Man pierces Milosevic's grave with pole

subgenius · 11th March 2007, 08:06 AM

Mon Mar 5, 11:49 PM ET

BELGRADE, Serbia - Former President
Slobodan Milosevic's grave has been desecrated by a man who pierced it with a wooden pole in an ancient Balkan ritual to make sure that an evil spirit never returns, his former party said Monday.
The man, whose name is Miroslav Milosevic but who is not related to the ex-Serbian president, said he carried out the "performance" to spite Milosevic admirers who have been preparing to mark the first anniversary of the autocrat's death.

Milosevic's Socialist Party of Serbia, which ruled Serbia with a strong fist in the 1990s, condemned the "vandalism" committed Saturday by the Milosevic-era dissident.

He slightly damaged the grave in the eastern town of Pozarevac by inserting a 3-foot-long pole into the grave, aiming at what he said was the late president's heart.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070306/...osevic_s_grave

Couldn't hurt to be sure....

Beerina · 11th March 2007, 08:50 AM

Is it even possible to "desecrate" his grave?

Would exposing his corpse, tearing off his head, and sh****** down his neck even desecrate it?

Dedicated · 11th March 2007, 09:09 AM

As someone who escaped the war in the Former Yugoslavia, all I can say is, rot in hell mofo!!

Ryokan · 11th March 2007, 09:35 AM

If only they'd done it 15 years ago.

The Fool · 11th March 2007, 04:29 PM

I wonder if it was like in the Vampire movies....Did he sit up and let out a last bloodcurdling scream??

Zep · 11th March 2007, 04:40 PM

Sadly, this seems to represent some sort of clinging to silly superstitions that has more serious effects. For a start, it brings unwanted attention to him again when it is least required.

Surely Milosevic, the ex-tyrant, is still dead and rotting in his box one year on. So we should all take heart that such is the case, and not resort to semi-religious fear in place of more rational thought on the matter.

Schneibster · 11th March 2007, 04:47 PM

Seemed more like a political statement than a superstitious one to me.

Schneibster · 11th March 2007, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Fool

I wonder if it was like in the Vampire movies....Did he sit up and let out a last bloodcurdling scream??

Hopefully no one digs him up and pours blood into the coffin to bring him back to life.

Zep · 11th March 2007, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Schneibster

Seemed more like a political statement than a superstitious one to me.

True, but driven by obvious superstition.

Khalid01 · 11th March 2007, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Beerina

Is it even possible to "desecrate" his grave?

Would exposing his corpse, tearing off his head, and sh****** down his neck even desecrate it?

For someone with Duke Nukem as his avatar that is, of course, standard procedure before the real desecration even begins.

Originally Posted by The Fool

I wonder if it was like in the Vampire movies....Did he sit up and let out a last bloodcurdling scream??

Futurama fans know that he would sit up abruptly, yell "blah!", and then explode in his coffin, were he a vampire.

Charlie Monoxide · 11th March 2007, 08:23 PM

Abuse of dead people is very cathartic for living people ....

Charlie (use my butt as a bicycle stand when dead) Monoxide

Checkmite · 11th March 2007, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Zep

True, but driven by obvious superstition.

I disagree. This person is certainly aware of the superstition which gave rise to this particular "ritual"; but I think he simply exploited it as just a creative way of calling Slobodon "evil". I don't think this guy, or anyone else, is actually "afraid" of Milosevic's "ghost" or anything like that.

Mephisto · 11th March 2007, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Joshua Korosi

I disagree. This person is certainly aware of the superstition which gave rise to this particular "ritual"; but I think he simply exploited it as just a creative way of calling Slobodon "evil". I don't think this guy, or anyone else, is actually "afraid" of Milosevic's "ghost" or anything like that.

. . . I think you're right or they would have dug him up, cut off his head and stuffed the mouth with garlic. Come to think of it, that would have been pretty cool too.

Achán hiNidráne · 11th March 2007, 10:10 PM

INS reporter Carl Kolchak was unavailable for comment.

Checkmite · 11th March 2007, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

. . . I think you're right or they would have dug him up, cut off his head and stuffed the mouth with garlic. Come to think of it, that would have been pretty cool too.

Now you're talkin'...

TragicMonkey · 12th March 2007, 02:42 AM

Am I the only one thinking this event would make a lovely commemorative snowglobe? I can see it now, on QVC: "The 'Milosevic Corpse-Pole 2007 Snowglobe' will be a lovely keepsake which will become a treasured heirloom. It will look great on your Christmas tree. See the fine workmanship and the exquisite detail! Look at that disturbed grave earth! And when you wind it up, black blood gushes up from the rotting corpse beneath, while chimes play 'Caribbean Queen' by Billy Ocean. Order yours today!"

Mephisto · 12th March 2007, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Am I the only one thinking this event would make a lovely commemorative snowglobe? I can see it now, on QVC: "The 'Milosevic Corpse-Pole 2007 Snowglobe' will be a lovely keepsake which will become a treasured heirloom. It will look great on your Christmas tree. See the fine workmanship and the exquisite detail! Look at that disturbed grave earth! And when you wind it up, black blood gushes up from the rotting corpse beneath, while chimes play 'Caribbean Queen' by Billy Ocean. Order yours today!"

Should I be worried that I also thought it would make a lovely commemorative snowglobe?

My choice for the song was "Ding, Dong the witch is dead."

Tanja · 12th March 2007, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Dedicated

As someone who escaped the war in the Former Yugoslavia, all I can say is, rot in hell mofo!!

Dobrodosao u JREF Forum, Dedicated. Ja sam iz Hrvatske. A ti?

Originally Posted by Joshua Korosi

I disagree. This person is certainly aware of the superstition which gave rise to this particular "ritual"; but I think he simply exploited it as just a creative way of calling Slobodon "evil". I don't think this guy, or anyone else, is actually "afraid" of Milosevic's "ghost" or anything like that.

Thank you for understanding the issue properly, Joshua. So many people misunderstood this stunt, including some of our posters in this thread.

Jaggy Bunnet · 12th March 2007, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

My choice for the song was "Ding, Dong the witch is dead."

Sorry that is already reserved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher

Beerina · 12th March 2007, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Khalid01

For someone with Duke Nukem as his avatar that is, of course, standard procedure before the real desecration even begins.

Hehe, yeah, that did cross my mind as I wrote that. Duke stole it from Dr. Detroit, with Dan Aykroyd, who stole it from god knows whom.

11th March 2007, 08:06 AM	#1
subgenius Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,788	Man pierces Milosevic's grave with pole Mon Mar 5, 11:49 PM ET BELGRADE, Serbia - Former President Slobodan Milosevic's grave has been desecrated by a man who pierced it with a wooden pole in an ancient Balkan ritual to make sure that an evil spirit never returns, his former party said Monday. The man, whose name is Miroslav Milosevic but who is not related to the ex-Serbian president, said he carried out the "performance" to spite Milosevic admirers who have been preparing to mark the first anniversary of the autocrat's death. Milosevic's Socialist Party of Serbia, which ruled Serbia with a strong fist in the 1990s, condemned the "vandalism" committed Saturday by the Milosevic-era dissident. He slightly damaged the grave in the eastern town of Pozarevac by inserting a 3-foot-long pole into the grave, aiming at what he said was the late president's heart. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070306/...osevic_s_grave Couldn't hurt to be sure....
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11th March 2007, 08:50 AM	#2
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Is it even possible to "desecrate" his grave? Would exposing his corpse, tearing off his head, and sh****** down his neck even desecrate it?
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11th March 2007, 09:09 AM	#3
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11th March 2007, 04:29 PM	#5
The Fool Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 11,558	I wonder if it was like in the Vampire movies....Did he sit up and let out a last bloodcurdling scream??
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11th March 2007, 04:40 PM	#6
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	Sadly, this seems to represent some sort of clinging to silly superstitions that has more serious effects. For a start, it brings unwanted attention to him again when it is least required. Surely Milosevic, the ex-tyrant, is still dead and rotting in his box one year on. So we should all take heart that such is the case, and not resort to semi-religious fear in place of more rational thought on the matter.
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11th March 2007, 09:35 AM	#4
Ryokan Insert something funny here Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 8,172	If only they'd done it 15 years ago.

11th March 2007, 04:47 PM	#7
Schneibster Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,966	Seemed more like a political statement than a superstitious one to me.
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11th March 2007, 04:49 PM	#8
Schneibster Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,966	Originally Posted by The Fool I wonder if it was like in the Vampire movies....Did he sit up and let out a last bloodcurdling scream?? Hopefully no one digs him up and pours blood into the coffin to bring him back to life.
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11th March 2007, 07:36 PM	#9
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	Originally Posted by Schneibster Seemed more like a political statement than a superstitious one to me. True, but driven by obvious superstition.
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11th March 2007, 08:17 PM	#10
Khalid01 Thinker Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Long Beach, Irvine, California Posts: 179	Originally Posted by Beerina Is it even possible to "desecrate" his grave? Would exposing his corpse, tearing off his head, and sh**** down his neck even desecrate it? For someone with Duke Nukem as his avatar that is, of course, standard procedure before the real desecration even begins. Originally Posted by The Fool** I wonder if it was like in the Vampire movies....Did he sit up and let out a last bloodcurdling scream?? Futurama fans know that he would sit up abruptly, yell "blah!", and then explode in his coffin, were he a vampire.
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11th March 2007, 08:23 PM	#11
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11th March 2007, 09:48 PM	#12
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Third in line Posts: 14,879	Originally Posted by Zep True, but driven by obvious superstition. I disagree. This person is certainly aware of the superstition which gave rise to this particular "ritual"; but I think he simply exploited it as just a creative way of calling Slobodon "evil". I don't think this guy, or anyone else, is actually "afraid" of Milosevic's "ghost" or anything like that.
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11th March 2007, 09:57 PM	#13
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by Joshua Korosi I disagree. This person is certainly aware of the superstition which gave rise to this particular "ritual"; but I think he simply exploited it as just a creative way of calling Slobodon "evil". I don't think this guy, or anyone else, is actually "afraid" of Milosevic's "ghost" or anything like that. . . . I think you're right or they would have dug him up, cut off his head and stuffed the mouth with garlic. Come to think of it, that would have been pretty cool too.
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11th March 2007, 10:13 PM	#15
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Third in line Posts: 14,879	Originally Posted by Mephisto . . . I think you're right or they would have dug him up, cut off his head and stuffed the mouth with garlic. Come to think of it, that would have been pretty cool too. Now you're talkin'...
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12th March 2007, 02:42 AM	#16
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12th March 2007, 05:58 AM	#17
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Am I the only one thinking this event would make a lovely commemorative snowglobe? I can see it now, on QVC: "The 'Milosevic Corpse-Pole 2007 Snowglobe' will be a lovely keepsake which will become a treasured heirloom. It will look great on your Christmas tree. See the fine workmanship and the exquisite detail! Look at that disturbed grave earth! And when you wind it up, black blood gushes up from the rotting corpse beneath, while chimes play 'Caribbean Queen' by Billy Ocean. Order yours today!" Should I be worried that I also thought it would make a lovely commemorative snowglobe? My choice for the song was "Ding, Dong the witch is dead."
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12th March 2007, 06:05 AM	#18
Tanja Comfortably Numb Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,001	Originally Posted by Dedicated As someone who escaped the war in the Former Yugoslavia, all I can say is, rot in hell mofo!! Dobrodosao u JREF Forum, Dedicated. Ja sam iz Hrvatske. A ti? Originally Posted by Joshua Korosi I disagree. This person is certainly aware of the superstition which gave rise to this particular "ritual"; but I think he simply exploited it as just a creative way of calling Slobodon "evil". I don't think this guy, or anyone else, is actually "afraid" of Milosevic's "ghost" or anything like that. Thank you for understanding the issue properly, Joshua. So many people misunderstood this stunt, including some of our posters in this thread.
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12th March 2007, 06:14 AM	#19
Jaggy Bunnet Philosopher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sunny Leith Posts: 6,147	Originally Posted by Mephisto My choice for the song was "Ding, Dong the witch is dead." Sorry that is already reserved. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher

12th March 2007, 08:00 AM	#20
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Originally Posted by Khalid01 For someone with Duke Nukem as his avatar that is, of course, standard procedure before the real desecration even begins. Hehe, yeah, that did cross my mind as I wrote that. Duke stole it from Dr. Detroit, with Dan Aykroyd, who stole it from god knows whom.
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