Imus be an idiot . . .

Mephisto · 9th April 2007, 11:06 AM

. . . if I thought calling a primarily Black, girl's basketball team, "nappy-headed ho's," wouldn't be interpreted as racist!

I guess he wasn't smart enough to learn from Michael Richard's mistakes.

Quote:

Imus: 'Embarrassed' by racial comments

POSTED: 12:10 p.m. EDT, April 9, 2007

NEW YORK (AP) -- Calling himself "a good person" who made a bad mistake, radio host Don Imus said Monday he would check his acid tongue after being lambasted for making racially charged comments about the Rutgers University women's basketball team.

"Here's what I've learned: that you can't make fun of everybody, because some people don't deserve it," he said on his nationally syndicated radio show Monday morning. "And because the climate on this program has been what it's been for 30 years doesn't mean it's going to be what it's been for the next five years or whatever."

Imus said he was "embarrassed" by the remarks, in which he referred to the mostly black team as "nappy-headed hos." He said he had made the comments in the course of "trying to be funny," but he was not trying to excuse them.

"I'm not a bad person. I'm a good person, but I said a bad thing. But these young women deserve to know it was not said with malice," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html

No malice, huh? I guess he wouldn't be offended if from now on he's seen as a nappy-headed honkie.

corplinx · 9th April 2007, 11:18 AM

The Imus thing seemed like he was victim of a slow news day. Yet another non-issue getting turned into news fodder.

Yawn.

Does anyone really care what a washed up DJ says?

Lonewulf · 9th April 2007, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

No malice, huh? I guess he wouldn't be offended if from now on he's seen as a nappy-headed honkie.

I honestly find it hard to be insulted by the term "honkie".

I'd also add that "ho" doesn't really refer to skin color, but instead to a particular style of sexual preference.

I.E., the type that involves cash.

Mephisto · 9th April 2007, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by corplinx

The Imus thing seemed like he was victim of a slow news day. Yet another non-issue getting turned into news fodder.

Yes, much like Michael Richards was guilty of an unhumorous, comedy act.

Originally Posted by corplinx

Does anyone really care what a washed up DJ says?

Only the African-American ladies on the Rutger basketball team, Jesse Jackson, thousands of people in the NAACP, Allison Gollust, a spokeswoman for MSNBC, Karen Mateo, a spokeswoman for CBS Radio and last, but not least, the Reverend Al Sharpton. Oh yeah, and a handful of Americans who are getting tired of racist remarks being made and then expediently apologized for by idiots.

headscratcher4 · 9th April 2007, 11:34 AM

Maybe a slow news day, but he called a losing woman's basketball team from a good school -- Rutgers -- some "nappy-headed ho's." Now, what did they do to deserve that? They just played and lost a basketball game. They weren't politicians, or public figures, just some young women playing basketball -- and at a level far higher than someone like Imus could ever have aspired to.

"Nappy-headed"? Come on, he had to have known/understood the racial content of it. So, on top of insulting some kids who don't have a national audience so that they can defend themselves, Imus introduced race AND Sex (by calling them hos).

How would you feel if you were that team? How would you feel if you were those girl's mothers/fathers and family.

He shouldn't be fired. He should, however, have to meet these young ladies and try to explain to them his humor, why it was funny, what is so funny about their loss, their play, their efforts, etc.

He's a sad man.

Upchurch · 9th April 2007, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by headscratcher4

He shouldn't be fired.

I dunno. I wouldn't go so far as to advocate him being fired, but if I were his boss, I'd be thinking long and hard about whether or not I'd want to continue paying him.

corplinx · 9th April 2007, 11:41 AM

Are we this oversensitive as a culture? Mind you, I don't like Don Imus.

This is the official non-issue of the day.

corplinx · 9th April 2007, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by headscratcher4

How would you feel if you were that team? How would you feel if you were those girl's mothers/fathers and family.

I doubt they heard the original remark with the numbers he's pulling these days.

HS, why the "cry me a river" defense? Noone is free from insult. Even if they just lost the big game.

corplinx · 9th April 2007, 11:46 AM

http://nappyhairaffair.com/
http://www.nappystories.com/

My god, this man is Hitler.

SezMe · 9th April 2007, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

Only the African-American ladies on the Rutger basketball team, Jesse Jackson, thousands of people in the NAACP, Allison Gollust, a spokeswoman for MSNBC, Karen Mateo, a spokeswoman for CBS Radio and last, but not least, the Reverend Al Sharpton.

"...but not least ... Sharpton"? What does that mean? I don't know most of the other people on that list but Sharpton stands out to me as one of the most racist "media commentators" there is. The man is an embarrasssment.

corplinx · 9th April 2007, 11:53 AM

Sharpton had Imus on his radio show today to say he's sorry. Score a nice ratings day for the Rev. Al.

JPK · 9th April 2007, 11:53 AM

Good afternoon.

I admit that I have never found Imus funny, but it is supossed to be a comedy show, and therefore should not really be taken seriously. I'm pretty sure most radios have several options for dealing with things like this like changing the station or turning them off .
JPK

corplinx · 9th April 2007, 11:59 AM

More interesting to me, can anyone find who started this self perpetuating story? Who originally got their panties in a bunch and started this weird dogpile on Imus? Theres the real story.

Nappy was harmless until Wednesday of last week. Nappy nappy nappy.

Mephisto · 9th April 2007, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by SezMe

"...but not least ... Sharpton"? What does that mean? I don't know most of the other people on that list but Sharpton stands out to me as one of the most racist "media commentators" there is. The man is an embarrasssment.

That's why I put him last, I didn't want to say least, but while his opinion isn't important to many people who think - he's still a spokesman for many African -Americans.

Mephisto · 9th April 2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by corplinx

Nappy was harmless until Wednesday of last week. Nappy nappy nappy.

Whether you realize it or not, nappy was always derogitory remark when applied to African-Americans.

corplinx · 9th April 2007, 12:07 PM

I just walked over and consulted the advice of two guys I work with. Apparently, nappy is a racial slur when used by a white person because white people don't have nappy hair.

Mephisto · 9th April 2007, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Lonewulf

I'd also add that "ho" doesn't really refer to skin color, but instead to a particular style of sexual preference.

It's Black slang for a prostitute - what did young women playing basketball do to deserve that title?

Katana · 9th April 2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

Whether you realize it or not, nappy was always derogitory remark when applied to African-Americans.

As opposed to the rest of us?

Mephisto, you call me (or any part of moi) nappy, and you may meet the acquaintance of my blade.

BPSCG · 9th April 2007, 12:09 PM

Did anyone else catch this?

Quote:

"Here's what I've learned: that you can't make fun of everybody,

Okay, who can you make fun of? Obviously, politicians and entertainers. Who else?

Oh, fat guys and bald guys, too.

Anyone else?

Mephisto · 9th April 2007, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by corplinx

I just walked over and consulted the advice of two guys I work with. Apparently, nappy is a racial slur when used by a white person because white people don't have nappy hair.

It's certainly a racial slur when used by a White DJ to describe African-American women.

corplinx · 9th April 2007, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

Whether you realize it or not, nappy was always derogitory remark when applied to African-Americans.

Its hard to imagine it being racist when I heard it at the school lunch table nearly every day to hear some kid describe another kid's gramma. I was one of two Caucasians in my eighth grade class. It was a word that I never took heat for using in the lunchtime "repartee" known as "checking".

However, I prodded some black co-workers who went to some of the schools in my district. They replied "times have changed".

Mephisto · 9th April 2007, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Katana

As opposed to the rest of us?

Mephisto, you call me (or any part of moi) nappy, and you may meet the acquaintance of my blade.

Unless I'm referring to someone's penchant for siestas during the hottest part of the day, I would NEVER use the word nappy.

And I'm smart enough NOT to make the acquaintance of your blade.

The Central Scrutinizer · 9th April 2007, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by corplinx

Sharpton had Imus on his radio show today to say he's sorry. Score a nice ratings day for the Rev. Al.

Which is ultimately what it is all about.

The Central Scrutinizer · 9th April 2007, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

That's why I put him last, I didn't want to say least, but while his opinion isn't important to many people who think - he's still a spokesman for many African -Americans.

None that I know. Bring his name up in conversation, and you'll get a lot of eye rolling.

headscratcher4 · 9th April 2007, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by corplinx

HS, why the "cry me a river" defense? Noone is free from insult. Even if they just lost the big game.

No, no one is free from being insulted. But just because you can, should you?

Was it funny?

It was sad, is all. Would you want Imus to call your daughter a ho on national radio? They didn't put themsleves into the public sphere, Imus did.

Because we can act like 10 year olds, doesn't mean we should. That's all.

As I said I don't think he should be fired. I hope he'll be more thoughtful, he doesn't have to, however.

Fortunately, one great thing about this country is I don't have to listen to him...I can turn the radio to another station...

Upchurch · 9th April 2007, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

Oh, fat guys and bald guys, too.

HEY!

Mephisto · 9th April 2007, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by corplinx

Its hard to imagine it being racist when I heard it at the school lunch table nearly every day to hear some kid describe another kid's gramma. I was one of two Caucasians in my eighth grade class. It was a word that I never took heat for using in the lunchtime "repartee" known as "checking".

I remember "checking" or "playing the dozens," in school. It was usually between friends and anything was fair game. Stepping out of the friendly circle to play usually meant "fighting words."

Quote:

However, I prodded some black co-workers who went to some of the schools in my district. They replied "times have changed".

Times have changed and I would like to think for the better. We should at least be cognizant of the words that might hurt others. Especially if we are on national radio.

King of the Americas · 9th April 2007, 12:40 PM

I watch and listen to Imus occasionally.

He is usually dry, thoughtful, boring, and now and again he can ask a pointed question or two toward a political guest. But those moments are few and far between.

To me, he seems like an aging radio DJ striving to remain relivent... He isn't as 'shocking' as he used to be, thus his MSNBC TV show.

He is less of a comedy guy, and more of a news guy.

His show is usually a bunch of old white guys, talking about stuff that yung people find boring.

When he was young, 'racist' slang stuff was hip and cool to use. Some people can still get away with it, without being tared and feathered.

Imus just missed the cut...

casebro · 9th April 2007, 01:15 PM

All part of the current fad of having two 'personalities' in a spat. Trump/ Rosie. O'Rielly/Rosie. Imus/Sharpton. Did you catch O'Reilly and Geraldo last night? All good for the ratings of each 'personality'.

steverino · 9th April 2007, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by casebro

All part of the current fad of having two 'personalities' in a spat. Trump/ Rosie.

You mean the the WASP and the bull-dyke?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

STEVIE WONDER LYRICS

"I Wish"

Looking back on when I
Was a little nappy headed boy
Then my only worry
Was for Christmas what would be my toy
Even though we sometimes
Would not get a thing
We were happy with the
Joy the day would bring

hgc · 9th April 2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by steverino

You mean the the WASP and the bull-dyke?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

STEVIE WONDER LYRICS

"I Wish"

Looking back on when I
Was a little nappy headed boy
Then my only worry
Was for Christmas what would be my toy
Even though we sometimes
Would not get a thing
We were happy with the
Joy the day would bring

I love that song. Just running through the melody in my mind makes me smile.

Tricky · 9th April 2007, 01:49 PM

I strongly object to the title of this thread. It might look as if it were intended as a joke, but was obviously meant as a slur on the speech patterns of African-Americans. Punning the word "mus" for must and use of the infinitive "be" instead of "is" makes it quite obvious that Mephisto is willing to insult a whole ethnicity in order to make his little joke. Sho 'nuff.

The Central Scrutinizer · 9th April 2007, 01:59 PM

I like how he calls politicians "fat bastards". And those are the ones he likes!

BPSCG · 9th April 2007, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by headscratcher4

No, no one is free from being insulted. But just because you can, should you?

Muslims are.

aerosolben · 9th April 2007, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

Muslims are.

Muslims are stupid.

...when should I expect the Men in Black to show up?

Beerina · 9th April 2007, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

I dunno. I wouldn't go so far as to advocate him being fired, but if I were his boss, I'd be thinking long and hard about whether or not I'd want to continue paying him.

And knowing his ratings have probably skyrocketted the past few days?

RichardR · 9th April 2007, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

Whether you realize it or not, nappy was always derogitory remark when applied to African-Americans.

Could you please explain that for us Brits? In the UK a nappy is a diaper. Apart from that I'm having trouble understanding what he meant.

"Ho", I understand, although I didn't realize it was race specific.

Beerina · 9th April 2007, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by SezMe

"...but not least ... Sharpton"? What does that mean?

It is kind of like saying, "...but not least...Shemp, mounting a goat," isn't it?

fuelair · 9th April 2007, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mephisto

Yes, much like Michael Richards was guilty of an unhumorous, comedy act.

Only the African-American ladies on the Rutger basketball team, Jesse Jackson, thousands of people in the NAACP, Allison Gollust, a spokeswoman for MSNBC, Karen Mateo, a spokeswoman for CBS Radio and last, but not least, the Reverend Al Sharpton. Oh yeah, and a handful of Americans who are getting tired of racist remarks being made and then expediently apologized for by idiots.

If Jackson and Sharpton were removed from that list
I would have no trouble agreeing with it. I haven't cared what either of them thought in a long time - and I am not likely ever to again.

196 · 9th April 2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by RichardR

Could you please explain that for us Brits? In the UK a nappy is a diaper.

"Nappy" is used as an adjective to describe very curly African hair that is left in its natural, curly state. The hair takes on a unique texture. The term is used derisively because it is associated with a person not "maintaining" his or her hair (e.g. combing it out, chemically relaxing it, putting it into braids, etc.).

9th April 2007, 11:06 AM	#1
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Imus be an idiot . . . . . . if I thought calling a primarily Black, girl's basketball team, "nappy-headed ho's," wouldn't be interpreted as racist! I guess he wasn't smart enough to learn from Michael Richard's mistakes. Quote: Imus: 'Embarrassed' by racial comments POSTED: 12:10 p.m. EDT, April 9, 2007 NEW YORK (AP) -- Calling himself "a good person" who made a bad mistake, radio host Don Imus said Monday he would check his acid tongue after being lambasted for making racially charged comments about the Rutgers University women's basketball team. "Here's what I've learned: that you can't make fun of everybody, because some people don't deserve it," he said on his nationally syndicated radio show Monday morning. "And because the climate on this program has been what it's been for 30 years doesn't mean it's going to be what it's been for the next five years or whatever." Imus said he was "embarrassed" by the remarks, in which he referred to the mostly black team as "nappy-headed hos." He said he had made the comments in the course of "trying to be funny," but he was not trying to excuse them. "I'm not a bad person. I'm a good person, but I said a bad thing. But these young women deserve to know it was not said with malice," he said. http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html No malice, huh? I guess he wouldn't be offended if from now on he's seen as a nappy-headed honkie.
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corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,932	The Imus thing seemed like he was victim of a slow news day. Yet another non-issue getting turned into news fodder. Yawn. Does anyone really care what a washed up DJ says?
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Lonewulf Humanistic Cyborg Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,379	Originally Posted by Mephisto No malice, huh? I guess he wouldn't be offended if from now on he's seen as a nappy-headed honkie. I honestly find it hard to be insulted by the term "honkie". I'd also add that "ho" doesn't really refer to skin color, but instead to a particular style of sexual preference. I.E., the type that involves cash.
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9th April 2007, 11:27 AM	#4
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by corplinx The Imus thing seemed like he was victim of a slow news day. Yet another non-issue getting turned into news fodder. Yes, much like Michael Richards was guilty of an unhumorous, comedy act. Originally Posted by corplinx Does anyone really care what a washed up DJ says? Only the African-American ladies on the Rutger basketball team, Jesse Jackson, thousands of people in the NAACP, Allison Gollust, a spokeswoman for MSNBC, Karen Mateo, a spokeswoman for CBS Radio and last, but not least, the Reverend Al Sharpton. Oh yeah, and a handful of Americans who are getting tired of racist remarks being made and then expediently apologized for by idiots.
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headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,014	Maybe a slow news day, but he called a losing woman's basketball team from a good school -- Rutgers -- some "nappy-headed ho's." Now, what did they do to deserve that? They just played and lost a basketball game. They weren't politicians, or public figures, just some young women playing basketball -- and at a level far higher than someone like Imus could ever have aspired to. "Nappy-headed"? Come on, he had to have known/understood the racial content of it. So, on top of insulting some kids who don't have a national audience so that they can defend themselves, Imus introduced race AND Sex (by calling them hos). How would you feel if you were that team? How would you feel if you were those girl's mothers/fathers and family. He shouldn't be fired. He should, however, have to meet these young ladies and try to explain to them his humor, why it was funny, what is so funny about their loss, their play, their efforts, etc. He's a sad man.
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Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 20,329	Originally Posted by headscratcher4 He shouldn't be fired. I dunno. I wouldn't go so far as to advocate him being fired, but if I were his boss, I'd be thinking long and hard about whether or not I'd want to continue paying him.

9th April 2007, 11:41 AM	#7
corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,932	Are we this oversensitive as a culture? Mind you, I don't like Don Imus. This is the official non-issue of the day.
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9th April 2007, 11:44 AM	#8
corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,932	Originally Posted by headscratcher4 How would you feel if you were that team? How would you feel if you were those girl's mothers/fathers and family. I doubt they heard the original remark with the numbers he's pulling these days. HS, why the "cry me a river" defense? Noone is free from insult. Even if they just lost the big game.
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9th April 2007, 11:46 AM	#9
corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,932	http://nappyhairaffair.com/ http://www.nappystories.com/ My god, this man is Hitler.
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SezMe Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 9,929	Originally Posted by Mephisto Only the African-American ladies on the Rutger basketball team, Jesse Jackson, thousands of people in the NAACP, Allison Gollust, a spokeswoman for MSNBC, Karen Mateo, a spokeswoman for CBS Radio and last, but not least, the Reverend Al Sharpton. "...but not least ... Sharpton"? What does that mean? I don't know most of the other people on that list but Sharpton stands out to me as one of the most racist "media commentators" there is. The man is an embarrasssment.

9th April 2007, 11:53 AM	#11
corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,932	Sharpton had Imus on his radio show today to say he's sorry. Score a nice ratings day for the Rev. Al.
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9th April 2007, 11:53 AM	#12
JPK Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,012	Good afternoon. I admit that I have never found Imus funny, but it is supossed to be a comedy show, and therefore should not really be taken seriously. I'm pretty sure most radios have several options for dealing with things like this like changing the station or turning them off . JPK
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corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,932	More interesting to me, can anyone find who started this self perpetuating story? Who originally got their panties in a bunch and started this weird dogpile on Imus? Theres the real story. Nappy was harmless until Wednesday of last week. Nappy nappy nappy.
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Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by SezMe "...but not least ... Sharpton"? What does that mean? I don't know most of the other people on that list but Sharpton stands out to me as one of the most racist "media commentators" there is. The man is an embarrasssment. That's why I put him last, I didn't want to say least, but while his opinion isn't important to many people who think - he's still a spokesman for many African -Americans.
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9th April 2007, 12:06 PM	#15
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by corplinx Nappy was harmless until Wednesday of last week. Nappy nappy nappy. Whether you realize it or not, nappy was always derogitory remark when applied to African-Americans.
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corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,932	I just walked over and consulted the advice of two guys I work with. Apparently, nappy is a racial slur when used by a white person because white people don't have nappy hair.
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9th April 2007, 12:07 PM	#17
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by Lonewulf I'd also add that "ho" doesn't really refer to skin color, but instead to a particular style of sexual preference. It's Black slang for a prostitute - what did young women playing basketball do to deserve that title?
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Katana Illuminator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,894	Originally Posted by Mephisto Whether you realize it or not, nappy was always derogitory remark when applied to African-Americans. As opposed to the rest of us? Mephisto, you call me (or any part of moi) nappy, and you may meet the acquaintance of my blade.
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BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Did anyone else catch this? Quote: "Here's what I've learned: that you can't make fun of everybody, Okay, who can you make fun of? Obviously, politicians and entertainers. Who else? Oh, fat guys and bald guys, too. Anyone else?
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9th April 2007, 12:09 PM	#20
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by corplinx I just walked over and consulted the advice of two guys I work with. Apparently, nappy is a racial slur when used by a white person because white people don't have nappy hair. It's certainly a racial slur when used by a White DJ to describe African-American women.
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9th April 2007, 12:11 PM	#22
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by Katana As opposed to the rest of us? Mephisto, you call me (or any part of moi) nappy, and you may meet the acquaintance of my blade. Unless I'm referring to someone's penchant for siestas during the hottest part of the day, I would NEVER use the word nappy. And I'm smart enough NOT to make the acquaintance of your blade.
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The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 25,949	Originally Posted by corplinx Sharpton had Imus on his radio show today to say he's sorry. Score a nice ratings day for the Rev. Al. Which is ultimately what it is all about.
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The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 25,949	Originally Posted by Mephisto That's why I put him last, I didn't want to say least, but while his opinion isn't important to many people who think - he's still a spokesman for many African -Americans. None that I know. Bring his name up in conversation, and you'll get a lot of eye rolling.
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9th April 2007, 12:27 PM	#25
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,014	Originally Posted by corplinx HS, why the "cry me a river" defense? Noone is free from insult. Even if they just lost the big game. No, no one is free from being insulted. But just because you can, should you? Was it funny? It was sad, is all. Would you want Imus to call your daughter a ho on national radio? They didn't put themsleves into the public sphere, Imus did. Because we can act like 10 year olds, doesn't mean we should. That's all. As I said I don't think he should be fired. I hope he'll be more thoughtful, he doesn't have to, however. Fortunately, one great thing about this country is I don't have to listen to him...I can turn the radio to another station...
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9th April 2007, 12:28 PM	#26
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 20,329	Originally Posted by BPSCG Oh, fat guys and bald guys, too. HEY!

9th April 2007, 12:31 PM	#27
Mephisto Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a state of disbelief Posts: 6,065	Originally Posted by corplinx Its hard to imagine it being racist when I heard it at the school lunch table nearly every day to hear some kid describe another kid's gramma. I was one of two Caucasians in my eighth grade class. It was a word that I never took heat for using in the lunchtime "repartee" known as "checking". I remember "checking" or "playing the dozens," in school. It was usually between friends and anything was fair game. Stepping out of the friendly circle to play usually meant "fighting words." Quote: However, I prodded some black co-workers who went to some of the schools in my district. They replied "times have changed". Times have changed and I would like to think for the better. We should at least be cognizant of the words that might hurt others. Especially if we are on national radio.
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9th April 2007, 12:40 PM	#28
King of the Americas Guest Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: North Central Texas Posts: 3,151	I watch and listen to Imus occasionally. He is usually dry, thoughtful, boring, and now and again he can ask a pointed question or two toward a political guest. But those moments are few and far between. To me, he seems like an aging radio DJ striving to remain relivent... He isn't as 'shocking' as he used to be, thus his MSNBC TV show. He is less of a comedy guy, and more of a news guy. His show is usually a bunch of old white guys, talking about stuff that yung people find boring. When he was young, 'racist' slang stuff was hip and cool to use. Some people can still get away with it, without being tared and feathered. Imus just missed the cut...

9th April 2007, 01:15 PM	#29
casebro Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,344	All part of the current fad of having two 'personalities' in a spat. Trump/ Rosie. O'Rielly/Rosie. Imus/Sharpton. Did you catch O'Reilly and Geraldo last night? All good for the ratings of each 'personality'.
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9th April 2007, 01:25 PM	#30
steverino Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 3,687	Originally Posted by casebro All part of the current fad of having two 'personalities' in a spat. Trump/ Rosie. You mean the the WASP and the bull-dyke? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STEVIE WONDER LYRICS "I Wish" Looking back on when I Was a little nappy headed boy Then my only worry Was for Christmas what would be my toy Even though we sometimes Would not get a thing We were happy with the Joy the day would bring
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9th April 2007, 01:30 PM	#31
hgc Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,627	Originally Posted by steverino You mean the the WASP and the bull-dyke? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STEVIE WONDER LYRICS "I Wish" Looking back on when I Was a little nappy headed boy Then my only worry Was for Christmas what would be my toy Even though we sometimes Would not get a thing We were happy with the Joy the day would bring I love that song. Just running through the melody in my mind makes me smile.
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9th April 2007, 01:49 PM	#32
Tricky Briefly immortal Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Group W bench Posts: 30,660	Imus be an idiot . . . I strongly object to the title of this thread. It might look as if it were intended as a joke, but was obviously meant as a slur on the speech patterns of African-Americans. Punning the word "mus" for must and use of the infinitive "be" instead of "is" makes it quite obvious that Mephisto is willing to insult a whole ethnicity in order to make his little joke. Sho 'nuff.

9th April 2007, 01:59 PM	#33
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 25,949	I like how he calls politicians "fat bastards". And those are the ones he likes!
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9th April 2007, 02:50 PM	#34
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Originally Posted by headscratcher4 No, no one is free from being insulted. But just because you can, should you? Muslims are.
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9th April 2007, 04:11 PM	#35
aerosolben Evil Genius Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,240	Originally Posted by BPSCG Muslims are. Muslims are stupid. ...when should I expect the Men in Black to show up?
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9th April 2007, 05:09 PM	#36
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 16,229	Originally Posted by Upchurch I dunno. I wouldn't go so far as to advocate him being fired, but if I were his boss, I'd be thinking long and hard about whether or not I'd want to continue paying him. And knowing his ratings have probably skyrocketted the past few days?
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