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RandFan · 27th March 2007, 06:14 PM

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RandFan · 27th March 2007, 07:01 PM

The YouTube link has been fixed.

RandFan · 27th March 2007, 07:03 PM

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jsfisher · 27th March 2007, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by RandFan

BTW, go here for all of the shows in the series.

This makes even Jesus cry.

Miss Anthrope · 27th March 2007, 07:11 PM

Now I understand--with crystal clarity--why it has been shown that atheists have higher IQ's than believers. My soon to be ten year old is certain this is a parody! There is no convincing her that this "film" could possibly be serious.

rdaneel · 27th March 2007, 07:12 PM

That was painful to watch, I almost wish I hadn't sent that PM about your link.

RandFan · 27th March 2007, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by rdaneel

That was painful to watch, I almost wish I hadn't sent that PM about your link.

Hey, we need to understand the S*** out there. I bought it hook line and sinker at one time.

Beanbag · 27th March 2007, 07:16 PM

Must be a common problem -- JesusFreak confuses abiogenisis with evolution, to.

Beanbag

DangerousBeliefs · 27th March 2007, 07:51 PM

Oh my dog. They really are that stupid.... really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Missler

(Chuck has a phD, by the way, so you better listen to him!)

Walk The Line · 27th March 2007, 07:58 PM

I thought this was going to be a parody of the Banana video with Kirk Cameron.

Boy was I wrong.

DangerousBeliefs · 27th March 2007, 08:00 PM

While still in high school, Chuck built a digital computer in the family garage. Source

Chuck met and married his wife in 1956... that means Chuck built a digital computer in his family garage in the early 50s or late 40s?

Does anybody else think this is an out and out lie? I mean, not that Chuck doesn't do a bit of that from time to time. But why something so blatantly obvious? Back then the computers were the size of garages!

Apathia · 27th March 2007, 08:03 PM

But you can get God from a jar of peanut butter: the God Pan!

"If you believve in peanut butter,
Clap your hands.
If you believe in peanut butter,
You believe in Peter Pan"

(Old Peter Pan brand peanut butter advertising jingle.)

jsfisher · 27th March 2007, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by DangerousBeliefs

While still in high school, Chuck built a digital computer in the family garage. Source

I didn't see the word "digital" in the cited reference. An analog computer is certainly within the realm of possibility. Also, the definition of computer being used in the article is probably a very loose one. A simple array of knife switches, a battery, wire, and a lamp that "computes" the safe or unsafe states for the farmer crossing the river with a chicken, fox, and corn (one at a time) could be called a computer.

Marquis de Carabas · 27th March 2007, 08:21 PM

Atheists must be terrified of Elvis.

edited to add link, just in case there's anyone reading who doesn't get it

Glen.Nogami · 27th March 2007, 08:34 PM

I...uh...

Okay.

So, Evolution=Spontaneous Generation, and

Spontaneous Generation != true.

Therefore I, and only I, am Socrates.

Lonewulf · 27th March 2007, 08:39 PM

...

Spontaneous Generation occurs in peanut butter? Is that the theory?

I swear, every time they come up with a new "Atheist's Nightmare!", I get nightmares. But from different sources than they may think.

Glen.Nogami · 27th March 2007, 08:54 PM

Yeah, that's what they think that evolution means. Life arose from nothing, with lightning! I'd point them to, say, The Selfish Gene, but somehow I doubt that it'd receive much consideration.

Miss Anthrope · 27th March 2007, 09:11 PM

The only knowledge of science literature such as The Selfish Gene YEC'ers have is that it seems to appear on a list of books that they should give bad reviews about on Amazon without actually reading them.

Jorghnassen · 27th March 2007, 09:11 PM

I'm an atheist and I admit, peanut butter is a nightmare to me... that is, I am allergic to it.

Dark Jaguar · 27th March 2007, 09:21 PM

It seems that the idea of abiogenesis needs to be broken down to "matter and energy makes life, EVERY SINGLE TIME, no matter WHICH matter it is, because we all know we scientists never got any more specific than that" in order to find a flaw in it.

Well sure if you get the details completely wrong, or absent, then you may find problems in the theory.

I was looking in a drawer for some stamps and found an old book from my old worldview I had forgotten about called "The ANSWERS Book" (with, apparently, magical Hello Kitty stickers on it, don't ask). It's a book that claims to answer 12 questions about creationism. Really, scanning the thing I'm sickened at this point that I ever found the arguments rational. However, it's very much lacking in any real details or evidence. That's the only side of evolution I was exposed to though... At any rate, I'm reading it again just to actually research the insane claims it makes. It is fairly old (not much, it's just from the 1990's), but old enough to notice that nothing has changed at all. It's the same tired arguments we hear today. Nothing new at all.

polkablues · 27th March 2007, 10:01 PM

I've been inspired by Chuck Missler's airtight logic. Here's my hypothesis: scientists claim that cars start when you put the key in the ignition and turn it. However, when I put my car key in a jar of peanut butter and turn it, NOTHING HAPPENS. Therefore, only God can start a car and internal combustion is a fairy tale.

Miss Anthrope · 27th March 2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by polkablues

I've been inspired by Chuck Missler's airtight logic. Here's my hypothesis: scientists claim that cars start when you put the key in the ignition and turn it. However, when I put my car key in a jar of peanut butter and turn it, NOTHING HAPPENS. Therefore, only God can start a car and internal combustion is a fairy tale.

Beautiful analogy!

Dark Jaguar · 28th March 2007, 12:13 AM

Except you should replace the actual car key with one of those big plastic toy keys.

thaiboxerken · 28th March 2007, 12:19 AM

Wow. Just.. wow. That's great comedy.

slingblade · 28th March 2007, 12:39 AM

I've been exposed to light and heat, and new life came from me.

Twice!

And I fed them both peanut butter. There's definitely a message in that somwhere.

thaiboxerken · 28th March 2007, 12:48 AM

Evilutionists say that life evolves new traits to deal with it's environment. Well, in my three decades of life, I haven't seen any new mutations that help me play xbox better.

Hokulele · 28th March 2007, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

Evilutionists say that life evolves new traits to deal with it's environment. Well, in my three decades of life, I haven't seen any new mutations that help me play xbox better.

No, no, no, no, no! It is the xbox that is evolving.

The Atheist · 28th March 2007, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by Miss Anthrope

Now I understand--with crystal clarity--why it has been shown that atheists have higher IQ's than believers.

Agree. Anyone even thinking about the merest possibility that that festering pile of dung might be real is either insane, or seriously lacking in grey matter.

Originally Posted by Miss Anthrope

My soon to be ten year old is certain this is a parody! There is no convincing her that this "film" could possibly be serious.

I can beat that - my 7 1/2 year old daughter just watched it and was laughing her head off saying, "that's so dumb!"

Thank god I'm an atheist.

Miss Anthrope · 28th March 2007, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by The Atheist

Agree. Anyone even thinking about the merest possibility that that festering pile of dung might be real is either insane, or seriously lacking in grey matter.

I can beat that - my 7 1/2 year old daughter just watched it and was laughing her head off saying, "that's so dumb!"

Thank god I'm an atheist.

Three cheers for educated kids!

sir drinks-a-lot · 28th March 2007, 08:51 AM

I don't get it. I mean I get that fact that it is not a spoof, but do you think he is really that dumb? Or is he just trying to make money off the gullible?

thaiboxerken · 28th March 2007, 09:03 AM

It's probably both, sir-drunkard.

bobcarp · 28th March 2007, 09:13 AM

that guy is nuttier than the jar of peanut butter which he is holding.

PrincessIneffabelle · 28th March 2007, 09:19 AM

Yet they are unusually quiet on the subject of jelly.

Miss Anthrope · 28th March 2007, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

I don't get it. I mean I get that fact that it is not a spoof, but do you think he is really that dumb? Or is he just trying to make money off the gullible?

I don't think the point of this videos is profit in a direct way. These people have to defend their religion at all costs. If people start accepting established science and realize it's all hooey, their entire way of life is gone.

This is grasping at straws to justify religious belief.

It's also really, really lame.

Miss Anthrope · 28th March 2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by DmKrispin

Yet they are unusually quiet on the subject of jelly.

You never fail to make me spew my coffee......

thaiboxerken · 28th March 2007, 10:02 AM

Your coffee is hot, it has chemicals in it.. yet no life is spontaneously emerging. How is that possible if abiogenesis is right?

thaiboxerken · 28th March 2007, 10:06 AM

I have to wonder if http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8MDNFaGfT4 is the inspiration for these creationist arguments.

hgc · 28th March 2007, 10:10 AM

OK, saw the thread title and just assumed this was a Way of the Master thing. You see, Kirk and the mustache man say that the banana is proof of God's design. And what's the best damn food combo in God's creation? That's right: peanut butter and banana.

Miss Anthrope · 28th March 2007, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by hgc

OK, saw the thread title and just assumed this was a Way of the Master thing. You see, Kirk and the mustache man say that the banana is proof of God's design. And what's the best damn food combo in God's creation? That's right: peanut butter and banana.

Ha! I was thinking of something much kinkier

Charlie Monoxide · 28th March 2007, 10:30 AM

Wow, I'm impressed. I'm totally convinced. How could I have been so wrong about believing in evolution? The answer was sitting in my fridge all this time (I love all natural peanut butter, and store it in the fridge after opening).

Charlie (praise jeebus, I've seen the light) Monoxide

27th March 2007, 07:01 PM	#2
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27th March 2007, 07:03 PM	#3
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27th March 2007, 07:06 PM	#4
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,621	Originally Posted by RandFan BTW, go here for all of the shows in the series. This makes even Jesus cry.
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27th March 2007, 07:11 PM	#5
Miss Anthrope All your post are belong to us Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: A Tiny Oasis in the PNW Posts: 3,597	Now I understand--with crystal clarity--why it has been shown that atheists have higher IQ's than believers. My soon to be ten year old is certain this is a parody! There is no convincing her that this "film" could possibly be serious.
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27th March 2007, 07:12 PM	#6
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27th March 2007, 07:16 PM	#7
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 53,955	Originally Posted by rdaneel That was painful to watch, I almost wish I hadn't sent that PM about your link. Hey, we need to understand the S*** out there. I bought it hook line and sinker at one time.
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27th March 2007, 07:16 PM	#8
Beanbag Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dallas/Fort Worth Posts: 2,709	Must be a common problem -- JesusFreak confuses abiogenisis with evolution, to. Beanbag

27th March 2007, 07:51 PM	#9
DangerousBeliefs Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,304	Oh my dog. They really are that stupid.... really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Missler (Chuck has a phD, by the way, so you better listen to him!)
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27th March 2007, 07:58 PM	#10
Walk The Line We ARE Virginia Tech Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 936	I thought this was going to be a parody of the Banana video with Kirk Cameron. Boy was I wrong.

27th March 2007, 08:00 PM	#11
DangerousBeliefs Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,304	While still in high school, Chuck built a digital computer in the family garage. Source Chuck met and married his wife in 1956... that means Chuck built a digital computer in his family garage in the early 50s or late 40s? Does anybody else think this is an out and out lie? I mean, not that Chuck doesn't do a bit of that from time to time. But why something so blatantly obvious? Back then the computers were the size of garages!
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27th March 2007, 08:03 PM	#12
Apathia Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 2,943	But you can get God from a jar of peanut butter: the God Pan! "If you believve in peanut butter, Clap your hands. If you believe in peanut butter, You believe in Peter Pan" (Old Peter Pan brand peanut butter advertising jingle.)
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27th March 2007, 08:16 PM	#13
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,621	Originally Posted by DangerousBeliefs While still in high school, Chuck built a digital computer in the family garage. Source I didn't see the word "digital" in the cited reference. An analog computer is certainly within the realm of possibility. Also, the definition of computer being used in the article is probably a very loose one. A simple array of knife switches, a battery, wire, and a lamp that "computes" the safe or unsafe states for the farmer crossing the river with a chicken, fox, and corn (one at a time) could be called a computer.
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27th March 2007, 08:21 PM	#14
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27th March 2007, 08:34 PM	#15
Glen.Nogami Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 495	I...uh... Okay. So, Evolution=Spontaneous Generation, and Spontaneous Generation != true. Therefore I, and only I, am Socrates.
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27th March 2007, 08:39 PM	#16
Lonewulf Humanistic Cyborg Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,380	... Spontaneous Generation occurs in peanut butter? Is that the theory? I swear, every time they come up with a new "Atheist's Nightmare!", I get nightmares. But from different sources than they may think.
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27th March 2007, 08:54 PM	#17
Glen.Nogami Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 495	Yeah, that's what they think that evolution means. Life arose from nothing, with lightning! I'd point them to, say, The Selfish Gene, but somehow I doubt that it'd receive much consideration.
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27th March 2007, 09:11 PM	#18
Miss Anthrope All your post are belong to us Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: A Tiny Oasis in the PNW Posts: 3,597	The only knowledge of science literature such as The Selfish Gene YEC'ers have is that it seems to appear on a list of books that they should give bad reviews about on Amazon without actually reading them.
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27th March 2007, 09:11 PM	#19
Jorghnassen Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The realm of ideas Posts: 3,884	I'm an atheist and I admit, peanut butter is a nightmare to me... that is, I am allergic to it.
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27th March 2007, 09:21 PM	#20
Dark Jaguar Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,666	It seems that the idea of abiogenesis needs to be broken down to "matter and energy makes life, EVERY SINGLE TIME, no matter WHICH matter it is, because we all know we scientists never got any more specific than that" in order to find a flaw in it. Well sure if you get the details completely wrong, or absent, then you may find problems in the theory. I was looking in a drawer for some stamps and found an old book from my old worldview I had forgotten about called "The ANSWERS Book" (with, apparently, magical Hello Kitty stickers on it, don't ask). It's a book that claims to answer 12 questions about creationism. Really, scanning the thing I'm sickened at this point that I ever found the arguments rational. However, it's very much lacking in any real details or evidence. That's the only side of evolution I was exposed to though... At any rate, I'm reading it again just to actually research the insane claims it makes. It is fairly old (not much, it's just from the 1990's), but old enough to notice that nothing has changed at all. It's the same tired arguments we hear today. Nothing new at all.
	Last edited by Dark Jaguar; 27th March 2007 at 09:26 PM.

27th March 2007, 10:01 PM	#21
polkablues Student Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: location, location Posts: 47	I've been inspired by Chuck Missler's airtight logic. Here's my hypothesis: scientists claim that cars start when you put the key in the ignition and turn it. However, when I put my car key in a jar of peanut butter and turn it, NOTHING HAPPENS. Therefore, only God can start a car and internal combustion is a fairy tale.

27th March 2007, 10:03 PM	#22
Miss Anthrope All your post are belong to us Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: A Tiny Oasis in the PNW Posts: 3,597	Originally Posted by polkablues I've been inspired by Chuck Missler's airtight logic. Here's my hypothesis: scientists claim that cars start when you put the key in the ignition and turn it. However, when I put my car key in a jar of peanut butter and turn it, NOTHING HAPPENS. Therefore, only God can start a car and internal combustion is a fairy tale. Beautiful analogy!
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28th March 2007, 12:13 AM	#23
Dark Jaguar Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,666	Except you should replace the actual car key with one of those big plastic toy keys.

28th March 2007, 12:19 AM	#24
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,076	Wow. Just.. wow. That's great comedy.
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28th March 2007, 12:39 AM	#25
slingblade Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,642	I've been exposed to light and heat, and new life came from me. Twice! And I fed them both peanut butter. There's definitely a message in that somwhere.
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28th March 2007, 12:48 AM	#26
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,076	Evilutionists say that life evolves new traits to deal with it's environment. Well, in my three decades of life, I haven't seen any new mutations that help me play xbox better.
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28th March 2007, 12:49 AM	#27
Hokulele Official Nemesis Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Trying to decide whether to set defenses against an army, or against mole rats. Posts: 27,348	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken Evilutionists say that life evolves new traits to deal with it's environment. Well, in my three decades of life, I haven't seen any new mutations that help me play xbox better. No, no, no, no, no! It is the xbox that is evolving.
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28th March 2007, 01:18 AM	#28
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Within smelling distance of the Grammar Death Camps Posts: 13,928	Originally Posted by Miss Anthrope Now I understand--with crystal clarity--why it has been shown that atheists have higher IQ's than believers. Agree. Anyone even thinking about the merest possibility that that festering pile of dung might be real is either insane, or seriously lacking in grey matter. Originally Posted by Miss Anthrope My soon to be ten year old is certain this is a parody! There is no convincing her that this "film" could possibly be serious. I can beat that - my 7 1/2 year old daughter just watched it and was laughing her head off saying, "that's so dumb!" Thank god I'm an atheist.
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28th March 2007, 08:48 AM	#29
Miss Anthrope All your post are belong to us Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: A Tiny Oasis in the PNW Posts: 3,597	Originally Posted by The Atheist Agree. Anyone even thinking about the merest possibility that that festering pile of dung might be real is either insane, or seriously lacking in grey matter. I can beat that - my 7 1/2 year old daughter just watched it and was laughing her head off saying, "that's so dumb!" Thank god I'm an atheist. Three cheers for educated kids!
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28th March 2007, 08:51 AM	#30
sir drinks-a-lot Muse Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cole Valley, CA Posts: 616	I don't get it. I mean I get that fact that it is not a spoof, but do you think he is really that dumb? Or is he just trying to make money off the gullible?
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28th March 2007, 09:03 AM	#31
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,076	It's probably both, sir-drunkard.
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28th March 2007, 09:13 AM	#32
bobcarp Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 252	that guy is nuttier than the jar of peanut butter which he is holding.
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28th March 2007, 09:19 AM	#33
PrincessIneffabelle I'm not godless, I'm god-free Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,421	Yet they are unusually quiet on the subject of jelly.
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28th March 2007, 09:47 AM	#34
Miss Anthrope All your post are belong to us Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: A Tiny Oasis in the PNW Posts: 3,597	Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot I don't get it. I mean I get that fact that it is not a spoof, but do you think he is really that dumb? Or is he just trying to make money off the gullible? I don't think the point of this videos is profit in a direct way. These people have to defend their religion at all costs. If people start accepting established science and realize it's all hooey, their entire way of life is gone. This is grasping at straws to justify religious belief. It's also really, really lame.
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28th March 2007, 09:49 AM	#35
Miss Anthrope All your post are belong to us Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: A Tiny Oasis in the PNW Posts: 3,597	Originally Posted by DmKrispin Yet they are unusually quiet on the subject of jelly. You never fail to make me spew my coffee......
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28th March 2007, 10:02 AM	#36
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,076	Your coffee is hot, it has chemicals in it.. yet no life is spontaneously emerging. How is that possible if abiogenesis is right?
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