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Old 5th March 2007, 06:57 PM   #1
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Time to play: Guess what this is!

And why is it important.

Here's the picture. Let's hear from some troothers!

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Old 6th March 2007, 01:48 AM   #2
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Is it pulverised concrete?
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Old 6th March 2007, 02:02 AM   #4
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The contents of killklowns head.............

.....magnified?
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Plane bits from the pentagon?
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Old 6th March 2007, 02:51 AM   #6
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I know they recovered wing tip fragments from the Pentagon suggesting that the tip of the wing clipped the ground just as it hit.

Could those be the fragments?
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Old 6th March 2007, 03:49 AM   #7
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Well, they are fragments...
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Old 6th March 2007, 03:52 AM   #8
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If you look at it long enough and squint your left eye while sticking a fork into your right eye while hopping up and down on one foot and clucking like a hen, you can clearly see...

3" rebar on 4' centers
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Old 6th March 2007, 03:56 AM   #9
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I dont like the look of that pink thing at the bottom.
Are they all metallic?
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Old 6th March 2007, 03:58 AM   #10
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oh, its metal alright.

Hint: It was not found at ground zero, but is relevant to 911 by its absence.
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Old 6th March 2007, 04:00 AM   #11
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I'm guessing it's the remains of a plane crash. But not one that occurred on 9/11?
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Old 6th March 2007, 04:01 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
oh, its metal alright.

Hint: It was not found at ground zero, but is relevant to 911 by its absence.
Black boxes?
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Remains of demolition charges?
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Pieces of the luggage of which of course there was none at any of the crashes. so if I am correct it must have been planted.
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Old 6th March 2007, 04:18 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
oh, its metal alright.

Hint: It was not found at ground zero, but is relevant to 911 by its absence.
It's the woowoo theory, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
oh, its metal alright.

Hint: It was not found at ground zero, but is relevant to 911 by its absence.
Something to do with demolition or a missile?
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Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
Remains of demolition charges?
Ding!

They are strips of copper used to brace cutting charges. These were all over the recent implosion of Philadelphia's civic center.

The copper is exactly the color shown. Pink, purple, and all. These strips were everywhere, covered by the plywood boxes that covered the charges, as well as scraps of cloth put over the charges. Oh, and did I mention the huge lengths of burnt detcord?

This is the stuff demoltion experts say would have been present had CD been used.
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
Ding!

They are strips of copper used to brace cutting charges. These were all over the recent implosion of Philadelphia's civic center.

The copper is exactly the color shown. Pink, purple, and all. These strips were everywhere, covered by the plywood boxes that covered the charges, as well as scraps of cloth put over the charges. Oh, and did I mention the huge lengths of burnt detcord?

This is the stuff demoltion experts say would have been present had CD been used.
I almost knew it!
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
Ding!

This is the stuff demoltion experts say would have been present had CD been used.
Well, yea, we know that, but most CTs simply waive their hands and mumble something about super secret high-tech instant beam severing substances that don't leave any residue.
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Originally Posted by twinstead View Post
Well, yea, we know that, but most CTs simply waive their hands and mumble something about super secret high-tech instant beam severing substances that don't leave any residue.
Meaning: A Wizard did it.
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Well, yea, we know that, but most CTs simply waive their hands and mumble something about super secret high-tech instant beam severing substances that don't leave any residue.
Actually I've heard at least one CTer put forward a theory that additional charges were used to destroy the detonators and other evidence of the main charges...

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Actually I've heard at least one CTer put forward a theory that additional charges were used to destroy the detonators and other evidence of the main charges.
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And charges on the secondary charges to destroy evidence of those.

Don't you see? It's charges all the way down.
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That's like the theory that WTC 7 had to be destroyed because it housed the control center for the destruction of WTC 1/2 ...

CT-theories have the same striking explanatory power as ID.
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
And why is it important.

Here's the picture. Let's hear from some troothers!
It's proof of controlled demolition. I don't know what it is, but it definitely proves CD. Tell me what it is and where you found it, give me a couple of minutes, and then I'll tell you why it proves CD.

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That is proof of thermite!
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That's it! A colony of thermites destroyed the WTC!!!
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That is proof of thermite!
Of course it proves thermite, because if they had used explosives, we would have found these things. Since we know it was CD, they must, therefore, have used thermite!

It's scientific!
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Most of the pieces look like the blade from my lawnmower. You mean my mower was used to bring down WTC7?
No wonder I couldn't find it in the garage!
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But Willie Rodriguez is making a living out of touring the world telling everybody about explosions in the basement.
Does thermite make big explosions?
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
If you look at it long enough and squint your left eye while sticking a fork into your right eye while hopping up and down on one foot and clucking like a hen, you can clearly see...

3" rebar on 4' centers
Muhahahahahahahahahahaha!
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If there was a tail section protruding out of the ground in that picture, I would finally be convinced it was flight 93 that crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
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I didn't guess it, but I can guess why they use copper. 'Cause it doesn't make sparks, striking steel.

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That is proof of thermite!
Pssh. Nanothermite!
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That's like the theory that WTC 7 had to be destroyed because it housed the control center for the destruction of WTC 1/2 ...

CT-theories have the same striking explanatory power as ID.
After watching 2 planes hit #1 & #2 who would look into WTC #7 for evidence of a control center?
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So you're saying the bombs in the WTC blew those copper strips all the way to Philly?

Thankyou.[/cf]
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More fun photos from the demolition site:



As my friend who was on site states:

"The one shows the plasma deposited copper from cutting
charges placed opposite each other on the sides of the
beam. You can see the smoother, irregular melted look
of what oxy-acetylene torch cut steel looks like in
comparison to the cutting charge a the ends of the
cut."



He continues:

"This is what the plywood (3/4") sheathing covering the
charges looks like, complete with a copper fragment of
the charge protruding through it. The burnt spots are
from the ends of the charge where the explosive is
exposed. it shows just how contained the explosive is,
no mound of toothpicks here, even though the blast
blew the panel off the box. "

Plywood cover boxes and burnt detecord are all over the site.
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Incidently, with regards to the first picture in my OP. That is the actual color of the copper having been exposed to the explosion. It is not the result of bad photo color work or JPG compression. It really is purple and pink(-ish).
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I actually thought the original picture was dead electric eels, where their batteries leaked all over and discolored 'em. 'specially that one on the middle left, the one that looks like a sperm whale. Maybe that one was a sperm whale fetus?

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