Successful ambition card routine

thaiboxerken · 31st March 2007, 05:14 PM

I just did a successful ambitious card routing to some some other bar-patrons sitting here at the bar (wifi is cool). Anyway, I finished the routine but was a bit put off by a guy who looked cynical, like he knew or saw exactly what I was doing. It disturbed me a bit, until he took the deck of cards from my hand after it was over and looked to find that it was a trick deck.. which it was not. It was very much a satisfying feeling. I love doing magic!

firecoins · 31st March 2007, 09:23 PM

I did two effects on stage, one with a gimmicked deck and one with a normal deck in mnemonic order. The guys asked to see the deck in mnemonic order whioch was fine because it was a normal deck with a random appearence. It helped strengthen both effect because there was nothing for him to find.

thaiboxerken · 1st April 2007, 01:03 AM

I confused a guy with the "Invisible Deck" effect in much the same way, I did a deck-switch to prove to him that the deck was not gaffed. That was a fun thing to do as well.

JPK · 1st April 2007, 11:04 AM

Good afternoon.
At the rate I'm going, I will probably be confident enough in my d/l and p*** in about 10 years to actually try it for someone.
It's pretty sad that I just recently decided to start working with cards. Should have started this 35 years ago.
JPK

NeilC · 23rd April 2007, 05:14 AM

As an adult you have one big advantage over younger people and that is calmness and organisation. I actually find learning some things easier now I'm older. Unlearning bad habits is WAY harder than learning from scratch. This is one thing magic taught me - the quality of practice is more important than the quantity. No point in doing 1000 DL's badly - all it teaches you is to do it badly. Younger people have a problem grasping this, well I did anyway.

Re: DLs. I gave up bothering trying to do strike or other no-get-ready DLs ages ago. These days I just structure the the handling to provide a get ready. 90% of the time this involves me saying something like "...somewhere in the deck.." and spreading the cards a bit, get a b**** and it's done. No fumbling, no sleight-guilt. Under fire I find the certainty to be worth a lot.

firecoins · 23rd April 2007, 10:20 AM

you don't need a p--- to do a good ambitious card routine. I don't do a p--- but have a decent routine. True having a p--- makes it better.

Brown · 23rd April 2007, 12:22 PM

Let me recommend trying Larry Jennings's "Ambitious Classic." Basically, you do a couple of ambitious card moves with the full deck, then say something like: "There's too many cards."

So you pull five cards out of the deck (say, the ace through five of spades) and do it with five: You push a card into the middle of the packet (and show it explicitly going into the packet), but then suddenly that card appears on the top of the packet. But there's still too many cards, so you set one card aside and do it again with four cards. And so on. As you eliminate cards, there are some variations in the presentation, and the mystery deepens. When you finally get down to the last card, you turn it over and the spectators see that it isn't one of the five cards you started with.

This is not a "packet trick" in the sense that any of the cards is gaffed. They are authentic cards that can be pulled out of a borrowed deck and the trick can be performed impromptu.

The moves are all pretty easy. The only one that requires quite a bit of practice to perform confidently is the block push-off.

31st March 2007, 05:14 PM	#1
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 13,273	Successful ambition card routine I just did a successful ambitious card routing to some some other bar-patrons sitting here at the bar (wifi is cool). Anyway, I finished the routine but was a bit put off by a guy who looked cynical, like he knew or saw exactly what I was doing. It disturbed me a bit, until he took the deck of cards from my hand after it was over and looked to find that it was a trick deck.. which it was not. It was very much a satisfying feeling. I love doing magic!
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31st March 2007, 09:23 PM	#2
firecoins Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 3,054	I did two effects on stage, one with a gimmicked deck and one with a normal deck in mnemonic order. The guys asked to see the deck in mnemonic order whioch was fine because it was a normal deck with a random appearence. It helped strengthen both effect because there was nothing for him to find.
	__________________ NY Paramedic, skeptic, 9/11/01 Reality-ist. I am both right wing nut and left wing lunatic. Deal with it.

1st April 2007, 01:03 AM	#3
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 13,273	I confused a guy with the "Invisible Deck" effect in much the same way, I did a deck-switch to prove to him that the deck was not gaffed. That was a fun thing to do as well.
	__________________ All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power & profit - Thomas Paine

1st April 2007, 11:04 AM	#4
JPK Muse Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 963	Good afternoon. At the rate I'm going, I will probably be confident enough in my d/l and p*** in about 10 years to actually try it for someone. It's pretty sad that I just recently decided to start working with cards. Should have started this 35 years ago. JPK
JPK Muse Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 963	__________________ "I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier... A belief's a dangerous thing. People die for it. People kill for it." Rufus, the 13th apostle, Dogma "You can't prove air." Sylvia Browne www.StopSylvia.com John Kardel

23rd April 2007, 10:20 AM	#6
firecoins Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 3,054	you don't need a p--- to do a good ambitious card routine. I don't do a p--- but have a decent routine. True having a p--- makes it better.
	__________________ NY Paramedic, skeptic, 9/11/01 Reality-ist. I am both right wing nut and left wing lunatic. Deal with it.

23rd April 2007, 05:14 AM	#5
NeilC Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,085	As an adult you have one big advantage over younger people and that is calmness and organisation. I actually find learning some things easier now I'm older. Unlearning bad habits is WAY harder than learning from scratch. This is one thing magic taught me - the quality of practice is more important than the quantity. No point in doing 1000 DL's badly - all it teaches you is to do it badly. Younger people have a problem grasping this, well I did anyway. Re: DLs. I gave up bothering trying to do strike or other no-get-ready DLs ages ago. These days I just structure the the handling to provide a get ready. 90% of the time this involves me saying something like "...somewhere in the deck.." and spreading the cards a bit, get a b**** and it's done. No fumbling, no sleight-guilt. Under fire I find the certainty to be worth a lot.

23rd April 2007, 12:22 PM	#7
Brown Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Twin Cities, Canada Posts: 9,025	Let me recommend trying Larry Jennings's "Ambitious Classic." Basically, you do a couple of ambitious card moves with the full deck, then say something like: "There's too many cards." So you pull five cards out of the deck (say, the ace through five of spades) and do it with five: You push a card into the middle of the packet (and show it explicitly going into the packet), but then suddenly that card appears on the top of the packet. But there's still too many cards, so you set one card aside and do it again with four cards. And so on. As you eliminate cards, there are some variations in the presentation, and the mystery deepens. When you finally get down to the last card, you turn it over and the spectators see that it isn't one of the five cards you started with. This is not a "packet trick" in the sense that any of the cards is gaffed. They are authentic cards that can be pulled out of a borrowed deck and the trick can be performed impromptu. The moves are all pretty easy. The only one that requires quite a bit of practice to perform confidently is the block push-off.
	__________________ Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it. Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I am very sorry. I wish it were otherwise. -- The Day The Earth Stood Still, screenplay by Edmund H. North "Don't you get me wrong. I only want to know." -- Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar, lyrics by Tim Rice