Political Make up of the Conspiracy Forum

William Rea · 17th February 2007, 05:36 PM

I am intruiged by the political make up of this forum so I have raised a poll to get a benchmark.

I have kept the categories relatively broad so I'm sure most people will be able to fit theirselves in somewhere.

I don't know if these polls are anonymous but I am not interested in individuals anyway, just the general leanings of the forum.

Unsecured Coins · 17th February 2007, 05:37 PM

if it helps... I write my name on every ballot during presidential elections

JimBenArm · 17th February 2007, 06:18 PM

You want politics, go elsewhere. My political leanings are none of your business, so fugitaboudit.

Oliver · 17th February 2007, 06:21 PM

I can't vote. It's no multi-choice poll...

Dave Rogers · 17th February 2007, 06:24 PM

This isn't an easy one to reply to. I'm a liberal in Britain, which tends to mean something along the lines of a centrist, to the left of the Conservative party and far to the left of New Labour. However, in the USA the word appears to mean something different, at least when spoken by right wing commentators in a particular tone of voice. Any idea how that translates?

Dave

Brainache · 17th February 2007, 06:27 PM

I don't know your definition of someone like me. I don't think I fit any of your categories.

Oliver · 17th February 2007, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by William Rea

I am intruiged by the political make up of this forum so I have raised a poll to get a benchmark.

I have kept the categories relatively broad so I'm sure most people will be able to fit theirselves in somewhere.

I don't know if these polls are anonymous but I am not interested in individuals anyway, just the general leanings of the forum.

I don't even know what "political make up" you're talking
about. The 9/11 issue is a political one, too. So there are
blurred lines between politics and CT's. But what i really
can't understand is why the Holocaust is an issue in here.
Could someone sum up the conspiracy theorie about it?

Alt+F4 · 17th February 2007, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Brainache

I don't know your definition of someone like me. I don't think I fit any of your categories.

Me either, but I don't mind telling people my politics. I'm American, I don't belong to any political party but I vote democratic 90% of the time. Above all, I'm a Bush-hater.

defaultdotxbe · 17th February 2007, 06:54 PM

http://www.politicalcompass.org/questionnaire

http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...0.13&soc=-0.21

Bobert · 17th February 2007, 07:55 PM

I will not reveal my political leanings but I am currently hanging to the left if that helps.

Totovader · 17th February 2007, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bobert

I will not reveal my political leanings but I am currently hanging to the left if that helps.

I've heard that if you tuck it to the right- and alternate every other day- it helps...

Anti-sophist · 17th February 2007, 08:42 PM

Uhm, what is the difference between a libertarian and a "fiscal conservative, social libertarian".

As best as I can tell, true libertarians are very fisically conservative (in the American sense of the term).

Brainster · 17th February 2007, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Anti-sophist

Uhm, what is the difference between a libertarian and a "fiscal conservative, social libertarian".

Foreign policy. I have nothing to do with libertarians on that issue.

jaydeehess · 17th February 2007, 09:11 PM

In Canada I usually vote for the Liberal Party but have in the past voted For the Conservative Party and once in a while even for the New Democratic Party

I have no friggin idea how that fits your poll.

David Wong · 17th February 2007, 09:40 PM

We've got two votes right now for "Fascist."

I was wondering who the other one was.

Brainache · 17th February 2007, 09:50 PM

OK anyway here's me: I generally vote Labor and spread my preferences between The Greens and The Democrats, making sure I always put the Liberal Party last. That counts for State and Federal elections, Upper and Lower houses of Parliament.

Does that make any sense to you Mr W. Rea?

The Silver Shadow · 17th February 2007, 10:34 PM

Universally, I'm liberal with some conservative tendencies...

T.A.M. · 17th February 2007, 10:34 PM

In general I am a Liberal, with left leanings on a number of areas. However, In certain areas I am what might be called "conservative".

TAM

Pardalis · 17th February 2007, 10:56 PM

Me too, it depends on the issues and even sometimes it depends on the day, somedays I'm more liberal, somedays more conservative.

stilicho · 18th February 2007, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by David Wong

We've got two votes right now for "Fascist."

I was wondering who the other one was.

That would be me. I don't know whether I am more a fiscal fascist, a Premonstratensian monetist, or merely a pecuniary baboon.

I am a strong supporter of the MLB Hall Of Fame voting scheme. If no candidate gets mentioned on 3/4 of the ballots then nobody gets the job. Not only that, but Ron Santo might make it into the White House before he goes to Cooperstown.

Firestone · 18th February 2007, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

http://www.politicalcompass.org/questionnaire

http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...0.63&soc=-4.77

Dog Town · 18th February 2007, 02:07 AM

c.rock/ What ever happened... to just CRAZY? /c.rock

I didn't like my choices. See above.

ETA: Oops thought you were asking about twoofer politics. Leaving it up , cuz I like it,but...
Me, fiscal conserve, social dem...to a point! Like a strong military, big stick, and all...

Panoply_Prefect · 18th February 2007, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

http://www.politicalcompass.org/questionnaire

http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...0.13&soc=-0.21

I was just centimeters from Ghandi...

Cheers,
SLOB

greyleonard · 18th February 2007, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by SLOB

I was just centimeters from Ghandi...

You were browsing with your cell phone?

greyleonard · 18th February 2007, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Totovader

I've heard that if you tuck it to the right- and alternate every other day- it helps...

Alternate what?
If he's right-handed and at least a few years past puberty, the direction it hangs is a done deal.

TobiasTheViking · 18th February 2007, 02:44 AM

Hm, nothing that fit me. So i chose socialist.

Panoply_Prefect · 18th February 2007, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by greyleonard

You were browsing with your cell phone?

Ah bollocks I meant millimeters. That would make me a "leftist libertarian"

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85

I'd make a lousy neo-con.

EDIT: Oh, and when I scrolled down I found myself between Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama... I cant be that bad then,
SLOB

The_Fire · 18th February 2007, 03:20 AM

As a Dane with a multi party system which isn't REMOTELY covered by the above poll, I find myself unable to answer that question. Besides: None of your business.

greyleonard · 18th February 2007, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by SLOB

Ah bollocks I meant millimeters. That would make me a "leftist libertarian"

Heheh, just kidding.

I don't care for these kinds of categories; who is on the left of the line and who is on the right.
I prefer to be ahead of the line, drawing it forward. Progressive, iow.

Gravy · 18th February 2007, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by William Rea

I am intruiged by the political make up of this forum so I have raised a poll to get a benchmark.

William, what makes you think this type of poll will give you an accurate benchmark of the "political make up" of this JREF subforum?

William Rea · 18th February 2007, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by Brainache

I don't know your definition of someone like me. I don't think I fit any of your categories.

It's not my definition that counts, if you don't feel you personally fit into any of the categories then don't vote.

William Rea · 18th February 2007, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by Gravy

William, what makes you think this type of poll will give you an accurate benchmark of the "political make up" of this JREF subforum?

I wasn't claiming any science or accuracy was I? Why search for meanings in something that you clearly do not want to be involved with, it's not like I'm forcing you to vote at the end of a gun.

William Rea · 18th February 2007, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by The_Fire

As a Dane with a multi party system which isn't REMOTELY covered by the above poll, I find myself unable to answer that question. Besides: None of your business.

It's not my definition that counts, if you don't feel you personally fit into any of the categories then don't vote. If it's none of my business then just don't vote, why post in the thread if it's none of my business? Just so you get the satisfaction of telling me so?

William Rea · 18th February 2007, 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by TobiasTheCommie

Hm, nothing that fit me. So i chose socialist.

That's cool, thanks for voting in the spirit of the question, like I said it is only a generalisation.

greyleonard · 18th February 2007, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by William Rea

It's not my definition that counts, if you don't feel you personally fit into any of the categories then don't vote.

* Disclaimer!: This is not a scientific poll.

William Rea · 18th February 2007, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Brainache

OK anyway here's me: I generally vote Labor and spread my preferences between The Greens and The Democrats, making sure I always put the Liberal Party last. That counts for State and Federal elections, Upper and Lower houses of Parliament.

Does that make any sense to you Mr W. Rea?

Yes it does but, I didn't need to have specifics about you personally, it's not my intention to create a whole set of labels for individual forum members.

PerryLogan · 18th February 2007, 04:00 AM

I know it's not a scientific poll, but the results match my impressions of JREF fairly closely. Of course I'm skeptical we have any real fascists here.

If they were polled, I guess conspiracy folks would all claim to be "none of the above."

greyleonard · 18th February 2007, 04:03 AM

@ William Rea:

I think it's an interesting Q, too, to be honest.
But what if the poll questions paired woo left & woo right with OCT left and OCT right?

4 choices:

I lean left and am a so-called OCTer
I lean left and think it was an inside job
I lean right and am a so-called OCTer
I lean right and think it was an inside job.

Gravy · 18th February 2007, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by William Rea

I am intruiged by the political make up of this forum so I have raised a poll to get a benchmark. (bolding mine)

Originally Posted by Gravy

William, what makes you think this type of poll will give you an accurate benchmark of the "political make up" of this JREF subforum?

Originally Posted by William Rea

I wasn't claiming any science or accuracy was I? Why search for meanings in something that you clearly do not want to be involved with, it's not like I'm forcing you to vote at the end of a gun.

William, what does the word "benchmark" mean to you?

MaGZ · 18th February 2007, 06:01 AM

The list should be:

Fascist
Neo-nazi
Nationalist
Rightist
Conservative
Social conservative
Fiscal conservative
Paleo-conservative
Neo-conservative
Independent
Centrist
Libertarian
Liberal
Leftist
Social Democrat
Socialist
Marxist Socialist
Communist
Trotskyite
Maoist
Anarchist

fascist, nationalist	4	4.08%
fiscal & social conservative	5	5.10%
fiscal conservative, social libertarian	25	25.51%
libertarian	16	16.33%
liberal	34	34.69%
socialist	12	12.24%
anarchist, socialist	2	2.04%
Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll

17th February 2007, 05:36 PM	#1
William Rea Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 983	Political Make up of the Conspiracy Forum I am intruiged by the political make up of this forum so I have raised a poll to get a benchmark. I have kept the categories relatively broad so I'm sure most people will be able to fit theirselves in somewhere. I don't know if these polls are anonymous but I am not interested in individuals anyway, just the general leanings of the forum.
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17th February 2007, 06:18 PM	#3
JimBenArm Based on a true story! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 12,984	You want politics, go elsewhere. My political leanings are none of your business, so fugitaboudit.
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17th February 2007, 06:21 PM	#4
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	I can't vote. It's no multi-choice poll...
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17th February 2007, 06:27 PM	#6
Brainache Nasty Brutish and Tall Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Knob Hill. Posts: 9,086	I don't know your definition of someone like me. I don't think I fit any of your categories.
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17th February 2007, 05:37 PM	#2
Unsecured Coins Hoku-maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: in your macaronis. warming my feets Posts: 5,741	if it helps... I write my name on every ballot during presidential elections

17th February 2007, 06:24 PM	#5
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In a world lit only by fire. Posts: 17,894	This isn't an easy one to reply to. I'm a liberal in Britain, which tends to mean something along the lines of a centrist, to the left of the Conservative party and far to the left of New Labour. However, in the USA the word appears to mean something different, at least when spoken by right wing commentators in a particular tone of voice. Any idea how that translates? Dave

17th February 2007, 06:28 PM	#7
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Originally Posted by William Rea I am intruiged by the political make up of this forum so I have raised a poll to get a benchmark. I have kept the categories relatively broad so I'm sure most people will be able to fit theirselves in somewhere. I don't know if these polls are anonymous but I am not interested in individuals anyway, just the general leanings of the forum. I don't even know what "political make up" you're talking about. The 9/11 issue is a political one, too. So there are blurred lines between politics and CT's. But what i really can't understand is why the Holocaust is an issue in here. Could someone sum up the conspiracy theorie about it?
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17th February 2007, 06:36 PM	#8
Alt+F4 diabolical globalist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Department of Abandoned Places Posts: 9,780	Originally Posted by Brainache I don't know your definition of someone like me. I don't think I fit any of your categories. Me either, but I don't mind telling people my politics. I'm American, I don't belong to any political party but I vote democratic 90% of the time. Above all, I'm a Bush-hater.
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17th February 2007, 06:54 PM	#9
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17th February 2007, 07:55 PM	#10
Bobert Government Loyalist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kennesaw GA Posts: 4,146	I will not reveal my political leanings but I am currently hanging to the left if that helps.

17th February 2007, 08:39 PM	#11
Totovader Game Warden Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,240	Originally Posted by Bobert I will not reveal my political leanings but I am currently hanging to the left if that helps. I've heard that if you tuck it to the right- and alternate every other day- it helps...
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17th February 2007, 08:42 PM	#12
Anti-sophist Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,542	Uhm, what is the difference between a libertarian and a "fiscal conservative, social libertarian". As best as I can tell, true libertarians are very fisically conservative (in the American sense of the term).
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17th February 2007, 08:54 PM	#13
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,443	Originally Posted by Anti-sophist Uhm, what is the difference between a libertarian and a "fiscal conservative, social libertarian". Foreign policy. I have nothing to do with libertarians on that issue.
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17th February 2007, 09:11 PM	#14
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,822	In Canada I usually vote for the Liberal Party but have in the past voted For the Conservative Party and once in a while even for the New Democratic Party I have no friggin idea how that fits your poll.

17th February 2007, 09:40 PM	#15
David Wong Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,768	We've got two votes right now for "Fascist." I was wondering who the other one was.
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17th February 2007, 09:50 PM	#16
Brainache Nasty Brutish and Tall Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Knob Hill. Posts: 9,086	OK anyway here's me: I generally vote Labor and spread my preferences between The Greens and The Democrats, making sure I always put the Liberal Party last. That counts for State and Federal elections, Upper and Lower houses of Parliament. Does that make any sense to you Mr W. Rea?
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17th February 2007, 10:34 PM	#17
The Silver Shadow Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Physically, Toronto; Mentally, Monte Carlo Posts: 1,063	Universally, I'm liberal with some conservative tendencies...
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17th February 2007, 10:34 PM	#18
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	In general I am a Liberal, with left leanings on a number of areas. However, In certain areas I am what might be called "conservative". TAM

17th February 2007, 10:56 PM	#19
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	Me too, it depends on the issues and even sometimes it depends on the day, somedays I'm more liberal, somedays more conservative.

18th February 2007, 12:18 AM	#20
stilicho Trurl's Electronic Bard Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,714	Originally Posted by David Wong We've got two votes right now for "Fascist." I was wondering who the other one was. That would be me. I don't know whether I am more a fiscal fascist, a Premonstratensian monetist, or merely a pecuniary baboon. I am a strong supporter of the MLB Hall Of Fame voting scheme. If no candidate gets mentioned on 3/4 of the ballots then nobody gets the job. Not only that, but Ron Santo might make it into the White House before he goes to Cooperstown.

18th February 2007, 01:44 AM	#21
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18th February 2007, 02:07 AM	#22
Dog Town Space for Rent Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,467	c.rock/ What ever happened... to just CRAZY? /c.rock I didn't like my choices. See above. ETA: Oops thought you were asking about twoofer politics. Leaving it up , cuz I like it,but... Me, fiscal conserve, social dem...to a point! Like a strong military, big stick, and all...
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18th February 2007, 02:32 AM	#23
Panoply_Prefect Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,075	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe http://www.politicalcompass.org/questionnaire http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...0.13&soc=-0.21 I was just centimeters from Ghandi... Cheers, SLOB

18th February 2007, 02:38 AM	#24
greyleonard Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: rural Virginia Posts: 222	Originally Posted by SLOB I was just centimeters from Ghandi... You were browsing with your cell phone?

18th February 2007, 02:42 AM	#25
greyleonard Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: rural Virginia Posts: 222	Originally Posted by Totovader I've heard that if you tuck it to the right- and alternate every other day- it helps... Alternate what? If he's right-handed and at least a few years past puberty, the direction it hangs is a done deal.

18th February 2007, 02:44 AM	#26
TobiasTheViking Resident Viking Autist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: With your mother Posts: 6,923	Hm, nothing that fit me. So i chose socialist.
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18th February 2007, 03:06 AM	#27
Panoply_Prefect Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,075	Originally Posted by greyleonard You were browsing with your cell phone? Ah bollocks I meant millimeters. That would make me a "leftist libertarian" Economic Left/Right: -4.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85 I'd make a lousy neo-con. EDIT: Oh, and when I scrolled down I found myself between Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama... I cant be that bad then, SLOB
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18th February 2007, 03:20 AM	#28
The_Fire Unimpressed Female Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: 8th level of Hell - Maleborgia Posts: 3,037	As a Dane with a multi party system which isn't REMOTELY covered by the above poll, I find myself unable to answer that question. Besides: None of your business.
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18th February 2007, 03:22 AM	#29
greyleonard Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: rural Virginia Posts: 222	Originally Posted by SLOB Ah bollocks I meant millimeters. That would make me a "leftist libertarian" Heheh, just kidding. I don't care for these kinds of categories; who is on the left of the line and who is on the right. I prefer to be ahead of the line, drawing it forward. Progressive, iow.
	Last edited by greyleonard; 18th February 2007 at 03:23 AM. Reason: added the 2 final words

18th February 2007, 03:33 AM	#30
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by William Rea I am intruiged by the political make up of this forum so I have raised a poll to get a benchmark. William, what makes you think this type of poll will give you an accurate benchmark of the "political make up" of this JREF subforum?
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18th February 2007, 03:49 AM	#31
William Rea Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 983	Originally Posted by Brainache I don't know your definition of someone like me. I don't think I fit any of your categories. It's not my definition that counts, if you don't feel you personally fit into any of the categories then don't vote.
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18th February 2007, 03:51 AM	#32
William Rea Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 983	Originally Posted by Gravy William, what makes you think this type of poll will give you an accurate benchmark of the "political make up" of this JREF subforum? I wasn't claiming any science or accuracy was I? Why search for meanings in something that you clearly do not want to be involved with, it's not like I'm forcing you to vote at the end of a gun.
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18th February 2007, 03:54 AM	#33
William Rea Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 983	Originally Posted by The_Fire As a Dane with a multi party system which isn't REMOTELY covered by the above poll, I find myself unable to answer that question. Besides: None of your business. It's not my definition that counts, if you don't feel you personally fit into any of the categories then don't vote. If it's none of my business then just don't vote, why post in the thread if it's none of my business? Just so you get the satisfaction of telling me so?
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18th February 2007, 03:56 AM	#34
William Rea Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 983	Originally Posted by TobiasTheCommie Hm, nothing that fit me. So i chose socialist. That's cool, thanks for voting in the spirit of the question, like I said it is only a generalisation.
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