What is your 9/11 Expertise? - Page 2

The Almond · 20th December 2006, 06:51 AM

Bachelor of Science, Civil Engineering, Clemson University
Masters of Science, Reinforced Concrete Design and Construction Materials, Clemson University
Never had to take a class with Judy Wood, Priceless

Fairly recent graduate with a few years work experience in a large engineering firm doing a variety of engineery type things. I'm not allowed to say what company under orders from my supervisors, but suffice it to say, they get an enormous kick out Wood, Fetzer, Jones and all of our lovable little trolls on JREF.

28th Kingdom · 20th December 2006, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by chipmunk stew

I am an expert ninja with a specialty in ninjatude.

I would disagree...but, I've seen that death weapon in your hand...I ain't no fool.

rwguinn · 20th December 2006, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Lurker

BS Mechanical Engineering
MS Mechanical Engineering

Study of stress/strain, Finite Element Analysis modeling, viscoelasticity

Architect, I am a fencer too!

Lurker

BS Mechanical Engineering
Registered Professional Engineer (by examiation--NSPE national Exam)
30 years structural analysis
Principal interests: Structural Dynamics and loads

And I built a fence once.

JamesB · 20th December 2006, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by JonnyFive

I'm one of the peripheral people, as my areas of experience are ones the CTists always allude to, but never seem to touch directly.

-I have a BS in Police Science (in the US), including study of terrorist ideology and methodology.

-I work in the insurance industry as an underwriter, so I have an understanding of how the business works and what's involved in the risk analysis of insurance. I see a lot of CTist making claims about the attacks being some insurance fraud thing that are simply ridiculous if you know anything about insurance at all.

Other than those areas, I'm no specialist. I'm good at pestering people to provide evidence though, I can do that.

Explain that to David Hawkins...

As for my background I have a BA in Russian and East European studies, and am currently an MBA candidate with a concentration in finance. I have been working mostly in software though, except when I am working for the National Guard protecting oil pipelines in Afghanistan.

apathoid · 20th December 2006, 07:01 AM

I think its telling that our forum members have more expertise than the entire the "Scholars" for Trooofiness.....

JREF rules!

ETA: They stil have us beat on English, Arts, and Folklore majors though....

solidslade · 20th December 2006, 07:11 AM

expertise?

I've personally been exposed to what Thermite/mate works like on Planet Earth, during my stay in the Marine Corps at the least. I was an artilleryman, and worked many different types of explosives.

These days, I spend my time getting a paycheck from the NWO to finance my bachelors degree in Computer Science and COINTELPRO Dissemination ^_^;

JonnyFive · 20th December 2006, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by JamesB

Explain that to David Hawkins...

Wow... that guy's web site is... different.

So, he buys every crazy theory about 9/11 out there, and somehow believes that insurance fraud was a component of it?

Does he understand insurance? He claims to be a "forensic economist" but in his bio on his web page, it doesn't list any economics, accounting, insurance, or financial industry experience at all. He claims to be a mechanical engineer.

Is there some rule in CT land that prevents you from talking about the stuff you actually know anything about?

Arkan_Wolfshade · 20th December 2006, 07:11 AM

Haven't bothered finishing my BS in CS (about 12 credits shy). Have worked almost 10 yrs in the IT world as a sysadmin/developer, with the last two being an Oracle DBA and developer for a game company that designs 'net enabled coin-op games.

I've implemented, maintained, and customized a BaaN ERP installation. I've developed custom apps for internal customers; working closely with all departments and all levels of management.

I've been immersed in a logic based world for years now.

But, most importantly, my Google-fu is strong.

solidslade · 20th December 2006, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade

Haven't bothered finishing my BS in CS (about 12 credits shy). Have worked almost 10 yrs in the IT world as a sysadmin/developer, with the last two being an Oracle DBA and developer for a game company that designs 'net enabled coin-op games.

I've implemented, maintained, and customized a BaaN ERP installation. I've developed custom apps for internal customers; working closely with all departments and all levels of management.

I've been immersed in a logic based world for years now.

But, most importantly, my Google-fu is strong.

Teach me master, Teach Me! m-(_ _)-m

TheGrunion · 20th December 2006, 07:23 AM

BS Civil Engineering, Bucknell University
Registered Professional Engineer

My professional expertise primarily is in the design, construction, operation and maintenance of highways and roadways. I have some site security expertise as well.

I spent most of my career working for a consultant engineering firm (and a couple of years as a VDOT employee). I have managed projects for VDOT, DoD, FEMA, etc.

I worked at the Pentagon from October 2001 until mid 2005, and was responsible for pretty much all of the exterior construction that took place there from 2002-2004.

JamesB · 20th December 2006, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by JonnyFive

Wow... that guy's web site is... different.

So, he buys every crazy theory about 9/11 out there, and somehow believes that insurance fraud was a component of it?

Does he understand insurance? He claims to be a "forensic economist" but in his bio on his web page, it doesn't list any economics, accounting, insurance, or financial industry experience at all. He claims to be a mechanical engineer.

Is there some rule in CT land that prevents you from talking about the stuff you actually know anything about?

He is beyond bizarre. They guy got kicked out of the scholars for accusing Fetzer of being in on it. The one guy who can actually make Fetzer look sane by comparison. He doesn't appear to have any qualifications. He gave an interview in which he defined "forensic economist" as opposed to the usual "forensic accountant", which basically seemed to be that he didn't have to use any actual transactions or numbers of any type. From what I can tell, his understanding of finance, accounting, and business in general is entirely non-existent. None of his theories even make superficial sense. At least Leo Wanta is somewhat creative.

Hamradioguy · 20th December 2006, 07:29 AM

I am a retired Health Physicist (radiological accident response and assesment) with post-graduate coursework through the University of Lowell (MA). But my "field of speciality" is firefighting:
42 years of firefighting experience, and have served as Chief of two departments and Training Officer for three departments. Currently an Assistant Chief on my local department. I've taken far too many fire courses to list here, but they include all the basic stuff plus Hazardous Materials Operations at the National Fire Academy and Radiological Emergency Response Operations at the Nuclear test Site in Nevada.

60hzxtl · 20th December 2006, 07:49 AM

I'm a film maker. I make documentary films for a living and have the awards to prove it. I've been employed by Nova, Frontine, National Geographic, Discovery, BBC, ARD, the 3 major US networks.

I was not at the WTC when it was hit, but spent many, many days there afterwards, beginning the Sunday after. I spent 9/12 with Judith Miller of the NY Times, talking about the suspects, and the intel that id'd them.
I stood on it when it was a smoking pile, and stood in the hole that was there as they took it away.
I was there when the last piece of steel was cut out. I heard the first of the CT'er nuts while the pile was still smoking. Interviewed more family members than I can remember, including Leroy Homer's wife, (co-pilot Flt93) and a woman who only had her husband's jaw bone to bury.

I worked with the camera that Evan Fairbanks used to shoot the second plane hitting WTC2. I know when the microphone on that camera was ripped off (mistaken for the handle) and why there is no sound on that footage.

I know the cameraman who shot the Reuters footage, (that distant shot of the 2nd plane hitting) and how close he was to the 1st collapse. I heard the sound of that impact from 7 miles away.

I had a still camera on WTC 2 as it collapsed, (from 7 miles away) and could not believe what I was seeing - I worked in WTC # 1 in the 1970's, on the 74th floor, north face. I could not have told you where the emergency exits were.

Never been in the military, but have a good understanding as to how long a fighter plane can stay aloft without refueling. I learned that having spent more than 6 months at sea on seven different aircraft carriers.

I know how access to the street in front of WTC 7 was restricted on 9/11 because they were afraid of a collapse, and how the Millenium Hotel (where cter Jimmy Walker stays!) was suspected of being the next collapse in spite of no damage, no fire, and no planes.

I know about freefall - I've spent 48 minutes (total) in freefall.

In other CT fronts, I've held the camera that took the picture of Ruby shooting Oswald, and Zapruders camera, stood in the window of the Texas school book depository.

NBC lists me as case #1150 as exposed to Anthrax.

I take my work as a documentary film maker seriously, and resent somebody with FinalCutPro, stringing stolen news footage together with bad music, calling himself the same. Five people I knew died in that attack by a bunch of pissed off muslims. It wasn't an inside job. It wasn't controlled demolition, and it wasn't the other fantasies spun by Dylan, Jason, and the nutters who tell you the fires were not that hot, and were almost out.

Foolmewunz · 20th December 2006, 07:50 AM

An expert in nothing extremely useful - Logistics.
I'm the "argument from emotion" guy. I was an eye witness from 10 Exchange Place in Jersey City. Didn't see No. 1 hit, but turned around in time to see the flames shooting out the south side, and watched the whole morning, live from the picture windows in our office, and later from the waterside in Jersey City (after they made us evacuate or offices).

I lost a couple of good "acquaintances" - I do not want to hype our relationship by saying friends, but people I knew and worked with. I also worked in WTC 1 for ten years and plied the area since the 60's, and having been away for almost five years, still have the original site imprinted in my mind - pre destruction.

All of which gives me roughly zero credibility as an expert/expert witness, but is very useful for spotting immediate fallacies when some jackalope talks about the second plane having no windows (it was a damned passenger plane, get it through your heads, drones!) or when Chris Brown posts a picture of the external Vesey St. stairway and says it's part of his fabled core, or someone spouts crap about Zim Lines moving out (which they hadn't completed) because of advance knowledge of the attacks.

Nice to see all the credentialed posters. No wonder you guys rain bricks down on the Troofers before I wake up in Asia every morning!

Hellbound · 20th December 2006, 07:50 AM

I have over 14 years experience as a member of the U.S. military, and hold a Secret level security clearance. Both of these give me some insight into how classified information is handled and protected by the military/government, as well as the difficulties that one would have keeping an operation like a 9/11 conspiracy secret.

I've been military trained as a combat engineer, giving me some insight into the use and capabilities of explosives.

I'm trained as a medic in the military as well, giving me some insight into the limited areas that involve direct response and medical issues. Being that my training was military, some special emphasis was placed on trauma and possible nuclear, bilogical , and chemical weapon attacks and injuries. I was also trained as part of an NBC decon team.

I have an AAS in Computer Systems Technology, a BS in Information Technology, a semester's worth of Electronics Engineering Technology, and a year's worth of Physics and Computer Science (about 250 credit hours all together).

On a personal note, I'm well-read in areas of physics and evolution, and take care to learn relevent math and science before opening my mouth to declare something impossible or likely

Finally, I have more than 2 functioning brain cells, which seems to make me immeasurably more qualified than the majority of CTers

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Kiwiwriter · 20th December 2006, 08:12 AM

Member of the City of Newark's Homeland Security and Emergency Operations Management and Planning Committees.

So that makes me a shill for the New World Order!

Architect · 20th December 2006, 08:16 AM

I notice that Wiz and 28th haven't posted.....hmmmmm....

Brainster · 20th December 2006, 08:16 AM

I have worked for 28 years in the commercial real estate field, with specialization in finance and spreadsheet analysis of properties. I'm probably best suited to analyze the CT claims that Silverstein made a ton of money on 9-11 (which of course is ridiculous).

JonnyFive · 20th December 2006, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Architect

I notice that Wiz and 28th haven't posted.....hmmmmm....

Yeah, about that.

Originally Posted by Brainster

I have worked for 28 years in the commercial real estate field, with specialization in finance and spreadsheet analysis of properties. I'm probably best suited to analyze the CT claims that Silverstein made a ton of money on 9-11 (which of course is ridiculous).

Want to be anti-CT buddies?

Bell · 20th December 2006, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Architect

I notice that Wiz and 28th haven't posted.....hmmmmm....

They have BS in every field of CT.

Architect · 20th December 2006, 08:26 AM

At least ChristopherA would have had a try at answering it!

JimBenArm · 20th December 2006, 08:30 AM

OK, I'll be serious for just this once.

I was a nuclear-trained electrician in the Navy, on several submarines. 14 years active duty. Also was an instructor at Interior Communications Class "A" school. Worked as an instrument tech at a building insulation factory for 12 years, now do control system programming for water & wastewater plants for an engineering company.

In other words, just another old coot.

JonnyFive · 20th December 2006, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Architect

At least ChristopherA would have had a try at answering it!

Yes, he apparently has extensive experience as an uncertified surveyor, unceritifed draftsman, (probably uncertified) welder, high school dropout, and paranoid conspiracy theorist.

This, of course, makes him qualified to speak on every issue relating to 9/11, ever.

Architect · 20th December 2006, 08:32 AM

Ah, you just don't get delusion that like that more. When I was a lad.......

VespaGuy · 20th December 2006, 08:45 AM

5+ years experience as a structural designer for engineered building components. I worked primarily with wood trusses (floor and roof), but I also designed steel trusses, sized steel columns and beams, sized and specified engineered lumber products, hangers, nails, screws and just about any other peice of material you can think of in the building industry. I have done full engineering design on structures that range from small houses to multi-level elderly retirement complexes.
I worked under a P.E. and all of my calcs were verified and sealed.

I am also a photographer - nothing professional, but I know much more than the fundamentals and more than enough to understand many of the anomolies that woos love to point to. Although it doesn't come into play much with 9/11 debunkung, it's nice to know the ins and outs of photography when it comes to many other woo claims ("no stars in moon photographs", orbs).

Currently, I am a programmer and database admin, but I continue to work within the construction industry.

JimBenArm · 20th December 2006, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Architect

I notice that Wiz and 28th haven't posted.....hmmmmm....

Actually, 28th did post. Claimed he wasn't a fool. Still waiting for proof on that.

Dave_46 · 20th December 2006, 08:48 AM

No university qualifiations. A Higher National Certificate in mechanical engineering (day release), followed by nineteen years of fire-resistance testing (I finished up running the lab). A further fifteen years working for the Building Research Establishment doing various fire testing projects, including test development. So, I know a little bit about how fires burn.

Now semi retired.

Dave

Horatius · 20th December 2006, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

And I built a fence once.

That one bit alone makes you more qualified than the Ctists I've seen. I swear not a one of them has ever even swung a hammer in earnest.

JonnyFive · 20th December 2006, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by JimBenArm

Actually, 28th did post. Claimed he wasn't a fool. Still waiting for proof on that.

I would argue that we've seen plenty of proof to the contrary.

Originally Posted by 28th Kingdom

There is no such thing as an expert. Only specialists.

No experts, friend, only specialists. Do words not mean the same things to this guy as to the rest of humanity?

PerryLogan · 20th December 2006, 09:06 AM

I have a doctorate in English, which disqualifies me for everything.

Kiwiwriter · 20th December 2006, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by JimBenArm

OK, I'll be serious for just this once.

I was a nuclear-trained electrician in the Navy, on several submarines. 14 years active duty. Also was an instructor at Interior Communications Class "A" school. Worked as an instrument tech at a building insulation factory for 12 years, now do control system programming for water & wastewater plants for an engineering company.

In other words, just another old coot.

I worked with ICs when I was in the Navy. They maintained the TV cameras and radio equipment in our AFRTS station in Japan. Very smart, sharp guys. If they were typical of the rate and the training you conducted, you should be very proud. I have a lot of respect for them.

JonnyFive · 20th December 2006, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by PerryLogan

I have a doctorate in English, which disqualifies me for everything.

Not in the conspiracy world. In their world, you could be a god!

You have a doctorate! They could claim that another PhD (don't expect them to mention it's a PhD in a subject unrelated to their insane theories) supports their cause.

You could have it all: ~~fame~~, ~~fortune~~, ~~respect~~, adoration from a bunch of 13 year old Loose Change fanboys.

uk_dave · 20th December 2006, 09:35 AM

Dr Perry Logan....has an almost james bond villianish feel to it....

....can you hoot in three different languages and rotate your head through 120 degrees?

Coz big owl can....

Belz... · 20th December 2006, 09:42 AM

Nothing. I'm a computer programmer with an ability for reasoning higher than the common male Mandril.

Oh, and I don't trust common sense.

Other than that, zilch.

Hutch · 20th December 2006, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Architect

I notice that Wiz and 28th haven't posted.....hmmmmm....

All they would say is that we've made a bunch of claims but that we haven't proved it so they are free to discount our purerile boastings...

Seriously, I am astounded at the level of expertise available here. I knew we were good, but I had no idea we were this good...

I am humbled to be able to do modestly help where I can with this much brainpower available.

pvt1863 · 20th December 2006, 09:57 AM

BS Mechanical Engineering
MS Nuclear Engineering, specializing in thermal hydraulics (not completely done -- finishing my thesis while working)
Less than 4 months work experience in nuclear reactor thermal hydraulics.

My expertise is in heat transfer. I focused on it during my undergraduate schooling and was a TA for my undergraduate school's heat transfer course. My Master's thesis also focuses on heat transfer.

I am also well versed in statics, dynamics, and material science. I did undergraduate research in materials, finding the material properties of new alloys.

HyJinX · 20th December 2006, 10:02 AM

MBA with an emphasis in Marketing and Consumer Behavior.

The CTs have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on the snake oil. More has been spent on web-designs and other communications vehicles. There's a lot of money to made off of these Nit-wits...which is the true motivation behind David Ray Griffen, Steven Jones and the LC idiots.

aggle-rithm · 20th December 2006, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

BS Mechanical Engineering
Registered Professional Engineer (by examiation--NSPE national Exam)
30 years structural analysis
Principal interests: Structural Dynamics and loads

And I built a fence once.

I performed a controlled demolition of a shed in my back yard this past summer. One thing I have to say: Thank God for gravity! It would be hell if you had to break buildings into tiny pieces before they would fall.

JimBenArm · 20th December 2006, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

I performed a controlled demolition of a shed in my back yard this past summer. One thing I have to say: Thank God for gravity! It would be hell if you had to break buildings into tiny pieces before they would fall.

No, I know you used thermite. I have photos that show a shed that was covered in aluminum siding, therefore all sheds contain thermite, and it's there for CD at a later time.

It's twooo, it's twoo, it's weally twoo!

firecoins · 20th December 2006, 10:18 AM

my turn

I am a New Yorker. I am familiar with Manhattan prior to 9/11 and was in the WTC several times in 2001 prior to 9/11.

I am Jewish. I was not involved in the planning of 9/11 nor did I receive any phone calls from the Israeli government telling to avoid downtown Manhattan.

I have a BA in economics from NYU. It has no relevance to 9/11 other than I know 9/11 was not done for the insurance.

I was & will be again an Emergency Medical Technician. I participated in a Mass Causalty Drill simulating a terror attack in Nyack NY in 2001. The scene was chaotic in the simulation. It was a similar type of situation described by everyone from the FDNY to Norad to the White House on 9/11. I had my scanner on when WTC 7 went down and it seemed like a surprise to the NYPD officers on the radio.

It seems I can eliminate many ct theories with my experience.

20th December 2006, 06:51 AM	#41
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20th December 2006, 06:53 AM	#42
28th Kingdom Guest Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 949	Originally Posted by chipmunk stew I am an expert ninja with a specialty in ninjatude. I would disagree...but, I've seen that death weapon in your hand...I ain't no fool.
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20th December 2006, 06:55 AM	#43
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 8,436	Originally Posted by Lurker BS Mechanical Engineering MS Mechanical Engineering Study of stress/strain, Finite Element Analysis modeling, viscoelasticity Architect, I am a fencer too! Lurker BS Mechanical Engineering Registered Professional Engineer (by examiation--NSPE national Exam) 30 years structural analysis Principal interests: Structural Dynamics and loads And I built a fence once.
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20th December 2006, 06:59 AM	#44
JamesB Master Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,136	Originally Posted by JonnyFive I'm one of the peripheral people, as my areas of experience are ones the CTists always allude to, but never seem to touch directly. -I have a BS in Police Science (in the US), including study of terrorist ideology and methodology. -I work in the insurance industry as an underwriter, so I have an understanding of how the business works and what's involved in the risk analysis of insurance. I see a lot of CTist making claims about the attacks being some insurance fraud thing that are simply ridiculous if you know anything about insurance at all. Other than those areas, I'm no specialist. I'm good at pestering people to provide evidence though, I can do that. Explain that to David Hawkins... As for my background I have a BA in Russian and East European studies, and am currently an MBA candidate with a concentration in finance. I have been working mostly in software though, except when I am working for the National Guard protecting oil pipelines in Afghanistan.
JamesB Master Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,136	__________________ I said lots of things in NPH that I would not say today and that I did not repeat in NPHR, where I specifically corrected at least some of the errors I had made in that earlier book, written 5 years ago. -David Ray Griffin-

20th December 2006, 07:01 AM	#45
apathoid Government Loyalist Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Virgo Supercluster Posts: 2,699	I think its telling that our forum members have more expertise than the entire the "Scholars" for Trooofiness..... JREF rules! ETA: They stil have us beat on English, Arts, and Folklore majors though....
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20th December 2006, 07:11 AM	#46
solidslade Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nowhere, Anarcaea Posts: 167	expertise? I've personally been exposed to what Thermite/mate works like on Planet Earth, during my stay in the Marine Corps at the least. I was an artilleryman, and worked many different types of explosives. These days, I spend my time getting a paycheck from the NWO to finance my bachelors degree in Computer Science and COINTELPRO Dissemination ^_^;
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20th December 2006, 07:11 AM	#47
JonnyFive Insurance Underwriter of Doom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,473	Originally Posted by JamesB Explain that to David Hawkins... Wow... that guy's web site is... different. So, he buys every crazy theory about 9/11 out there, and somehow believes that insurance fraud was a component of it? Does he understand insurance? He claims to be a "forensic economist" but in his bio on his web page, it doesn't list any economics, accounting, insurance, or financial industry experience at all. He claims to be a mechanical engineer. Is there some rule in CT land that prevents you from talking about the stuff you actually know anything about?
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20th December 2006, 07:11 AM	#48
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	Haven't bothered finishing my BS in CS (about 12 credits shy). Have worked almost 10 yrs in the IT world as a sysadmin/developer, with the last two being an Oracle DBA and developer for a game company that designs 'net enabled coin-op games. I've implemented, maintained, and customized a BaaN ERP installation. I've developed custom apps for internal customers; working closely with all departments and all levels of management. I've been immersed in a logic based world for years now. But, most importantly, my Google-fu is strong.
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20th December 2006, 07:18 AM	#49
solidslade Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nowhere, Anarcaea Posts: 167	Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade Haven't bothered finishing my BS in CS (about 12 credits shy). Have worked almost 10 yrs in the IT world as a sysadmin/developer, with the last two being an Oracle DBA and developer for a game company that designs 'net enabled coin-op games. I've implemented, maintained, and customized a BaaN ERP installation. I've developed custom apps for internal customers; working closely with all departments and all levels of management. I've been immersed in a logic based world for years now. But, most importantly, my Google-fu is strong. Teach me master, Teach Me! m-(_ _)-m
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20th December 2006, 07:23 AM	#50
TheGrunion Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 271	BS Civil Engineering, Bucknell University Registered Professional Engineer My professional expertise primarily is in the design, construction, operation and maintenance of highways and roadways. I have some site security expertise as well. I spent most of my career working for a consultant engineering firm (and a couple of years as a VDOT employee). I have managed projects for VDOT, DoD, FEMA, etc. I worked at the Pentagon from October 2001 until mid 2005, and was responsible for pretty much all of the exterior construction that took place there from 2002-2004.

20th December 2006, 07:26 AM	#51
JamesB Master Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,136	Originally Posted by JonnyFive Wow... that guy's web site is... different. So, he buys every crazy theory about 9/11 out there, and somehow believes that insurance fraud was a component of it? Does he understand insurance? He claims to be a "forensic economist" but in his bio on his web page, it doesn't list any economics, accounting, insurance, or financial industry experience at all. He claims to be a mechanical engineer. Is there some rule in CT land that prevents you from talking about the stuff you actually know anything about? He is beyond bizarre. They guy got kicked out of the scholars for accusing Fetzer of being in on it. The one guy who can actually make Fetzer look sane by comparison. He doesn't appear to have any qualifications. He gave an interview in which he defined "forensic economist" as opposed to the usual "forensic accountant", which basically seemed to be that he didn't have to use any actual transactions or numbers of any type. From what I can tell, his understanding of finance, accounting, and business in general is entirely non-existent. None of his theories even make superficial sense. At least Leo Wanta is somewhat creative.
JamesB Master Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,136	__________________ I said lots of things in NPH that I would not say today and that I did not repeat in NPHR, where I specifically corrected at least some of the errors I had made in that earlier book, written 5 years ago. -David Ray Griffin-

20th December 2006, 07:29 AM	#52
Hamradioguy Pyrrhonist Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern Vermont Posts: 2,272	I am a retired Health Physicist (radiological accident response and assesment) with post-graduate coursework through the University of Lowell (MA). But my "field of speciality" is firefighting: 42 years of firefighting experience, and have served as Chief of two departments and Training Officer for three departments. Currently an Assistant Chief on my local department. I've taken far too many fire courses to list here, but they include all the basic stuff plus Hazardous Materials Operations at the National Fire Academy and Radiological Emergency Response Operations at the Nuclear test Site in Nevada.

20th December 2006, 07:49 AM	#53
60hzxtl Muse Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 698	I'm a film maker. I make documentary films for a living and have the awards to prove it. I've been employed by Nova, Frontine, National Geographic, Discovery, BBC, ARD, the 3 major US networks. I was not at the WTC when it was hit, but spent many, many days there afterwards, beginning the Sunday after. I spent 9/12 with Judith Miller of the NY Times, talking about the suspects, and the intel that id'd them. I stood on it when it was a smoking pile, and stood in the hole that was there as they took it away. I was there when the last piece of steel was cut out. I heard the first of the CT'er nuts while the pile was still smoking. Interviewed more family members than I can remember, including Leroy Homer's wife, (co-pilot Flt93) and a woman who only had her husband's jaw bone to bury. I worked with the camera that Evan Fairbanks used to shoot the second plane hitting WTC2. I know when the microphone on that camera was ripped off (mistaken for the handle) and why there is no sound on that footage. I know the cameraman who shot the Reuters footage, (that distant shot of the 2nd plane hitting) and how close he was to the 1st collapse. I heard the sound of that impact from 7 miles away. I had a still camera on WTC 2 as it collapsed, (from 7 miles away) and could not believe what I was seeing - I worked in WTC # 1 in the 1970's, on the 74th floor, north face. I could not have told you where the emergency exits were. Never been in the military, but have a good understanding as to how long a fighter plane can stay aloft without refueling. I learned that having spent more than 6 months at sea on seven different aircraft carriers. I know how access to the street in front of WTC 7 was restricted on 9/11 because they were afraid of a collapse, and how the Millenium Hotel (where cter Jimmy Walker stays!) was suspected of being the next collapse in spite of no damage, no fire, and no planes. I know about freefall - I've spent 48 minutes (total) in freefall. In other CT fronts, I've held the camera that took the picture of Ruby shooting Oswald, and Zapruders camera, stood in the window of the Texas school book depository. NBC lists me as case #1150 as exposed to Anthrax. I take my work as a documentary film maker seriously, and resent somebody with FinalCutPro, stringing stolen news footage together with bad music, calling himself the same. Five people I knew died in that attack by a bunch of pissed off muslims. It wasn't an inside job. It wasn't controlled demolition, and it wasn't the other fantasies spun by Dylan, Jason, and the nutters who tell you the fires were not that hot, and were almost out.
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20th December 2006, 07:50 AM	#54
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 20,513	An expert in nothing extremely useful - Logistics. I'm the "argument from emotion" guy. I was an eye witness from 10 Exchange Place in Jersey City. Didn't see No. 1 hit, but turned around in time to see the flames shooting out the south side, and watched the whole morning, live from the picture windows in our office, and later from the waterside in Jersey City (after they made us evacuate or offices). I lost a couple of good "acquaintances" - I do not want to hype our relationship by saying friends, but people I knew and worked with. I also worked in WTC 1 for ten years and plied the area since the 60's, and having been away for almost five years, still have the original site imprinted in my mind - pre destruction. All of which gives me roughly zero credibility as an expert/expert witness, but is very useful for spotting immediate fallacies when some jackalope talks about the second plane having no windows (it was a damned passenger plane, get it through your heads, drones!) or when Chris Brown posts a picture of the external Vesey St. stairway and says it's part of his fabled core, or someone spouts crap about Zim Lines moving out (which they hadn't completed) because of advance knowledge of the attacks. Nice to see all the credentialed posters. No wonder you guys rain bricks down on the Troofers before I wake up in Asia every morning!
	__________________ Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele Don't you wish someone had slapped baby Hitler really really hard? [i] Dr. Buzzo 02/13 [i]

20th December 2006, 07:50 AM	#55
Hellbound Abiogenic Spongiform Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a handbasket Posts: 8,922	I have over 14 years experience as a member of the U.S. military, and hold a Secret level security clearance. Both of these give me some insight into how classified information is handled and protected by the military/government, as well as the difficulties that one would have keeping an operation like a 9/11 conspiracy secret. I've been military trained as a combat engineer, giving me some insight into the use and capabilities of explosives. I'm trained as a medic in the military as well, giving me some insight into the limited areas that involve direct response and medical issues. Being that my training was military, some special emphasis was placed on trauma and possible nuclear, bilogical , and chemical weapon attacks and injuries. I was also trained as part of an NBC decon team. I have an AAS in Computer Systems Technology, a BS in Information Technology, a semester's worth of Electronics Engineering Technology, and a year's worth of Physics and Computer Science (about 250 credit hours all together). On a personal note, I'm well-read in areas of physics and evolution, and take care to learn relevent math and science before opening my mouth to declare something impossible or likely Finally, I have more than 2 functioning brain cells, which seems to make me immeasurably more qualified than the majority of CTers .

20th December 2006, 08:12 AM	#56
Kiwiwriter Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 1,110	My expertise, such as it is... Member of the City of Newark's Homeland Security and Emergency Operations Management and Planning Committees. So that makes me a shill for the New World Order!
	__________________ "When you hate, the only one that suffers is you because most of the people you hate don't know it and the rest don't care." -- Medgar Evers "My intensity is intense." -- Roger Clemens Check out my writing at http://www.usswashington.com/dl_index.htm and my blog at http://davidhlippman.wildbillguarnere.com

20th December 2006, 08:16 AM	#57
Architect Chief Punkah Wallah Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 8,478	I notice that Wiz and 28th haven't posted.....hmmmmm....
	__________________ When the men elected to make laws are but a small part of a foreign parliament, that is when all healthy national feeling dies. James Keir Hardie (1856 - 1915): Politician, Founder of Scottish Labour Party

20th December 2006, 08:16 AM	#58
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,426	I have worked for 28 years in the commercial real estate field, with specialization in finance and spreadsheet analysis of properties. I'm probably best suited to analyze the CT claims that Silverstein made a ton of money on 9-11 (which of course is ridiculous).
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20th December 2006, 08:20 AM	#59
JonnyFive Insurance Underwriter of Doom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,473	Originally Posted by Architect I notice that Wiz and 28th haven't posted.....hmmmmm.... Yeah, about that. Originally Posted by Brainster I have worked for 28 years in the commercial real estate field, with specialization in finance and spreadsheet analysis of properties. I'm probably best suited to analyze the CT claims that Silverstein made a ton of money on 9-11 (which of course is ridiculous). Want to be anti-CT buddies?
	__________________ "If you drink virus water ,i must say ‘don't drink it,it is trap’." -Emre_1974tr Ex-defendant in Simpson v. Randi, et al.

20th December 2006, 08:24 AM	#60
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,465	Originally Posted by Architect I notice that Wiz and 28th haven't posted.....hmmmmm.... They have BS in every field of CT.
	__________________ Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life. I♥NY You gotta love cops.

20th December 2006, 08:26 AM	#61
Architect Chief Punkah Wallah Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 8,478	At least ChristopherA would have had a try at answering it!
	__________________ When the men elected to make laws are but a small part of a foreign parliament, that is when all healthy national feeling dies. James Keir Hardie (1856 - 1915): Politician, Founder of Scottish Labour Party

20th December 2006, 08:30 AM	#62
JimBenArm Based on a true story! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 12,975	OK, I'll be serious for just this once. I was a nuclear-trained electrician in the Navy, on several submarines. 14 years active duty. Also was an instructor at Interior Communications Class "A" school. Worked as an instrument tech at a building insulation factory for 12 years, now do control system programming for water & wastewater plants for an engineering company. In other words, just another old coot.
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20th December 2006, 08:31 AM	#63
JonnyFive Insurance Underwriter of Doom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,473	Originally Posted by Architect At least ChristopherA would have had a try at answering it! Yes, he apparently has extensive experience as an uncertified surveyor, unceritifed draftsman, (probably uncertified) welder, high school dropout, and paranoid conspiracy theorist. This, of course, makes him qualified to speak on every issue relating to 9/11, ever.
	__________________ "If you drink virus water ,i must say ‘don't drink it,it is trap’." -Emre_1974tr Ex-defendant in Simpson v. Randi, et al.

20th December 2006, 08:32 AM	#64
Architect Chief Punkah Wallah Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 8,478	Ah, you just don't get delusion that like that more. When I was a lad.......
	__________________ When the men elected to make laws are but a small part of a foreign parliament, that is when all healthy national feeling dies. James Keir Hardie (1856 - 1915): Politician, Founder of Scottish Labour Party

20th December 2006, 08:45 AM	#65
VespaGuy Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,036	5+ years experience as a structural designer for engineered building components. I worked primarily with wood trusses (floor and roof), but I also designed steel trusses, sized steel columns and beams, sized and specified engineered lumber products, hangers, nails, screws and just about any other peice of material you can think of in the building industry. I have done full engineering design on structures that range from small houses to multi-level elderly retirement complexes. I worked under a P.E. and all of my calcs were verified and sealed. I am also a photographer - nothing professional, but I know much more than the fundamentals and more than enough to understand many of the anomolies that woos love to point to. Although it doesn't come into play much with 9/11 debunkung, it's nice to know the ins and outs of photography when it comes to many other woo claims ("no stars in moon photographs", orbs). Currently, I am a programmer and database admin, but I continue to work within the construction industry.
	__________________ "You are claiming it wasn't one. That is a positive claim." - Russell Pickering

20th December 2006, 08:48 AM	#67
Dave_46 Muse Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK (south Bucks) Posts: 938	No university qualifiations. A Higher National Certificate in mechanical engineering (day release), followed by nineteen years of fire-resistance testing (I finished up running the lab). A further fifteen years working for the Building Research Establishment doing various fire testing projects, including test development. So, I know a little bit about how fires burn. Now semi retired. Dave
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20th December 2006, 08:49 AM	#68
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,890	Originally Posted by rwguinn And I built a fence once. That one bit alone makes you more qualified than the Ctists I've seen. I swear not a one of them has ever even swung a hammer in earnest.
	__________________ Obviously, that means cats are indeed evil and that ownership or display of a feline is an overt declaration of one's affiliation with dark forces. - Cl1mh4224rd

20th December 2006, 08:50 AM	#69
JonnyFive Insurance Underwriter of Doom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,473	Originally Posted by JimBenArm Actually, 28th did post. Claimed he wasn't a fool. Still waiting for proof on that. I would argue that we've seen plenty of proof to the contrary. Originally Posted by 28th Kingdom There is no such thing as an expert. Only specialists. No experts, friend, only specialists. Do words not mean the same things to this guy as to the rest of humanity?
	__________________ "If you drink virus water ,i must say ‘don't drink it,it is trap’." -Emre_1974tr Ex-defendant in Simpson v. Randi, et al.

20th December 2006, 09:06 AM	#70
PerryLogan Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In the earth's deep core Posts: 980	I have a doctorate in English, which disqualifies me for everything.

20th December 2006, 09:18 AM	#71
Kiwiwriter Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 1,110	IC A School, hey? Originally Posted by JimBenArm OK, I'll be serious for just this once. I was a nuclear-trained electrician in the Navy, on several submarines. 14 years active duty. Also was an instructor at Interior Communications Class "A" school. Worked as an instrument tech at a building insulation factory for 12 years, now do control system programming for water & wastewater plants for an engineering company. In other words, just another old coot. I worked with ICs when I was in the Navy. They maintained the TV cameras and radio equipment in our AFRTS station in Japan. Very smart, sharp guys. If they were typical of the rate and the training you conducted, you should be very proud. I have a lot of respect for them.
	__________________ "When you hate, the only one that suffers is you because most of the people you hate don't know it and the rest don't care." -- Medgar Evers "My intensity is intense." -- Roger Clemens Check out my writing at http://www.usswashington.com/dl_index.htm and my blog at http://davidhlippman.wildbillguarnere.com

20th December 2006, 09:25 AM	#72
JonnyFive Insurance Underwriter of Doom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,473	Originally Posted by PerryLogan I have a doctorate in English, which disqualifies me for everything. Not in the conspiracy world. In their world, you could be a god! You have a doctorate! They could claim that another PhD (don't expect them to mention it's a PhD in a subject unrelated to their insane theories) supports their cause. You could have it all: ~~fame~~, ~~fortune~~, ~~respect~~, adoration from a bunch of 13 year old Loose Change fanboys.
	__________________ "If you drink virus water ,i must say ‘don't drink it,it is trap’." -Emre_1974tr Ex-defendant in Simpson v. Randi, et al.

20th December 2006, 09:35 AM	#73
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866	Dr Perry Logan....has an almost james bond villianish feel to it.... ....can you hoot in three different languages and rotate your head through 120 degrees? Coz big owl can....
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866

20th December 2006, 09:42 AM	#74
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details... Posts: 28,500	Nothing. I'm a computer programmer with an ability for reasoning higher than the common male Mandril. Oh, and I don't trust common sense. Other than that, zilch.
	__________________ The Onmyouza Theatre, An unofficial international fanclub forum dedicated to the Japanese heavy metal band Onmyo-Za: "In the interests of time and space, it is not unreasonable to cite one point at a time. Citing 30 is the equivalent of citing none. Obviously." - Robert Prey "Physical evidence must be observed and interpreted by witnesses which makes it subjective and subject to mistakes and to fraud." - Robert Prey

20th December 2006, 09:57 AM	#75
Hutch A broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's Privateers Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: About 7 Miles from the Saturn 5B Posts: 6,536	Originally Posted by Architect I notice that Wiz and 28th haven't posted.....hmmmmm.... All they would say is that we've made a bunch of claims but that we haven't proved it so they are free to discount our purerile boastings... Seriously, I am astounded at the level of expertise available here. I knew we were good, but I had no idea we were this good... I am humbled to be able to do modestly help where I can with this much brainpower available.
	__________________ If sheer righteous fury could accomplish anything worthwhile, Wolverines would have inherited the Galaxy long ago." -Web DuHavel, David Weber's "Honorverse" Series

20th December 2006, 09:57 AM	#76
pvt1863 Thinker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 128	BS Mechanical Engineering MS Nuclear Engineering, specializing in thermal hydraulics (not completely done -- finishing my thesis while working) Less than 4 months work experience in nuclear reactor thermal hydraulics. My expertise is in heat transfer. I focused on it during my undergraduate schooling and was a TA for my undergraduate school's heat transfer course. My Master's thesis also focuses on heat transfer. I am also well versed in statics, dynamics, and material science. I did undergraduate research in materials, finding the material properties of new alloys.