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Old 16th March 2007, 07:04 AM   #1
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National 9/11 Debate

Did this event happen? It was supposed to be last week. I don't see any discussion of it here.

http://www.teamliberty.net/id244.html
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It was cancelled.
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It was cancelled.
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It was cancelled.
I find that to be very funny. I think it would be safe to say the entire bowel...I mean truth movement should be canceled. BTW Mark....cancelled has one l
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he is learning to spell Canadian-style! Remember, 90% of Canada's population is bordering the US. Should U,S and A do something and we're on their doorstep
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I find that to be very funny. I think it would be safe to say the entire bowel...I mean truth movement should be canceled. BTW Mark....cancelled has one l
My dictionary shows it spelled both ways.
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he is learning to spell Canadian-style! Remember, 90% of Canada's population is bordering the US. Should U,S and A do something and we're on their doorstep
Gravy is in NYC and here in the US we blame Canada
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My dictionary shows it spelled both ways.
So does the Oxford dictionary but it also says the single l is the US spelling.
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Obviously Gravy is a civilised man.
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Obviously Gravy is a civilised man.
I come from NYC and I wouldn't even begin to call Nyers civilized.
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I come from NYC and I wouldn't even begin to call Nyers civilized.
Then, obviously, Gravy's not from New York!
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Then, obviously, Gravy's not from New York!
It's so obvious...



I feel like Roxdog!!!
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Obviously Gravy is a civilised man.
Perhaps I was in my days as a poetry student. I've gone feral since, as I'm sure the patrons of Farrell's bar will attest tomorrow. Erin Go Bragh!
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It was cancelled.
Do you know why it was cancelled? Were you planning to attend? And debate?
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[pedant mode]

We spell it "cancelled" with two Ls here (above the 49th parallel).

[/pedant mode]

In any event, it is no surprise that the "national debate" was cancelled didn't happen. It was destined to fail from the beginning.
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Old 16th March 2007, 10:57 PM   #16
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[pedant mode]

We spell it "cancelled" with two Ls here (above the 49th parallel).

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In any event, it is no surprise that the "national debate" was cancelled didn't happen. It was destined to fail from the beginning.
Why was it "destined to fail?" Care to elaborate?
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Why was it "destined to fail?" Care to elaborate?

Because the Truth Movement know they're lying.

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It's got 2 Ls in Canada, the UK, Oz, NZ, and South Africa. But American spellings are allowable in Scrabble in the UK, so it's always worth remembering.........
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Why was it "destined to fail?" Care to elaborate?
Ostensibly the purpose of the debate was to pit prominent "truthers" against members of the 9/11 Commisison and NIST. Of course the organizers knew that none of the official group would sign up. They knew that last Summer. Nor were they able to get media panelists on board, beyond a couple of truthers, and they had no moderator. So they changed the date from December to March, as if that would make a difference. During that time the "Scholar" schism happened, with some going ga-ga over Star Wars beams.

I would have participated if they had had a real format, a real panel, a real moderator, and if half the opponents weren't no-planer energy beamists. So, yeah, it was destined to fail. A total joke.
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Weren't you supposed to be debating Uncle Fetzer or someone at some college as well?

What happened to that one?
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I think it would have been a mess. The truthers would have said...

"Isnt that fishy." "Thats pecular." "That doesnt sound right." and feel they were victorious.

The scientists would have listened, shook their heads in frustration, and then simply got up and left.

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Weren't you supposed to be debating Uncle Fetzer or someone at some college as well?

What happened to that one?
He decided it was best if that encounter happened at the national debate, then suggested moving that debate to my alma mater. I suggest holding the national debate on the Moon and renaming it the Intergalactic Truth Debate. By doing so we'd be able to dismiss several other conspiracy theories (U.S. military base on dark side of Moon, Apollo landings didn't happen, Moon made of cheese, flat Earth). And I've heard that our shape-shifting reptilian overlords are unable to maintain their human form in low gravity. I have a feeling we'd see certain of the truthers undergo interesting changes on the Moon.
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he is learning to spell Canadian-style! Remember, 90% of Canada's population is bordering the US. Should U,S and A do something and we're on their doorstep
I'm from Texas and I've spelled it "cancelled" since I learned to spell. If you spelled it "canceled" you would have to pronounce it "canceeled."
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I'm from Texas and I've spelled it "cancelled" since I learned to spell. If you spelled it "canceled" you would have to pronounce it "canceeled."
But us imported Texans know that you natural Texans don't speak or spell correctly. I mean just look at Ross Perot and explain where the heck he gets r in wash - listen to him and a bunch of other Texans, they say warsh. Maybe they pick up the r's us real NYers drop?
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I have a feeling we'd see certain of the truthers undergo interesting changes on the Moon.
Certainly once they decided to go for a walk outside without a spacesuit, since their common sense told them it would be perfectly ok to do so

(killklown mode)

But the moon looks just like a desert and you can breath in a desert so you must be able to breathe on the moon

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But us imported Texans know that you natural Texans don't speak or spell correctly. I mean just look at Ross Perot and explain where the heck he gets r in wash - listen to him and a bunch of other Texans, they say warsh. Maybe they pick up the r's us real NYers drop?
Like where people from Boston get the "Rs" they put on the end of "Africker" and "Cuber"? From the ones they drop out of Havad.

I don't know about Hross. The only people I ever heard say "warsh" instead of "wash" were from Oklahoma. They also said "wrench" instead of "rinse." Do you maybe live up there near the Red River where proper speech has been corrupted by those Okies?
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I don't know about Hross. The only people I ever heard say "warsh" instead of "wash" were from Oklahoma. They also said "wrench" instead of "rinse." Do you maybe live up there near the Red River where proper speech has been corrupted by those Okies?
You're right about that. In my travels I've noticed a "warsh" and "anymore" belt that runs from around Virginia, straight across the Bible Belt and into Arkansas and Oklahoma. My guess is that it originated in Appalachia. I don't remember hearing it in Texas, but wouldn't be surprised to find it in the north.

ETA: just looked up Perot: he's from Texarkana!
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You're right about that. In my travels I've noticed a "warsh" and "anymore" belt that runs from around Virginia, straight across the Bible Belt and into Arkansas and Oklahoma. My guess is that it originated in Appalachia. I don't remember hearing it in Texas, but wouldn't be surprised to find it in the north.

ETA: just looked up Perot: he's from Texarkana!
Perot. Hell I worked for that guy more than 3 years and didn't know he was from Texarkana.

Guess how Perot made his billions? Did you say: Off the backs of his workers? Lucrative U.S. government contracts? Yep!

With all his billions maybe he can clear this up:
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You're right about that. In my travels I've noticed a "warsh" and "anymore" belt that runs from around Virginia, straight across the Bible Belt and into Arkansas and Oklahoma. My guess is that it originated in Appalachia. I don't remember hearing it in Texas, but wouldn't be surprised to find it in the north.
My dad's from northern Indiana, and he says "warsh". I think it's just a hick thing.
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(/killklown mode)
You keep doing that and it'll freeze in that mode someday!
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Do you know why it was cancelled?
It musta been a gubbmint conspiracy.
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But us imported Texans know that you natural Texans don't speak or spell correctly. I mean just look at Ross Perot and explain where the heck he gets r in wash - listen to him and a bunch of other Texans, they say warsh. Maybe they pick up the r's us real NYers drop?
You want I should start on the MissourEE or MissourAH debate now?
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You want I should start on the MissourEE or MissourAH debate now?
You forgot that some refer to Missouri as Misery.

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You forgot that some refer to Missouri as Misery.

Only those of us that live there...
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Ostensibly the purpose of the debate was to pit prominent "truthers" against members of the 9/11 Commisison and NIST. Of course the organizers knew that none of the official group would sign up. They knew that last Summer. Nor were they able to get media panelists on board, beyond a couple of truthers, and they had no moderator. So they changed the date from December to March, as if that would make a difference. During that time the "Scholar" schism happened, with some going ga-ga over Star Wars beams.

I would have participated if they had had a real format, a real panel, a real moderator, and if half the opponents weren't no-planer energy beamists. So, yeah, it was destined to fail. A total joke.
OK, thanks. Was wondering about it.

I'd like to see a well-organized debate; "expert" vs. "expert" in various areas.
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I think it would have been a mess. The truthers would have said...

"Isnt that fishy." "Thats pecular." "That doesnt sound right." and feel they were victorious.

The scientists would have listened, shook their heads in frustration, and then simply got up and left.

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My dad's from northern Indiana, and he says "warsh". I think it's just a hick thing.
Is that right? He's from there originally? Well, that's why I'm a tour guide and not a linguist.
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My dad's from northern Indiana, and he says "warsh". I think it's just a hick thing.
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Is that right? He's from there originally? Well, that's why I'm a tour guide and not a linguist.
Maybe it's a Great Plains thing.
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Is that right? He's from there originally? Well, that's why I'm a tour guide and not a linguist.
Yep, North Liberty, Indiana.
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OK, thanks. Was wondering about it.

I'd like to see a well-organized debate; "expert" vs. "expert" in various areas.
I've seen all the truther arguments, and can handle them myself. Others would handle individual arguments far better than I can, but I think I'd do a good job with the whole shebang.

And I'm an ****** tour guide. How can that be? Doesn't the "truth movement" promise to expose a world-shattering, enormous conspiracy? Aren't you right on the verge of that? So close? Almost have that last piece of the puzzle, do you?

Good lord, man, you can't even find the puzzle box in the closet. Your "movement" could not possibly be more pathetic.

Furthermore,


You

have

no

experts.

Hello? The official version is supported by thousands of professionals who actually investigated the crimes!

On the other hand, your very best are utterly incompetent.


Do you disagree? Then set up a debate between me and your number one. Your very best. Your head honcho.

Make that your top six. I hereby put out that challenge (they won't answer me individually).

Obviously a team of your best experts could make mincemeat of a tour guide, right? This stuff really matters to the "truth" movement, doesn't it? I mean, you have all sorts of evidence to back your claims, right?

Then set it up, skepticalcriticalguy.


What a sick, twisted horror your "truth" movement is. I have never, ever, seen anything as poorly-named.
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