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Old 12th January 2007, 10:38 PM   #1
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Talking Another Twoof-War: RBN vs Alex Jones

LMAO

You may know Mr. Stadtmiller, RBN and ex-GCN Radiohost,
infamous for going crazy and throwing Fetzer off the network
and famous for the worlds most funny Truth-Radioshow with
Avery, Bermas and Hufschmidt.

Now he produced another masterpiece:

http://patriotwars.wordpress.com/

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John claims to have hired a private detective to investigate Alex Jones, he claims to have information about Alex using drugs and even went so far as to say that he could tell you who “your favorite hosts” drug dealer is. John labeled Alex as a problem child and talked about how he creates his own reality and has his own distorted perception. John warned Alex to “be careful what you do, there is such a thing called blow back”
This is the Show that started the war:
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt/0701/20...adtmiller1.mp3

Alex responds and vows to expose the fraud:
http://nw0.info/files/Radio/Jack%20B...2007-01-11.ogg

Sonny Crack (?) explaining the situation in an interview with Robb Revere:
http://www.revereradionetwork.com/me...011%202007.mp3


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Old 12th January 2007, 11:57 PM   #2
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Alex Jones does drugs? Heavens!

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, at the very suggestion.
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Old 12th January 2007, 11:59 PM   #3
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Holy Sh..moly! Alex is either pretty pissed, or still acting.
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I apologize if this comment is off topic or inappropriate for these forums, but I'd like to point out that Sonny Crack would be an awesome porn star name.
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I apologize if this comment is off topic or inappropriate for these forums, but I'd like to point out that Sonny Crack would be an awesome porn star name.
Only if it was "Sunny"

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Old 13th January 2007, 12:10 AM   #6
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I apologize if this comment is off topic or inappropriate for these forums, but I'd like to point out that Sonny Crack would be an awesome porn star name.
*LOL* !!! Don´t mind ...
we´re talking about Alex Jones ... it IS on topic!
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Old 13th January 2007, 12:53 AM   #7
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OMG after trying to listen to those MP3s and fast forwarding thru that BS my ears began to bleed. I didnt even get to the funny parts. These people are so full of themselves its beyond belief. And whos that annoying chick? Will her boyfriend slap her around for me? STFU already!!!. If i met these people in real life I could almost commit a felony!
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Old 13th January 2007, 03:58 AM   #8
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If these pottymouthed twerps aren't mentally ill, I'll eat my hat.

By the way, "Krisbo" is a little weasel named Kris Boro who lives here in Austin. Kris once wrote me a series of abusive e-mails. He likes to go around the internet smearing me. If anyone has Kris's address, please send it to me.

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Old 13th January 2007, 04:28 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by PerryLogan View Post
If these pottymouthed twerps aren't mentally ill, I'll eat my hat.

By the way, "Krisbro" is a little weasel named Kris Boro who lives here in Austin. Kris once wrote me a series of abusive e-mails. He likes to go around the internet smearing me. If anyone has Kris's address, please send it to me.
That confused me in the first place because there was
no mention of any Krisbo within this thread. These guys
at the "jackbloodforum" are pretty funny.

http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB2...r=asc&&start=0
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It was a new one to me, but then again, I don't pay attention much to rivalries and little squabbles. Hell, it took me a LONG time to even figure out what the whole perry Logan thing was all about.
I must say I am somewhat taken a back! Some one called into the National Intel Report Monday. Syzmanski was sitting in. The caller mentioned that about 3 months ago, several "Truth movement" personalites sort of imploded. Bolin and a few others. Now it seems AJ, JS and TAnderson all seem to be doing the same.

It's like the "heads" are devouring each other. Nick Begich and Tom Horn have been talking about "psychotronic control" of the human brain using things like HAARP and other devices. Reports of lots of chemtrails in the Austin area lately and AJ's talking about the allergy problems there.


Government Op to destroy the movement???
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Old 13th January 2007, 04:42 AM   #10
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Whoops. The name was "Krisbo."

There's a fledgling forum devoted to Alex Jones. Here's their take on the feud:
http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1384
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Looks like Bermas has switched from RBN to GCN:

http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2...adio-star.html

Could we see some Loose Change bashing from RBN soon?
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Old 13th January 2007, 04:59 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by PerryLogan View Post
Whoops. The name was "Krisbo."

There's a fledgling forum devoted to Alex Jones. Here's their take on the feud:
http://www.infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1384
I did read it and right now i´m reading the thread at the Jack Blood
Forum. Which is pretty interesting concerning AJ insider Info...

http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB2...=asc&&start=30

Originally Posted by Phil Jayhan
I am still wondering why anyone ever game a dime to Alex Jones who has 10,000 Acres of property in West Texas! When is all he does is smear people who apparently get in his way. Alex is a MILLIONAIRE and still grovels for donations? That alone should make me look like a Saint, who is whittling down my 40,000 down inheritance.

Ya, that line worked in a movie and amke believe. But it doesn't work in real life. I think people deserve to know what Alex Jones did to my life, for whatever reason. He never once apologized to me publicly nor did anything to alleviate his total indiscretions. And think it's about time Alex lives up to this mistake, and acknowledges it. A simple secret phone call asking for frogiveness simply isn't enough, when he caused all that pain and suffering in my own life, is it? Or if you disagree, give me your phone number and home address and the permission to spread lies about you on the internet and cause you all osrt of personal harm. Alex did this to me. And so did Watson. And they did it within hours of my first intervew with him/them.

And they need to own up to this and PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE. If they can publicly put my home phone number and home address on the net, in a false story which they ran accusing me of being a secret FEMA agent, then they CAN PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE for this?

How would YOU like it of I did this with YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION?
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Old 13th January 2007, 06:51 AM   #13
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GCN is the big daddy in patriot/conspiracy radio. For the pro wrestling fans, GCN is WWE and RBN is TNA. TV-wise, GCN is one of the big three networks and RBN is the CW network.

GCN is constantly 'stealing' RBN's stars as they can offer more exposure and more money. GCN has the bigger individual stars. Alex Jones alone probably equals the ratings/sales of RBN's top two or three hosts combined.
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Old 13th January 2007, 07:02 AM   #14
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GCN is the big daddy in patriot/conspiracy radio. For the pro wrestling fans, GCN is WWE and RBN is TNA. TV-wise, GCN is one of the big three networks and RBN is the CW network.

GCN is constantly 'stealing' RBN's stars as they can offer more exposure and more money. GCN has the bigger individual stars. Alex Jones alone probably equals the ratings/sales of RBN's top two or three hosts combined.
I would love to know why Stadtmiller investigated Jones,
Maybe it´s a result of Hufschmids "Let´s investigate every-
body within the Truthmovement" or he may be pissed
because Louder Than Words Radio and John Connor moved
to GCN.
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Only if it was "Sunny"

i prefer "Fanny" myself

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When these guys get into a shooting war, I'm just hoping they've all got loads of hollow point ammunition to use on each other.
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Old 13th January 2007, 08:23 AM   #17
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When these guys get into a shooting war, I'm just hoping they've all got loads of hollow point ammunition to use on each other.
Are we still talking about Alex Jones?
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Old 13th January 2007, 08:25 AM   #18
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I would love to know why Stadtmiller investigated Jones,
Maybe it´s a result of Hufschmids "Let´s investigate every-
body within the Truthmovement" or he may be pissed
because Louder Than Words Radio and John Connor moved
to GCN.
I think it's a wee bit hypocritical to investigate AFTER someone steals your hosts. It's a bit like:

"I know you're a drug-using pedophile that kicks cats and sticks firecrackers in frogs' butts, but I won't say anything as long I'm making money."

"What, you swiped my host?"

"Ladies and gentlemen, Alex Jones is the most evil man walking the planet."
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Old 13th January 2007, 08:38 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by StoneWT View Post
I think it's a wee bit hypocritical to investigate AFTER someone steals your hosts. It's a bit like:

"I know you're a drug-using pedophile that kicks cats and sticks firecrackers in frogs' butts, but I won't say anything as long I'm making money."

"What, you swiped my host?"

"Ladies and gentlemen, Alex Jones is the most evil man walking the planet."
So you think it´s because Bermas Show or who else "escaped" to GCN?
John Connor seems to have left because sympathy to the LTW team.
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I renew my accusation that the Truth movement is entirely driven by ego. There's no way any of these guys will ever come together and provide a unified theory of woo.
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Old 13th January 2007, 08:51 AM   #21
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So you think it´s because Bermas Show or who else "escaped" to GCN?
John Connor seems to have left because sympathy to the LTW team.
It's in addition to that. Jack Blood, met him in Austin, left RBN two years ago (three?). Stadtmiller went on a hate-filled rant about Jack betraying him. Almost everyone goes from RBN to GCN. Stadtmiller is literally having his living destroyed by the constant stream of RBN deserters. All he is left with are the quasi-racist hosts, incompetent kids like Bermas, and washed-up conspiracy talent that had a big book or video 10-15 years ago.
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It's in addition to that. Jack Blood, met him in Austin, left RBN two years ago (three?). Stadtmiller went on a hate-filled rant about Jack betraying him. Almost everyone goes from RBN to GCN. Stadtmiller is literally having his living destroyed by the constant stream of RBN deserters. All he is left with are the quasi-racist hosts, incompetent kids like Bermas, and washed-up conspiracy talent that had a big book or video 10-15 years ago.
Bermas is on air today with his show at GCN - if i didn´t
missed it. Too Bad that Stadtmiller is such an instable character,
i like the free archives and the non-subscription concept. :"/

Have to take a look for the rant with Jack Blood - i missed
the show.
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You could probably just google something like "stadtmiller"+"jack blood"+rant.
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I think it's a wee bit hypocritical to investigate AFTER someone steals your hosts. It's a bit like:

"I know you're a drug-using pedophile that kicks cats and sticks firecrackers in frogs' butts, but I won't say anything as long I'm making money."

"What, you swiped my host?"

"Ladies and gentlemen, Alex Jones is the most evil man walking the planet."
Hypocrasy? From the twoofers? Say it ain't so, Joe! Say it ain't so!
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You could probably just google something like "stadtmiller"+"jack blood"+rant.
I found it - it´s here:
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt/0502/20...tadtmiller.m3u

ETA:
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt/0502/20...adtmiller1.mp3
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt/0502/20...adtmiller2.mp3

I love their archive.
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Loose Change are also discussing this

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=2532
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Loose Change are also discussing this

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=2532

Thanks for the Link, Maccy. They´re all praising Alex Jones now...

This one is much more funny:

"Will Pdoherty Be Unbanned?"

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A message to mister Killtown or who ever was the "truthseeker" that banned mr. Charles Caltrop.

You little w*nker. you think you can keep me out. Think again. How do you justify your search for truth if you ban every one that disagrees. Yes I disagree 9/11 was not an inside job but since opinions like that are not tolerated on this forum for truth, I chose to mock you instead. I guess I went too far because even you ret*rds eventually saw through my posts.

I hope yu realize that... no you wont.


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And how do you justify all the deleting of post that don't fit your views? Like the most recent ones from Charles Caltrop.

So go ahead delete all this. Thats what the truth movement is about. You little nazis.
Geezus... Another Guy who needs a Badge for truth...

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Jack Blood and Alex Jones...Could there be two peas more in the same pod as those two.

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This is a perfect example of why the "truth" movement will go nowhere, but the debunkers stand strong.

If MarkyX makes a video, or Mark Roberts, or "The Doc", do you think anyone here is jealous, or wants to out do them? No, we admire, and promote them to the hilt.

With the "truth" movement, it is all about being the top dog to reveal the NWO or the Bad Big Brother. Whether it is the scholars, or the talk show hosts, it is all about being the number one guy, regardless. The content (the "truth") is only secondary.

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Originally Posted by T.A.M. View Post
This is a perfect example of why the "truth" movement will go nowhere, but the debunkers stand strong.

If MarkyX makes a video, or Mark Roberts, or "The Doc", do you think anyone here is jealous, or wants to out do them? No, we admire, and promote them to the hilt.

With the "truth" movement, it is all about being the top dog to reveal the NWO or the Bad Big Brother. Whether it is the scholars, or the talk show hosts, it is all about being the number one guy, regardless. The content (the "truth") is only secondary.
Amen. But then again, the only money to be made in this is on their side. They were able to present a united front for awhile to build the movement, but now it's all about who gets the market share.
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Amen. But then again, the only money to be made in this is on their side. They were able to present a united front for awhile to build the movement, but now it's all about who gets the market share.
Well, you never know.

I think if LC:FC ever gets a theatrical release (pun intended) there will be a large number of news media very interested in the debunking of the LC claims and very likely people such as Gravy may find themselves contacted for interviews and comments.

For which, in accordance with the terms and conditions of their NWO membership, Big Owl gets 33% of any fee charged.
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Well, you never know.

I think if LC:FC ever gets a theatrical release (pun intended) there will be a large number of news media very interested in the debunking of the LC claims and very likely people such as Gravy may find themselves contacted for interviews and comments.

For which, in accordance with the terms and conditions of their NWO membership, Big Owl gets 33% of any fee charged.
And then they will whine that the evil gubmint NWO
ripped the movie apart and there will be hundreds of
threads at their board whining all day long. I can´t
wait to see that...

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I think if LC:FC ever gets a theatrical release (pun intended) there will be a large number of news media very interested in the debunking of the LC claims and very likely people such as Gravy may find themselves contacted for interviews and comments.
Yeah! And that means no more crack orgies, Gravy. Time to clean up NOW!
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*LOL* Somebody hacked RBN Live and added a
ugly personal message. Revenge from Alex Jones?

http://www.rbnlive.com/
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*LOL* Somebody hacked RBN Live and added a
ugly personal message. Revenge from Alex Jones?

http://www.rbnlive.com/
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John Stadtmiller terrorizes RBN workers - (Menaces workers with firearm at staff meeting, and threatens to send police to workers' home)

I, Wes Perkins, am issuing this public affidavit as a warning to the public and as a protection to myself and my family from an individual who rules by intimidation, threats and fear.

"Don't listen to those crazy people, there's no danger to you here" retorts John and Sandra Stadtmiller as they try to explain away an incident in the summer of 2006 where John brings a gun into a staff meeting. Four eyewitnesses at the meeting verified that John brought a gun into a staff meeting after a short break, and set the gun down on the table, giving it a slight spin as he put it down. "I was startled to see the gun, and didn't know his intentions" states one of the eye witnesses. John and Sandra even blame the publicity of this event on, and continue to harass, a former employee who quit shortly after the incident, even though that employee wasn't even present in the room when this happened. That employee was recently told, "you better lay low". On a second occasion another eyewitness to a separate incident observed John showing off his handgun, and he accidentally dropped it. "That's how people get shot", said the witness.

Months earlier I was at a Denny's restaurant and two separate people who've had dealings with Stadtmiller mentioned about how Stadtmiller out of the blue had pointed firearms at them telling them that they had better do as he says. Those two people are Alex Jones and Keith Perry. Alex was telling his gun story while eating his eggs when Keith interjected that John had done the same thing to him.

Alex's story, which he recounted on Jack Blood's radio show on January 11, 2007; "I was at this guy's house (Stadtmiller's), and I'm sitting there doing a radio show with him, and all of a sudden I look up and he's pointing a Walter PPK handgun at me, and he has this maniacal look of pleasure, and I jumped up and said 'you'd better put that down - you've got a problem and I'm not going to be around you anymore'. And so I just went away."

Alex has also told me about John admitting to having a hand in getting Mark Koernke thrown into prison, as well as being involved in the breakup of the Michigan Militia. On two separate occasions while Alex was co-hosting the Saturday show with Stadtmiller, John told Alex not to defend Koernke - "because he's bad. He messed with me and you saw what happened to him. I'm glad he's in prison." Alex Jones had heard this from credible people in Michigan, but had never believed it until hearing it directly from Stadtmiller.
Alex told me about a situation at a gun show where John and Sandra tried to get Alex to do a straw man gun purchase for John, which Alex refused because it was against the law and the whole thing had a sting feel to it - there was a BATF guy drifting within a few feet from Alex when John asked Alex to purchase the gun for him. When Alex refused, John turned red with anger, and then suddenly became calm, whipped out his driver license, then bought the same handgun that John later pointed at Jones. Stadtmiller begged Alex to go to the gun show with him, and the whole thing had a feeling of a setup.
Just this past week Alex Jones told me how Stadtmiller called him on his cell phone after 1 am, sounding drunk or drugged, and Stadtmiller told him "when I pointed that gun at you, you were little and scared". Stadtmiller also said that he would like to beat Alex's wife.

Back to my situation.

I'm finally getting fed up with everything that I'm witnessing at RBN and want to put some distance between them and myself. Stadtmiller wants me to "turn over all of my technology and property" that manages the RBN archives. I'm telling them that they need to replace it with their own technology, so that they fully understand and can manage it properly. My technology is intellectual property and would take too much time to train others to manage.

Also, another thing I did was move out of a house that I was renting from someone who I learned through eyewitnesses was passing personal information about me to John.


Threatening to snitch out a patriot:

Now, I have a couple of outstanding warrants due to my protesting the National ID card a few years ago, and getting thrown into jail. I was charged with failure to show ID, then with a stacked charge on top of that of Interference with Public Duty. The underlying charge of failure to ID was dismissed, but the stacked charge was never dismissed even though it no longer had the underlying charge to support it. After many court appearances, and after realizing how the courts were nothing but a railroad job, I finally missed a court date and hence the warrants.

This week I have confirmation from a couple of RBN staffers who have overheard John and my former landlord discussing how they know where I moved to and will call the police on my warrants if I don't cooperate. Others warned me that John Stadtmiller was a snitch - now I have confirmation of the fact.

I'm not going to live in terror; it's time that someone stands up to the bully and his henchmen.

I'm through dealing with this evil man, John Stadtmiller. I'm also through dealing with his right-hand man, whom I also once believed to be an upstanding patriot. I'm ashamed to have ever gotten involved with these evil creatures, and am sorry for helping Stadtmiller succeed to the extent where he has caused this community so much pain and suffering.

Please distribute this story far and wide so that it may always be accessible to future would-be associates and/or supporters of John Stadtmiller, and may they right now be warned. Run...run away really fast!

A little more personal history:

I woke up to the new world order corruption in our society in 2000 listening to local patriot radio. In January 2004, talk show host John Stadtmiller was kicked off of the Genesis Communications Network.

Days later, I offered to help get Stadtmiller back on the air on shortwave and some local patriot radio outlets. Over the following months we produced Stadtmiller's daily two-hour radio show out of his home using a temporary makeshift studio, and during this time Stadtmiller setup his new radio network RBN (the Republic Broadcasting Network).

I brought a fair amount of my own computer equipment into the mix to assist in setting up RBN quickly - at no charge to RBN. To date I have not been compensated for the hardware that still resides at RBN. The equipment amounted to between $2,000 and $4,000 in value at the time of install. I had let Stadtmiller know from the start that I am a contractor and I own my own materials. All of my equipment at RBN has my labels on it, and now the locks have reportedly been changed to prevent me from having access to my equipment.

After the launch of RBN in June of 2004, I wrote the software to automate and manage RBN's archives and streaming, which has brought RBN to the forefront of the patriot movement as the only network with such a complete and high-quality streaming and archiving system. To date I have continued to provide this service to RBN. My system has allowed RBN to provide an incredible archive of information for a relatively low cost - only a small fraction of RBN's shortwave budget.

I have also been contracted to do board-op duties producing live radio shows on the network from the beginning. This gave me an up-close, insider look at the personalities behind the microphones at RBN. My alias for on-air purposes was "Producer Paul Martin". As producer I screened thousands of calls and produced thousands of hours of shows on RBN.

During my tenure at RBN I have witnessed dozens of temper tantrums by John Stadtmiller, including, but not limited to: shouting and hanging up on people from listeners to vendors to fellow broadcasters, kicking trash cans across the office, slamming doors, racing away on his Harley motorcycle and kicking his wife's dog in the throat. I have noticed that from day one producing his show he often spoke in a derogatory manner on his radio show about GCN (Genesis Communications Network), some of GCN's advertisers and sponsors and many of GCN's talk show hosts. I have personally witnessed this hundreds of times, and have always felt it was in poor taste, was divisive and had no place on the air. On a couple of occasions he even said on air that GCN was going under. I have also witnessed many occasions where the local patriot outlets would make programming decisions that were not always favorable to RBN, and Stadtmiller would erupt into a fit of rage against them, sometimes taking his complaints to the airwaves - insulting the management of those outlets on the air. I've always felt this was short-sided of Stadtmiller, as the local patriot outlets would air RBN's programming, including RBN's commercials, which directly benefited RBN, with no compensation whatsoever being made to the local outlets - they are not-for-profit and are only interested in waking up as many folks as possible to the truths of the dire condition of the nation.

I've come to realize that Stadtmiller is an expert wordsmith. He speaks on his radio show in such a way that folks who don't know him too well will think that he is the father of the patriot movement and that he controls and has founded all of the various radio outlets where his show is heard. He has often done entire shows where he would criticize listeners for not doing enough, usually at times where the finances were tight. I've also witnessed folks coming into the office to donate and would either thank Stadtmiller for airing Alex Jones or thank Stadtmiller for the local patriot outlets, neither of which are associated with Stadtmiller. He would nonetheless accept the money without any correction or clarification whatsoever that those outlets or talk show hosts are not affiliated with his network. I also personally know of folks who have loaned tens of thousands of dollars to RBN and have not been paid back. Stadtmiller for the first couple of years of RBN's existence often wordsmithed on the air about how he founded the GCN network. When finally confronted about this publicly by Alex Jones and by GCN owner Ted Anderson, John modified his language to say that he founded the network that later became GCN. This is still not quite correct, from the multiple sources that I have heard from who have first-hand knowledge of the facts.
There was a disturbing situation involving talk show host Chris Gerner regarding donations. Chris had found a large money donor who was willing to donate $15,000 to RBN solely because Chris was on the network covering Agenda-21 issues. The donor was willing to continue with donations given that Chris remain on the network doing what he always does. At the time the money came in, money was otherwise tight and RBN applied the money to various back bills, but still insisted that Chris personally pay for his own shortwave, disregarding that the donor specifically donated due to Chris. I witnessed similar trends on multiple occasions regarding the shortwave bills. It seemed Stadtmiller would entice new hosts to join without a written contract or specific details being ironed out regarding who would pay for shortwave time. Then if a host became boring to Stadtmiller, he would start billing the host for his shortwave time. If the host otherwise remained a "benefit" to the network, RBN would cover the cost without argument. Chris Gerner ultimately lost interest in doing the show and eventually quit over this issue.

The money-related issues mentioned above may not be so alarming in and of themselves, however, there is no accountability at RBN. RBN operates like a commercial entity in that it airs a full complement of commercials, but also operates as a non-profit and accepts donations. There is no board to oversee the operations, and in my opinion there is way too much overhead there. During startup he turned down a lot of money where folks wanted some sort of oversight over how their money would be managed, and only accepted money with relatively no strings attached. I've witnessed Stadtmiller spending money impulsively on a number of occasions.

In mid-2006 Stadtmiller brought in a fellow to assist in looking at the internal operations at RBN to attempt to flush out the problems and vision-build. During the numerous meetings I had suggested that we need a board of directors to buffer Stadtmiller's impulsive decision-making and provide some accounting oversight over the financial operations. Every time the subject came up Stadtmiller got very fidgety and irritable. The board never materialized and RBN continues to be managed in an impulsive manner.

Stadtmiller, on his Wednesday show, January 10, 2007, came out with a vicious attack piece of lies about Alex Jones. Although he never named Jones, he played Jones' bumper music underneath his rant and used a number of linking phrases that no patriot with any length in the movement would mistake as referring to any other than Alex Jones. John indicated that he had hired a private investigator for the previous 60 days to look into an egomaniacal talk show host, and he even knew who your favorite talk show hosts' drug dealer is. Alex has stated that this is a complete lie and challenges Stadtmiller to produce his proof. While John refers to drug use by Alex, it is actually John who is witnessed doing drugs by talk show host Jack Blood, as stated on Blood's January 11, 2007 show. Incidentally, John also refers to me several times in the hit piece, as the non-loyal staffer.

Mr. John Stadtmiller, I am loyal to the movement. Many in this movement know this, because they know my work and me. I assist many entities technically in their endeavors to wake people up and spread the truth of what's going on in our nation. I'm only loyal to you to the extent that you do good work - beyond that - I have no use for you. With this last hit piece you may have just put your foot in your mouth so deep that it will take the Jaws of Life to extract. You have had many good and talented employees, contractors and talk show hosts come and go through RBN - many of whom were chased away by your pompous, arrogant and demeaning personality. You have reversed the hard work of many good and well-meaning people over the past few years that I have witnessed.

As I've alluded to earlier, I've literally built Stadtmiller's network. I own the domain names rbnlive.com and rbnlive.net, and I want nothing further to do with a spider's web that is meant to catch well-meaning patriots like flies. As of Friday I requested to be paid by proxy through a trusted co-worker and they refused to hand him my payment. Effective today, Saturday, January 27, 2007, I am disconnecting all of my equipment and services that I own and provide to RBN. I am disconnecting all services that I provide through my equipment that is being held hostage, and I am removing myself from this monster's sphere of influence. I am simply severing all my connections to RBN - as a free man it is my right to not provide services to a user who has terrorized my family and others in the community.

John Stadtmiller I am finished dealing with you - so have a better life, but may God's judgment deal with you accordingly for your wrongdoings.

Lord, help us all, and heal our land and this movement.

Wes Perkins
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Did you read it? I know his temper from the Show about
Fetzer. I guess Alex Jones is a dead man.
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Did you read it?
Yes, but I don't follow CT in-fighting closely enough to be able to say anything insightful about it, except to say that I haven't seen this type of clique fight since high school.
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I wonder if his experience with Stadtmiller will soften Alex's opposition to gun control.
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Holy Sh..moly! Alex is either pretty pissed, or still acting.
That's hilarious.
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I would say the hack was from some the dumb kids that worship Alex Jones. Shortly after posting my comment mocking Stadtmiller's hypocrisy in 'exposing' Jones, I received an IM from someone posing as a child asking me to describe how to restrain a child in detail. I would place money that some of the pseudo researchers were too stupid to realize that

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"I know you're a drug-using pedophile that kicks cats and sticks firecrackers in frogs' butts, but I won't say anything as long I'm making money."
was mocking Stadtmiller and not an attack on Jones as a supposed child molester. His crew of mentally and emotionally unstable followers in their late teens/early twenties have a penchant for attacking those they perceive as the enemy.
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