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chippy · 31st January 2007, 08:44 AM

I've never done a poll, so hopefully I won't screw this up...Killtown and I have been debating the following comment by Ernie Stulls regarding the Flight 93 crash scene:

Quote:

I saw parts of the wreckage with my own eyes, even one of the engines. It was lying in the bushes.

Do you think Stulls meant the engine in the original crash crater, or the engine in the pond?

Anti-sophist · 31st January 2007, 09:00 AM

I see Killtown's penchant for poll-making has rubbed off on you.

rwguinn · 31st January 2007, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by chippy

I've never done a poll, so hopefully I won't screw this up...Killtown and I have been debating the following comment by Ernie Stulls regarding the Flight 93 crash scene:

Do you think Stulls meant the engine in the original crash crater, or the engine in the pond?

No answer from me. To answer the poll requies paranormal powers(Distance Mind Reading), and besides--
it's an illegal poll, because it has no Planet X option

chippy · 31st January 2007, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Anti-sophist

I see Killtown's penchant for poll-making has rubbed off on you.

I'm just trying to make sure I'm not nuts.

beachnut · 31st January 2007, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by chippy

I've never done a poll, so hopefully I won't screw this up...Killtown and I have been debating the following comment by Ernie Stulls regarding the Flight 93 crash scene:

Do you think Stulls meant the engine in the original crash crater, or the engine in the pond?

Is this after they dug the engine out of the ground? Or after the crash before anyone moved anything?

Who cares and what does it mean? Debating killtown is an infinite job, since killtown is a nut case and dumb and just plain the dumbest guy I have ever seen in the movement of lies on 9/11.

Read some killtown stuff and take terroridiotcell and you have infinite dumb! These two guys are the top mentally ill CTers I have seen. They have no abilities to think or come up with facts on 9/11. They just talk and mess up simple math and photos. They actually appear to be dumber than humans can be! How can you be dumber than all humans? Are these guys just trashing up LCF? They can not think or use their minds. The only dumber CTer is the I got no facts just talk roxdog dolt.

What does superdolt roxdog say about the engine; bet he does not say anything but show his idiot avatar and Moses. I would hold out until roxdumbdog speaks up.

Good luck with killtown; he is ill.

So what did the kid most likely to flunk 3 grade say about the engine, what does killtown say?

jaydeehess · 31st January 2007, 09:49 AM

I cannot say which engine he was viewing at the time.

Since one was found in the crater and one in the pond it is patently obvious that the one he is speaking of had been moved from one of those locations.

There is one other psossiblity. This could be an APU , auxillary power unit if indeed this aircraft type utilised one. It would be much smaller than the main engines and likely located at the rear of the aircraft. It supplys electrical power but its thrust is neglible. It may well have ended up in the bushes beyond the crater since it is still a dense p[iece of material.

R.Mackey · 31st January 2007, 10:09 AM

That's a good point. Besides APUs, there was probably a RAT (Ram Air Turbine) on board. If both engines fail, the RAT deploys to supply electrical power and hydraulic pressure using the free airstream. I'm not 100% that Flight 93 had one, but most (if not all) big Boeings do. It's also possible that this is what Ernie Stulls saw. Many possible explanations.

Sounds like a washing machine full of rocks when it's running.

Gravy · 31st January 2007, 10:20 AM

"In the pond" makes it sound as if the engine was submerged. AFAIK, it was visible and smoking in a marshy area. I assume that's what Stull meant, as I doubt that the large engine part was removed from the crater and put amongst bushes.

But it's a question best asked of Stull.

uk_dave · 31st January 2007, 10:33 AM

I just think that when the NWO-FDFT (Fake Debris Field Team) got to the location we still weren't quite sure what type of aircraft we were going to be claiming crashed there, so they went ahead and buried several engines and other wreckage. If you dig around shanksville long enough you'll uncover approx. 15 jet engines, 5 TBM Avengers and Jimmy Hoffa.

But keep that info to yourselves.

The engine in the crater	4	80.00%
The engine in the pond	1	20.00%
Voters: 5. You may not vote on this poll

31st January 2007, 08:44 AM	#1
chippy Muse Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 523	Ernie Stulls comment: what engine? I've never done a poll, so hopefully I won't screw this up...Killtown and I have been debating the following comment by Ernie Stulls regarding the Flight 93 crash scene: Quote: I saw parts of the wreckage with my own eyes, even one of the engines. It was lying in the bushes. Do you think Stulls meant the engine in the original crash crater, or the engine in the pond?
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31st January 2007, 09:00 AM	#2
Anti-sophist Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,542	I see Killtown's penchant for poll-making has rubbed off on you.
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31st January 2007, 09:03 AM	#3
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 8,508	Originally Posted by chippy I've never done a poll, so hopefully I won't screw this up...Killtown and I have been debating the following comment by Ernie Stulls regarding the Flight 93 crash scene: Do you think Stulls meant the engine in the original crash crater, or the engine in the pond? No answer from me. To answer the poll requies paranormal powers(Distance Mind Reading), and besides-- it's an illegal poll, because it has no Planet X option
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31st January 2007, 09:08 AM	#4
chippy Muse Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 523	Originally Posted by Anti-sophist I see Killtown's penchant for poll-making has rubbed off on you. I'm just trying to make sure I'm not nuts.
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31st January 2007, 09:20 AM	#5
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,961	Originally Posted by chippy I've never done a poll, so hopefully I won't screw this up...Killtown and I have been debating the following comment by Ernie Stulls regarding the Flight 93 crash scene: Do you think Stulls meant the engine in the original crash crater, or the engine in the pond? Is this after they dug the engine out of the ground? Or after the crash before anyone moved anything? Who cares and what does it mean? Debating killtown is an infinite job, since killtown is a nut case and dumb and just plain the dumbest guy I have ever seen in the movement of lies on 9/11. Read some killtown stuff and take terroridiotcell and you have infinite dumb! These two guys are the top mentally ill CTers I have seen. They have no abilities to think or come up with facts on 9/11. They just talk and mess up simple math and photos. They actually appear to be dumber than humans can be! How can you be dumber than all humans? Are these guys just trashing up LCF? They can not think or use their minds. The only dumber CTer is the I got no facts just talk roxdog dolt. What does superdolt roxdog say about the engine; bet he does not say anything but show his idiot avatar and Moses. I would hold out until roxdumbdog speaks up. Good luck with killtown; he is ill. So what did the kid most likely to flunk 3 grade say about the engine, what does killtown say?

31st January 2007, 09:49 AM	#6
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,968	I cannot say which engine he was viewing at the time. Since one was found in the crater and one in the pond it is patently obvious that the one he is speaking of had been moved from one of those locations. There is one other psossiblity. This could be an APU , auxillary power unit if indeed this aircraft type utilised one. It would be much smaller than the main engines and likely located at the rear of the aircraft. It supplys electrical power but its thrust is neglible. It may well have ended up in the bushes beyond the crater since it is still a dense p[iece of material.

31st January 2007, 10:09 AM	#7
R.Mackey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The armpit of L.A. Posts: 7,857	That's a good point. Besides APUs, there was probably a RAT (Ram Air Turbine) on board. If both engines fail, the RAT deploys to supply electrical power and hydraulic pressure using the free airstream. I'm not 100% that Flight 93 had one, but most (if not all) big Boeings do. It's also possible that this is what Ernie Stulls saw. Many possible explanations. Sounds like a washing machine full of rocks when it's running.
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31st January 2007, 10:20 AM	#8
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	"In the pond" makes it sound as if the engine was submerged. AFAIK, it was visible and smoking in a marshy area. I assume that's what Stull meant, as I doubt that the large engine part was removed from the crater and put amongst bushes. But it's a question best asked of Stull.
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31st January 2007, 10:33 AM	#9
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866	I just think that when the NWO-FDFT (Fake Debris Field Team) got to the location we still weren't quite sure what type of aircraft we were going to be claiming crashed there, so they went ahead and buried several engines and other wreckage. If you dig around shanksville long enough you'll uncover approx. 15 jet engines, 5 TBM Avengers and Jimmy Hoffa. But keep that info to yourselves.
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