Coin magic advice?

catbasket · 19th February 2007, 10:00 AM

I have just bought J.B.Bobo's Modern Coin Magic and am looking for some tips on which might be the easier tricks for a novice to learn. I presume learning some classic palming techniques would be the absolute first thing necessary?

Also, are there techniques common to both card and coin tricks? The reason for asking is that I'd like, eventually, to perform some coin tricks for a friend who knows a few card tricks - so I'd prefer to avoid tricks which might use techniques which he may already know from his card tricks.

Dinsdale Piranha · 19th February 2007, 12:14 PM

This website can help answer some of your questions:

http://www.coinvanish.com/

Click on Foundations, then click the link to answer the password. If you don't know the answer, send me a PM. Hope this helps.

firecoins · 19th February 2007, 12:46 PM

yes, learn to classic palm. DO that and you will be able to do dozens of coin tricks.

To learn legit tricks, pick up a dvd of David Roth doing basic to intermediate coin magic.

Brown · 19th February 2007, 03:23 PM

Let me recommend Michael Ammar's three videos on money magic. Ammar includes some tricks that have some fairly advanced handling, as well as some that require a little practice but are not all that difficult and are well-suited for a novice.

Ammar does tricks with coins and bills. One of his bill tricks (on Volume 3) is a favorite of Teller. Yes, that Teller! It's a trick Teller performed on "While You Were Out" and on the recent Penn & Teller NBC special.

Ammar also has a video specially devoted to coin effects, and it is pretty good, too. It is one thing to read about a move in Bobo, and it is another thing to have it shown to you.

Dinsdale Piranha · 19th February 2007, 04:35 PM

You may also want to consider Dr. Michael Rubinstein's Encyclopedia of Coin Sleights DVD's. There are three volumes:

http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.p...oducts_id=1422

Al Schneider has a book geared toward beginners:

http://www.worldmagiccenter.com/salesb/desfast.htm

firecoins · 19th February 2007, 05:18 PM

David Willamsom has some excellent coin magic on his dvds but its a mix of card and coin.

catbasket · 20th February 2007, 02:31 AM

Thanks folks.

Looks like there's some excellent learning aids there - I spent a good hour last night browsing coinvanish.com ... and with the unnatural strength of the GBP now is a great time to be buying dvds priced in dollars!

Dinsdale Piranha · 20th February 2007, 03:29 PM

Here's a new DVD on the classic palm you may consider:

http://themagicbakery.com/index.php?...red&prevstart=

firecoins · 20th February 2007, 05:26 PM

I like Roth's basic DVD's better. ANyway its in Bobo's. Get some tricks on DVD.

NeilC · 21st February 2007, 05:10 AM

I find learning tricks from Bobo to be really uninspiring and difficult. The Royal Road to Coin Magic it ain't.

I'd also recommend getting some vids like Ammar to learn from. He has a complete into to coin magic DVD which is a good start.

The easist but effective coin tricks I know are in Magic from Maui by Carl Andrews. There is an ungimmicked "Hopping Half" effect - dead easy. And there is a gimmicked "Coins Across" again dead easy but very effective.

I also like Gary Ouelett's "Silver Passage" which is a coins through table that is elegantly arranged to make it simple and deceptive. I think this is a great manuscript to get your hands on because you get taught some simple sleights that are very useful. I use the basic false transfer in this routine as my default vanish.

firecoins · 21st February 2007, 09:53 AM

I really like Roth's coins across with 1 ahead principle. O f course you need to classic palm.

Bob Klase · 22nd February 2007, 01:41 PM

I really like Garrett Thomas' coins across (Imagination Coins). But I like most of his stuff, particularly his thinking and theories about magic in general.

Dinsdale Piranha · 22nd February 2007, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Dinsdale Piranha

Here's a new DVD on the classic palm you may consider:

http://themagicbakery.com/index.php?...red&prevstart=

Review here:

http://www.online-visions.com/reviews/0702classic.html

19th February 2007, 10:00 AM	#1
catbasket atheist godfather Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The naughty step Posts: 1,484	Coin magic advice? I have just bought J.B.Bobo's Modern Coin Magic and am looking for some tips on which might be the easier tricks for a novice to learn. I presume learning some classic palming techniques would be the absolute first thing necessary? Also, are there techniques common to both card and coin tricks? The reason for asking is that I'd like, eventually, to perform some coin tricks for a friend who knows a few card tricks - so I'd prefer to avoid tricks which might use techniques which he may already know from his card tricks.
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19th February 2007, 12:14 PM	#2
Dinsdale Piranha A cruel man, but fair. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In the conversation pit. Posts: 842	This website can help answer some of your questions: http://www.coinvanish.com/ Click on Foundations, then click the link to answer the password. If you don't know the answer, send me a PM. Hope this helps.
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19th February 2007, 12:46 PM	#3
firecoins Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 3,065	yes, learn to classic palm. DO that and you will be able to do dozens of coin tricks. To learn legit tricks, pick up a dvd of David Roth doing basic to intermediate coin magic.
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19th February 2007, 03:23 PM	#4
Brown Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Twin Cities, Canada Posts: 9,119	Let me recommend Michael Ammar's three videos on money magic. Ammar includes some tricks that have some fairly advanced handling, as well as some that require a little practice but are not all that difficult and are well-suited for a novice. Ammar does tricks with coins and bills. One of his bill tricks (on Volume 3) is a favorite of Teller. Yes, that Teller! It's a trick Teller performed on "While You Were Out" and on the recent Penn & Teller NBC special. Ammar also has a video specially devoted to coin effects, and it is pretty good, too. It is one thing to read about a move in Bobo, and it is another thing to have it shown to you.
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19th February 2007, 04:35 PM	#5
Dinsdale Piranha A cruel man, but fair. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In the conversation pit. Posts: 842	You may also want to consider Dr. Michael Rubinstein's Encyclopedia of Coin Sleights DVD's. There are three volumes: http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.p...oducts_id=1422 Al Schneider has a book geared toward beginners: http://www.worldmagiccenter.com/salesb/desfast.htm
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19th February 2007, 05:18 PM	#6
firecoins Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 3,065	David Willamsom has some excellent coin magic on his dvds but its a mix of card and coin.
	__________________ NY Paramedic, skeptic, 9/11/01 Reality-ist. I am both right wing nut and left wing lunatic. Deal with it.

20th February 2007, 02:31 AM	#7
catbasket atheist godfather Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The naughty step Posts: 1,484	Thanks folks. Looks like there's some excellent learning aids there - I spent a good hour last night browsing coinvanish.com ... and with the unnatural strength of the GBP now is a great time to be buying dvds priced in dollars!
	__________________ Mathew 13:13 Therefore I speak to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

20th February 2007, 03:29 PM	#8
Dinsdale Piranha A cruel man, but fair. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In the conversation pit. Posts: 842	Here's a new DVD on the classic palm you may consider: http://themagicbakery.com/index.php?...red&prevstart=
	__________________ "Don't hit me with them negative waves this early in the morning." Oddball from Kelly's Heroes. "I almost had a psychic girlfriend, but she left me before we met." Steven Wright

20th February 2007, 05:26 PM	#9
firecoins Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 3,065	I like Roth's basic DVD's better. ANyway its in Bobo's. Get some tricks on DVD.
	__________________ NY Paramedic, skeptic, 9/11/01 Reality-ist. I am both right wing nut and left wing lunatic. Deal with it.

21st February 2007, 05:10 AM	#10
NeilC Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,085	I find learning tricks from Bobo to be really uninspiring and difficult. The Royal Road to Coin Magic it ain't. I'd also recommend getting some vids like Ammar to learn from. He has a complete into to coin magic DVD which is a good start. The easist but effective coin tricks I know are in Magic from Maui by Carl Andrews. There is an ungimmicked "Hopping Half" effect - dead easy. And there is a gimmicked "Coins Across" again dead easy but very effective. I also like Gary Ouelett's "Silver Passage" which is a coins through table that is elegantly arranged to make it simple and deceptive. I think this is a great manuscript to get your hands on because you get taught some simple sleights that are very useful. I use the basic false transfer in this routine as my default vanish.

21st February 2007, 09:53 AM	#11
firecoins Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 3,065	I really like Roth's coins across with 1 ahead principle. O f course you need to classic palm.
	__________________ NY Paramedic, skeptic, 9/11/01 Reality-ist. I am both right wing nut and left wing lunatic. Deal with it.

22nd February 2007, 01:41 PM	#12
Bob Klase Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 2,445	I really like Garrett Thomas' coins across (Imagination Coins). But I like most of his stuff, particularly his thinking and theories about magic in general.

22nd February 2007, 02:59 PM	#13
Dinsdale Piranha A cruel man, but fair. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In the conversation pit. Posts: 842	Originally Posted by Dinsdale Piranha Here's a new DVD on the classic palm you may consider: http://themagicbakery.com/index.php?...red&prevstart= Review here: http://www.online-visions.com/reviews/0702classic.html
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