Judy Woods: Coma?

Arkan_Wolfshade · 11th April 2007, 08:20 AM

Okay, we've all seen the claim tossed around that Judy Woods was in a coma. Usual number used is 6 years, but I've seen it range from 5-7 years. The only evidence I can find on this is from here: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/Show...jsp?tid=495285 and, frankly, that is not a credible enough source for me.

So, was she or wasn't she?

The Almond · 11th April 2007, 08:23 AM

At Clemson, she used to tell students she was in a coma for several years. But since I never had a class with her, I'm only reporting hearsay.

chipmunk stew · 11th April 2007, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade

Okay, we've all seen the claim tossed around that Judy Woods was in a coma. Usual number used is 6 years, but I've seen it range from 5-7 years. The only evidence I can find on this is from here: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/Show...jsp?tid=495285 and, frankly, that is not a credible enough source for me.

So, was she or wasn't she?

In terms of credibility, I rank this down there with the rumor that Benjamin Chertoff is Michael Chertoff's cousin. Perhaps lower.

In middle school, we had a teacher who was out for medical leave for most of a year, and the rumor spread that she had received a lobotomy. This was, of course, not true, but that didn't stop the rumor from persisting.

I think this is a fairly common type of rumor for kids to spread about their teachers when they don't like the teacher and see them as dotty or flighty.

Arkan_Wolfshade · 11th April 2007, 08:36 AM

I bring this up for a couple of reasons:
1) People have used the coma claim as a debunk (by using it to explain irrational thinking)
2) People have used the coma claim as an ad hom
3) If she were in a coma, depending on the cause, it could be used to substantiate #1
4) If she were not in a coma, but was in fact claiming she had been in one, it could be used to substantiate #1

beachnut · 11th April 2007, 08:53 AM

The story may be hearsay and is not needed to understand her strange theories on 9/11. Or is there a relationship between comas and crazy ideas on 9/11? http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=495285

Is the coma story real or made up? Are her crazy ideas independent coma, or due to her coma, or just made up to explain her crazy ideas?

Is anyone even close to thinking her ideas on 9/11 have merit? Her beam weapons? Yes there are beam weapons and they have shot down missiles. But the energy to vaporize/dustify steel can be calculated and she could explain why there is no such power source available today. Yet she leaves that large hole open for idiot truthers to believe and calculate how and who did it!

Her rhetoric seems to be the proof she is still in a coma!

JamesB · 11th April 2007, 08:56 AM

Her e-mail address is on her Janedoe website, e-mail her and ask.

On that note, Steven Jones is still refusing to answer my e-mail. Wuss.

chipmunk stew · 11th April 2007, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by beachnut

The story may be hearsay and is not needed to understand her strange theories on 9/11. Or is there a relationship between comas and crazy ideas on 9/11? http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=495285

Is the coma story real or made up? Are her crazy ideas independent coma, or due to her coma, or just made up to explain her crazy ideas?

I agree. If you feel like you need to fall back on the coma rumor to convince someone that her ideas have no basis in reality, it's time to stop trying to convince that person.

defaultdotxbe · 11th April 2007, 09:13 AM

the rumors seem to be coming form her students at clemson, perhaps there is someone there you can contact?

i really dont think it matters either way, anyone crazy enough to buy her star wars theories is probably doesnt care about her medical history

The Almond · 11th April 2007, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

the rumors seem to be coming form her students at clemson, perhaps there is someone there you can contact?

i really dont think it matters either way, anyone crazy enough to buy her star wars theories is probably doesnt care about her medical history

The University won't release her medical information, and since she's no longer employed, I doubt you'll find anyone who will care enough about it anyway.

Arkan_Wolfshade · 11th April 2007, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by The Almond

The University won't release her medical information, and since she's no longer employed, I doubt you'll find anyone who will care enough about it anyway.

Plus it supposedly occurred prior to her becoming a prof.

Spindrift · 11th April 2007, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade

I bring this up for a couple of reasons:
1) People have used the coma claim as a debunk (by using it to explain irrational thinking)
2) People have used the coma claim as an ad hom
3) If she were in a coma, depending on the cause, it could be used to substantiate #1
4) If she were not in a coma, but was in fact claiming she had been in one, it could be used to substantiate #1

Being in a coma explains irrational thinking?

HyJinX · 11th April 2007, 09:58 AM

She came out of it? When?

Arkan_Wolfshade · 11th April 2007, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Spindrift

Being in a coma explains irrational thinking?

If the coma was a result of, or resulted in, brain damage it would help explain it.

defaultdotxbe · 11th April 2007, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Spindrift

Being in a coma explains irrational thinking?

she could have dained her bramage

Mobyseven · 11th April 2007, 10:53 AM

We've all heard this rumor, and from my memory the only place I've actually seen it is on the "rate my teacher" website.

Quite frankly I don't see how it matters. While it might be used to explain WHY she reasons the way she does, in debate it is useless and could be considered an argument ad hominem.

It's a matter of interest, to be sure. But in debate we address the claims she put forward, not whether she was absent for part of the nineties / naughties.

T.A.M. · 11th April 2007, 12:35 PM

Yes, god knows there are enough well educated, supposedly smart professors that were not in a coma, that believe this silly 9/11 truth shaite.

TAM

A W Smith · 11th April 2007, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

Yes, god knows there are enough well educated, supposedly smart professors that were not in a coma, that believe this silly 9/11 truth shaite.

TAM

evidence?

11th April 2007, 08:20 AM	#1
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	Judy Woods: Coma? Okay, we've all seen the claim tossed around that Judy Woods was in a coma. Usual number used is 6 years, but I've seen it range from 5-7 years. The only evidence I can find on this is from here: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/Show...jsp?tid=495285 and, frankly, that is not a credible enough source for me. So, was she or wasn't she?
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11th April 2007, 08:23 AM	#2
The Almond Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,015	At Clemson, she used to tell students she was in a coma for several years. But since I never had a class with her, I'm only reporting hearsay.
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11th April 2007, 08:32 AM	#3
chipmunk stew The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE PA Posts: 7,465	Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade Okay, we've all seen the claim tossed around that Judy Woods was in a coma. Usual number used is 6 years, but I've seen it range from 5-7 years. The only evidence I can find on this is from here: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/Show...jsp?tid=495285 and, frankly, that is not a credible enough source for me. So, was she or wasn't she? In terms of credibility, I rank this down there with the rumor that Benjamin Chertoff is Michael Chertoff's cousin. Perhaps lower. In middle school, we had a teacher who was out for medical leave for most of a year, and the rumor spread that she had received a lobotomy. This was, of course, not true, but that didn't stop the rumor from persisting. I think this is a fairly common type of rumor for kids to spread about their teachers when they don't like the teacher and see them as dotty or flighty.
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11th April 2007, 08:36 AM	#4
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	I bring this up for a couple of reasons: 1) People have used the coma claim as a debunk (by using it to explain irrational thinking) 2) People have used the coma claim as an ad hom 3) If she were in a coma, depending on the cause, it could be used to substantiate #1 4) If she were not in a coma, but was in fact claiming she had been in one, it could be used to substantiate #1
	__________________ Amy: You should try homeopathic medicine, Bender. Try some zinc. Bender: I am forty percent zinc. Amy: Then take some echinacea, or St. John's Wort. Professor: Or a big fat placebo. It's all the same crap.

11th April 2007, 08:53 AM	#5
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,901	The story may be hearsay and is not needed to understand her strange theories on 9/11. Or is there a relationship between comas and crazy ideas on 9/11? http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=495285 Is the coma story real or made up? Are her crazy ideas independent coma, or due to her coma, or just made up to explain her crazy ideas? Is anyone even close to thinking her ideas on 9/11 have merit? Her beam weapons? Yes there are beam weapons and they have shot down missiles. But the energy to vaporize/dustify steel can be calculated and she could explain why there is no such power source available today. Yet she leaves that large hole open for idiot truthers to believe and calculate how and who did it! Her rhetoric seems to be the proof she is still in a coma!
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11th April 2007, 08:56 AM	#6
JamesB Master Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,136	Her e-mail address is on her Janedoe website, e-mail her and ask. On that note, Steven Jones is still refusing to answer my e-mail. Wuss.
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11th April 2007, 09:00 AM	#7
chipmunk stew The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE PA Posts: 7,465	Originally Posted by beachnut The story may be hearsay and is not needed to understand her strange theories on 9/11. Or is there a relationship between comas and crazy ideas on 9/11? http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=495285 Is the coma story real or made up? Are her crazy ideas independent coma, or due to her coma, or just made up to explain her crazy ideas? I agree. If you feel like you need to fall back on the coma rumor to convince someone that her ideas have no basis in reality, it's time to stop trying to convince that person.
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11th April 2007, 09:13 AM	#8
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	the rumors seem to be coming form her students at clemson, perhaps there is someone there you can contact? i really dont think it matters either way, anyone crazy enough to buy her star wars theories is probably doesnt care about her medical history
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11th April 2007, 09:31 AM	#9
The Almond Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,015	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe the rumors seem to be coming form her students at clemson, perhaps there is someone there you can contact? i really dont think it matters either way, anyone crazy enough to buy her star wars theories is probably doesnt care about her medical history The University won't release her medical information, and since she's no longer employed, I doubt you'll find anyone who will care enough about it anyway.
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11th April 2007, 09:33 AM	#10
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	Originally Posted by The Almond The University won't release her medical information, and since she's no longer employed, I doubt you'll find anyone who will care enough about it anyway. Plus it supposedly occurred prior to her becoming a prof.
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11th April 2007, 09:53 AM	#11
Spindrift Enturbulator Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here! Posts: 8,458	Originally Posted by Arkan_Wolfshade I bring this up for a couple of reasons: 1) People have used the coma claim as a debunk (by using it to explain irrational thinking) 2) People have used the coma claim as an ad hom 3) If she were in a coma, depending on the cause, it could be used to substantiate #1 4) If she were not in a coma, but was in fact claiming she had been in one, it could be used to substantiate #1 Being in a coma explains irrational thinking?
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11th April 2007, 09:58 AM	#12
HyJinX Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Beyond the Sun Posts: 1,666	She came out of it? When?
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11th April 2007, 09:59 AM	#13
Arkan_Wolfshade Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Making Mytheon come to life Posts: 7,158	Originally Posted by Spindrift Being in a coma explains irrational thinking? If the coma was a result of, or resulted in, brain damage it would help explain it.
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11th April 2007, 10:43 AM	#14
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	Originally Posted by Spindrift Being in a coma explains irrational thinking? she could have dained her bramage
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11th April 2007, 10:53 AM	#15
Mobyseven President of Covert-Ops Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Not the Rat. Posts: 5,672	We've all heard this rumor, and from my memory the only place I've actually seen it is on the "rate my teacher" website. Quite frankly I don't see how it matters. While it might be used to explain WHY she reasons the way she does, in debate it is useless and could be considered an argument ad hominem. It's a matter of interest, to be sure. But in debate we address the claims she put forward, not whether she was absent for part of the nineties / naughties.
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11th April 2007, 12:35 PM	#16
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Yes, god knows there are enough well educated, supposedly smart professors that were not in a coma, that believe this silly 9/11 truth shaite. TAM

11th April 2007, 12:46 PM	#17
A W Smith Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 7,031	Originally Posted by T.A.M. Yes, god knows there are enough well educated, supposedly smart professors that were not in a coma, that believe this silly 9/11 truth shaite. TAM evidence?
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