A question about the JREF "Wizard School" video

Questioninggeller · 11th July 2003, 10:53 PM

On the "Wizard School" or other video (forgot the name) does it show how people do the "spoon bending". I know of the techique to "bend", but I would like to know how to "bend to break". I found one this at (http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=488) but I don't want to pay for a method I already know about.

If it's on one of the JREF videos let me know which one.

Cain · 13th July 2003, 03:32 AM

Was he suppose to be, um, bending that with his psychic powers?

Mind-blowing.

Questioninggeller · 13th July 2003, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Cain
Was he suppose to be, um, bending that with his psychic powers?

Mind-blowing.

HAHA

Leif Roar · 14th July 2003, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by Questioninggeller
On the "Wizard School" or other video (forgot the name) does it show how people do the "spoon bending". I know of the techique to "bend", but I would like to know how to "bend to break". I found one this at (http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=488) but I don't want to pay for a method I already know about.

If it's on one of the JREF videos let me know which one.

I don't know if this is what you mean, but a long time ago (fourteen-fifteen years at least, so details might very well be wrong) I read a small booklet that analysed Uri Geller's performance on Norwegian television back in the seventies. The author's conclusion was that Geller had most likely prepared a spoon in advance by inducing metal fatigue in the spoon (basically, having a machine that makes several thousand tiny bends and straightenings of the spoon) to make it snap in two with a small amount of force.

It's a rather far-fetched explanation perhaps - but the author built his case on Geller having had access to identical spoons (it was the same kind of spoons which was used in the TV station's cafeteria), there was what might be marks from clamps or fastenings on the spoon that had been broken and that Uri Geller as a former aerospace engineer (I believe) would be quite familiar with metal fatigue.

There was probably more indications which the author based his case on, but I can't remember more than those. I do remember that according to the author Geller had never bent spoons in his TV performances, but only broken them; and that he had only once been presented with spoons of a type he hadn't had access too in advance - at that show his spoon-breaking powers failed.

Questioninggeller · 14th July 2003, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Leif Roar
I do remember that according to the author Geller had never bent spoons in his TV performances, but only broken them; and that he had only once been presented with spoons of a type he hadn't had access too in advance - at that show his spoon-breaking powers failed.

It's been a while, but I think that was on Johnny Carson with James Randi onlooking to make sure Geller did not tamper with anything ahead of time. It was the late 1980's, I think...?

Brian · 14th July 2003, 09:32 PM

Penn & Tellers book How to Play with your Food, gives one method of spoon breaking. As you might expect, it's %99.9 preparation.
Should be able to find the book on eBay, some funny stuff in there.

Leif Roar · 15th July 2003, 04:24 AM

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Originally posted by Questioninggeller

It's been a while, but I think that was on Johnny Carson with James Randi onlooking to make sure Geller did not tamper with anything ahead of time. It was the late 1980's, I think...?

No, the book was written sometime in the early eighties or so. I think it was at a TV performance in Netherlands or Belgium - but as I said, it's been a long while since I read the book.

Voob · 15th July 2003, 05:26 AM

Actually "Wizard School" is Andrew's video, geared toward the Harry Potter market.
I'm waiting for my "Psychokinetic Silverware" by Banachek to arrive!

Peter S. · 16th July 2003, 05:55 AM

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Originally posted by Voob
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I'm waiting for my "Psychokinetic Silverware" by Banachek to arrive!

You'll love it!!

11th July 2003, 10:53 PM	#1
Questioninggeller Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,450	A question about the JREF "Wizard School" video On the "Wizard School" or other video (forgot the name) does it show how people do the "spoon bending". I know of the techique to "bend", but I would like to know how to "bend to break". I found one this at (http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=488) but I don't want to pay for a method I already know about. If it's on one of the JREF videos let me know which one.
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13th July 2003, 03:32 AM	#2
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13th July 2003, 02:18 PM	#3
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14th July 2003, 05:27 AM	#4
Leif Roar Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,050	Re: A question about the JREF "Wizard School" video Quote: Originally posted by Questioninggeller On the "Wizard School" or other video (forgot the name) does it show how people do the "spoon bending". I know of the techique to "bend", but I would like to know how to "bend to break". I found one this at (http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=488) but I don't want to pay for a method I already know about. If it's on one of the JREF videos let me know which one. I don't know if this is what you mean, but a long time ago (fourteen-fifteen years at least, so details might very well be wrong) I read a small booklet that analysed Uri Geller's performance on Norwegian television back in the seventies. The author's conclusion was that Geller had most likely prepared a spoon in advance by inducing metal fatigue in the spoon (basically, having a machine that makes several thousand tiny bends and straightenings of the spoon) to make it snap in two with a small amount of force. It's a rather far-fetched explanation perhaps - but the author built his case on Geller having had access to identical spoons (it was the same kind of spoons which was used in the TV station's cafeteria), there was what might be marks from clamps or fastenings on the spoon that had been broken and that Uri Geller as a former aerospace engineer (I believe) would be quite familiar with metal fatigue. There was probably more indications which the author based his case on, but I can't remember more than those. I do remember that according to the author Geller had never bent spoons in his TV performances, but only broken them; and that he had only once been presented with spoons of a type he hadn't had access too in advance - at that show his spoon-breaking powers failed.
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14th July 2003, 01:56 PM	#5
Questioninggeller Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,450	Re: Re: A question about the JREF "Wizard School" video Quote: Originally posted by Leif Roar I do remember that according to the author Geller had never bent spoons in his TV performances, but only broken them; and that he had only once been presented with spoons of a type he hadn't had access too in advance - at that show his spoon-breaking powers failed. It's been a while, but I think that was on Johnny Carson with James Randi onlooking to make sure Geller did not tamper with anything ahead of time. It was the late 1980's, I think...?
	__________________ "Paranormal phenomena have a habit of going away whenever they are tested under rigorous conditions. This is why the $740,000 reward of James Randi, offered to anyone who can demonstrate a paranormal effect under proper scientific controls, is safe." --Richard Dawkins

14th July 2003, 09:32 PM	#6
Brian Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,780	Penn & Tellers book How to Play with your Food, gives one method of spoon breaking. As you might expect, it's %99.9 preparation. Should be able to find the book on eBay, some funny stuff in there.
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15th July 2003, 04:24 AM	#7
Leif Roar Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,050	Re: Re: Re: A question about the JREF "Wizard School" video Quote: Originally posted by Questioninggeller It's been a while, but I think that was on Johnny Carson with James Randi onlooking to make sure Geller did not tamper with anything ahead of time. It was the late 1980's, I think...? No, the book was written sometime in the early eighties or so. I think it was at a TV performance in Netherlands or Belgium - but as I said, it's been a long while since I read the book.
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15th July 2003, 05:26 AM	#8
Voob Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 316	Actually "Wizard School" is Andrew's video, geared toward the Harry Potter market. I'm waiting for my "Psychokinetic Silverware" by Banachek to arrive!
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16th July 2003, 05:55 AM	#9
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