Andre Kole

UnrepentantSinner · 13th January 2007, 01:44 AM

Are any of you familiar with Andre Kole? He's a Christian Illusionist pointed out to me by a friend of mine on Christianforums. He's also a bit of a debunker, but I'm not sure he'd pass my 29 of 30 test because he has a book on ID for sale on his resources page.

I'm thinking about opening up a dialogue with him to try and bring more Christians into organized Skepticism.

firecoins · 13th January 2007, 12:01 PM

coverting Christians into skeptics? Think you could run into some problems with that if it seen as conflicting with Chrisitan beliefs. Alot of people here seem to be Aethist/agnostic. Sketicism could be see as anti-Christ and it is in certain ways since skepicism can conflict with the bible.

Bob Klase · 13th January 2007, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by firecoins

coverting Christians into skeptics? Think you could run into some problems with that if it seen as conflicting with Chrisitan beliefs.

There's a lot of Christians that are skeptical about everything except their own religion.

UnrepentantSinner · 13th January 2007, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by firecoins

coverting Christians into skeptics? Think you could run into some problems with that if it seen as conflicting with Chrisitan beliefs. Alot of people here seem to be Aethist/agnostic. Sketicism could be see as anti-Christ and it is in certain ways since skepicism can conflict with the bible.

See, this is precisely the attitude that will drive Christians away from organized Skepticism, and precisely why I want to try and make our outreach efforts more Christian friendly. First off, why the false dichotomy? Why can't a Christian be a Skeptic? Second who cares of most JREFers are atheist/agnostic, we're still a very small minority in the overall population. Finally, I think you're falling for the false dichotomy presented, ironically, by both fundamentalists and atheists, which is all the Bible is literally true or none of it is true at all.

13th January 2007, 01:44 AM	#1
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 23,160	Andre Kole Are any of you familiar with Andre Kole? He's a Christian Illusionist pointed out to me by a friend of mine on Christianforums. He's also a bit of a debunker, but I'm not sure he'd pass my 29 of 30 test because he has a book on ID for sale on his resources page. I'm thinking about opening up a dialogue with him to try and bring more Christians into organized Skepticism.
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13th January 2007, 12:01 PM	#2
firecoins Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 3,054	coverting Christians into skeptics? Think you could run into some problems with that if it seen as conflicting with Chrisitan beliefs. Alot of people here seem to be Aethist/agnostic. Sketicism could be see as anti-Christ and it is in certain ways since skepicism can conflict with the bible.
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13th January 2007, 07:30 PM	#4
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 23,160	Originally Posted by firecoins coverting Christians into skeptics? Think you could run into some problems with that if it seen as conflicting with Chrisitan beliefs. Alot of people here seem to be Aethist/agnostic. Sketicism could be see as anti-Christ and it is in certain ways since skepicism can conflict with the bible. See, this is precisely the attitude that will drive Christians away from organized Skepticism, and precisely why I want to try and make our outreach efforts more Christian friendly. First off, why the false dichotomy? Why can't a Christian be a Skeptic? Second who cares of most JREFers are atheist/agnostic, we're still a very small minority in the overall population. Finally, I think you're falling for the false dichotomy presented, ironically, by both fundamentalists and atheists, which is all the Bible is literally true or none of it is true at all.
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13th January 2007, 04:59 PM	#3
Bob Klase Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 2,389	Originally Posted by firecoins coverting Christians into skeptics? Think you could run into some problems with that if it seen as conflicting with Chrisitan beliefs. There's a lot of Christians that are skeptical about everything except their own religion.