Teens Confess to Crop Circles, Dash Hopes

Pyrrho · 12th July 2003, 07:53 AM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in536134.shtml

Scroll down a bit to this story.

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The circles wiped out about $500 worth of wheat. But Larry Balestra, the field's owner, told the paper he had no intention of pressing charges. In fact, he told the paper he's preparing to sell $12 alien T-shirts.

Still, Balestra said he was little disappointed to hear the teens had claimed responsibility.

“It's sad,” Balestra told the paper, “because this made so many people happy.”

Sorry Larry, but those people are nuts.

AlienX · 12th July 2003, 08:13 AM

Well it's pretty obvious that Aliens have taken over some kids as a cover up so when/if we do make contact they don't get dragged through the courts by a bunch of angry farmers ;-).

I mean they are in enough trouble already with the abducting thing....

I mean who's ever gonna believe that crop circles are anything other than Alien in origin <shhesh> they must think were stoopid and believe any old rubbish ;-).

AX

RC · 12th July 2003, 09:39 AM

I live sorta near this crop circle and I was kind of hoping it was done by aliens.

Pyrrho · 12th July 2003, 09:42 AM

I wish some aliens would stop by my place and flatten my back field. Can't get a mower in there this year.

Fade · 12th July 2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by RC
I live sorta near this crop circle and I was kind of hoping it was done by aliens.

Wow, are you serious, or were you making a joke?

zakur · 12th July 2003, 12:50 PM

Forget the crop circle nonsense. What about that 123-pound, 4-year-old Russian wrestler on the same page? What's the explanation for THAT?

RC · 12th July 2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by Fade

Wow, are you serious, or were you making a joke?

It was a joke.

I have enjoyed watching the nightly local news reports with dowsers and psychics and people looking for energy and whatnot.

One psychic had a statue of an owl that apparently told her the work was done by aliens and this owl is never wrong according to her. I guess there's a first time for everything.

Also, people were interviewed today who insist that the teens are lying and that the work was definitely done by aliens. Of course, I guess we don't really have proof that the teens really did it.

Pyrrho · 12th July 2003, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by zakur
Forget the crop circle nonsense. What about that 123-pound, 4-year-old Russian wrestler on the same page? What's the explanation for THAT?

Overfeeding.

Pyrrho · 12th July 2003, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by RC
It was a joke.

I have enjoyed watching the nightly local news reports with dowsers and psychics and people looking for energy and whatnot.

One psychic had a statue of an owl that apparently told her the work was done by aliens and this owl is never wrong according to her. I guess there's a first time for everything.

Also, people were interviewed today who insist that the teens are lying and that the work was definitely done by aliens. Of course, I guess we don't really have proof that the teens really did it.

There was a UFO sighting:

http://www.dailyrepublic.com/article...news/news6.txt

Edited to add one more link:

http://www.thereporter.com/Current/D...l#id3140836299

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While the teens told their story, local UFO expert Steve Moreno of Psi Applications, said he had proof that the boys did not make the circles. He claims investigators have concluded that the work was done by a powerful energy. He did not credit extraterrestrials.

Moreno said early photos of the formation showed a classic hourglass shape that was made by a "spinning vortex of energy."

He discounted the report of a woman who told The Reporter she was a reincarnated alien and that the fields were not touched by aliens.

"There are lunatics out there," Moreno said.

Ayup...

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/c...-7921611c.html

http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/sto...-7958955c.html

Nice pic at that last link. You can see the irregularities in the circles, but not bad for a group of amateurs.

Yahweh · 12th July 2003, 01:20 PM

Really? Teens? I know they are capable of some terrible procrastination and cramming before tests, but to make cropcircles?!? That goes against everything I know about teen behavior. Well, I guess I feel silly now. I've been hiding in a thick cement bunker where I recycled my urine because I thought aliens were after me, good to know it was only teenagers.

zakur · 12th July 2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Pyrrho

http://www.dailyrepublic.com/article...news/news6.txt

http://www.thereporter.com/Current/D...l#id3140836299

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/c...-7921611c.html

http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/sto...-7958955c.html

The woo-woos really flocked to this one, didn't they? People in tin-foil hats, dude meditating in the center of the big circle, even a douser trying to "sense residual energy fields." If you're a seller of crystals and incense, I suggest you get your butt over to Solano County and take advantage of this market!

The aerial picture in that last story does show the obvious crudeness of the formation. And yet one true believer still insists that it "was very sophisticated, beyond what anyone could do as a hoax."

wert · 12th July 2003, 11:29 PM

The local newstations here in Sacramento have been featuring this in one way or another every night since the crop circles were made. I'm guessing the story about the teens won't get half the coverage.

Fade · 12th July 2003, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RC

It was a joke.

I have enjoyed watching the nightly local news reports with dowsers and psychics and people looking for energy and whatnot.

One psychic had a statue of an owl that apparently told her the work was done by aliens and this owl is never wrong according to her. I guess there's a first time for everything.

Also, people were interviewed today who insist that the teens are lying and that the work was definitely done by aliens. Of course, I guess we don't really have proof that the teens really did it.

Hilarious.

I tried to set up a crop circle here, but the ground is usually so moist that you can't hide footprints at all, and the whole thing winds up looking cheesy. Also, our crops tend to be fruit and ground veggies, so I couldn't find a big grassy wheat field

13th July 2003, 12:24 AM

Probably easier than setting up crop circles in the Everglades!

Drifterman · 13th July 2003, 12:51 AM

Ah crop circles - beautiful things if done properly.

I remember driving from Northamptonshire to Hampshire in the mid '90s - in late summer it was unusual if you didn't see 1 or 2 on the journey.

A friend and I tried to make a small one, but we were too drunk to take it seriously.

I particularly liked the one that was shaped like a footballer that appeared at Cheesefoot Head near Winchester in the summer of 1996 (I think). Those aliens must've been great fans.

I've always wondered if the "mystery" of crop circles has been exacerbated by their other name - corn circles. In England, "corn" = "wheat", whereas in the USA I believe "corn" = "maize". Flattening fully grown maize would be a lot more impressive than flattening wheat.

Fade · 13th July 2003, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by rwald
Probably easier than setting up crop circles in the Everglades!

Considering the landscape of Washington, it's not too different!

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I've always wondered if the "mystery" of crop circles has been exacerbated by their other name - corn circles. In England, "corn" = "wheat", whereas in the USA I believe "corn" = "maize". Flattening fully grown maize would be a lot more impressive than flattening wheat.

Exactly! Crop Circlers make sure the wheat has already been harvested (usually) before they go and make a design. That way, the farmer gets a pretty design and some attention, but doesn't lose money by loss of wheat sales. The guys in California didn't have such respect!

PinkRabbit · 13th July 2003, 01:25 PM

Personally, I'd love to do the crop circle thing. But, alas, I live in the desert, and cactus circles are a bit masochistic even for me ... though the ground is more than dry enough to hide your footprints.

Of course the emergency room visit to get all of the needles removed would probably be a dead giveaway.

In all seriousness, is there anyone here who's ever made one? I always thought it would be kind of fun. A sort of oversize Spirograph project, and I've long thought some of the designs were rather striking.

Barb

Freda · 13th July 2003, 01:52 PM

Quote by Fade:
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Exactly! Crop Circlers make sure the wheat has already been harvested (usually) before they go and make a design.

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How can they make a design if the wheat has been harvested ?

Usually over here at least it is done before the harvest - and photographs have shown the wheat/corn laid down without being broken at all.

Freda

zakur · 4th December 2003, 08:31 AM

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Study Finds Crop Circles Were Not a Hoax

FAIRFIELD (BCN) -- A five-month study has concluded that the mysterious crop circles that appeared in a Solano County wheat field in June were not the work of four teenage boys who claimed they made them as a hoax.

Steve Moreno of Psi Applications, a group that describes itself as researchers of paranormal, UFO and metaphysical phenomena, will discuss the results of the group's investigation at a news conference Wednesday afternoon in Fairfield.

The investigation concludes the "hoax was a hoax."

"We've concluded that it's highly unlikely that four teenage boys could have made the large, complex crop circle that appeared on June 28 in Larry Balestra's field. The scientific data, and our ongoing investigation, tend to point towards some other, perhaps anomalous, unknown source," founder and director Moreno said on Psi Applications' Web site.

"The physical changes in the wheat stalks can't be duplicated. It's a phenomenon," Moreno said Tuesday evening. He suggested a form of energy, possibly plasma energy, caused the crop circle formations.

Whatever.

Here's another story: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...AGAJ3FJ931.DTL

Rolfe · 4th December 2003, 08:54 AM

Rolfe.

CFLarsen · 4th December 2003, 09:15 AM

Crop Circles...or just Crap Circles?

Nyarlathotep · 4th December 2003, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by CFLarsen
Crop Circles...or just Crap Circles?

A cr@p circle would be a whole different thing. I would really, really not want to see a cr@p cricle. Or smell it.

Psiload · 4th December 2003, 09:26 AM

Posted by Zakur:

FAIRFIELD (BCN) -- A five-month study has concluded that the mysterious crop circles that appeared in a Solano County wheat field in June were not the work of four teenage boys who claimed they made them as a hoax.

Steve Moreno of Psi Applications, a group that describes itself as researchers of paranormal, UFO and metaphysical phenomena, will discuss the results of the group's investigation at a news conference Wednesday afternoon in Fairfield.

The investigation concludes the "hoax was a hoax."

Mr. Moreno added, "I'll be willing to accept the hoax theory, when the aliens land and deny any involvement in producing the circle."

Deetee · 4th December 2003, 09:52 AM

Listen up, all you B******s!
I expend a lot of time and plasma energy creating things of beauty for all earthlings to admire, and will truck no ridicule.....!

hgc · 4th December 2003, 10:14 AM

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In fact, he told the paper he's preparing to sell $12 alien T-shirts.

I am suddenly reminded of Charlotte's Web, and how people flocked to some farm from all over to see the message in the spider web. But did Homer Zuckerman hock t-shirts and whatnot? No. E.B. White is so damn quaint.

Ratman_tf · 4th December 2003, 03:19 PM

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FAIRFIELD (BCN) -- A five-month study has concluded that the mysterious crop circles that appeared in a Solano County wheat field in June were not the work of four teenage boys who claimed they made them as a hoax.

Steve Moreno of Psi Applications, a group that describes itself as researchers of paranormal, UFO and metaphysical phenomena, will discuss the results of the group's investigation at a news conference Wednesday afternoon in Fairfield.

The investigation concludes the "hoax was a hoax."

Mr. Moreno added, "I'll be willing to accept the hoax theory, when the aliens land and deny any involvement in producing the circle." [/b]

Then we can move on to the Mole People hypothesis!

Iamme · 4th December 2003, 03:42 PM

zakur---I would like someone to steer me to a website where somebody who has some credentials..like with a reputable university...has engaged in a study of the theory that the stalks are not being damaged in a consistant manor with that of human feet, planks, etc.

RC---I wouldn't have been joking. Wouldn't it be fun to know that we have a new frontier beyond the vastness of space, and the depths of the oceans? This frontier could consist of scientists trying to figure out if some forces within the earth are acting upon the crops. Or, if people from the future have found a way to communicate signs to us. Or, alien visitation. Or playful (a) god(s).

Kilted_Canuck · 4th December 2003, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Yahweh
Really? Teens? I know they are capable of some terrible procrastination and cramming before tests, but to make cropcircles?!? That goes against everything I know about teen behavior. Well, I guess I feel silly now. I've been hiding in a thick cement bunker where I recycled my urine because I thought aliens were after me, good to know it was only teenagers.

I was going to do a crop circle last summer with a few of my friends, but never really got around to it.

I was going to do it, honest!

The Don · 5th December 2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by Kilted_Canuck

I was going to do a crop circle last summer with a few of my friends, but never really got around to it.

I think that the majority of aliens are equally indolent

Hand Bent Spoon · 7th December 2003, 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by Yahweh
I've been hiding in a thick cement bunker where I recycled my urine because I thought aliens were after me, good to know it was only teenagers.

Admit it. Even when you leave your bunker, you're going to continue recycling your urine, aren't you?

Jeff Corey · 7th December 2003, 04:31 AM

We have no crops here, just 2 feet of snow.
The aliens have already made some "snow angels" so maybe "snow circles" will ensue.

arcticpenguin · 7th December 2003, 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by Kilted_Canuck

I was going to do a crop circle last summer with a few of my friends, but never really got around to it.

I was going to do it, honest!

If any of you want to create crop circles, I would advise:

1) Get the permission of the farmer. You are destroying his means of livelihood. Offer to pay for the damage to the crops (or make a deal on tourism rights)

2) Videotape the act of creation, so you don't get accused of hoaxing a hoax, such as happened in this case.

Iamme · 7th December 2003, 03:44 PM

Jeff---Just be sure not to simply 'ergonomically' shovel them away before videotaping them!

I just had a brain fart. There are people who believe that authentic, unexplained crop circles came FIRST. THEN, human duplicators started making them. Consider this: SUPPOSEDLY some crop circles were documented as early as midevil times? If this is so...wouldn't it be fascinating if very large, geometric patterns were made that could not be observed from trees, hills or mountains? I wonder if such formations existed? But then this poses THIS question?: How did anyone know, to be able to document, that there was a crop circle formation unless there WAS a tree, hill or mountain? IF there were any crop circles less the visual vantage point, let's just say....then for what purpose would a perpetrator make the crop circle if nobody could see it? Also, if these large formations were done before the invention of aircraft...to what purpose would it be for a man to make a crop circle? IF THEY made it...it seems like the only purpose could be for them to honor some god. I mean....would they really consider aliens...and not just a god? Regardless, as to who they were dedicating the crop circle...one would have to presume that the crop circle would exhibit a 'languager of man, towards the god/alien. Right?(Rather than some message in reverse that would appear to be a message TO us) But what if pre-flight crop circles appeared to be of some unknown design that nobody could figure out what it meant? If such crop circles existed back then, I could see then coming to some conclusion that they were either made by the wind, or magnetic forces, or any of the discussed otherworldly reasons for them.

It's possible though, that hoaxers back then could have done such designs, if they knew they were viewable by other earthlings, with the purpose of making it look like we were under observation by the gods...and perhaps this helped to achieve some sort of agenda, on their part.

It would be interesting though, to learn more about any of the pre-flight crop circles. Although...didn't Erich Von Danniken feature such works, (that are in Peru?), in Chariots of the Gods? But, the difference there is thatr those large-scale formations were like in the picture of earth things...like, a giant bird. To have crop circles that are like some universal equation, pre-flight era, would be worth some interest though.

zultr · 9th December 2003, 11:16 AM

Those kids from MIT who recreated those crop circles that the "experts" said couldn't be done by humans were obviously wrong

12th July 2003, 07:53 AM	#1
Pyrrho Man in Black Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,678	Teens Confess to Crop Circles, Dash Hopes http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in536134.shtml Scroll down a bit to this story. Quote: The circles wiped out about $500 worth of wheat. But Larry Balestra, the field's owner, told the paper he had no intention of pressing charges. In fact, he told the paper he's preparing to sell $12 alien T-shirts. Still, Balestra said he was little disappointed to hear the teens had claimed responsibility. “It's sad,” Balestra told the paper, “because this made so many people happy.” Sorry Larry, but those people are nuts.
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12th July 2003, 08:13 AM	#2
AlienX Thinker Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 129	Well it's pretty obvious that Aliens have taken over some kids as a cover up so when/if we do make contact they don't get dragged through the courts by a bunch of angry farmers ;-). I mean they are in enough trouble already with the abducting thing.... I mean who's ever gonna believe that crop circles are anything other than Alien in origin <shhesh> they must think were stoopid and believe any old rubbish ;-). AX
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12th July 2003, 09:39 AM	#3
RC JREF Kid Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 240	I live sorta near this crop circle and I was kind of hoping it was done by aliens.
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12th July 2003, 09:42 AM	#4
Pyrrho Man in Black Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,678	I wish some aliens would stop by my place and flatten my back field. Can't get a mower in there this year.
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12th July 2003, 11:41 AM	#5
Fade Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,055	Quote: Originally posted by RC I live sorta near this crop circle and I was kind of hoping it was done by aliens. Wow, are you serious, or were you making a joke?
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12th July 2003, 12:50 PM	#6
zakur Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,265	Forget the crop circle nonsense. What about that 123-pound, 4-year-old Russian wrestler on the same page? What's the explanation for THAT?
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RC JREF Kid Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 240	Quote: Originally posted by Fade Wow, are you serious, or were you making a joke? It was a joke. I have enjoyed watching the nightly local news reports with dowsers and psychics and people looking for energy and whatnot. One psychic had a statue of an owl that apparently told her the work was done by aliens and this owl is never wrong according to her. I guess there's a first time for everything. Also, people were interviewed today who insist that the teens are lying and that the work was definitely done by aliens. Of course, I guess we don't really have proof that the teens really did it.
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12th July 2003, 01:01 PM	#8
Pyrrho Man in Black Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,678	Quote: Originally posted by zakur Forget the crop circle nonsense. What about that 123-pound, 4-year-old Russian wrestler on the same page? What's the explanation for THAT? Overfeeding.
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12th July 2003, 01:08 PM	#9
Pyrrho Man in Black Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,678	Quote: Originally posted by RC It was a joke. I have enjoyed watching the nightly local news reports with dowsers and psychics and people looking for energy and whatnot. One psychic had a statue of an owl that apparently told her the work was done by aliens and this owl is never wrong according to her. I guess there's a first time for everything. Also, people were interviewed today who insist that the teens are lying and that the work was definitely done by aliens. Of course, I guess we don't really have proof that the teens really did it. There was a UFO sighting: http://www.dailyrepublic.com/article...news/news6.txt Edited to add one more link: http://www.thereporter.com/Current/D...l#id3140836299 Quote: While the teens told their story, local UFO expert Steve Moreno of Psi Applications, said he had proof that the boys did not make the circles. He claims investigators have concluded that the work was done by a powerful energy. He did not credit extraterrestrials. Moreno said early photos of the formation showed a classic hourglass shape that was made by a "spinning vortex of energy." He discounted the report of a woman who told The Reporter she was a reincarnated alien and that the fields were not touched by aliens. "There are lunatics out there," Moreno said. Ayup... http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/c...-7921611c.html http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/sto...-7958955c.html Nice pic at that last link. You can see the irregularities in the circles, but not bad for a group of amateurs.
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Yahweh Ayay ashay ayay Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,029	Really? Teens? I know they are capable of some terrible procrastination and cramming before tests, but to make cropcircles?!? That goes against everything I know about teen behavior. Well, I guess I feel silly now. I've been hiding in a thick cement bunker where I recycled my urine because I thought aliens were after me, good to know it was only teenagers.
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12th July 2003, 01:27 PM	#11
zakur Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,265	Quote: Originally posted by Pyrrho http://www.dailyrepublic.com/article...news/news6.txt http://www.thereporter.com/Current/D...l#id3140836299 http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/c...-7921611c.html http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/sto...-7958955c.html The woo-woos really flocked to this one, didn't they? People in tin-foil hats, dude meditating in the center of the big circle, even a douser trying to "sense residual energy fields." If you're a seller of crystals and incense, I suggest you get your butt over to Solano County and take advantage of this market! The aerial picture in that last story does show the obvious crudeness of the formation. And yet one true believer still insists that it "was very sophisticated, beyond what anyone could do as a hoax."
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12th July 2003, 11:29 PM	#12
wert Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 371	The local newstations here in Sacramento have been featuring this in one way or another every night since the crop circles were made. I'm guessing the story about the teens won't get half the coverage.
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Fade Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,055	Quote: Originally posted by RC It was a joke. I have enjoyed watching the nightly local news reports with dowsers and psychics and people looking for energy and whatnot. One psychic had a statue of an owl that apparently told her the work was done by aliens and this owl is never wrong according to her. I guess there's a first time for everything. Also, people were interviewed today who insist that the teens are lying and that the work was definitely done by aliens. Of course, I guess we don't really have proof that the teens really did it. Hilarious. I tried to set up a crop circle here, but the ground is usually so moist that you can't hide footprints at all, and the whole thing winds up looking cheesy. Also, our crops tend to be fruit and ground veggies, so I couldn't find a big grassy wheat field
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13th July 2003, 12:24 AM	#14
rwald Guest Posts: n/a	Probably easier than setting up crop circles in the Everglades!
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Drifterman Thinker Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 125	Ah crop circles - beautiful things if done properly. I remember driving from Northamptonshire to Hampshire in the mid '90s - in late summer it was unusual if you didn't see 1 or 2 on the journey. A friend and I tried to make a small one, but we were too drunk to take it seriously. I particularly liked the one that was shaped like a footballer that appeared at Cheesefoot Head near Winchester in the summer of 1996 (I think). Those aliens must've been great fans. I've always wondered if the "mystery" of crop circles has been exacerbated by their other name - corn circles. In England, "corn" = "wheat", whereas in the USA I believe "corn" = "maize". Flattening fully grown maize would be a lot more impressive than flattening wheat.
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13th July 2003, 10:25 AM	#16
Fade Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,055	Quote: Originally posted by rwald Probably easier than setting up crop circles in the Everglades! Considering the landscape of Washington, it's not too different! Quote: I've always wondered if the "mystery" of crop circles has been exacerbated by their other name - corn circles. In England, "corn" = "wheat", whereas in the USA I believe "corn" = "maize". Flattening fully grown maize would be a lot more impressive than flattening wheat. Exactly! Crop Circlers make sure the wheat has already been harvested (usually) before they go and make a design. That way, the farmer gets a pretty design and some attention, but doesn't lose money by loss of wheat sales. The guys in California didn't have such respect!
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13th July 2003, 01:25 PM	#17
PinkRabbit Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 329	Personally, I'd love to do the crop circle thing. But, alas, I live in the desert, and cactus circles are a bit masochistic even for me ... though the ground is more than dry enough to hide your footprints. Of course the emergency room visit to get all of the needles removed would probably be a dead giveaway. In all seriousness, is there anyone here who's ever made one? I always thought it would be kind of fun. A sort of oversize Spirograph project, and I've long thought some of the designs were rather striking. Barb

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Freda New Blood Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9	Teens confess to crop circles Quote by Fade: ________________________________________ Exactly! Crop Circlers make sure the wheat has already been harvested (usually) before they go and make a design. ________________________________________ How can they make a design if the wheat has been harvested ? Usually over here at least it is done before the harvest - and photographs have shown the wheat/corn laid down without being broken at all. Freda
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4th December 2003, 08:31 AM	#19
zakur Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,265	Quote: Study Finds Crop Circles Were Not a Hoax FAIRFIELD (BCN) -- A five-month study has concluded that the mysterious crop circles that appeared in a Solano County wheat field in June were not the work of four teenage boys who claimed they made them as a hoax. Steve Moreno of Psi Applications, a group that describes itself as researchers of paranormal, UFO and metaphysical phenomena, will discuss the results of the group's investigation at a news conference Wednesday afternoon in Fairfield. The investigation concludes the "hoax was a hoax." "We've concluded that it's highly unlikely that four teenage boys could have made the large, complex crop circle that appeared on June 28 in Larry Balestra's field. The scientific data, and our ongoing investigation, tend to point towards some other, perhaps anomalous, unknown source," founder and director Moreno said on Psi Applications' Web site. "The physical changes in the wheat stalks can't be duplicated. It's a phenomenon," Moreno said Tuesday evening. He suggested a form of energy, possibly plasma energy, caused the crop circle formations. Whatever. Here's another story: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...AGAJ3FJ931.DTL
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4th December 2003, 09:22 AM	#22
Nyarlathotep Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 7,514	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen Crop Circles...or just Crap Circles? A cr@p circle would be a whole different thing. I would really, really not want to see a cr@p cricle. Or smell it.
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4th December 2003, 09:26 AM	#23
Psiload Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,105	Posted by Zakur: FAIRFIELD (BCN) -- A five-month study has concluded that the mysterious crop circles that appeared in a Solano County wheat field in June were not the work of four teenage boys who claimed they made them as a hoax. Steve Moreno of Psi Applications, a group that describes itself as researchers of paranormal, UFO and metaphysical phenomena, will discuss the results of the group's investigation at a news conference Wednesday afternoon in Fairfield. The investigation concludes the "hoax was a hoax." Mr. Moreno added, "I'll be willing to accept the hoax theory, when the aliens land and deny any involvement in producing the circle."
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4th December 2003, 09:52 AM	#24
Deetee Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,790	Listen up, all you B******s! I expend a lot of time and plasma energy creating things of beauty for all earthlings to admire, and will truck no ridicule.....!
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4th December 2003, 10:14 AM	#25
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 13,002	Quote: In fact, he told the paper he's preparing to sell $12 alien T-shirts. I am suddenly reminded of Charlotte's Web, and how people flocked to some farm from all over to see the message in the spider web. But did Homer Zuckerman hock t-shirts and whatnot? No. E.B. White is so damn quaint.

4th December 2003, 03:19 PM	#26
Ratman_tf Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,002	Quote: FAIRFIELD (BCN) -- A five-month study has concluded that the mysterious crop circles that appeared in a Solano County wheat field in June were not the work of four teenage boys who claimed they made them as a hoax. Steve Moreno of Psi Applications, a group that describes itself as researchers of paranormal, UFO and metaphysical phenomena, will discuss the results of the group's investigation at a news conference Wednesday afternoon in Fairfield. The investigation concludes the "hoax was a hoax." Mr. Moreno added, "I'll be willing to accept the hoax theory, when the aliens land and deny any involvement in producing the circle." [/b] Then we can move on to the Mole People hypothesis!
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4th December 2003, 03:42 PM	#27
Iamme Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Western Wisconsin Posts: 4,622	zakur---I would like someone to steer me to a website where somebody who has some credentials..like with a reputable university...has engaged in a study of the theory that the stalks are not being damaged in a consistant manor with that of human feet, planks, etc. RC---I wouldn't have been joking. Wouldn't it be fun to know that we have a new frontier beyond the vastness of space, and the depths of the oceans? This frontier could consist of scientists trying to figure out if some forces within the earth are acting upon the crops. Or, if people from the future have found a way to communicate signs to us. Or, alien visitation. Or playful (a) god(s).
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4th December 2003, 07:28 PM	#28
Kilted_Canuck MaterialistPatriotic AgnosticSocialistNaieve Saskatchewanian RadicalCanuckistani Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,377	Quote: Originally posted by Yahweh Really? Teens? I know they are capable of some terrible procrastination and cramming before tests, but to make cropcircles?!? That goes against everything I know about teen behavior. Well, I guess I feel silly now. I've been hiding in a thick cement bunker where I recycled my urine because I thought aliens were after me, good to know it was only teenagers. I was going to do a crop circle last summer with a few of my friends, but never really got around to it. I was going to do it, honest!

5th December 2003, 12:11 AM	#29
The Don Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cymru Posts: 8,233	Quote: Originally posted by Kilted_Canuck I was going to do a crop circle last summer with a few of my friends, but never really got around to it. I think that the majority of aliens are equally indolent

7th December 2003, 03:24 AM	#30
Hand Bent Spoon Guest Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 378	Quote: Originally posted by Yahweh I've been hiding in a thick cement bunker where I recycled my urine because I thought aliens were after me, good to know it was only teenagers. Admit it. Even when you leave your bunker, you're going to continue recycling your urine, aren't you?
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7th December 2003, 04:31 AM	#31
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	We have no crops here, just 2 feet of snow. The aliens have already made some "snow angels" so maybe "snow circles" will ensue.

7th December 2003, 07:04 AM	#32
arcticpenguin woo ban clan Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,717	Quote: Originally posted by Kilted_Canuck I was going to do a crop circle last summer with a few of my friends, but never really got around to it. I was going to do it, honest! If any of you want to create crop circles, I would advise: 1) Get the permission of the farmer. You are destroying his means of livelihood. Offer to pay for the damage to the crops (or make a deal on tourism rights) 2) Videotape the act of creation, so you don't get accused of hoaxing a hoax, such as happened in this case.
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7th December 2003, 03:44 PM	#33
Iamme Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Western Wisconsin Posts: 4,622	Jeff---Just be sure not to simply 'ergonomically' shovel them away before videotaping them! I just had a brain fart. There are people who believe that authentic, unexplained crop circles came FIRST. THEN, human duplicators started making them. Consider this: SUPPOSEDLY some crop circles were documented as early as midevil times? If this is so...wouldn't it be fascinating if very large, geometric patterns were made that could not be observed from trees, hills or mountains? I wonder if such formations existed? But then this poses THIS question?: How did anyone know, to be able to document, that there was a crop circle formation unless there WAS a tree, hill or mountain? IF there were any crop circles less the visual vantage point, let's just say....then for what purpose would a perpetrator make the crop circle if nobody could see it? Also, if these large formations were done before the invention of aircraft...to what purpose would it be for a man to make a crop circle? IF THEY made it...it seems like the only purpose could be for them to honor some god. I mean....would they really consider aliens...and not just a god? Regardless, as to who they were dedicating the crop circle...one would have to presume that the crop circle would exhibit a 'languager of man, towards the god/alien. Right?(Rather than some message in reverse that would appear to be a message TO us) But what if pre-flight crop circles appeared to be of some unknown design that nobody could figure out what it meant? If such crop circles existed back then, I could see then coming to some conclusion that they were either made by the wind, or magnetic forces, or any of the discussed otherworldly reasons for them. It's possible though, that hoaxers back then could have done such designs, if they knew they were viewable by other earthlings, with the purpose of making it look like we were under observation by the gods...and perhaps this helped to achieve some sort of agenda, on their part. It would be interesting though, to learn more about any of the pre-flight crop circles. Although...didn't Erich Von Danniken feature such works, (that are in Peru?), in Chariots of the Gods? But, the difference there is thatr those large-scale formations were like in the picture of earth things...like, a giant bird. To have crop circles that are like some universal equation, pre-flight era, would be worth some interest though.
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9th December 2003, 11:16 AM	#34
zultr Thinker Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 149	Those kids from MIT who recreated those crop circles that the "experts" said couldn't be done by humans were obviously wrong
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