Al Gore gives the game away

Abdul Alhazred · 23rd March 2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Al Gore

I don't want to diminish the threat of terrorism at all, it is extremely serious, but on a long-term global basis, global warming is the most serious problem we are facing.

Like terrorism, global warming is to be an all purpose pretext for pushing people around.

Only he's most serious about it.

Al Gore being hit in the testicles by a poltergeist

Lonewulf · 23rd March 2007, 06:08 PM

Well, that's about 30 seconds of my life I can't get back. Thank you oh so very much.

shemp · 23rd March 2007, 09:30 PM

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a_unique_person · 23rd March 2007, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Like terrorism, global warming is to be an all purpose pretext for pushing people around.

Only he's most serious about it.

Evidence? You tried to ridicule him yesterday, and came off second best.

CFLarsen · 24th March 2007, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Like terrorism, global warming is to be an all purpose pretext for pushing people around.

How do you suggest we deal with terrorism and global warming, then?

Abdul Alhazred · 24th March 2007, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

How do you suggest we deal with terrorism and global warming, then?

Why do you care?

You have already made a moral commitment to your own extinction.

CFLarsen · 24th March 2007, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Why do you care?

You have already made a moral commitment to your own extinction.

How do you suggest we deal with terrorism and global warming?

Complexity · 24th March 2007, 12:30 PM

I go away for five months, come back, and see that Larsen is still playing his version of Eliza.

Larsen, many people have stopped responding to your taunts because they simply do not like you, not because you have, in any sense, 'won'.

No one really expects you to change, of course, but hope springs eternal.

Keep to your bridge and leave the world for the rest of us.

strathmeyer · 24th March 2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

How do you suggest we deal with terrorism and global warming?

By finding out if they exists?

Or should we do something else, first?

a_unique_person · 24th March 2007, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Why do you care?

You have already made a moral commitment to your own extinction.

How?

Abdul Alhazred · 24th March 2007, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by strathmeyer

By finding out if they exists?

It's kind of like Pascal's wager.

Abdul Alhazred · 24th March 2007, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

Evidence? You tried to ridicule him yesterday, and came off second best.

It took me a while to figure out what you meant.

I wasn't ridiculing Al Gore.

I was ridiculing ... guess who?

peptoabysmal · 24th March 2007, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

How do you suggest we deal with terrorism and global warming?

Nuclear Winter should do the job.

Dr Adequate · 24th March 2007, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by strathmeyer

By finding out if they exists?

Sure, knock yourself out.

I think you'll find that terrorism and global warming do exist.

Your call.

I mean, what?

skeptifem · 24th March 2007, 10:18 PM

as long as we reduce emissions who cares if we get nuked? uh....

ImaginalDisc · 24th March 2007, 11:32 PM

Are you saying that Al Gore is wrong? Terrorists want to kill many people. Climate change could easily destroy civilization as we know it everywhere in the world. Smelly Jihadists don't even compare to that.

Badger · 24th March 2007, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by ImaginalDisc

Are you saying that Al Gore is wrong? Terrorists want to kill many people. Climate change could easily destroy civilization as we know it everywhere in the world. Smelly Jihadists don't even compare to that.

This is an interesting paragraph. Would you care to expound on these statements, particularly the last 2 sentences?

CFLarsen · 25th March 2007, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

It's kind of like Pascal's wager.

Are you saying that terrorism and global warming don't exist?

a_unique_person · 25th March 2007, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by nails3jesus0

as long as we reduce emissions who cares if we get nuked? uh....

It's not reducing emissions that's the aim, it's avoiding a disaster due to enhanced global warming.

strathmeyer · 25th March 2007, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

Are you saying that terrorism and global warming don't exist?

Are you claiming they do without anything to back up your claims, thus your repeating yourself?

CFLarsen · 25th March 2007, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by strathmeyer

Are you claiming they do without anything to back up your claims, thus your repeating yourself?

Of course terrorism and global warming exist. The question re. global warming is, is it due to humans? The evidence that it is, is mounting.

Abdul Alhazred · 25th March 2007, 04:49 AM

Clarification:

It is scientifically proven that there is global warming and that human activity has something to do with it.

It is not proven that "the planet has a fever" or that there is a danger comparable to terrorism.

Well if a demagogue told you your baby had a fever what would you do? Isn't it always about the children?

Pure Pascal's Wager stuff.

Any time a politician says "crisis" I know my freedom is in danger.

Get it now?

CFLarsen · 25th March 2007, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Clarification:

It is scientifically proven that there is global warming and that human activity has something to do with it.

It is not proven that "the planet has a fever" or that there is a danger comparable to terrorism.

What do you think the consequences of global warming will be?

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Well if a demagogue told you your baby had a fever what would you do? Isn't it always about the children?

Pure Pascal's Wager stuff.

Any time a politician says "crisis" I know my freedom is in danger.

Get it now?

That is positively paranoid. If you think politicians by default are untrustworthy, what do you suggest we put in their place?

What about terrorism? Does that exist?

Darth Rotor · 25th March 2007, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

If you think politicians by default are untrustworthy, what do you suggest we put in their place?

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Quote:

What about terrorism? Does that exist?

Last time I checked, yes. It's not scaring the goats yet. I worry that the yogurt will taste sour if it ever does.

DR

CFLarsen · 25th March 2007, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

's

Last time I checked, yes. It's not scaring the goats yet. I worry that the yogurt will taste sour if it ever does.

DR

I have absolutely no idea what that meant.

Abdul Alhazred · 25th March 2007, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

What do you think the consequences of global warming will be?

Nothing we can't adapt to. As your countrymen are already doing.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=77816

An opportunity not a crisis.

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

That is positively paranoid. If you think politicians by default are untrustworthy, what do you suggest we put in their place?

The Mafia, maybe?

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

What about terrorism? Does that exist?

It was Al Gore who made that absurd comparison. Did you read what I wrote?

CFLarsen · 25th March 2007, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Nothing we can't adapt to. As your countrymen are already doing.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=77816

An opportunity not a crisis.

I didn't ask if you thought we couldn't adapt to it. I asked you what you thought the consequences would be.

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

The Mafia, maybe?

If you are going to treat your own posts like a joke, why should we take you seriously?

What should we put in the place of politicians?

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

It was Al Gore who made that absurd comparison. Did you read what I wrote?

Does terrorism exist?

Abdul Alhazred · 25th March 2007, 09:28 AM

Your simple faith in politicians is touching.

Abdul Alhazred · 25th March 2007, 09:33 AM

Yes terrorism exists and is a real problem. In fact a war. To be prosecuted as such in my opinion.

Global warming is not, regardless of what is said by hysteria-mongering rich SOB politicians who want more power than their money can buy.

Adapt as the need arises, preferably in a profitable way after the manner of your countrymen.

OK? Are you being deliberately dense?

skeptifem · 25th March 2007, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

It's not reducing emissions that's the aim, it's avoiding a disaster due to enhanced global warming.

but who cares if we get nuked or a horrible bio terrorism disease infects everyone??? I dont see why its unimportant to try and keep people safe from terrorism. Its just a stupid comment on his part.

ImaginalDisc · 25th March 2007, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Yes terrorism exists and is a real problem. In fact a war. To be prosecuted as such in my opinion.

Global warming is not, regardless of what is said by hysteria-mongering rich SOB politicians who want more power than their money can buy.

Adapt as the need arises, preferably in a profitable way after the manner of your countrymen.

OK? Are you being deliberately dense?

Wow, it seems as though some one has forgotten that for decades the people who have been seriously examining the global warming issue are scientists, not politicians, and that the debate about whether global warming is happening is over.

RandFan · 25th March 2007, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by ImaginalDisc

Wow, it seems as though some one has forgotten that for decades the people who have been seriously examining the global warming issue are scientists, not politicians, and that the debate about whether global warming is happening is over.

I don't mean to speak for Abdul but he has made his meaning clear on more than one occassion. He isn't saying that global warming isn't happening. He is saying that it isn't a crisis.

CFLarsen · 25th March 2007, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Yes terrorism exists and is a real problem. In fact a war. To be prosecuted as such in my opinion.

Global warming is not, regardless of what is said by hysteria-mongering rich SOB politicians who want more power than their money can buy.

What about the scientists?

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Adapt as the need arises, preferably in a profitable way after the manner of your countrymen.

What do you think the consequences are of global warming? How do we adapt? Is it not possible to predict what will happen, instead of waiting until it has happened?

What should we put in the place of politicians?

Kerberos · 25th March 2007, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

Yes terrorism exists and is a real problem. In fact a war. To be prosecuted as such in my opinion.

Global warming is not, regardless of what is said by hysteria-mongering rich SOB politicians who want more power than their money can buy.

Adapt as the need arises, preferably in a profitable way after the manner of your countrymen.

OK? Are you being deliberately dense?

So people in Africa who might face starvation because of clima change should start bickering with Canada over pieces of rock in the Arctics? Could you explain how that would help?

Darth Rotor · 25th March 2007, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Kerberos

So people in Africa who might face starvation because of clima change should start bickering with Canada over pieces of rock in the Arctics? Could you explain how that would help?

According to the Atlantic Monthly's current article, the Darfur scrap of the moment is driven by two factors: population increase coupled with a climate change that makes the area less fertile/productive than it was a generation ago. The Africans don't have the transport necessary to get to the Arctic for a scrap with he Canadians . . . yet.

DR

Abdul Alhazred · 25th March 2007, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

What about the scientists?

How many times do I have to explain it?

You are deliberately pretending to be stupid.

Abdul Alhazred · 25th March 2007, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Kerberos

So people in Africa who might face starvation because of clima change should start bickering with Canada over pieces of rock in the Arctics? Could you explain how that would help?

They are starving now because their dictators have decided that they should starve.

What are you going to do about that?

Persecute farmers for their tractor emissions?

CFLarsen · 25th March 2007, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred

How many times do I have to explain it?

You are deliberately pretending to be stupid.

Perhaps you didn't understand what I said.

If you want to dismiss what politicians say about global warming, what about what the scientists say? Not that there is global warming, but what causes it?

What do you think the consequences are of global warming?

How do we adapt?

Is it not possible to predict what will happen, instead of waiting until it has happened?

What should we put in the place of politicians?

Abdul Alhazred · 25th March 2007, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by RandFan

I don't mean to speak for Abdul but he has made his meaning clear on more than one occassion. He isn't saying that global warming isn't happening. He is saying that it isn't a crisis.

It's like arguing with a creationist who says "If Man is from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"

Abdul Alhazred · 25th March 2007, 11:55 AM

How much power do you want politicians to have?

23rd March 2007, 05:16 PM	#1
Abdul Alhazred Yes, that one. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,476	Al Gore gives the game away Originally Posted by *Al Gore* I don't want to diminish the threat of terrorism at all, it is extremely serious, but on a long-term global basis, global warming is the most serious problem we are facing. Like terrorism, global warming is to be an all purpose pretext for pushing people around. Only he's most serious about it. Al Gore being hit in the testicles by a poltergeist
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23rd March 2007, 06:08 PM	#2
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23rd March 2007, 09:30 PM	#3
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23rd March 2007, 10:38 PM	#4
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mt Disappointment Posts: 33,325	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Like terrorism, global warming is to be an all purpose pretext for pushing people around. Only he's most serious about it. Evidence? You tried to ridicule him yesterday, and came off second best.
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24th March 2007, 12:36 AM	#5
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Like terrorism, global warming is to be an all purpose pretext for pushing people around. How do you suggest we deal with terrorism and global warming, then?
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24th March 2007, 08:51 AM	#6
Abdul Alhazred Yes, that one. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,476	Originally Posted by CFLarsen How do you suggest we deal with terrorism and global warming, then? Why do you care? You have already made a moral commitment to your own extinction.
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24th March 2007, 08:57 AM	#7
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Why do you care? You have already made a moral commitment to your own extinction. How do you suggest we deal with terrorism and global warming?
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24th March 2007, 01:36 PM	#9
strathmeyer seriously unable to be serious Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Posts: 2,382	Originally Posted by CFLarsen How do you suggest we deal with terrorism and global warming? By finding out if they exists? Or should we do something else, first?

24th March 2007, 03:33 PM	#10
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mt Disappointment Posts: 33,325	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Why do you care? You have already made a moral commitment to your own extinction. How?
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24th March 2007, 05:22 PM	#11
Abdul Alhazred Yes, that one. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,476	Originally Posted by strathmeyer By finding out if they exists? It's kind of like Pascal's wager.
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24th March 2007, 05:25 PM	#12
Abdul Alhazred Yes, that one. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,476	Originally Posted by a_unique_person Evidence? You tried to ridicule him yesterday, and came off second best. It took me a while to figure out what you meant. I wasn't ridiculing Al Gore. I was ridiculing ... guess who?
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24th March 2007, 09:52 PM	#13
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Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,897	Originally Posted by strathmeyer By finding out if they exists? Sure, knock yourself out. I think you'll find that terrorism and global warming do exist. Your call. I mean, what?

24th March 2007, 10:18 PM	#15
skeptifem is not beauty 2K compliant Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,259	as long as we reduce emissions who cares if we get nuked? uh....
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24th March 2007, 11:32 PM	#16
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25th March 2007, 12:25 AM	#18
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred It's kind of like Pascal's wager. Are you saying that terrorism and global warming don't exist?
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25th March 2007, 12:37 AM	#19
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mt Disappointment Posts: 33,325	Originally Posted by nails3jesus0 as long as we reduce emissions who cares if we get nuked? uh.... It's not reducing emissions that's the aim, it's avoiding a disaster due to enhanced global warming.
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25th March 2007, 02:09 AM	#20
strathmeyer seriously unable to be serious Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Posts: 2,382	Originally Posted by CFLarsen Are you saying that terrorism and global warming don't exist? Are you claiming they do without anything to back up your claims, thus your repeating yourself?

25th March 2007, 02:50 AM	#21
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by strathmeyer Are you claiming they do without anything to back up your claims, thus your repeating yourself? Of course terrorism and global warming exist. The question re. global warming is, is it due to humans? The evidence that it is, is mounting.
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25th March 2007, 04:49 AM	#22
Abdul Alhazred Yes, that one. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,476	Clarification: It is scientifically proven that there is global warming and that human activity has something to do with it. It is not proven that "the planet has a fever" or that there is a danger comparable to terrorism. Well if a demagogue told you your baby had a fever what would you do? Isn't it always about the children? Pure Pascal's Wager stuff. Any time a politician says "crisis" I know my freedom is in danger. Get it now?
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25th March 2007, 05:05 AM	#23
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Clarification: It is scientifically proven that there is global warming and that human activity has something to do with it. It is not proven that "the planet has a fever" or that there is a danger comparable to terrorism. What do you think the consequences of global warming will be? Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Well if a demagogue told you your baby had a fever what would you do? Isn't it always about the children? Pure Pascal's Wager stuff. Any time a politician says "crisis" I know my freedom is in danger. Get it now? That is positively paranoid. If you think politicians by default are untrustworthy, what do you suggest we put in their place? What about terrorism? Does that exist?
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25th March 2007, 05:39 AM	#25
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor 's Last time I checked, yes. It's not scaring the goats yet. I worry that the yogurt will taste sour if it ever does. DR I have absolutely no idea what that meant.
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25th March 2007, 05:54 AM	#26
Abdul Alhazred Yes, that one. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,476	Originally Posted by CFLarsen What do you think the consequences of global warming will be? Nothing we can't adapt to. As your countrymen are already doing. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=77816 An opportunity not a crisis. Originally Posted by CFLarsen That is positively paranoid. If you think politicians by default are untrustworthy, what do you suggest we put in their place? The Mafia, maybe? Originally Posted by CFLarsen What about terrorism? Does that exist? It was Al Gore who made that absurd comparison. Did you read what I wrote?
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25th March 2007, 06:11 AM	#27
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Nothing we can't adapt to. As your countrymen are already doing. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=77816 An opportunity not a crisis. I didn't ask if you thought we couldn't adapt to it. I asked you what you thought the consequences would be. Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred The Mafia, maybe? If you are going to treat your own posts like a joke, why should we take you seriously? What should we put in the place of politicians? Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred It was Al Gore who made that absurd comparison. Did you read what I wrote? Does terrorism exist?
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25th March 2007, 09:28 AM	#28
Abdul Alhazred Yes, that one. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,476	Your simple faith in politicians is touching.
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25th March 2007, 09:33 AM	#29
Abdul Alhazred Yes, that one. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,476	Yes terrorism exists and is a real problem. In fact a war. To be prosecuted as such in my opinion. Global warming is not, regardless of what is said by hysteria-mongering rich SOB politicians who want more power than their money can buy. Adapt as the need arises, preferably in a profitable way after the manner of your countrymen. OK? Are you being deliberately dense?
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25th March 2007, 10:52 AM	#30
skeptifem is not beauty 2K compliant Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,259	Originally Posted by a_unique_person It's not reducing emissions that's the aim, it's avoiding a disaster due to enhanced global warming. but who cares if we get nuked or a horrible bio terrorism disease infects everyone??? I dont see why its unimportant to try and keep people safe from terrorism. Its just a stupid comment on his part.
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25th March 2007, 10:55 AM	#31
ImaginalDisc Proactive Untwister of Octagonal Hippopotamus Pants Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 10,225	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Yes terrorism exists and is a real problem. In fact a war. To be prosecuted as such in my opinion. Global warming is not, regardless of what is said by hysteria-mongering rich SOB politicians who want more power than their money can buy. Adapt as the need arises, preferably in a profitable way after the manner of your countrymen. OK? Are you being deliberately dense? Wow, it seems as though some one has forgotten that for decades the people who have been seriously examining the global warming issue are scientists, not politicians, and that the debate about whether global warming is happening is over.
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25th March 2007, 10:59 AM	#32
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25th March 2007, 11:06 AM	#33
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Yes terrorism exists and is a real problem. In fact a war. To be prosecuted as such in my opinion. Global warming is not, regardless of what is said by hysteria-mongering rich SOB politicians who want more power than their money can buy. What about the scientists? Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Adapt as the need arises, preferably in a profitable way after the manner of your countrymen. What do you think the consequences are of global warming? How do we adapt? Is it not possible to predict what will happen, instead of waiting until it has happened? What should we put in the place of politicians?
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25th March 2007, 11:12 AM	#34
Kerberos Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,608	Originally Posted by Abdul Alhazred Yes terrorism exists and is a real problem. In fact a war. To be prosecuted as such in my opinion. Global warming is not, regardless of what is said by hysteria-mongering rich SOB politicians who want more power than their money can buy. Adapt as the need arises, preferably in a profitable way after the manner of your countrymen. OK? Are you being deliberately dense? So people in Africa who might face starvation because of clima change should start bickering with Canada over pieces of rock in the Arctics? Could you explain how that would help?
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25th March 2007, 11:20 AM	#35
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,255	Originally Posted by Kerberos So people in Africa who might face starvation because of clima change should start bickering with Canada over pieces of rock in the Arctics? Could you explain how that would help? According to the Atlantic Monthly's current article, the Darfur scrap of the moment is driven by two factors: population increase coupled with a climate change that makes the area less fertile/productive than it was a generation ago. The Africans don't have the transport necessary to get to the Arctic for a scrap with he Canadians . . . yet. DR
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