Vertical Sharp Round Hole in WTC7

TruthSeeker1234 · 23rd March 2007, 10:00 AM

Well, well, well. Turns out, the OCTs were right about that 20 story hole in the south wall of WTC7 after all.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...21835292416413

Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it. There was evidently a cylindrical gash cut straight down through, that bears a striking resemblance to the cylindrical gashes cut straight down through WTC5.

Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this?

GlennB · 23rd March 2007, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Well, well, well. Turns out, the OCTs were right about that 20 story hole in the south wall of WTC7 after all.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...21835292416413

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3...d300000fh6.jpg

Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it. There was evidently a cylindrical gash cut straight down through, that bears a striking resemblance to the cylindrical gashes cut straight down through WTC5.

Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this?

Nano grinding-wheels.

chipmunk stew · 23rd March 2007, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Well, well, well. Turns out, the OCTs were right about that 20 story hole in the south wall of WTC7 after all.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...21835292416413

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3...d300000fh6.jpg

Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it. There was evidently a cylindrical gash cut straight down through, that bears a striking resemblance to the cylindrical gashes cut straight down through WTC5.

Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this?

Other than beam weapons? Hmm... Let's see:

the mighty hammer of Thor
the mighty drillpress of Bob
disruption of the quantum field
a tiny black hole
a tiny tornado
a train
a big-ass piece of debris from a collapsing building

I'm guessing it's one of those.

Arus808 · 23rd March 2007, 10:07 AM

truth, i thought you said that you wouldn't post here ever again. Why are you such a liar

and you must have xray vision because I see nothing "round" about that hole.

uk_dave · 23rd March 2007, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this?

Termites. Definately termites.

Or an asteroid impact.

Plus the termites.

Mancman · 23rd March 2007, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this?

Falling debris.

End of thread?

chipmunk stew · 23rd March 2007, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it.

The footage wasn't deliberately hidden by "them", genius.

Someone happened along this archival footage ON THE INTERNET and noticed that it had a rare view of the South side damage to the building.

edit: Note to self--draft memo to field ops reminding them not to place covered-up evidence ON THE FRAKKING INTERNET

Pardalis · 23rd March 2007, 10:10 AM

You forgot inter-dimensional leprechauns.

Arus808 · 23rd March 2007, 10:11 AM

and why do we have ANOTHER Thrad on this "hole"

there is still the 10 story hole thread
the other thread where TS was already talking about this hole on the rlease of this footage.

etc etc

why does ts always start a new thread on discussions from other threads?

Minadin · 23rd March 2007, 10:11 AM

Quote:

There was evidently a cylindrical gash

Cylindrical? What makes you think that? Just because that fits in with your pet theories of giant death ray star wars microwave laser beams from outer space? It HAS to be a cylinder for your theory to work, and there's absolutely no evidence for that. The evidence that it's even a gash is somewhat flimsy at the moment, I would say. I'm not yet sure what to make of it.

uk_dave · 23rd March 2007, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Pardalis

You forgot inter-dimensional leprechauns.

No I didn't.

I just didn't mention them.

Didn't want people to think I was being silly.

Interdimensional Leprechaun Termites is just a step too far for some people.

Redtail · 23rd March 2007, 10:16 AM

Ah HA! Beam weapons cut Sharp round vertical holes in all buildings with the numbers 7 and 5 but "dustify" (with fizzies) all building with 1 and 2! Diabolical!

tacodaemon · 23rd March 2007, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Redtail

Ah HA! Beam weapons cut Sharp round vertical holes in all buildings with the numbers 7 and 5 but "dustify" (with fizzies) all building with 1 and 2! Diabolical!

Now now, the round holes weren't due to the beam weapons, they were due to the Keebler Elves using their giant cookie cutters.

Horatius · 23rd March 2007, 10:20 AM

I'll just remind everyone what TS134's idea of "round holes" is, and allow you to make your own decisions on what he might think "cylindrical" means.

Is there a term like "colour blind" that applies to shapes?

ETA: And to steel? Because there's "no steel" in that photo, right?

Horatius · 23rd March 2007, 10:27 AM

This "cylinder" appears to be parallel to the face of the building. We can also assume it's parallel to the beam that made it, right? So, by projecting that line outwards, can we determine exactly where the beam came from?

R.Mackey has pretty conclusively shown that such a beam could not be a space-based weapon, but from this "cylinder", it looks to me like it could not have come from anywhere else. So maybe, just maybe, it wasn't the beam that caused this bit of damage*.

*Ridiculous suggestion, I know, but we must consider all options!

chipmunk stew · 23rd March 2007, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Minadin

The evidence that it's even a gash is somewhat flimsy at the moment, I would say. I'm not yet sure what to make of it.

Really? I think the evidence is pretty damn convincing.

beachnut · 23rd March 2007, 10:27 AM

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Wait! news just in a photo from ground zero confirms what people saw cutting and knocking down the WTC complex!

This transformer was finally stopped on 9/11 by a young kid with a small cricket pocket blaster. The kid shot the transformer as he was cutting a very large 20 story gash into WTC7. If the quick thinking kid had not shot the YellowJacketNeoConTransformer, firemen inspecting WTC7 would have been crushed by building parts. TOP SECRET NOFOR WINTEL

boloboffin · 23rd March 2007, 10:37 AM

If we could harness the energy used by the truthers to move goalposts, we could build another pyramid.

RAMS · 23rd March 2007, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Well, well, well. Turns out, the OCTs were right about that 20 story hole in the south wall of WTC7 after all.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...21835292416413

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3...d300000fh6.jpg

Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it. There was evidently a cylindrical gash cut straight down through, that bears a striking resemblance to the cylindrical gashes cut straight down through WTC5.

Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this?

Are you deft, of course 'Beam Weapons'. Gee, so simple.

Uh..............where are the beam weapons, btw, and who runs them?

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RAMS

WildCat · 23rd March 2007, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this?

You're getting better and better TS1234 - 8 laughing dogs! A new record!

Anti-sophist · 23rd March 2007, 10:42 AM

Can someone explain what exactly makes a hole "sharp round"?

uk_dave · 23rd March 2007, 10:42 AM

On this subject, Mr Avery asks.....

Quote:

Dylan Avery:
When you take a gash out of a tree, does it explode into sawdust?

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=5996

Why do I now feel the urge to hum 'The Lumberjack Song'?

chipmunk stew · 23rd March 2007, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

This "cylinder" appears to be parallel to the face of the building. We can also assume it's parallel to the beam that made it, right? So, by projecting that line outwards, can we determine exactly where the beam came from?

R.Mackey has pretty conclusively shown that such a beam could not be a space-based weapon, but from this "cylinder", it looks to me like it could not have come from anywhere else. So maybe, just maybe, it wasn't the beam that caused this bit of damage*.

*Ridiculous suggestion, I know, but we must consider all options!

It was probably cleverly reflected off of a satellite mirror, so as to follow a perfect plumb line down to Ground Zero.

I just gave you an out, TS. Take it to Judy right away. She's waiting on the balcony. Go serenade her with this new idea. You can thank me later.

RAMS · 23rd March 2007, 10:46 AM

Ya know, on second inspection with the HST from space, I looked more carefully at that opening photo from 'toothreeker' and behold, that whole photo is just crawling with billions of thermites. Tons of 'em. Pesky thermites. Who could have guessed.

RAMS

ihaunter · 23rd March 2007, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mancman

Falling debris.

End of thread?

You're quite the optimist.

chipmunk stew · 23rd March 2007, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by uk_dave

On this subject, Mr Avery asks.....

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=5996

Why do I now feel the urge to hum 'The Lumberjack Song'?

Sweet! This is exactly the analogy Judy Wood employed just as she swerved precipitously off the deep end. Has Dylan reached the precipice of his own deep end?

Arus808 · 23rd March 2007, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by beachnut

Wait! news just in a photo from ground zero confirms what people saw cutting and knocking down the WTC complex!
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...40fec70f90.jpg
This transformer was finally stopped on 9/11 by a young kid with a small cricket pocket blaster. The kid shot the transformer as he was cutting a very large 20 story gash into WTC7. If the quick thinking kid had not shot the YellowJacketNeoConTransformer, firemen inspecting WTC7 would have been crushed by building parts. TOP SECRET NOFOR WINTEL

Poor BumbleBee, the last thing he needs to be drawn into, is being blamed for 911. The AutoBots are already undermanned as it is.

RAMS · 23rd March 2007, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by beachnut

haaa haaa halaaaaaaaa haahaahahhahahahahahahahahhaa

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahaha

If you can not laugh for a moment at TS1234

Haaa hahhhaaaahaaaaa hahaha

Should I include the MP3 version, if it would make money we could release HAHAAA HAHAA on SACD or DVD audio.

Buy the "HAAAHAAA HAAA" DVD today so you laugh along with total idiots know as the nuts and dolts of 9/11 truth, as they uncover Beam Weapons, mini Nukes, and dustify steel all day.

19.95 shipping included.

Wait! news just in a photo from ground zero confirms what people saw cutting and knocking down the WTC complex!
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...40fec70f90.jpg
This transformer was finally stopped on 9/11 by a young kid with a small cricket pocket blaster. The kid shot the transformer as he was cutting a very large 20 story gash into WTC7. If the quick thinking kid had not shot the YellowJacketNeoConTransformer, firemen inspecting WTC7 would have been crushed by building parts. TOP SECRET NOFOR WINTEL

Lord, I am in tears over the transformer.......

RAMS

T.A.M. · 23rd March 2007, 11:05 AM

Footage is a copy of a copy of a copy by the looks of it. The compression is horrid.

Show me the original footage from the station, not some F&*King low rez barely viewable footage from google. You tried the same thing with your alleged "Nose Cone out the other side" crap.

Try again.

TAM

TruthSeeker1234 · 23rd March 2007, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by chipmunk stew

The footage wasn't deliberately hidden by "them", genius.

Someone happened along this archival footage ON THE INTERNET and noticed that it had a rare view of the South side damage to the building.

NIST claims to have photographs of the south face showing the hole. The editors of Popular Mechanics claimed to have been shown them, in preperation for their book.

"They" certainly haven't let "us" look at those, and I think it's about time "they" do.

T.A.M. · 23rd March 2007, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

NIST claims to have photographs of the south face showing the hole. The editors of Popular Mechanics claimed to have been shown them, in preperation for their book.

"They" certainly haven't let "us" look at those, and I think it's about time "they" do.

they havent let the bum down the street look at them either. In other words who the hell are "you" to have access to such things. Do you represent any official organization that should have access to such things?

TAM

TruthSeeker1234 · 23rd March 2007, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

Footage is a copy of a copy of a copy by the looks of it. The compression is horrid.

Show me the original footage from the station, not some F&*King low rez barely viewable footage from google. You tried the same thing with your alleged "Nose Cone out the other side" crap.

Here is a 640x480 video of the WTC7 hole.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CV4PU0IQ

I would love nothing better than to find the highest resolution copies of all the 9/11 TV footage. That would be up to the television stations. BBC "lost" all of theirs. Don't you agree that Fox, CNN, et al. should release hi res copies of everything? Or did they "lose" them?

T.A.M. · 23rd March 2007, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Here is a 640x480 video of the WTC7 hole.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CV4PU0IQ

I would love nothing better than to find the highest resolution copies of all the 9/11 TV footage. That would be up to the television stations. BBC "lost" all of theirs. Don't you agree that Fox, CNN, et al. should release hi res copies of everything? Or did they "lose" them?

Thanks for the link, but even 640x480 is low rez for this type of thing.

I feel that they do not owe anyone anything. They are private companies. They own the footage. Who do they have an "obligation" to provide this to?

TAM

TruthSeeker1234 · 23rd March 2007, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

they havent let the bum down the street look at them either. In other words who the hell are "you" to have access to such things. Do you represent any official organization that should have access to such things?

TAM

For starters, government documents and photographs are public domain.

But the real issue is the concept of "official organization". The whole problem is that the "official organization" DID 9/11. It is not reasonable to expect criminals to investigate themselves.

WildCat · 23rd March 2007, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

Thanks for the link, but even 640x480 is low rez for this type of thing.

Hi-Def TV wasn't as prevalent back then, 640x480 might be all there is.

TruthSeeker1234 · 23rd March 2007, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

This "cylinder" appears to be parallel to the face of the building. We can also assume it's parallel to the beam that made it, right? So, by projecting that line outwards, can we determine exactly where the beam came from?

R.Mackey has pretty conclusively shown that such a beam could not be a space-based weapon, but from this "cylinder", it looks to me like it could not have come from anywhere else. So maybe, just maybe, it wasn't the beam that caused this bit of damage*.

Mackey's objections mostly revolved around the weight of an orbiting power supply. We must consider the possibility that the power supply is earth based, and uses arrays of orbiting reflectors.

I am open to other explanations for the cylindrical 9/11 holes, and the other strange phenonmena. Falling rubble? How could falling rubble cut so cleanly?

Horatius · 23rd March 2007, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

For starters, government documents and photographs are public domain.

I've seen people assert this before, but is it really true? Or is it true for some classes of documents, but not others?

How does this account for the existence of classified documents?

chipmunk stew · 23rd March 2007, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Hi-Def TV wasn't as prevalent back then, 640x480 might be all there is.

It's certainly good enough to see that the gash really is a gash.

Horatius · 23rd March 2007, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by chipmunk stew

It was probably cleverly reflected off of a satellite mirror, so as to follow a perfect plumb line down to Ground Zero.

I just gave you an out, TS. Take it to Judy right away. She's waiting on the balcony. Go serenade her with this new idea. You can thank me later.

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

Mackey's objections mostly revolved around the weight of an orbiting power supply. We must consider the possibility that the power supply is earth based, and uses arrays of orbiting reflectors.

Chipmunk Stew, Meet TruthSeeker1234. TruthSeeker1234, meet Chipmunk Stew. I'll just let you two fight it out, okay?

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

I am open to other explanations for the cylindrical 9/11 holes, and the other strange phenonmena. Falling rubble? How could falling rubble cut so cleanly?

No you aren't.

tacodaemon · 23rd March 2007, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

I've seen people assert this before, but is it really true? Or is it true for some classes of documents, but not others?

How does this account for the existence of classified documents?

What it means is that works of the U.S. government cannot be copyrighted, under U.S. copyright law. That doesn't mean there aren't other legal ways of preventing people from disseminating them, such as secret classifications and such.

Edit: also, the lack of copyright doesn't mean the government can't charge some kind of service fee for providing copies of the documents, such as the $13,600 or whatever it was that Christopher 7 was complaining he can't come up with. (One of the rationales for the government making more and more of its things available on the Internet is that it reduces the resources needed to disseminate them -- such as employee time, paper, ink, shipping costs, etc. -- which are the reason why there are service fees.)

23rd March 2007, 10:00 AM	#1
TruthSeeker1234 Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,756	Vertical Sharp Round Hole in WTC7 Well, well, well. Turns out, the OCTs were right about that 20 story hole in the south wall of WTC7 after all. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...21835292416413 Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it. There was evidently a cylindrical gash cut straight down through, that bears a striking resemblance to the cylindrical gashes cut straight down through WTC5. Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this?
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23rd March 2007, 10:06 AM	#3
chipmunk stew The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE PA Posts: 7,465	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 Well, well, well. Turns out, the OCTs were right about that 20 story hole in the south wall of WTC7 after all. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...21835292416413 http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3...d300000fh6.jpg Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it. There was evidently a cylindrical gash cut straight down through, that bears a striking resemblance to the cylindrical gashes cut straight down through WTC5. Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this? Other than beam weapons? Hmm... Let's see: the mighty hammer of Thor the mighty drillpress of Bob disruption of the quantum field a tiny black hole a tiny tornado a train a big-ass piece of debris from a collapsing building I'm guessing it's one of those.
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23rd March 2007, 10:07 AM	#4
Arus808 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,202	truth, i thought you said that you wouldn't post here ever again. Why are you such a liar and you must have xray vision because I see nothing "round" about that hole.
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23rd March 2007, 10:09 AM	#5
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this? Termites. Definately termites. Or an asteroid impact. Plus the termites.
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23rd March 2007, 10:09 AM	#6
Mancman Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,010	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this? Falling debris. End of thread?
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23rd March 2007, 10:06 AM	#2
GlennB Jellied eel and offal fancier Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arcadia Posts: 8,913	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 Well, well, well. Turns out, the OCTs were right about that 20 story hole in the south wall of WTC7 after all. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...21835292416413 http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3...d300000fh6.jpg Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it. There was evidently a cylindrical gash cut straight down through, that bears a striking resemblance to the cylindrical gashes cut straight down through WTC5. Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this? Nano grinding-wheels.

23rd March 2007, 10:10 AM	#8
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	You forgot inter-dimensional leprechauns.

23rd March 2007, 10:11 AM	#9
Arus808 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,202	and why do we have ANOTHER Thrad on this "hole" there is still the 10 story hole thread the other thread where TS was already talking about this hole on the rlease of this footage. etc etc why does ts always start a new thread on discussions from other threads?
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Minadin Hiding his Head in the Sane Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,473	Quote: There was evidently a cylindrical gash Cylindrical? What makes you think that? Just because that fits in with your pet theories of giant death ray star wars microwave laser beams from outer space? It HAS to be a cylinder for your theory to work, and there's absolutely no evidence for that. The evidence that it's even a gash is somewhat flimsy at the moment, I would say. I'm not yet sure what to make of it.
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23rd March 2007, 10:12 AM	#11
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866	Originally Posted by Pardalis You forgot inter-dimensional leprechauns. No I didn't. I just didn't mention them. Didn't want people to think I was being silly. Interdimensional Leprechaun Termites is just a step too far for some people.
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23rd March 2007, 10:16 AM	#12
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,302	Ah HA! Beam weapons cut Sharp round vertical holes in all buildings with the numbers 7 and 5 but "dustify" (with fizzies) all building with 1 and 2! Diabolical!
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23rd March 2007, 10:18 AM	#13
tacodaemon Muse Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DC Posts: 571	Originally Posted by Redtail Ah HA! Beam weapons cut Sharp round vertical holes in all buildings with the numbers 7 and 5 but "dustify" (with fizzies) all building with 1 and 2! Diabolical! Now now, the round holes weren't due to the beam weapons, they were due to the Keebler Elves using their giant cookie cutters.
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23rd March 2007, 10:20 AM	#14
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,881	I'll just remind everyone what TS134's idea of "round holes" is, and allow you to make your own decisions on what he might think "cylindrical" means. Is there a term like "colour blind" that applies to shapes? ETA: And to steel? Because there's "no steel" in that photo, right?
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23rd March 2007, 10:27 AM	#15
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,881	This "cylinder" appears to be parallel to the face of the building. We can also assume it's parallel to the beam that made it, right? So, by projecting that line outwards, can we determine exactly where the beam came from? R.Mackey has pretty conclusively shown that such a beam could not be a space-based weapon, but from this "cylinder", it looks to me like it could not have come from anywhere else. So maybe, just maybe, it wasn't the beam that caused this bit of damage. Ridiculous suggestion, I know, but we must consider all options!
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23rd March 2007, 10:27 AM	#16
chipmunk stew The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE PA Posts: 7,465	Originally Posted by Minadin The evidence that it's even a gash is somewhat flimsy at the moment, I would say. I'm not yet sure what to make of it. Really? I think the evidence is pretty damn convincing.
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23rd March 2007, 10:39 AM	#19
RAMS Thinker Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 157	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 Well, well, well. Turns out, the OCTs were right about that 20 story hole in the south wall of WTC7 after all. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...21835292416413 http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3...d300000fh6.jpg Now we can see why they haven't released the pictures of it. There was evidently a cylindrical gash cut straight down through, that bears a striking resemblance to the cylindrical gashes cut straight down through WTC5. Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this? Are you deft, of course 'Beam Weapons'. Gee, so simple. Uh..............where are the beam weapons, btw, and who runs them? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ...... RAMS
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23rd March 2007, 10:39 AM	#20
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,957	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 Other than beam weapons, what explanation would there be for this? You're getting better and better TS1234 - 8 laughing dogs! A new record!

23rd March 2007, 10:42 AM	#21
Anti-sophist Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,542	Can someone explain what exactly makes a hole "sharp round"?
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23rd March 2007, 10:42 AM	#22
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866	On this subject, Mr Avery asks..... Quote: Dylan Avery: When you take a gash out of a tree, does it explode into sawdust? http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=5996 Why do I now feel the urge to hum 'The Lumberjack Song'?
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23rd March 2007, 10:45 AM	#23
chipmunk stew The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE PA Posts: 7,465	Originally Posted by Horatius This "cylinder" appears to be parallel to the face of the building. We can also assume it's parallel to the beam that made it, right? So, by projecting that line outwards, can we determine exactly where the beam came from? R.Mackey has pretty conclusively shown that such a beam could not be a space-based weapon, but from this "cylinder", it looks to me like it could not have come from anywhere else. So maybe, just maybe, it wasn't the beam that caused this bit of damage. Ridiculous suggestion, I know, but we must consider all options! It was probably cleverly reflected off of a satellite mirror, so as to follow a perfect plumb line down to Ground Zero. I just gave you an out, TS. Take it to Judy right away. She's waiting on the balcony. Go serenade her with this new idea. You can thank me later.
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23rd March 2007, 10:46 AM	#24
RAMS Thinker Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 157	Ya know, on second inspection with the HST from space, I looked more carefully at that opening photo from 'toothreeker' and behold, that whole photo is just crawling with billions of thermites. Tons of 'em. Pesky thermites. Who could have guessed. RAMS
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23rd March 2007, 10:50 AM	#25
ihaunter Undead Skeptic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Middle of nowhere, Iowa Posts: 375	Originally Posted by Mancman Falling debris. End of thread? You're quite the optimist.
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23rd March 2007, 10:51 AM	#26
chipmunk stew The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE PA Posts: 7,465	Originally Posted by uk_dave On this subject, Mr Avery asks..... http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...showtopic=5996 Why do I now feel the urge to hum 'The Lumberjack Song'? Sweet! This is exactly the analogy Judy Wood employed just as she swerved precipitously off the deep end. Has Dylan reached the precipice of his own deep end?
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23rd March 2007, 10:52 AM	#27
Arus808 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,202	Originally Posted by beachnut Wait! news just in a photo from ground zero confirms what people saw cutting and knocking down the WTC complex! http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...40fec70f90.jpg This transformer was finally stopped on 9/11 by a young kid with a small cricket pocket blaster. The kid shot the transformer as he was cutting a very large 20 story gash into WTC7. If the quick thinking kid had not shot the YellowJacketNeoConTransformer, firemen inspecting WTC7 would have been crushed by building parts. TOP SECRET NOFOR WINTEL Poor BumbleBee, the last thing he needs to be drawn into, is being blamed for 911. The AutoBots are already undermanned as it is.
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23rd March 2007, 10:57 AM	#28
RAMS Thinker Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 157	Originally Posted by beachnut haaa haaa halaaaaaaaa haahaahahhahahahahahahahahhaa hahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha If you can not laugh for a moment at TS1234 Haaa hahhhaaaahaaaaa hahaha Should I include the MP3 version, if it would make money we could release HAHAAA HAHAA on SACD or DVD audio. Buy the "HAAAHAAA HAAA" DVD today so you laugh along with total idiots know as the nuts and dolts of 9/11 truth, as they uncover Beam Weapons, mini Nukes, and dustify steel all day. 19.95 shipping included. Wait! news just in a photo from ground zero confirms what people saw cutting and knocking down the WTC complex! http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...40fec70f90.jpg This transformer was finally stopped on 9/11 by a young kid with a small cricket pocket blaster. The kid shot the transformer as he was cutting a very large 20 story gash into WTC7. If the quick thinking kid had not shot the YellowJacketNeoConTransformer, firemen inspecting WTC7 would have been crushed by building parts. TOP SECRET NOFOR WINTEL Lord, I am in tears over the transformer....... RAMS
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23rd March 2007, 11:05 AM	#29
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Footage is a copy of a copy of a copy by the looks of it. The compression is horrid. Show me the original footage from the station, not some F&*King low rez barely viewable footage from google. You tried the same thing with your alleged "Nose Cone out the other side" crap. Try again. TAM

23rd March 2007, 11:05 AM	#30
TruthSeeker1234 Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,756	Originally Posted by chipmunk stew The footage wasn't deliberately hidden by "them", genius. Someone happened along this archival footage ON THE INTERNET and noticed that it had a rare view of the South side damage to the building. NIST claims to have photographs of the south face showing the hole. The editors of Popular Mechanics claimed to have been shown them, in preperation for their book. "They" certainly haven't let "us" look at those, and I think it's about time "they" do.
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23rd March 2007, 11:06 AM	#31
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 NIST claims to have photographs of the south face showing the hole. The editors of Popular Mechanics claimed to have been shown them, in preperation for their book. "They" certainly haven't let "us" look at those, and I think it's about time "they" do. they havent let the bum down the street look at them either. In other words who the hell are "you" to have access to such things. Do you represent any official organization that should have access to such things? TAM

23rd March 2007, 11:09 AM	#32
TruthSeeker1234 Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,756	Originally Posted by T.A.M. Footage is a copy of a copy of a copy by the looks of it. The compression is horrid. Show me the original footage from the station, not some F&*King low rez barely viewable footage from google. You tried the same thing with your alleged "Nose Cone out the other side" crap. Here is a 640x480 video of the WTC7 hole. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CV4PU0IQ I would love nothing better than to find the highest resolution copies of all the 9/11 TV footage. That would be up to the television stations. BBC "lost" all of theirs. Don't you agree that Fox, CNN, et al. should release hi res copies of everything? Or did they "lose" them?
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23rd March 2007, 11:12 AM	#33
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 Here is a 640x480 video of the WTC7 hole. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CV4PU0IQ I would love nothing better than to find the highest resolution copies of all the 9/11 TV footage. That would be up to the television stations. BBC "lost" all of theirs. Don't you agree that Fox, CNN, et al. should release hi res copies of everything? Or did they "lose" them? Thanks for the link, but even 640x480 is low rez for this type of thing. I feel that they do not owe anyone anything. They are private companies. They own the footage. Who do they have an "obligation" to provide this to? TAM

23rd March 2007, 11:15 AM	#34
TruthSeeker1234 Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,756	Originally Posted by T.A.M. they havent let the bum down the street look at them either. In other words who the hell are "you" to have access to such things. Do you represent any official organization that should have access to such things? TAM For starters, government documents and photographs are public domain. But the real issue is the concept of "official organization". The whole problem is that the "official organization" DID 9/11. It is not reasonable to expect criminals to investigate themselves.
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23rd March 2007, 11:22 AM	#35
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,957	Originally Posted by T.A.M. Thanks for the link, but even 640x480 is low rez for this type of thing. Hi-Def TV wasn't as prevalent back then, 640x480 might be all there is.

23rd March 2007, 11:24 AM	#36
TruthSeeker1234 Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,756	Originally Posted by Horatius This "cylinder" appears to be parallel to the face of the building. We can also assume it's parallel to the beam that made it, right? So, by projecting that line outwards, can we determine exactly where the beam came from? R.Mackey has pretty conclusively shown that such a beam could not be a space-based weapon, but from this "cylinder", it looks to me like it could not have come from anywhere else. So maybe, just maybe, it wasn't the beam that caused this bit of damage*. Mackey's objections mostly revolved around the weight of an orbiting power supply. We must consider the possibility that the power supply is earth based, and uses arrays of orbiting reflectors. I am open to other explanations for the cylindrical 9/11 holes, and the other strange phenonmena. Falling rubble? How could falling rubble cut so cleanly?
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