The PentaCon's Success

John Blonn · 6th March 2007, 07:25 PM

A new poll at LCF reveals that 67.5% of those polled (27/40) believe that the plane flew south of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon. Twenty percent (8/40) believe the PentaCon's conclusions. 3/40 belive the plane flew north of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (!?). And 2 believe "other."

So what has the film accomplished?

By forcing the LCers to acknowledge the presence of a plane that day, whether on the north or south side of the Citgo, the PentaCon has single-handedly wiped out all thoughts about Global Hawks, missiles, and other assorted nonsense.

Bravo, Lyte and Merc! You have certainly converted the masses to the truth!

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...#entry12524879

beachnut · 6th March 2007, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by John Blonn

A new poll at LCF reveals that 67.5% of those polled (27/40) believe that the plane flew south of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon. Twenty percent (8/40) believe the PentaCon's conclusions. 3/40 belive the plane flew north of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (!?). And 2 believe "other."

So what has the film accomplished?

By forcing the LCers to acknowledge the presence of a plane that day, whether on the north or south side of the Citgo, the PentaCon has single-handedly wiped out all thoughts about Global Hawks, missiles, and other assorted nonsense.

Bravo, Lyte and Merc! You have certainly converted the masses to the truth!

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...#entry12524879

I lied. I was laughing too hard and hit the wrong button.

http://www.captainsherlock.com/

I went to this place and found two more nuts I have not see before. New idiots.

Brainster · 6th March 2007, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by beachnut

I lied. I was laughing too hard and hit the wrong button.

http://www.captainsherlock.com/

I went to this place and found two more nuts I have not see before. New idiots.

Yeah, he popped onto my radar screen earlier today, but I hadn't see the Captain Sherlock site before. He's suing Northwest for retirement on the basis that Boeing has installed secret bombs that can blow up their planes if needed.

beachnut · 6th March 2007, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Yeah, he popped onto my radar screen earlier today, but I hadn't see the Captain Sherlock site before. He's suing Northwest for retirement on the basis that Boeing has installed secret bombs that can blow up their planes if needed.

Will JDX call him, tape him, and join him up? Will the latest nut case add to JDX's expert list? Bob Bowman will have more company at his level of insanity.

Are LCF loyalist able to see extra stupid nuts? Or are secret non truthers over at LCF? (both?)

28th Kingdumb posts in the sceptic area; does he understand anything?

Coritani · 6th March 2007, 09:24 PM

Pentacon: possible Grammy award nomination for best Comedy?

gumboot · 6th March 2007, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Coritani

Pentacon: possible Grammy award nomination for best Comedy?

It would have to be an Emmy or an Oscar.

-Gumboot

Brainache · 6th March 2007, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by gumboot

It would have to be an Emmy or an Oscar.

-Gumboot

And unfortunately it is let down by its woeful production values. The only true thing Lyte Trip ever said was that he was no professional.

Coritani · 6th March 2007, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by gumboot

It would have to be an Emmy or an Oscar.

-Gumboot

True.

But, when you remember that this is about a real event, where real people died, the humor evaporates.

tacodaemon · 7th March 2007, 05:13 AM

The PentaCon video has become so popular on LCF that some other woowoo posted whining that there were too many PentaCon threads and not enough threads discussing his own pet theory, and then Merc started gloating that people care more about his awesome PentaCon than whatever the other guy was on about. Now there's a way to prove the validity of your claims.

edit: I can't seem to find the post I'm discussing above, but a look through the LCF Pentagon subforum does show an endless pile of PentaCon threads. I think it might be more popular than Do-Over Dylan's collections of shirtless Bermas videos now.

tacodaemon · 7th March 2007, 05:34 AM

Holy crow, the Pentagon-theory war between Merc and Pickering is hilarious. I'd like to see a tag-team rasslin' match pitting Merc and Haupt against Pickering and Jamieson.

JAStewart · 7th March 2007, 07:00 AM

Wish I could still access LCForums. Just for comedy value.

Panoply_Prefect · 7th March 2007, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by tacodaemon

Holy crow, the Pentagon-theory war between Merc and Pickering is hilarious. I'd like to see a tag-team rasslin' match pitting Merc and Haupt against Pickering and Jamieson.

"Citizen Merc" is doing the standard CT strategy:

Originally Posted by Russel@LCF

The question is - do you believe I am a government agent and was involved in the alteration and release of the Citgo video to sabatoge your work?

Yes or no?

Originally Posted by Merc@LCF

You behavior and actions indicate to me this is a possibility.

But I do not know for sure one way or the other.

"Just asking questions"... Never actually say anything that would force you to stand by your allegations...

Cowards.

EDIT: Oh, and its now 78.67% (59 votes) for South of Citgo/Hit Pentagon

Oh, and Lyte apparently think LC is Jref2:

Originally Posted by Lyte@LCF

A poll on this forum teaming with Russell's jref minions is worthless.

/S

apathoid · 7th March 2007, 09:52 AM

Its a runaway now..

It flew North of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (100% behind The PentaCon) [ 9 ] [12.00%]
It flew South of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (0% behind TPC) [ 59 ] [78.67%]
It flew North of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [ 4 ] [5.33%]
It flew South of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [ 0 ] [0.00%]
None of these options/I don't know [ 3 ] [4.00%]

Lyte's response?

Quote:

No it means this board is teaming with jref'ers.
....
Don't hide behind this anonymous poll that was infiltrated by jref'ers.

Merc's response?

Quote:

Total operation here huh?
PM all your other Jref buddies and tell them to tell one person huh?.

CurtC · 7th March 2007, 09:56 AM

"Teaming with" JREFers would mean that the boards are in cooperation, no?

Panoply_Prefect · 7th March 2007, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by apathoid

Its a runaway now..

It flew North of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (100% behind The PentaCon) [ 9 ] [12.00%]
It flew South of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (0% behind TPC) [ 59 ] [78.67%]
It flew North of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [ 4 ] [5.33%]
It flew South of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [ 0 ] [0.00%]
None of these options/I don't know [ 3 ] [4.00%]

Lyte's response?

Merc's response?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...4f61c3b197.gif

I guess his explanation of the fact that the poll isn't really going his way is that there are only 9 real "truthers" at LCF, rest are Disinfo Jref minions.

Cl1mh4224rd · 7th March 2007, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by apathoid

Lyte's response?

Merc's response?

*sets up a lamp and makes shadow figures with his hands*

Dance, puppets! Dance!

Regnad Kcin · 7th March 2007, 10:05 AM

Dear Merc and Lyte:

Forget JREF. Better yet, why not show us doubters (wherever we may roam) of the superiority of your, what was it, 100% irrefutable* evidence? Do what you said you were going to: assault the barricades of the major media outlets as well as law enforcement agencies with your findings.

Or I guess you could go on for years and years just bleating in your barnyard pen.

*Or whatever similar boast was issued over and over in the months preceeding your release.

Panoply_Prefect · 7th March 2007, 10:12 AM

One thing I havent quiet understood, what is the significance of the two different paths (north/south CITGO)?

Cheers,
S

jhunter1163 · 7th March 2007, 10:18 AM

Supposedly, if the plane flew south of the Citgo, the path of damage inside the Pentagon would be different from what is observed (different approach angle). North of the Citgo supposedly proves that the observed damage was caused by preplanted explosives, not by a plane impact.

Or something. Reading that stuff makes my brain hurt.

Minadin · 7th March 2007, 10:28 AM

Not the damage inside the pentagon, rather the light poles and taxi cab which were damage outside along the flight path.

Their claim seems to be that if the plane flew north of the citgo then it couldn't have damaged the poles / cab . . . and therefore that damage was planted / staged somehow. I still can't figure out how exactly that translates into the plane flying over instead of hitting.

Panoply_Prefect · 7th March 2007, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

Supposedly, if the plane flew south of the Citgo, the path of damage inside the Pentagon would be different from what is observed (different approach angle). North of the Citgo supposedly proves that the observed damage was caused by preplanted explosives, not by a plane impact.

Or something. Reading that stuff makes my brain hurt.

Ahhhh... I actually hadn't heard about the pre-planted explosives stuff, I thought they were going for a "missile-attack" scenario. Would the approach angle really differ so much it would make significant difference when it comes to damage to the building?

/S

jhunter1163 · 7th March 2007, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Minadin

Not the damage inside the pentagon, rather the light poles and taxi cab which were damage outside along the flight path.

Their claim seems to be that if the plane flew north of the citgo then it couldn't have damaged the poles / cab . . . and therefore that damage was planted / staged somehow. I still can't figure out how exactly that translates into the plane flying over instead of hitting.

You're right, Minadin, but I think they claim both (hence their use of the damage plot inside the Pentagon on their homepage).

Either way, it's nonsense.

Panoply_Prefect · 7th March 2007, 10:48 AM

Oh, and this thread got me browsing both LCF and PFTF and I found this thread from feb, 10:

Originally Posted by Merc@PFTF

So let's see, we've got the Citgo Video, Doubletree video, Mike Walters response, new Lloyd interview.

Interesting timing.

Is Merc implying that The Great Conspiracy is planting more false witnesses and evidence in reply to the ever-growing force of the Truther-movement? (Oh, and the article he is referring to was from sept, 12 last year. Not that "new")

Cheers,
SLOB

Oliver · 7th March 2007, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

You're right, Minadin, but I think they claim both (hence their use of the damage plot inside the Pentagon on their homepage).

Either way, it's nonsense.

[lytemode] "We have earthshattering evidence!" [/lytemode]

John Blonn · 7th March 2007, 12:28 PM

What I love about this is that now the majority of the respondents on the board believe that a plane hit the Pentagon.* Perhaps Lyte and Merc are COINTELPRO?

* - Obviously this isn't a scientific poll so we don't know who's responding. But still...

CurtC · 7th March 2007, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Minadin

Not the damage inside the pentagon, rather the light poles and taxi cab which were damage outside along the flight path.
...
I still can't figure out how exactly that translates into the plane flying over instead of hitting.

Actually, they're saying both. If the plane flew North of the Citgo, then there's no way it could have damaged the light poles, so they had to have been staged. And if the plane came from that direction instead of the more southerly one, the interior pattern of damage in the Pentagon could not have happened, because all the damage points back at where the light poles are. Therefore, the plane did not hit the Pentagon, therefore it flew over.

scissorhands · 7th March 2007, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by CurtC

Actually, they're saying both. If the plane flew North of the Citgo, then there's no way it could have damaged the light poles, so they had to have been staged. And if the plane came from that direction instead of the more southerly one, the interior pattern of damage in the Pentagon could not have happened, because all the damage points back at where the light poles are. Therefore, the plane did not hit the Pentagon, therefore it flew over.

Thats it in a nutshell.
Its obvious when you think outside the box like Merc and Lyte.

DavidJames · 7th March 2007, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by scissorhands

Thats it in a nutshell.
Its obvious when you think outside the brain like Merc and Lyte.

fixed that for you

LashL · 7th March 2007, 04:50 PM

And with the results of the poll at:

Quote:

It flew North of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (100% behind The PentaCon) [9 votes] [10.23%]

It flew South of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (0% behind TPC) [70 votes] [79.55%]

It flew North of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [4 votes] [4.55%]

It flew South of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [1 vote] [1.14%]

None of these options/I don't know [4 votes] [4.55%]

Total Votes: 88

IVXX invokes the mercy rule and locks the thread.

Quote:

Another thread that's ran it's course. Locked.

Merc and Lyte can whine all they want, but the fact that they could not garner the support of more than 7 troofers to their cause on a troofer forum is very, very telling. (They got 9 votes but obviously at least 2 of those votes were their own.)

One would think that they would get the picture - which is that not even the vast majority of troofers believe their ridiculous theories or are persuaded by their crappy little video.

John Blonn · 7th March 2007, 05:11 PM

After all the BS Lyte spouted on this forum, I'm probably not the only one partaking in a bit of schadenfreude.

PhantomWolf · 7th March 2007, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Oliver

[lytemode] "We have earthshattering evidence!" [/lytemode]

[marvin the martian mode]Where's the Kaboom? there was supposed to be an Earth shattering Kaboom![/marvin the martian mode]

uk_dave · 8th March 2007, 12:29 AM

Looks like Balsamo has been banned by LCF.

Don't think he'll be getting a badge though.....

6th March 2007, 07:25 PM	#1
John Blonn Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 394	The PentaCon's Success A new poll at LCF reveals that 67.5% of those polled (27/40) believe that the plane flew south of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon. Twenty percent (8/40) believe the PentaCon's conclusions. 3/40 belive the plane flew north of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (!?). And 2 believe "other." So what has the film accomplished? By forcing the LCers to acknowledge the presence of a plane that day, whether on the north or south side of the Citgo, the PentaCon has single-handedly wiped out all thoughts about Global Hawks, missiles, and other assorted nonsense. Bravo, Lyte and Merc! You have certainly converted the masses to the truth! http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...#entry12524879

6th March 2007, 07:55 PM	#3
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,408	Originally Posted by beachnut I lied. I was laughing too hard and hit the wrong button. http://www.captainsherlock.com/ I went to this place and found two more nuts I have not see before. New idiots. Yeah, he popped onto my radar screen earlier today, but I hadn't see the Captain Sherlock site before. He's suing Northwest for retirement on the basis that Boeing has installed secret bombs that can blow up their planes if needed.
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6th March 2007, 09:24 PM	#5
Coritani Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 319	Pentacon: possible Grammy award nomination for best Comedy?
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6th March 2007, 10:18 PM	#6
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6th March 2007, 10:41 PM	#7
Brainache Nasty Brutish and Tall Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Knob Hill. Posts: 9,079	Originally Posted by gumboot It would have to be an Emmy or an Oscar. -Gumboot And unfortunately it is let down by its woeful production values. The only true thing Lyte Trip ever said was that he was no professional.
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6th March 2007, 07:29 PM	#2
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,881	Originally Posted by John Blonn A new poll at LCF reveals that 67.5% of those polled (27/40) believe that the plane flew south of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon. Twenty percent (8/40) believe the PentaCon's conclusions. 3/40 belive the plane flew north of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (!?). And 2 believe "other." So what has the film accomplished? By forcing the LCers to acknowledge the presence of a plane that day, whether on the north or south side of the Citgo, the PentaCon has single-handedly wiped out all thoughts about Global Hawks, missiles, and other assorted nonsense. Bravo, Lyte and Merc! You have certainly converted the masses to the truth! http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...#entry12524879 I lied. I was laughing too hard and hit the wrong button. http://www.captainsherlock.com/ I went to this place and found two more nuts I have not see before. New idiots.

6th March 2007, 08:04 PM	#4
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,881	Originally Posted by Brainster Yeah, he popped onto my radar screen earlier today, but I hadn't see the Captain Sherlock site before. He's suing Northwest for retirement on the basis that Boeing has installed secret bombs that can blow up their planes if needed. Will JDX call him, tape him, and join him up? Will the latest nut case add to JDX's expert list? Bob Bowman will have more company at his level of insanity. Are LCF loyalist able to see extra stupid nuts? Or are secret non truthers over at LCF? (both?) 28th Kingdumb posts in the sceptic area; does he understand anything?

6th March 2007, 11:02 PM	#8
Coritani Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 319	Originally Posted by gumboot It would have to be an Emmy or an Oscar. -Gumboot True. But, when you remember that this is about a real event, where real people died, the humor evaporates.
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7th March 2007, 05:13 AM	#9
tacodaemon Muse Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DC Posts: 571	The PentaCon video has become so popular on LCF that some other woowoo posted whining that there were too many PentaCon threads and not enough threads discussing his own pet theory, and then Merc started gloating that people care more about his awesome PentaCon than whatever the other guy was on about. Now there's a way to prove the validity of your claims. edit: I can't seem to find the post I'm discussing above, but a look through the LCF Pentagon subforum does show an endless pile of PentaCon threads. I think it might be more popular than Do-Over Dylan's collections of shirtless Bermas videos now.
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7th March 2007, 05:34 AM	#10
tacodaemon Muse Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DC Posts: 571	Holy crow, the Pentagon-theory war between Merc and Pickering is hilarious. I'd like to see a tag-team rasslin' match pitting Merc and Haupt against Pickering and Jamieson.
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7th March 2007, 07:00 AM	#11
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7th March 2007, 08:13 AM	#12
Panoply_Prefect Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,075	Originally Posted by tacodaemon Holy crow, the Pentagon-theory war between Merc and Pickering is hilarious. I'd like to see a tag-team rasslin' match pitting Merc and Haupt against Pickering and Jamieson. "Citizen Merc" is doing the standard CT strategy: Originally Posted by Russel@LCF The question is - do you believe I am a government agent and was involved in the alteration and release of the Citgo video to sabatoge your work? Yes or no? Originally Posted by Merc@LCF You behavior and actions indicate to me this is a possibility. But I do not know for sure one way or the other. "Just asking questions"... Never actually say anything that would force you to stand by your allegations... Cowards. EDIT: Oh, and its now 78.67% (59 votes) for South of Citgo/Hit Pentagon Oh, and Lyte apparently think LC is Jref2: Originally Posted by Lyte@LCF A poll on this forum teaming with Russell's jref minions is worthless. /S
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7th March 2007, 09:52 AM	#13
apathoid Government Loyalist Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Virgo Supercluster Posts: 2,699	Its a runaway now.. It flew North of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (100% behind The PentaCon) [ 9 ] [12.00%] It flew South of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (0% behind TPC) [ 59 ] [78.67%] It flew North of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [ 4 ] [5.33%] It flew South of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [ 0 ] [0.00%] None of these options/I don't know [ 3 ] [4.00%] Lyte's response? Quote: No it means this board is teaming with jref'ers. .... Don't hide behind this anonymous poll that was infiltrated by jref'ers. Merc's response? Quote: Total operation here huh? PM all your other Jref buddies and tell them to tell one person huh?.
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7th March 2007, 09:56 AM	#14
CurtC Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4,758	"Teaming with" JREFers would mean that the boards are in cooperation, no?
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7th March 2007, 10:02 AM	#15
Panoply_Prefect Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,075	Originally Posted by apathoid Its a runaway now.. It flew North of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (100% behind The PentaCon) [ 9 ] [12.00%] It flew South of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (0% behind TPC) [ 59 ] [78.67%] It flew North of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [ 4 ] [5.33%] It flew South of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [ 0 ] [0.00%] None of these options/I don't know [ 3 ] [4.00%] Lyte's response? Merc's response? http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...4f61c3b197.gif I guess his explanation of the fact that the poll isn't really going his way is that there are only 9 real "truthers" at LCF, rest are Disinfo Jref minions.

7th March 2007, 10:05 AM	#16
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 6,618	Originally Posted by apathoid Lyte's response? Merc's response? sets up a lamp and makes shadow figures with his hands Dance, puppets! Dance!

7th March 2007, 10:05 AM	#17
Regnad Kcin Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The ol' Same place Posts: 6,201	Dear Merc and Lyte: Forget JREF. Better yet, why not show us doubters (wherever we may roam) of the superiority of your, what was it, 100% irrefutable* evidence? Do what you said you were going to: assault the barricades of the major media outlets as well as law enforcement agencies with your findings. Or I guess you could go on for years and years just bleating in your barnyard pen. *Or whatever similar boast was issued over and over in the months preceeding your release.
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7th March 2007, 10:12 AM	#18
Panoply_Prefect Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,075	One thing I havent quiet understood, what is the significance of the two different paths (north/south CITGO)? Cheers, S

7th March 2007, 10:18 AM	#19
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,554	Supposedly, if the plane flew south of the Citgo, the path of damage inside the Pentagon would be different from what is observed (different approach angle). North of the Citgo supposedly proves that the observed damage was caused by preplanted explosives, not by a plane impact. Or something. Reading that stuff makes my brain hurt.
	Last edited by jhunter1163; 7th March 2007 at 10:18 AM. Reason: changed "Pentagon" to "Citgo"

7th March 2007, 10:28 AM	#20
Minadin Hiding his Head in the Sane Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,473	Not the damage inside the pentagon, rather the light poles and taxi cab which were damage outside along the flight path. Their claim seems to be that if the plane flew north of the citgo then it couldn't have damaged the poles / cab . . . and therefore that damage was planted / staged somehow. I still can't figure out how exactly that translates into the plane flying over instead of hitting.
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7th March 2007, 10:29 AM	#21
Panoply_Prefect Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,075	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 Supposedly, if the plane flew south of the Citgo, the path of damage inside the Pentagon would be different from what is observed (different approach angle). North of the Citgo supposedly proves that the observed damage was caused by preplanted explosives, not by a plane impact. Or something. Reading that stuff makes my brain hurt. Ahhhh... I actually hadn't heard about the pre-planted explosives stuff, I thought they were going for a "missile-attack" scenario. Would the approach angle really differ so much it would make significant difference when it comes to damage to the building? /S

7th March 2007, 10:39 AM	#22
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,554	Originally Posted by Minadin Not the damage inside the pentagon, rather the light poles and taxi cab which were damage outside along the flight path. Their claim seems to be that if the plane flew north of the citgo then it couldn't have damaged the poles / cab . . . and therefore that damage was planted / staged somehow. I still can't figure out how exactly that translates into the plane flying over instead of hitting. You're right, Minadin, but I think they claim both (hence their use of the damage plot inside the Pentagon on their homepage). Either way, it's nonsense.

7th March 2007, 10:48 AM	#23
Panoply_Prefect Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,075	Oh, and this thread got me browsing both LCF and PFTF and I found this thread from feb, 10: Originally Posted by Merc@PFTF So let's see, we've got the Citgo Video, Doubletree video, Mike Walters response, new Lloyd interview. Interesting timing. Is Merc implying that The Great Conspiracy is planting more false witnesses and evidence in reply to the ever-growing force of the Truther-movement? (Oh, and the article he is referring to was from sept, 12 last year. Not that "new") Cheers, SLOB
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7th March 2007, 10:54 AM	#24
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 You're right, Minadin, but I think they claim both (hence their use of the damage plot inside the Pentagon on their homepage). Either way, it's nonsense. [lytemode] "We have earthshattering evidence!" [/lytemode]
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7th March 2007, 12:28 PM	#25
John Blonn Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 394	What I love about this is that now the majority of the respondents on the board believe that a plane hit the Pentagon.* Perhaps Lyte and Merc are COINTELPRO? * - Obviously this isn't a scientific poll so we don't know who's responding. But still...

7th March 2007, 12:37 PM	#26
CurtC Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4,758	Originally Posted by Minadin Not the damage inside the pentagon, rather the light poles and taxi cab which were damage outside along the flight path. ... I still can't figure out how exactly that translates into the plane flying over instead of hitting. Actually, they're saying both. If the plane flew North of the Citgo, then there's no way it could have damaged the light poles, so they had to have been staged. And if the plane came from that direction instead of the more southerly one, the interior pattern of damage in the Pentagon could not have happened, because all the damage points back at where the light poles are. Therefore, the plane did not hit the Pentagon, therefore it flew over.
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7th March 2007, 12:48 PM	#27
scissorhands Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,537	Originally Posted by CurtC Actually, they're saying both. If the plane flew North of the Citgo, then there's no way it could have damaged the light poles, so they had to have been staged. And if the plane came from that direction instead of the more southerly one, the interior pattern of damage in the Pentagon could not have happened, because all the damage points back at where the light poles are. Therefore, the plane did not hit the Pentagon, therefore it flew over. Thats it in a nutshell. Its obvious when you think outside the box like Merc and Lyte.

7th March 2007, 01:07 PM	#28
DavidJames Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 7,083	Originally Posted by scissorhands Thats it in a nutshell. Its obvious when you think outside the brain like Merc and Lyte. fixed that for you
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7th March 2007, 04:50 PM	#29
LashL Goddess of Legaltainment™ Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 26,174	And with the results of the poll at: Quote: It flew North of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (100% behind The PentaCon) [9 votes] [10.23%] It flew South of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (0% behind TPC) [70 votes] [79.55%] It flew North of the Citgo and hit the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [4 votes] [4.55%] It flew South of the Citgo and over the Pentagon (50% behind TPC) [1 vote] [1.14%] None of these options/I don't know [4 votes] [4.55%] Total Votes: 88 IVXX invokes the mercy rule and locks the thread. Quote: Another thread that's ran it's course. Locked. Merc and Lyte can whine all they want, but the fact that they could not garner the support of more than 7 troofers to their cause on a troofer forum is very, very telling. (They got 9 votes but obviously at least 2 of those votes were their own.) One would think that they would get the picture - which is that not even the vast majority of troofers believe their ridiculous theories or are persuaded by their crappy little video.

7th March 2007, 05:11 PM	#30
John Blonn Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 394	After all the BS Lyte spouted on this forum, I'm probably not the only one partaking in a bit of schadenfreude.
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7th March 2007, 06:11 PM	#31
PhantomWolf Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lost Deimos Moon Base Posts: 9,891	Originally Posted by Oliver [lytemode] "We have earthshattering evidence!" [/lytemode] [marvin the martian mode]Where's the Kaboom? there was supposed to be an Earth shattering Kaboom![/marvin the martian mode]

8th March 2007, 12:29 AM	#32
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866	Looks like Balsamo has been banned by LCF. Don't think he'll be getting a badge though.....
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