread on Digital spy here ,contributed by the barmy FM faeden http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1&page=1&pp=25 I have just had a look at the first page of that thread (It still amazes me how many MBs there are all over the place) and notice that one person suggested that it is not fair to criticise David Icke unless you have read his books!! Well, it seems to me that's why he goes on talking and writing if people are gullible enough to buy and pay. The phrase 'laughing all the way to the bank' does spring to mind. I had intended to go and beard him in his den in Ryde (Isle of Wight) - politely, I hasten to add - but haven't got around to it. This was in relation to the article on his web site referring to white powder gold. I think the answers on the Science board here were much more realistic and, of course, scientific! Anyway, it was very interesting reading all the above posts on the interview.